THE TEAM....

Jason Gregor
January 07 2014 10:30AM

Canada finally announced their 2014 roster for the Sochi Olympics, and without a doubt the biggest surprise is Claude Giroux not making the team.

There are eleven returning players on the 25-man roster, but in my eyes Rick Nash continues to be the most overrated player in the NHL. Nash has had one 70-point season, and since the 2010 Olympics he has scored 185 points in 228 games, 25th most amongst Canadian-born players. In that same time span Marty St.Louis has scored the most points, 271, while Giroux is third with 255.

Giroux is flat out more competitive game in, game out than Nash. Nash has only two goals in 16 NHL playoff games, but Hockey Canada seems to put more onus on the fact he has played well at the water-downed World Championships.

Nash did play okay at the last Olympics, but how much of that was because he was on Toews line, and Toews was the best player in the tournament.

Nash has 18 points in 27 games this year. No one can say he is playing well, or close to the level of Claude Giroux, but Hockey Canada choose him because he's played for them before. I guess Giroux should not play crappier in the NHL so his team could miss the playoffs and he can pad his stats at the World Championships.

Here is the roster, returning players have **.

Goalies:

  • Roberto Luongo**
  • Carey Price
  • Mike Smith

Defence:

  • Jay Bouwmeester
  • Drew Doughty**
  • Dan Hamuis
  • Duncan Keith**
  • Alex Pietrangelo
  • PK Subban
  • Marc-Edouard Vlasic
  • Shea Weber**

Forwards:

  • Jamie Benn
  • Patrice Bergeron**
  • Jeff Carter
  • Sidney Crosby**
  • Matt Duchene
  • Ryan Getzlaf**
  • Chris Kunitz
  • Patrick Marleau**
  • Rick Nash**
  • Corey Perry**
  • Patrick Sharp
  • Steven Stamkos
  • John Tavares
  • Jonathan Toews**

I still believe Canada is the favourite, because of the blueline and their top-six forwards; Crosby, Tavares, Stamkos, Getzlaf, Perry and Toews.

It will be an awesome tournament and I can't wait to watch, but picking Nash over Giroux makes little sense. Essentially they are basing it on seven good games that happened four years ago. Horrible decision.

Which decision surpised you?

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#151 andrewmk20
January 07 2014, 12:08PM
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@Eric

Giroux has a much better compete level at both ends of the ice. Nash has basically built his reputation on about 3 really unbelievable highlight reel goals. He's a decent top 6 forward but you can't say that he's better defensively or offensively. Also Giroux can play wing or center, Nash can't.

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#152 john
January 07 2014, 12:09PM
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Team Canada will not win any medal at Sochi, so stop stressing over who made or didn't make the team. Oilers players can rest and relax, start fresh the second half and knock off teams trying to make playoffs.

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#153 pelhem grenville
January 07 2014, 12:16PM
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Vern...my concerns are two...goaltending and the big ice surface but I like that there's a righty and lefty on each D pairing...I like that Kunitz made it...I like that we have no smurfs (yes your MSL is big hearted)...but I worry about those things I mentioned...

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#154 john
January 07 2014, 12:23PM
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Jordan Nugent-Hallkins wrote:

So team Canada won't medal but the Oil will turn it around in the second half?

Pass that pipe, please.

I m saying Oilers will play spoilers, they are not going to make playoffs this year or next year with Eakins. I don't smoke, I see Oilers getting smoked each game is enough for everyone.

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#155 Jeffff
January 07 2014, 12:28PM
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Every player cannot be the same. You need to build a team, they picked team Canada with that in mind. Each player has a role to play with different strength's. Hall did not make this team because the didn't need another player with excellent speed. They needed something different.

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#156 Eberle4MVP
January 07 2014, 12:36PM
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@Mo Playoffs Mo Problems

Ward shouldnt even be considered on a "C" Team. Terrible right now. That would be like saying Dubnyk should start in net.

