THE TEAM....

Jason Gregor
January 07 2014 10:30AM

Canada finally announced their 2014 roster for the Sochi Olympics, and without a doubt the biggest surprise is Claude Giroux not making the team.

There are eleven returning players on the 25-man roster, but in my eyes Rick Nash continues to be the most overrated player in the NHL. Nash has had one 70-point season, and since the 2010 Olympics he has scored 185 points in 228 games, 25th most amongst Canadian-born players. In that same time span Marty St.Louis has scored the most points, 271, while Giroux is third with 255.

Giroux is flat out more competitive game in, game out than Nash. Nash has only two goals in 16 NHL playoff games, but Hockey Canada seems to put more onus on the fact he has played well at the water-downed World Championships.

Nash did play okay at the last Olympics, but how much of that was because he was on Toews line, and Toews was the best player in the tournament.

Nash has 18 points in 27 games this year. No one can say he is playing well, or close to the level of Claude Giroux, but Hockey Canada choose him because he's played for them before. I guess Giroux should not play crappier in the NHL so his team could miss the playoffs and he can pad his stats at the World Championships.

Here is the roster, returning players have **.

Goalies:

  • Roberto Luongo**
  • Carey Price
  • Mike Smith

Defence:

  • Jay Bouwmeester
  • Drew Doughty**
  • Dan Hamuis
  • Duncan Keith**
  • Alex Pietrangelo
  • PK Subban
  • Marc-Edouard Vlasic
  • Shea Weber**

Forwards:

  • Jamie Benn
  • Patrice Bergeron**
  • Jeff Carter
  • Sidney Crosby**
  • Matt Duchene
  • Ryan Getzlaf**
  • Chris Kunitz
  • Patrick Marleau**
  • Rick Nash**
  • Corey Perry**
  • Patrick Sharp
  • Steven Stamkos
  • John Tavares
  • Jonathan Toews**

I still believe Canada is the favourite, because of the blueline and their top-six forwards; Crosby, Tavares, Stamkos, Getzlaf, Perry and Toews.

It will be an awesome tournament and I can't wait to watch, but picking Nash over Giroux makes little sense. Essentially they are basing it on seven good games that happened four years ago. Horrible decision.

Which decision surpised you?

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#101 MAC962
January 07 2014, 11:25AM
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Some questions for sure, But if we win it was correct, if we lose then we will further question these picks for 4 more years.

Go Canada ! once you have that jersey on , no matter if i agree or not you are my boys !.

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#102 Vernon Huynh
January 07 2014, 11:26AM
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pelhem grenville wrote:

... anyone who says that 87 is a great player AND the face of Team Canada but is not the veteran presence needs to rethink his statement...someone said Marleau, kidding right? look further up and down this rooster and find the missing vet you speak about...•Jay Bouwmeester?

if it's not Sid you tell us all here Vern...who do you see who's better than Sid...

best player = best leader right?

wrong....as an oiler fan i'd think you would know this more then anyone...who was the last best player while also team captain for us? Doug Weight probably in what 2004? 03? since then...jason smith who was not our best player, then moreau and now ference same deal.

why did hall not get the captaincy of the oil this year? is hall not a great player or not the face of the oil? i wouldn't be surprised if 87 is not named captain of canada and instead it goes to someone like....keith or weber or whatever...you get my point.

(p.s. thanks for agreeing with me on the marleau thing, he's one of the FEW question marks that many ppl have already mentioned)

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#103 tileguy
January 07 2014, 11:32AM
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How interesting that Bellov made the Russian team. I wonder if the oil will harness his talent properly or this guy gone in June?

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#104 A-Mc
January 07 2014, 11:51AM
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ToppsSmith wrote:

Why are you obsessing with points. We have a ton of scoring on the team, guys like Nash will play a physical role that others can't. He plays a complete game, which will at times not score, but will tighten up a complete D-Game. Why does everyone want a team of cherry pickers. Teams built that way in the past has failed. I think Nash was a smart pick.

The guy i quoted used points, so i responded in his language.

I'm far from obsessing. Please go back and read what was said in the discussion from the begining.

