THE TEAM....

Jason Gregor
January 07 2014 10:30AM

Canada finally announced their 2014 roster for the Sochi Olympics, and without a doubt the biggest surprise is Claude Giroux not making the team.

There are eleven returning players on the 25-man roster, but in my eyes Rick Nash continues to be the most overrated player in the NHL. Nash has had one 70-point season, and since the 2010 Olympics he has scored 185 points in 228 games, 25th most amongst Canadian-born players. In that same time span Marty St.Louis has scored the most points, 271, while Giroux is third with 255.

Giroux is flat out more competitive game in, game out than Nash. Nash has only two goals in 16 NHL playoff games, but Hockey Canada seems to put more onus on the fact he has played well at the water-downed World Championships.

Nash did play okay at the last Olympics, but how much of that was because he was on Toews line, and Toews was the best player in the tournament.

Nash has 18 points in 27 games this year. No one can say he is playing well, or close to the level of Claude Giroux, but Hockey Canada choose him because he's played for them before. I guess Giroux should not play crappier in the NHL so his team could miss the playoffs and he can pad his stats at the World Championships.

Here is the roster, returning players have **.

Goalies:

  • Roberto Luongo**
  • Carey Price
  • Mike Smith

Defence:

  • Jay Bouwmeester
  • Drew Doughty**
  • Dan Hamuis
  • Duncan Keith**
  • Alex Pietrangelo
  • PK Subban
  • Marc-Edouard Vlasic
  • Shea Weber**

Forwards:

  • Jamie Benn
  • Patrice Bergeron**
  • Jeff Carter
  • Sidney Crosby**
  • Matt Duchene
  • Ryan Getzlaf**
  • Chris Kunitz
  • Patrick Marleau**
  • Rick Nash**
  • Corey Perry**
  • Patrick Sharp
  • Steven Stamkos
  • John Tavares
  • Jonathan Toews**

I still believe Canada is the favourite, because of the blueline and their top-six forwards; Crosby, Tavares, Stamkos, Getzlaf, Perry and Toews.

It will be an awesome tournament and I can't wait to watch, but picking Nash over Giroux makes little sense. Essentially they are basing it on seven good games that happened four years ago. Horrible decision.

Which decision surpised you?

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#101 Serious Gord
January 07 2014, 02:47PM
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Zarny wrote:

Yep, my Delorean is red and it is super cool.

Stamkos and Tavares aren't the most well-rounded players either. Their offense though makes up for it as will Hall's.

Hall has 88 pts in his last 82 games as a 21 y/o. 5-10 players a year put up more than a pt/gm over a whole season.

Kunitz is a questionable pick because the debate is top line with Crosby or not good enough for the Olympics.

If Crosby is out then Kunitz doesn't dress. There is enough room on the roster to have him there when sid is healthy.

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#102 Zarny
January 07 2014, 03:16PM
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Eberle4MVP wrote:

Its not even close because Jonathan Toews is one of the most respected men in hockey. Dont let his age fool you, his demeanor, his hockey IQ, his "Messier-like" attitude to put the game on his shoulders, and he is a born winner. Not Whinner, which is what a lot of people think of Crosby. Yes, he got us the golden goal 4 years ago, and yes, he is one of the best athletes in the world, but skill isnt the only determining factor in naming a Captain. Respect is. And i believe that Toews has the respect of just about everybody in the league. And he deserves the C come Olympic time.

Id like to hear an arguement on who is a better candidate? Cause, personally, I dont see a Scott Neidermayer on this team...

Toews would be an excellent choice for Captain; but to say it isn't close is simply wrong.

Crosby, despite your impression, is an incredible leader and has put Pit on his shoulders numerous times. He also has the respect of everyone in the league...and is the odds on favorite to be named Captain for Canada.

Oh and it's spelled whiner not whinner.

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#103 Cold Hard Truth
January 07 2014, 03:43PM
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@Zarny

You used a semicolon incorrectly. "But to say it isn't close is simply wrong" is a dependent clause and needs a comma, not a colon.

Before you hand out grammar/spelling lessons you should tighten up your own.

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#104 RexHolez
January 07 2014, 04:35PM
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Crosby doesn't get along with Giroux. Sid's team. Why else would Kunitz make it? Giroux is even better than him!

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#105 pkam
January 07 2014, 10:54AM
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Vernon Huynh wrote:

i would argue the biggest surprise is no MSL...we had lemieux in 2002 as our veteran, 2006 was sakic, and 2010 was iggy....i don't see our veteran leader on this team

Patrick Marleau does not count?

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#106 Tim in Kelowna
January 07 2014, 10:59AM
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Gregor,

I agree Nash was a questionable pick. But I would have put St. Louis on the team. His speed, experience, and chemistry with Stamkos make him a perfect fit for this team.

My guess is there will be two injuries up front in the next month and Giroux and St. Louis will be on the team.

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#107 A-Mc
January 07 2014, 11:11AM
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I had 1 hope going in: i really wanted either Duchene or Hall to make the team. Both these players have something to their game that is hard to pin down. I think, if given the opportunity, they could really shine.

I am really happy for Matt Duchene! The announcement leaves me with a smile on my face.

My only gripe revolves around Nash. He's an OK player but he is no where near the player of some of these other guys being left off.

Many of the players being left off the team contribute greatly to their clubs. WHen they step on the ice, it's apparent that they are in play and they are difference makers. The only way i know Rick Nash is on the ice is to look for his number.. He doesnt stand out and doesnt really contribute in a way that you would expect to see from a player that was named to the best Olympic hockey team of 2014.

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#108 Zarny
January 07 2014, 11:18AM
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Haha...I love the over-reaction.