There is no way Marchand makes any of my teams on a big ice surface. Too many other better and well-rounded players. You dont need an agitator in the Olympics.

Only difference on the B squad as opposed to the A squad is that the B squad would let in a pile more goals. There arent a lot of players on that list that are defensively sound.

If Harding was healthy, he should have been the third string goaltender instead of Smith. What a steller year he is having!

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#157 Shaner
January 07 2014, 12:43PM
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Jeff carter.........seriously Jeff F'n Carter. Am I missing something? Not good defensively and mediocre year offensively

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#158 S cottV
January 07 2014, 12:51PM
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@pkam

I guess he played in the BCJHL, in his draft year, so Vancouver comes out looking the dumbest. He put up a lot of points that year in Victoria, so - the Oilers should have been aware.

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#159 Johnnydapunk
January 07 2014, 12:54PM
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Tikkanese wrote:

World Cup is superior to the Olympics.

1. Every team gets an actual training camp. This eliminates the debates over who should have been named to the team. It also creates chemistry for the teams by not relying on one or two practices for that chemistry.

2. No interupted NHL schedule

3. No condensed NHL schedule

4. No 5 A.M. game times due to time zone issues

5. Gives us hockey in the summer

6. The players will like it better as they will get paid for it as opposed to the Olympics

7. If Olympics are back to the amateurs, it gives the possibility of another "Miracle On Ice" to happen again

8. An amateur Olympic program in the past gave us great players such as Cliff Ronning, that would have never made it otherwise. It also strengthens other tournaments such as the Spengler Cup

9. There would be more parity in the Olympics. Even the USA domination of basketball is another example for things to change

I'm prepared for a trashing here...

I don't know if I would call the World Cup superior, it's different and is for a different market.

I'm not going to question all of your points as there is only a few that I kindof disagree with.

4. Regarding time zones, that 5 am start thing, it only applies to North America as 5 am as in Europe it is a normal evening time. I don't see that being an issue if the "World Cup" is actually held worldwide.

5. I could be wrong, but the NHL has an 82 game schedule which is one of the longest hockey schedules worldwide, and I don't know how much the players would want to play or prepare for a summer tournament. I think the players breaking down would be an issue.

6. I. Not sure where payment would come in unless there was some type of prize money involved, there is also the issue of insurance as I don't think too many team owners would be or even are happy with releasing their 5 mil a year player for a summer tournament.

7/9 I don't think there is any fear of a "Miracle on Ice" moment not happening as there is quite a bit of parity among Olympic teams, it just takes time, and you are seeing it with teams like Switzerland for example, who beat Canada in 2010 in the round robin part. I think the IIHF is doing a tremendous job of raising the level of international hockey with their World Championship structure. No one really expected the Finns to win the World Juniors this year, so gold is not guaranteed for anyone.

8. I don't think there is any country that has a full time "National team" anymore, I can only guess that it is a money issue as a National Team program can't be cheap. Something similar to football(soccer) scenario with national team breaks can't really work either as the season is pretty packed as it is.

The idea of a "World Cup" of hockey in the format that was used in 2004 and before, seems only popular in North America as a lot of Europeans take the Olympics and IIHF World Championships as their "World Cup" they both are massively important and popular to watch and players take it very seriously (well Europeans )

Ideally it would be good for the IIHF to move the world championships to a later time so it would get more North American interest, but I guess that affects the European leagues.

Apologies for the novel, I get on a topic and latch on to it :-P

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#160 S cottV
January 07 2014, 12:59PM
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ToppsSmith wrote:

He is one of the better defensive choices. He has wheels and can see the plays develop. He is an extremely smart player. However I didn't expect to see him.

He also has a lot of international experience and plays well on big ice.

It is a different game and some guys more suited than others, to make the adjustments required.