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#105 Vernon Huynh
January 07 2014, 12:06PM
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pelhem grenville wrote:

hey Vern... ...with this team I don't believe Canada will even medal at Sochi...

being a canadian hockey fanatic....my heart will always cheer for canada (and the oilers) i definitely think on paper we still have the strongest team. It's just fun to debate decisions that the higher ups make.

everyteam had question marks really (i.e. no bobby ryan, belov for russia, etc...) i'm just looking forward to 3-4am hockey games in february

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#106 Time Travelling Sean
January 07 2014, 12:08PM
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What if Crosby gets injured? Or Crosby hits an awful dry streak? Kunitz will be dead weight if that happens.

I'd rather have someone not ride Crosby's coat tails to success but could rather make Crosby better or if Crosby falters pick up the weight himself and help move the team/line.

Nash is getting there on legacy, I'd rather have Giroux on big ice than Nash on big ice.

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#107 Zarny
January 07 2014, 12:51PM
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A-Mc wrote:

So what?

St. Louis had 60, Eric Stall 53 and Taylor hall 50.

Mike Ribeiro had more points than Nash last year, with 49

Giroux had 48, Ladd had 46 and Kadri had 44, Moulson had 44 and Parenteau had 43pts.

Who gives a flying F#ck that Nash had 42 points last season.

With the super stars that comprise Team Canada, Nash is simply "OK". There are definitely better options.

It's simple dumba**...I agree there are better selections than Nash.

Calling Nash "OK" though is flat out idiotic; even with the superstars that comprise Team Canada.

Because the reality is that even though I don't think Nash should have been selected he's on the short list of reserves well ahead of Ladd, Kadri, Moulson, Ribeiro and Parenteau.

It is beyond laughable how dolts like you call a F who probably should 15-16th right now not 12-13th "OK".

LAUGHABLE. Like literally ROFLMAO.

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#108 Oilerz4life
January 07 2014, 01:02PM
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pelhem grenville wrote:

...you're the second person to have changed his or her name on here after I have called them on demeaning & belittling comments...yes I know about having fun at the expense of our beloved team but I'm allowed to NOT like it! it's why I read some of the silliness... Wanye's the best at silly...but you sir are what you are...irrelevant

Still fail to see how comparing current Oilers hockey to Interpretive Ice Dancing at the Olympics is so offensive. Funny that you should mention demeaning and belittling comments. Perhaps you should change your name to Mister Hypocrisy, or the Ontario Blog Boss (-_-)

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#109 They're $hittie
January 07 2014, 01:07PM
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Me wrote:

I read it just fine....you said inferior players...according to you Kunitz is inferior to who at left wing? Again by your logic what constitutes an inferior player when building a team?

IDIOT.

take a poll,

Kunitz is inferior to Couture, St. Louis, Neal, Hall, E Staal,

Vlasic and Hamhuis are inferior, to Boyle, Seabrook,

Here is the definition of inferior http://www.thefreedictionary.com/inferior

Being worse than another player does not imply you dont have skill it means you are not as good as them.

MORON.

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#110 ToppsSmith
January 07 2014, 01:25PM
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Me wrote:

You still havent said how he's inferior... so explain...you also said they went with "handedness" over "skill", so how are you arguing against Kunitz skill? IDIOT.

I think Kunitz was more a pick to stick with Crosby who he has played with for a good part of the year. Instant chemistry for a national team is hard to get. I think a few of these guys made the team on that alone. Someone a Superstar can bounce off of naturally. Other nations will lack this at this level. Also he can play all 4 lines. Kunitz is a smarter pick if you look deep at it.

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#111 Zarny
January 07 2014, 01:40PM
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Me wrote:

The only place where this is an issue is in sOiler country, Hall doesn't even make the TSN poll as a suprise not being on the team. He's not the first or second highest scoring LW from Canada either, he's 3rd. I wonder if they are whining in Winnipeg today (and showing how a "fan" struggles to be objective) that Bryan Little never came up since he was as of last night the 4th highest point totalled RW, behind Eberle who also never came up.

Hall has the highest pt/gm for all Canadian LW over the last year.

And no Hall doesn't make the TSN poll because he turned 22 less than 2 months ago and has only played 209 NHL games.

Compared to say Duchene who is 10 months older and has played close to 100 more NHL games.

If the Olympics were next year Hall would be a lock.

Deal with it.

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#112 Serious Gord
January 07 2014, 01:51PM
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Looking through the list of forwards - the G and D I have zero problem with - Fleury has the same rep with hockey cda as dubnyk has with oiler fans. 4left 4right makes perfect sense - three things dominate:

Speed

Size

Seniority

Speed - every player is in the top percentile for speed

Size - every player is 6ft or over except crosby and Duchene - both at 5'11"

Seniority - eleven alumni

Apply all those criteria and the likes of st louis (size) and Giroux (5'11" 172lbs and declined to play for HC in the past) are knocked out.

This is a team that will not be beaten to a puck nor will it be knocked off the puck.

The one thing that may be missing - believe it or not - or at least was further down the list is playmaking. And playmaking begets scoring chances and goals. This may be a team that struggles to score against a disciplined defensive team - i'm looking at you sweden.

The three that I quibble with are:

Marleau - Got exposed/disappeared in the playoffs in years past. Perhaps in a less physically brutal olympic game he will play at a high level

Carter - Defensively how good is he? aren't there better options (see below)

Nash - Big ? - is he back to past levels or is he damaged like LeCavalier? going to be hard to tell him to go on the DL if he is subpar.

In their place i would have like to have seen:

Seguin - excellent two way player and playmaker can SKATE

Hall - lots of things in his favour - two Mem cup MVPs, natural LW to name two

Skinner - natural LW - great skater, even better shot- beats the very best goalies, Fearless

All three are part of the young guard, play on teams that are out of the playoffs, and are not part of the HC establishment.

Should this team fail, the place to start in the questioning will be with leaving these guys off. TOO conservative and approach will be the refrain.

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#113 Me
January 07 2014, 01:55PM
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ToppsSmith wrote:

Ya I said it before and I'll say it again. I would loved to see Hall and Eberle play on the big ice and play with a pure playmaker like Thorton. I think Hall didn't come up on TSN because that network hates the west coast teams. (Like most networks) they put them on TV, but they always favor Toronto or Montreal. It's grossly obvious too.

They have a deal to broadcast Maple Laugh games even after the sportsnet takeover, so theres that. Also the population base has something to do with it. Also , go to a Laughs game or a Habs game in a visiting Canadian rink and that should tell you something. Hall didn't come up because skating fast in straight lines and only playing offense doesn't get you in the mix.

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#114 Dog Train
January 07 2014, 03:08PM
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I understand the lefty-right balance but I would have had Seabrook there before Hamhuis. Seabrook played poorly at the last Olympics but he is a better player now and likely wouldn't be as flustered this time around. I agree that Giroux should have made the team, he is the biggest surprise omission to me. I would have had him on the team before Nash or Carter.

Team Canada will always have a gold-medal calibre roster on paper. The key will be getting the goaltending because most other countries have better goaltending on paper. After seeing the final rosters, I think Sweden might have the most complete roster.

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#115 Cold Hard Truth
January 07 2014, 03:45PM
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New Rule: Nobody is allowed to use the semicolon anymore. Use a period instead. 90% of the posters on this board use it incorrectly.

Jonathan Willis uses them correctly, albeit too liberally.

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#116 Slats
January 07 2014, 03:52PM
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Congrats to Hemmer for making Team Czech

and Petr Nedved!!!!! Are you kidding me at 42 years young - wait until braintrust signs him to a 3 year deal for the Oil . . . .

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#117 S cottV
January 07 2014, 11:32AM
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@Eric

Yeah - hard to ignore that Nash is much bigger with more reach, is skilled and doesnt give up anything in speed, as compared to Giroux.

As long as you can move, that stuff comes in handy on the big rink.

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#118 Newj
January 07 2014, 11:35AM
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No Joe Thornton?

Until Tavares 5pt night yesterday, he was tied for 3rd in NHL scoring & leading the league in helpers.

I get the issue that he is behind Syd, Getzlaf & Bergeron at centre, but he could not make a valuable winger?

Many say he is too slow? He wasn't invited to the summer camp, but somehow I've got to believe he's capable of helping Team Cda.