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#161 Me
January 07 2014, 01:18PM
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They're $hittie wrote:

take a poll,

Kunitz is inferior to Couture, St. Louis, Neal, Hall, E Staal,

Vlasic and Hamhuis are inferior, to Boyle, Seabrook,

Here is the definition of inferior http://www.thefreedictionary.com/inferior

Being worse than another player does not imply you dont have skill it means you are not as good as them.

MORON.

You still havent said how he's inferior... so explain...you also said they went with "handedness" over "skill", so how are you arguing against Kunitz skill? IDIOT.

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#162 Me
January 07 2014, 01:43PM
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Zarny wrote:

Hall has the highest pt/gm for all Canadian LW over the last year.

And no Hall doesn't make the TSN poll because he turned 22 less than 2 months ago and has only played 209 NHL games.

Compared to say Duchene who is 10 months older and has played close to 100 more NHL games.

If the Olympics were next year Hall would be a lock.

Deal with it.

So it's all about age? Nothing to do with any other shortcomings in his game? All you do is post the same thing about the age of him and Duchene, as if that's the sole reason.

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#163 Zarny
January 07 2014, 01:50PM
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LoweBlow wrote:

I know y'all dislike Nash and consider Giroux a 'better hockey player'. I believe this is true in a top 6 role. Nash however played on a checking line with Toews & Richards in the 2010 games. That line was magnificent at shutting down Dats-Ovi-Malkin.

Sadly, Giroux's passion will be Ieft out. I still remember him laying out Crosby 30sec into Game 5 before the Flyers knocked out The Pens 2012. Perhaps the rapport between Crosby & Giroux played a roll!

I believe Babcock will put Toews-Sharp-Nash together for a checking line. No one can score on these guys!

My lines.

Kunitz-Crosby-Stamkos Benn-Getzlaf-Perry Sharp-Toews-Nash Duchesne-Tavares-Carter Bergeron (Marleau-extra)

My alternatives: Mike Richards>Marleau Seabrook>Hamhuis (chemistry is a premium in this tourney, he & Keith) Anyone>Bouwmeester

On big ice Marleau > Richards. He also plays the W not C like Richards. Same goes with Carter...he can play RW. Joe Thornton would make the team at C before Mike Richards.

Duncan Keith will play with Drew Doughty on the top pair; Seabrook and Keith were never going to be paired together this Olympics.

Hamhuis shoots left; Seabrook shoots right. That's what the decision is based on. I suppose you can disagree with that strategy, but Babcock has won a Stanley Cup and Olympic gold so his opinion counts more.

Bouwmeester is one of the best skating D in the NHL and plays regularly with Pietrangelo. He also shoots left which after Pronger and Neidermeyer retired Canada is in short supply of.

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#164 Spydyr
January 07 2014, 01:51PM
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Me wrote:

What's the reason the World Championships have to be so close to the playoffs every year?

The European hockey season ends then. The World Championships is thier Stanley Cup.

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#165 Tikkanese
January 07 2014, 02:00PM
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Canada's "B" team starting lineup:

1st line Carter Marleau Nash

1st D paring Vlasic Hamhuis

Starting Goalie Smith

See what I did there?

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#166 Serious Gord
January 07 2014, 02:10PM
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Johnnydapunk wrote:

I'm prepared for a trashing here...

I don't know if I would call the World Cup superior, it's different and is for a different market.

I'm not going to question all of your points as there is only a few that I kindof disagree with.

4. Regarding time zones, that 5 am start thing, it only applies to North America as 5 am as in Europe it is a normal evening time. I don't see that being an issue if the "World Cup" is actually held worldwide.

5. I could be wrong, but the NHL has an 82 game schedule which is one of the longest hockey schedules worldwide, and I don't know how much the players would want to play or prepare for a summer tournament. I think the players breaking down would be an issue.

6. I. Not sure where payment would come in unless there was some type of prize money involved, there is also the issue of insurance as I don't think too many team owners would be or even are happy with releasing their 5 mil a year player for a summer tournament.