What am I missing..he wasnt on many radars of the so called pundits.

Only one I didnt agree with was Nash on the team..should have been Jumbo Joe or MSL.

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#119 ToppsSmith
January 07 2014, 11:46AM
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A-Mc wrote:

So what?

St. Louis had 60, Eric Stall 53 and Taylor hall 50.

Mike Ribeiro had more points than Nash last year, with 49

Giroux had 48, Ladd had 46 and Kadri had 44, Moulson had 44 and Parenteau had 43pts.

Who gives a flying F#ck that Nash had 42 points last season.

With the super stars that comprise Team Canada, Nash is simply "OK". There are definitely better options.

Why are you obsessing with points. We have a ton of scoring on the team, guys like Nash will play a physical role that others can't. He plays a complete game, which will at times not score, but will tighten up a complete D-Game. Why does everyone want a team of cherry pickers. Teams built that way in the past has failed. I think Nash was a smart pick.

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#120 pelhem grenville
January 07 2014, 11:50AM
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hey Vern... ...with this team I don't believe Canada will even medal at Sochi...

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#121 Tikkanese
January 07 2014, 11:59AM
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Zamboni Driver wrote:

I think that most of this post was written in a language only Esa Tikkanen would understand.

Particularly #8 and #9.

CLIFF RONNING??!!

Also, pros already play in hoops, and the Americans have had to work their asses off lately to win. In fact they won a bronze in 2004.

Yea 5'8" Cliff Ronning who probably would have never got an NHL shot if it wasn't for the Canadian program. 869 points in 1137 career NHL games. That's nothing to "??!!" about.

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#122 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
January 07 2014, 12:23PM
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A-Mc wrote:

It might spark some epic LULZ if someone were to 'leak' edmontons draft rankings over the last 8 years.

I'm rather curious about the disparity between teams' rankings, and their reasoning behind it.

If you look closely at the Oil Change episode that covers the draft there are several frames of video where they show last years list but they blur out the names......but you can actually figure out the names based on the blurred letters, combined with the names we know are on the list, and the LENGTH of the names.

If I remember correctly they had Monahan at 4 and Nichushkyn right after Nurse. But my memory is bad....someone should go back and view it again.

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#123 Oilerz4life
January 07 2014, 12:25PM
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pelhem grenville wrote:

...no not the police but if you don't have anything else but donkey things to say (ice dancing) then drop the Oilez4life moniker and go with mister irrelevant instead...

Its an Oilers site. In case you haven't noticed, alot of lifelong fans make fun of the current plight of the Oilers around here. Interpretive Ice Dancing is an Olympic sport that I think the Oilers would represent well this year. Why don't you write up a set of site rules for us all to follow. Or since it aggravates you so much to see an Oilers comment you don't like on Oilersnation.com and being that you're in Ontario, you could stick to policing Leafs blog sites.

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#124 Me
January 07 2014, 12:32PM
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St. Louis didn't make it because Yzerman was so embarassed and ticked off that the Bolts lost to the sOilers the other night. Ohhhhhh the shame.

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#125 S cottV
January 07 2014, 12:38PM
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Big ice lends itself more to guys with big reach who can move. So Nash - 6 ft 4 / 220 who can skate with anyone, makes more sense than meets the eye, offensivly and defensively.

You have to be careful applying full defensive pressure anywhere on the ice, and particularly out to the boards. Big reach guys who can skate, can apply full pressure when it makes sense, but dont have to fully commit to still be effective at limiting time / space, angling with a big body and reach.

Also helps big time on the PK side of things.

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#126 Zarny
January 07 2014, 12:38PM
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Mo Playoffs Mo Problems wrote:

Imagine Canada's "B-Team". They could probably still contend for a medal:

Hall - Thornton - Couture

Neal - Giroux - Eberle

St. Louis - E. Staal - J. Staal

Lucic - Seguin - Ladd

Reserves: Marchand - M. Richards - Doan - J. Williams

Boyle - Seabrook

Giordano - Phaneuf

Letang - M. Staal

Reserves: Girardi - Beauchemin

Bernier

Harding

Ward

Canada's B team is no doubt impressive, but you have 3 players who shoot left (Couture, Staal and Ladd) playing RW. That won't work.

Luckily St. Louis is actually a RW so you can move him to the 1st line.

Otherwise, you probably have to move Seguin to RW, Staal to C, and cut Ladd for Doan, Williams, Little or most likely Iginla.

Giordano and Phaneuf are both left D that shoot left.. So is M. Staal although Letang is a righty. Giordano or M. Staal likely move to the reserves for Girardi who shoots right.

G is where Canada's B team would be weakest.

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#127 pkam
January 07 2014, 12:42PM
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S cottV wrote:

I wonder where the Oilers had Jamie Benn in the 2007 draft?

They took a lot of guys ahead of him that never turned into anything close to this guy.

He would sure look good at centre for the Oilers.

29 other teams passed on him for 4 rounds. Oilers didn't even have a 2nd and 3rd round picks that year. So in a sense, we were better than the other 29 teams since they all had more picks than us yet they passed on him.

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#128 ToppsSmith
January 07 2014, 12:54PM
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Zarny wrote:

It's simple dumba**...I agree there are better selections than Nash.

Calling Nash "OK" though is flat out idiotic; even with the superstars that comprise Team Canada.

Because the reality is that even though I don't think Nash should have been selected he's on the short list of reserves well ahead of Ladd, Kadri, Moulson, Ribeiro and Parenteau.

It is beyond laughable how dolts like you call a F who probably should 15-16th right now not 12-13th "OK".

LAUGHABLE. Like literally ROFLMAO.

Well said.

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#129 They're $hittie
January 07 2014, 12:54PM
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FSD wrote:

Look at all these Oiler fans talking about who should and should not be on the team.

Your credibility is lacking most of you thought the Oilers were a playoff team this year.

Ha Ha Ha

Does FSD stand for Flames Suck D#$@?

How is wonder kid Sven Bartschi working out for you. Thought you all said he was going to get 55 points this year.

LOL

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#130 Vernon Huynh
January 07 2014, 01:01PM
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pelhem grenville wrote:

Vern...my concerns are two...goaltending and the big ice surface but I like that there's a righty and lefty on each D pairing...I like that Kunitz made it...I like that we have no smurfs (yes your MSL is big hearted)...but I worry about those things I mentioned...

i agree...but like every olympics or WC or anything international....Canada has the best skaters in the world bar none from 1-22, of course there are the datsyuks of the world, but overall Canada > REST of the World. BUT it's always the goalies that are in the spotlight right or wrong, they're the last line of defence and whenever canada loses, goaltending is almost always the first thing pointed out.

Big Surface is another problem. Canadians NEVER play on such a huge surface from their minor hockey to CHL they are always trained in NA ice, whereas all europeans USUALLY will have some experience on the surface. Having played minor hockey in edmonton i have never even seen an international rink (outside the TV) so yea that's definitely a concern.

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#131 Me
January 07 2014, 01:04PM
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They're $hittie wrote:

Does FSD stand for Flames Suck D#$@?

How is wonder kid Sven Bartschi working out for you. Thought you all said he was going to get 55 points this year.

LOL

Nice comeback. Really. IDIOT.

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#132 outdoorzguy
January 07 2014, 01:04PM
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Rob... wrote:

FTFY: "Hey Gregor, I heard Lowe is going to be on your show today. This is your chance to grill his ass and let him know the fanbase despise his actions since the summer of 2006."

I doubt it. He'll talk about the Olympic team. But it would be interesting for Gregor to ask Lowe what qualifications he has for being on that selection committee. That answer could be real interesting. But Gregor will take the easy road. He won't bother with any Oiler issues because that is what the fans want to know.

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#133 bestmyfeeling
January 07 2014, 01:15PM
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Eberle4MVP wrote:

Clearly the best pic for Captain is Jonathan Toews... its not even close

i would like to hear your explanation how it's "not even close"

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#134 He Who Knows
January 07 2014, 01:19PM
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outdoorzguy wrote:

I doubt it. He'll talk about the Olympic team. But it would be interesting for Gregor to ask Lowe what qualifications he has for being on that selection committee. That answer could be real interesting. But Gregor will take the easy road. He won't bother with any Oiler issues because that is what the fans want to know.