7/9 I don't think there is any fear of a "Miracle on Ice" moment not happening as there is quite a bit of parity among Olympic teams, it just takes time, and you are seeing it with teams like Switzerland for example, who beat Canada in 2010 in the round robin part. I think the IIHF is doing a tremendous job of raising the level of international hockey with their World Championship structure. No one really expected the Finns to win the World Juniors this year, so gold is not guaranteed for anyone.

8. I don't think there is any country that has a full time "National team" anymore, I can only guess that it is a money issue as a National Team program can't be cheap. Something similar to football(soccer) scenario with national team breaks can't really work either as the season is pretty packed as it is.

The idea of a "World Cup" of hockey in the format that was used in 2004 and before, seems only popular in North America as a lot of Europeans take the Olympics and IIHF World Championships as their "World Cup" they both are massively important and popular to watch and players take it very seriously (well Europeans )

Ideally it would be good for the IIHF to move the world championships to a later time so it would get more North American interest, but I guess that affects the European leagues.

Apologies for the novel, I get on a topic and latch on to it :-P

Follow the money.

The various Hockey federations make bupkiss sending teams to the olympics. Hell the NHL wasn't even allowed to put a video of the gold medal goal on its website. Because of that the olympics have been a dead cat in terms of marketing revenues for the NHL/KHL.

A World Cup will make tons of dough every two years for everyone - including NHL players who won't even be playing via revenue sharing. The KHL and Swedish Elite leagues will be all over it.

The only reason why the pros went to Sochi was as a peace offering to the KHL. Now that that has been done the Pro leagues will sit down and hammer out the format for a pro world cup in 2016.

Played in last half of sept and first week of oct. - Think world cup final on Canadian Thanksgiving every two years...

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#167 Me
January 07 2014, 02:15PM
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Zarny wrote:

Yeesh are you ever slow.

The shortcomings in Hall's game (ie risk and not a good enough 200 ft game) are a direct correlation to his age and lack of experience.

No different than Crosby in 2006 or Stamkos in 2010...except Hall is younger and less experienced than both at the time.

Was Mike Richards a better player than Stamkos in 2010? No, he had simply been around the block before and when you're playing against the best of the best that matters regardless of how skilled you are.

I get it...you're a troll that doesn't like Hall.

Unfortunately for you that will last for about another year. And then Hall will be a lock for the top LW spot like Crosby has 1C locked up now.

So you have a delorean and can time travel, or predict the future now...how coool is that. It's not a lock that he learns or become the more well rounded guy needed to be that guy. I'm trolling the idiots that seem to think Kunitz isn't the right pick, based on what i have no clue.

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#168 stg
January 07 2014, 02:29PM
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Tikkanese wrote:

What's this bunk? Where's Will Acton?

Are you kidding me hes a 4th liner for edmonton how would he possibly make team canade

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#169 Eberle4MVP
January 07 2014, 03:22PM
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Thank you for the spelling lesson. Ill make sure to use spell check on a friggen blog...

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#170 Me
January 07 2014, 04:18PM
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Slats wrote:

Congrats to Hemmer for making Team Czech

and Petr Nedved!!!!! Are you kidding me at 42 years young - wait until braintrust signs him to a 3 year deal for the Oil . . . .

That's bs Petr Nedved is Canadian, should be on our Oly team..AGAIN!!!!

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#171 Stan
January 07 2014, 04:36PM
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Biggest shock to me was Logan Couture not making the team

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#172 Spoils
January 07 2014, 05:50PM
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I want to start a meme of picking a 2nd team Canada. They send two bobsled teams don't they?

#Canada2

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#173 Rod from Viking
January 07 2014, 06:45PM
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Stan wrote:

Biggest shock to me was Logan Couture not making the team

He was having surgery this week out for a month.

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#174 A-Mc
January 07 2014, 12:12PM
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I hope stamkos can play but doing a little google searching brought me to this excerpt from an article:

“The fact that he has a broken leg, that it has required surgery, the typical recovery time for surgery for an injury of this nature is in the four- to six-month range,” Wells said.

The range of estimates, according to media reports, point to at least eight to 10 weeks for the bone to heal. Shadgan says the mean length of time taken to return to training is about five to seven months, though.

Doesnt look good..

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#175 pelhem grenville
January 07 2014, 12:44PM
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...you're the second person to have changed his or her name on here after I have called them on demeaning & belittling comments...yes I know about having fun at the expense of our beloved team but I'm allowed to NOT like it! it's why I read some of the silliness... Wanye's the best at silly...but you sir are what you are...irrelevant

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#176 ToppsSmith
January 07 2014, 12:44PM
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Jeffff wrote:

Every player cannot be the same. You need to build a team, they picked team Canada with that in mind. Each player has a role to play with different strength's. Hall did not make this team because the didn't need another player with excellent speed. They needed something different.

You people turned me. Get Nash out of that uniform. We will make Crosby do the grinding on the 3rd line, Stamkos will goon it up on 4th, and the highly over rated MSL can be our penalty killing specialist. It makes perfect sense.

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#177 They're $hittie
January 07 2014, 12:50PM
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Me wrote:

So....these guys don't have skill?

And how is having all this "skill" working for the oilers?

IDIOT.

I didnt say they dont have skil, I said they dont have as much skill.

My point was they made the decision on bringing an inferior player to play with crosby even though there were better options. However they did not use that reasoning when selecting the D. Seabrook is a better player than hamhuis and vlasic and has chemistry with keith, but they decided that our great players cant play with there back hand so lets take worse players.

Read the context properly before you criticize someone.

Idiot.

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#178 ToppsSmith
January 07 2014, 12:51PM
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OILERSORDEATH wrote:

Dan Hamuis!!?? Are you fricken serious? not sure about that one either.

He is one of the better defensive choices. He has wheels and can see the plays develop. He is an extremely smart player. However I didn't expect to see him.

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#179 Wabby
January 07 2014, 01:01PM
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I didnt remember Nash playing on Toews line at the last olympics, i was sure he played first line with Crosby and i thought Iginla and from what i can remember he was the most consistant threat offensively out of the three of them. That being said that was 4 years ago and does that give him the right to be on this team, i dont think so, but obviously hockey canada does.

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#180 Me
January 07 2014, 01:02PM
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They're $hittie wrote:

I didnt say they dont have skil, I said they dont have as much skill.

My point was they made the decision on bringing an inferior player to play with crosby even though there were better options. However they did not use that reasoning when selecting the D. Seabrook is a better player than hamhuis and vlasic and has chemistry with keith, but they decided that our great players cant play with there back hand so lets take worse players.

Read the context properly before you criticize someone.

Idiot.

I read it just fine....you said inferior players...according to you Kunitz is inferior to who at left wing? Again by your logic what constitutes an inferior player when building a team?

IDIOT.

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#181 A-Mc
January 07 2014, 01:14PM
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LoweBlow wrote:

I can't bloody wait to see this team play!!!! For an Oiler fan, this'll be the first decent team we'll have had to cheer for in a LONG time!

i neeeeeed 'dis!

This is all we have to look forward to this year. It'll be a welcome distraction.

Although i'm going to have to stay away from twitter and the interwebs until after i finish watching the games.

If canada makes it into the final medal rounds, i might just take the next day off work so i can watch the games live. Hearing the score before you've watched the game is such a killjoy and with the excitement of the final in 2010.. i dont think there's any choice. I need to watch it live!

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#182 Oilers4ever
January 07 2014, 01:17PM
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Doesnt make sense to have duchene or benn ahead of Hall either. They need to fire the arseholes that puck this team. Hope they finish 4th like the jrs.