I believe in Gregor. I'm sure Lowe probably put 6 rings on his resume and team Canada brought him in. Team Canada also gives a lot of favors to people who are completely under qualified. A lot of people know Giroux and Crosby hate each other and it's more than just the on ice stuff. Guys like Jeff Carter and Patty Marleau are not better than Giroux. He is a beast with an edge and they leave him off the team? The whole system and process wreaks of politics. This is not the best team they could put on the ice.

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#135 Zarny
January 07 2014, 01:37PM
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A-Mc wrote:

Question: if the NHL doesnt go to Korea in 2018, but instead does the world cup thing, Is the world cup every year? What is the frequency of the tournament?

I think the 4 year cyclic nature of the Olympics plays a big part in boosting the importance of the hockey tournament. Having a tournament every year might result in a lesser product. Olympic hockey is brutal awesome.. Emotionally it kicks the piss out of us fans. If it were to happen every year, i'm not sure i could say the same thing..

The NHL brass certainly prefer a World Cup; I think the plan they have is every 4 years like the Olympics. Maybe every 2 but certainly not every year.

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#136 The Real Scuba Steve
January 07 2014, 01:40PM
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Oilerz4life wrote:

Sorry, I forgot that this is OILERSNATION.COM. What are you the blog police?

No kidding, quit your crying and go to NHL.com.

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#137 Me
January 07 2014, 02:34PM
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Zarny wrote:

Yep, my Delorean is red and it is super cool.

Stamkos and Tavares aren't the most well-rounded players either. Their offense though makes up for it as will Hall's.

Hall has 88 pts in his last 82 games as a 21 y/o. 5-10 players a year put up more than a pt/gm over a whole season.

Kunitz is a questionable pick because the debate is top line with Crosby or not good enough for the Olympics.

Red is not cool at all.

you are speaking in the future about Hall again, so that is meaningless right now. I'm not arguing that he'll most likely be way more in the mix in the future if he actually improves in other aspects besides offense.

Again...points....Kunitz top LW for points...Hall third..and he plays on a good team where you are accountable and dont get to take a lot of chances and not come back full speed...Hall.

Points...is only a part of the equation.

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#138 Eberle4MVP
January 07 2014, 03:12PM
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bestmyfeeling wrote:

i would like to hear your explanation how it's "not even close"

Its not even close because Jonathan Toews is one of the most respected men in hockey. Dont let his age fool you, his demeanor, his hockey IQ, his "Messier-like" attitude to put the game on his shoulders, and he is a born winner. Not Whinner, which is what a lot of people think of Crosby. Yes, he got us the golden goal 4 years ago, and yes, he is one of the best athletes in the world, but skill isnt the only determining factor in naming a Captain. Respect is. And i believe that Toews has the respect of just about everybody in the league. And he deserves the C come Olympic time.

Id like to hear an arguement on who is a better candidate? Cause, personally, I dont see a Scott Neidermayer on this team...

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#139 RexHolez
January 07 2014, 04:35PM
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Crosby doesn't get along with Giroux. Sid's team. Why else would Kunitz make it? Giroux is even better than him!

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#140 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
January 07 2014, 05:16PM
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Cold Hard Truth wrote:

New Rule: Nobody is allowed to use the semicolon anymore. Use a period instead. 90% of the posters on this board use it incorrectly.

Jonathan Willis uses them correctly, albeit too liberally.

Really;

I hate it even worse when these guys don't properly site their references in the bibliography!

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#141 madjam
January 07 2014, 05:36PM
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They are playing on the big ice surface but realize they have to offensively crash the net with size to score , as most squads will clog up the middle of ice . Joe Thornton is one I would have put on for his adapt handling of puck around net area and setting up others . I would also have added Lucic for crashing the net and opposing defenceman , and physicality purpose . Your not going to get many goals from the periphery or outside in Olympic Tourney .

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#142 pkam
January 07 2014, 10:46AM
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Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty) wrote:

Also interesting to note...only three players that play from Canadian teams. No Oilers, Flames, Leafs, or Senators.

Edit: OOPS! Left out the Jets! No Jets either.