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#183 Serious Gord
January 07 2014, 01:21PM
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Tikkanese wrote:

World Cup is superior to the Olympics.

1. Every team gets an actual training camp. This eliminates the debates over who should have been named to the team. It also creates chemistry for the teams by not relying on one or two practices for that chemistry.

2. No interupted NHL schedule

3. No condensed NHL schedule

4. No 5 A.M. game times due to time zone issues

5. Gives us hockey in the summer

6. The players will like it better as they will get paid for it as opposed to the Olympics

7. If Olympics are back to the amateurs, it gives the possibility of another "Miracle On Ice" to happen again

8. An amateur Olympic program in the past gave us great players such as Cliff Ronning, that would have never made it otherwise. It also strengthens other tournaments such as the Spengler Cup

9. There would be more parity in the Olympics. Even the USA domination of basketball is another example for things to change

It will never go back to amateur. It will be U20 just like soccer. that means a few NHLers and KHLers will be eligible and will play.

And thus it will be the world juniors on steroids - and the imbalances will remain.

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#184 A-Mc
January 07 2014, 01:21PM
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Question: if the NHL doesnt go to Korea in 2018, but instead does the world cup thing, Is the world cup every year? What is the frequency of the tournament?

I think the 4 year cyclic nature of the Olympics plays a big part in boosting the importance of the hockey tournament. Having a tournament every year might result in a lesser product. Olympic hockey is brutal awesome.. Emotionally it kicks the piss out of us fans. If it were to happen every year, i'm not sure i could say the same thing..

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#185 Serious Gord
January 07 2014, 01:26PM
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Spydyr wrote:

I also like the World Cup idea but it should be every four years not every two. If it happens too often players will start to back out after long playoff runs.

They should also find that old Canada Cup trophy , award that and call it The Canada Cup.

Gretzky to Lemiuix..... Will it ever get better?

It will be every two - twice the dough ray me.

And twice as many discussions like this.

I love the idea it should be the cda cup. and the cup is on display at the HHOF - it has a slight bend in its tip and looks fantastic.

So every two years - the rotation would be: Canada - Russia/Eastern Europe - United States - Scandinavia. - Thus big crowds every year - not the empty stands like you are going to see in seoul.

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#186 Me
January 07 2014, 01:37PM
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ToppsSmith wrote:

I think Kunitz was more a pick to stick with Crosby who he has played with for a good part of the year. Instant chemistry for a national team is hard to get. I think a few of these guys made the team on that alone. Someone a Superstar can bounce off of naturally. Other nations will lack this at this level. Also he can play all 4 lines. Kunitz is a smarter pick if you look deep at it.

The only place where this is an issue is in sOiler country, Hall doesn't even make the TSN poll as a suprise not being on the team. He's not the first or second highest scoring LW from Canada either, he's 3rd. I wonder if they are whining in Winnipeg today (and showing how a "fan" struggles to be objective) that Bryan Little never came up since he was as of last night the 4th highest point totalled RW, behind Eberle who also never came up.

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#187 Me
January 07 2014, 01:41PM
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Zarny wrote:

The NHL brass certainly prefer a World Cup; I think the plan they have is every 4 years like the Olympics. Maybe every 2 but certainly not every year.

What's the reason the World Championships have to be so close to the playoffs every year?

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#188 ToppsSmith
January 07 2014, 01:50PM
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Me wrote:

The only place where this is an issue is in sOiler country, Hall doesn't even make the TSN poll as a suprise not being on the team. He's not the first or second highest scoring LW from Canada either, he's 3rd. I wonder if they are whining in Winnipeg today (and showing how a "fan" struggles to be objective) that Bryan Little never came up since he was as of last night the 4th highest point totalled RW, behind Eberle who also never came up.

Ya I said it before and I'll say it again. I would loved to see Hall and Eberle play on the big ice and play with a pure playmaker like Thorton. I think Hall didn't come up on TSN because that network hates the west coast teams. (Like most networks) they put them on TV, but they always favor Toronto or Montreal. It's grossly obvious too.

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#189 Carlos Danger
January 07 2014, 02:07PM
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Does anyone have the projected lines and d pairings from TSN

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#190 Oiler Al
January 07 2014, 02:13PM
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Curious in that if Babcock likes forward pairs, then why was Martin St. Louis not considered as the pair player with Stamkos... OR is Stmakos really not coming to play and they hold that slot open for a late surging player .

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#191 Serious Gord
January 07 2014, 02:45PM
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Zarny wrote:

Bang on that Hockey Canada favors seniority and experience. When you see Canada's World Jr's freeze under the pressure it's easy to see why.

Marleau will be fine on big ice. Super fast, kills penalties and extremely versatile. He doesn't have to be the man.

Carter is very good defensively contrary to some comments here. He killed penalties with Richards in Phi. Speed is the question mark with Carter on the big ice.

Nash is a big ?. Not playing well after the concussion, but again kills penalties and can play on a checking line.

Seguin and Hall are too young and inexperienced. They still try to force too risky plays instead of being patient.

Not to mention Bos had to put a bodyguard in front of Seguin's hotel room during the playoffs so he wouldn't skip out and party. Talented but nowhere near mature enough to play against the best of the best.

Skinner simply isn't good enough. He's not the same caliber as Hall or Seguin.

Note that I used the term "quibble". I really don't have any big issues with the players picked.

And I think my point stands: if they fail it will be blamed on a process that was too conservative.

Seguin seems to grown up lots in the past few months

And skinner is right behind Tyler and Taylor - and couture is out with an injury.

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#192 Serious Gord
January 07 2014, 02:47PM
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Yep, my Delorean is red and it is super cool.

Stamkos and Tavares aren't the most well-rounded players either. Their offense though makes up for it as will Hall's.

Hall has 88 pts in his last 82 games as a 21 y/o. 5-10 players a year put up more than a pt/gm over a whole season.

Kunitz is a questionable pick because the debate is top line with Crosby or not good enough for the Olympics.

If Crosby is out then Kunitz doesn't dress. There is enough room on the roster to have him there when sid is healthy.

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#193 Lawndemon
January 07 2014, 05:40PM
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Eberle4MVP wrote:

Thank you for the spelling lesson. Ill make sure to use spell check on a friggen blog...

I think you meant "friggin"... with an "i" not an "e".

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#194 Serious Gord
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Zarny wrote:

Yep, my Delorean is red and it is super cool.

Stamkos and Tavares aren't the most well-rounded players either. Their offense though makes up for it as will Hall's.

Hall has 88 pts in his last 82 games as a 21 y/o. 5-10 players a year put up more than a pt/gm over a whole season.

Kunitz is a questionable pick because the debate is top line with Crosby or not good enough for the Olympics.

If Crosby is out then Kunitz doesn't dress. There is enough room on the roster to have him there when sid is healthy.

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#195 hockey fan 1976
January 07 2014, 06:39PM
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Make no mistake about it guys, the reason Yakupov did not make the Russian team is because of the way his lack of playing minutes was handled earlier in the year and how much of a drama-queen he was about it. Russia could have easily over-looked his lack of scoring so far this year due to the fact that he plays for the Oilers and he has been handled wrong in the line up. As a natural scorer and PP specialist he's on this team, as an immature, whiny baby he's not.

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#196 RexHolez
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RexHolez wrote:

Crosby doesn't get along with Giroux. Sid's team. Why else would Kunitz make it? Giroux is even better than him!

Who is this guy always posting sh!t with the same name?

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#197 Harlie
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Marleau? Seriously??

http://oilersnation.com/uploads/Image/PattyMarleau12.jpg

" I always thought that someone that was extremely talented that had that grit, that had that fire, that showed the emotion and got pissed off, I always thought that that was a much more effective player, and Patrick never gave that to me. That always frustrated me. 