There is a Jets in the roster?

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#143 hankthetank
January 07 2014, 11:32AM
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Martin St.Louis > Rick Nash

WTF?

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#144 pelhem grenville
January 07 2014, 11:34AM
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...still haven't answered the question Vern

who's your 'leader' on this team

EDIT ... whoever did the last edit on my comment ...wtf

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#145 oilerjed
January 07 2014, 11:35AM
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geoilersgist wrote:

I am shocked that Nash made the team also. I don't think Stamkos will be ready in time either. The guy had his leg broken and just began skating on his own yesterday. Little surprised they left Seabrook off the team too.

I wouldnt be surprised if he is ready. I had this same injury last spring. Went undiagnosed for a month since I could walk okay on it I thought it was just bruised. After finally getting xrayed the Doc mentioned that using it actually helps heal it faster. Was back at Taekwondo after 4-5 weeks, kicking as hard as I wanted. Long story short Stamkos should be able to light it uo in Sochi

Edit: should have mentioned that it is a none weight bearing bone which is why I could walk on it ok.

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#146 Vernon Huynh
January 07 2014, 11:39AM
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pelhem grenville wrote:

...still haven't answered the question Vern

who's your 'leader' on this team

EDIT ... whoever did the last edit on my comment ...wtf

based on the selection of the team i would say it is indeed 87, however that's getting off topic of my original point that they should have taken MSL to be the veteran leader.

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#147 Zamboni Driver
January 07 2014, 11:48AM
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@Tikkanese

I think that most of this post was written in a language only Esa Tikkanen would understand.

Particularly #8 and #9.

CLIFF RONNING??!!

Also, pros already play in hoops, and the Americans have had to work their asses off lately to win. In fact they won a bronze in 2004.

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#148 LoweBlow
January 07 2014, 11:53AM
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I know y'all dislike Nash and consider Giroux a 'better hockey player'. I believe this is true in a top 6 role. Nash however played on a checking line with Toews & Richards in the 2010 games. That line was magnificent at shutting down Dats-Ovi-Malkin.

Sadly, Giroux's passion will be Ieft out. I still remember him laying out Crosby 30sec into Game 5 before the Flyers knocked out The Pens 2012. Perhaps the rapport between Crosby & Giroux played a roll!

I believe Babcock will put Toews-Sharp-Nash together for a checking line. No one can score on these guys!

My lines.

Kunitz-Crosby-Stamkos Benn-Getzlaf-Perry Sharp-Toews-Nash Duchesne-Tavares-Carter Bergeron (Marleau-extra)

My alternatives: Mike Richards>Marleau Seabrook>Hamhuis (chemistry is a premium in this tourney, he & Keith) Anyone>Bouwmeester

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#149 A-Mc
January 07 2014, 11:56AM
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S cottV wrote:

I wonder where the Oilers had Jamie Benn in the 2007 draft?

They took a lot of guys ahead of him that never turned into anything close to this guy.

He would sure look good at centre for the Oilers.

It might spark some epic LULZ if someone were to 'leak' edmontons draft rankings over the last 8 years.

I'm rather curious about the disparity between teams' rankings, and their reasoning behind it.

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#150 Will
January 07 2014, 12:04PM
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How in the world Hockey Canada took Nash, Duchene, Carter, and Kunitz over guys like Giroux, Thorton, and Eric Stall. Is simply baffling. Even if you want to make the argument that Kunitz is there to play LW and that's good because all we have is a bunch of centres. How you take Duchene over Eric Stall is just stunning.

I like that they took Boumester over Seabrook as Hitchcock explains the international ice as much more of a lateral game than the vertical one played in the NHL.

Our defence and goal tending should give us a chance for gold as long as the coaches aren't afraid to pull the goalie at the first sign of trouble during the round robin and give the job to whichever 3 is the hottest.

I'm really excited to watch Stamkos and Crosby play on a line together, and to watch the classic Canadian style of hockey whatever line they put together with Toews.

If I was doing line combos it would be: Kunitz Crosby Stamkos Tavaras Getzlaf Perry Benn Toews Nash Sharp Bergeron Carter

Defence I really don't think it matters.

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