I don't know how you can go through a career or go through a season and never change your demeanor, never change your facial expression, not get pissed off and break something. I just don't understand that. "

http://oilersnation.com/2012/11/27/roenick-stops-by

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#198 O-Doil Rules
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Anyone who believes kLowe is such and idiot is really not seeing the big picture. Luring All Star millionaires that crave winning, nice weather and cheap real estate to Edmonton isn't a job I'd wish on my worst enemy. He made a plan to suck and build through the draft and suck we have but what did people really think?? Three first overalls and Bam!???

Trash him all you want, while your at it blame your dad for your anger displacement issues.

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#199 Rdubb
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Were there surprises on Team Canada yesterday, YOU BET!!! But, why didn't they take guys who play left-wing instead of so many centre's? I hate to be a homer, but I really think that Hall should have been named to Team Canada for several reasons, they are; - he is a natural LW and Team Canada doesn't have many natural LW'ingers, that alone blows my mind - he has speed, speed many players wish they had, and that speed would be a HUGE advantage on the bigger ice surface, it would open up so much room for the so called "skilled" players - he'll go into the "dirty areas" when he needs to, although we haven't seen that so much this past season plus - he can force d-men back, thus opening up the offensive zone - he'll be a very important part of future international games for Canada, and this would have been a very good experience - last yr he was the 2nd best lw (behind Ovie), and this season his stats (offensive) are just as good. He is tied for 2nd in A's from LW, T10 in G & T13 in SOG for the season. - imagine how good he'd be playing with an EXPERIENCED C like Crosby, Stamkos, or playing with Getzlaf & Perry??? - He is much better suited to play for TC than Marleau, Carter or Nash...Lowe even said Nash was put on the team because of his past experience wearing the Canadian Jersey...he (Nash) is perhaps the MOST OVERRATED player/forward in the NHL, he doesn't deserve the HUGE contract that he has, he has never led a team to anything, and I think always crumbled when the pressure was on his, look @ his CBJ days...

just my thoughts Peck

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#200 Serious Gord
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Rdubb wrote:

Were there surprises on Team Canada yesterday, YOU BET!!! But, why didn't they take guys who play left-wing instead of so many centre's? I hate to be a homer, but I really think that Hall should have been named to Team Canada for several reasons, they are; - he is a natural LW and Team Canada doesn't have many natural LW'ingers, that alone blows my mind - he has speed, speed many players wish they had, and that speed would be a HUGE advantage on the bigger ice surface, it would open up so much room for the so called "skilled" players - he'll go into the "dirty areas" when he needs to, although we haven't seen that so much this past season plus - he can force d-men back, thus opening up the offensive zone - he'll be a very important part of future international games for Canada, and this would have been a very good experience - last yr he was the 2nd best lw (behind Ovie), and this season his stats (offensive) are just as good. He is tied for 2nd in A's from LW, T10 in G & T13 in SOG for the season. - imagine how good he'd be playing with an EXPERIENCED C like Crosby, Stamkos, or playing with Getzlaf & Perry??? - He is much better suited to play for TC than Marleau, Carter or Nash...Lowe even said Nash was put on the team because of his past experience wearing the Canadian Jersey...he (Nash) is perhaps the MOST OVERRATED player/forward in the NHL, he doesn't deserve the HUGE contract that he has, he has never led a team to anything, and I think always crumbled when the pressure was on his, look @ his CBJ days...

just my thoughts Peck

He has a very good record of playing great in national-level games. He is widely credited with shutting down ovechkin in the last olympics.

He had an injury early this year, but then so has stamkos and no one is saying he should be kept off the team.

Hall being appointed has merit, but Crawford in an interview yesterday said that one of the main criteria they used was Hockey IQ and i think its pretty evident that Hall hasn't demonstrated he has a high one.

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