Nash over Giroux and St. Louis surprised me but come on...shocking? No. Shawn Horcoff would have been "shocking".

Statistically Nash probably is over-rated but he's always been a player who dazzles in person. Big guy that is fast and can stick-handle in a phone booth. Not playing well after his concussion tho.

Nash has also been there, done that. When you watch the World Jr's lay an egg and play to not lose due to the pressure, being able to perform in the moment is key and was probably a factor in selecting Carter, Nash and Marleau.

Kunitz was a conundrum. Can't deny his stats and Sid is notoriously hard to play with. Individually I certainly think there are better players but established chemistry in a short tourney is very valuable so it's not surprising selection.

Seabrook missing out is a shame; simply a numbers game on the right side. Hamhuis and Vlasic though are good all-around D that cheat a bit on the defensive side. Good options to pair with Weber.

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#109 Spydyr
January 07 2014, 11:19AM
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Defence looks great can the Oilers get one of them please.

Nash and Marleau would not be on my team. Replace them with Giroux and St.Louis. Although one of them should replace Stamkos eventually.

Goaltending may be an issue.

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#110 Bad Choice
January 07 2014, 11:23AM
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What happens if Crosby gets hurt? Kunitz is useless without him.

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#111 Vernon Huynh
January 07 2014, 11:39AM
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pelhem grenville wrote:

...still haven't answered the question Vern

who's your 'leader' on this team

EDIT ... whoever did the last edit on my comment ...wtf

based on the selection of the team i would say it is indeed 87, however that's getting off topic of my original point that they should have taken MSL to be the veteran leader.

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#112 HardBoiledOil
January 07 2014, 11:39AM
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corky wrote:

Whats laughable is that Kevin Lowe is still part of this Team Canada "brainstrust".

Lowe would actually have to have a brain to be part of a braintrust...

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#113 Zamboni Driver
January 07 2014, 11:48AM
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@Tikkanese

I think that most of this post was written in a language only Esa Tikkanen would understand.

Particularly #8 and #9.

CLIFF RONNING??!!

Also, pros already play in hoops, and the Americans have had to work their asses off lately to win. In fact they won a bronze in 2004.

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#114 A-Mc
January 07 2014, 11:51AM
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ToppsSmith wrote:

Why are you obsessing with points. We have a ton of scoring on the team, guys like Nash will play a physical role that others can't. He plays a complete game, which will at times not score, but will tighten up a complete D-Game. Why does everyone want a team of cherry pickers. Teams built that way in the past has failed. I think Nash was a smart pick.

The guy i quoted used points, so i responded in his language.

I'm far from obsessing. Please go back and read what was said in the discussion from the begining.

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#115 pelhem grenville
January 07 2014, 12:16PM
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Vern...my concerns are two...goaltending and the big ice surface but I like that there's a righty and lefty on each D pairing...I like that Kunitz made it...I like that we have no smurfs (yes your MSL is big hearted)...but I worry about those things I mentioned...

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#116 Oilerz4life
January 07 2014, 12:25PM
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pelhem grenville wrote:

...no not the police but if you don't have anything else but donkey things to say (ice dancing) then drop the Oilez4life moniker and go with mister irrelevant instead...

Its an Oilers site. In case you haven't noticed, alot of lifelong fans make fun of the current plight of the Oilers around here. Interpretive Ice Dancing is an Olympic sport that I think the Oilers would represent well this year. Why don't you write up a set of site rules for us all to follow. Or since it aggravates you so much to see an Oilers comment you don't like on Oilersnation.com and being that you're in Ontario, you could stick to policing Leafs blog sites.

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#117 Eberle4MVP
January 07 2014, 12:36PM
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@Mo Playoffs Mo Problems

Ward shouldnt even be considered on a "C" Team. Terrible right now. That would be like saying Dubnyk should start in net.

There is no way Marchand makes any of my teams on a big ice surface. Too many other better and well-rounded players. You dont need an agitator in the Olympics.

Only difference on the B squad as opposed to the A squad is that the B squad would let in a pile more goals. There arent a lot of players on that list that are defensively sound.

If Harding was healthy, he should have been the third string goaltender instead of Smith. What a steller year he is having!

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#118 Zarny
January 07 2014, 12:38PM
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Mo Playoffs Mo Problems wrote:

Imagine Canada's "B-Team". They could probably still contend for a medal:

Hall - Thornton - Couture

Neal - Giroux - Eberle

St. Louis - E. Staal - J. Staal

Lucic - Seguin - Ladd

Reserves: Marchand - M. Richards - Doan - J. Williams

Boyle - Seabrook

Giordano - Phaneuf

Letang - M. Staal

Reserves: Girardi - Beauchemin

Bernier

Harding

Ward

Canada's B team is no doubt impressive, but you have 3 players who shoot left (Couture, Staal and Ladd) playing RW. That won't work.

Luckily St. Louis is actually a RW so you can move him to the 1st line.

Otherwise, you probably have to move Seguin to RW, Staal to C, and cut Ladd for Doan, Williams, Little or most likely Iginla.

Giordano and Phaneuf are both left D that shoot left.. So is M. Staal although Letang is a righty. Giordano or M. Staal likely move to the reserves for Girardi who shoots right.

G is where Canada's B team would be weakest.

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#119 pelhem grenville
January 07 2014, 12:44PM
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...you're the second person to have changed his or her name on here after I have called them on demeaning & belittling comments...yes I know about having fun at the expense of our beloved team but I'm allowed to NOT like it! it's why I read some of the silliness... Wanye's the best at silly...but you sir are what you are...irrelevant

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#120 ToppsSmith
January 07 2014, 12:44PM
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Jeffff wrote:

Every player cannot be the same. You need to build a team, they picked team Canada with that in mind. Each player has a role to play with different strength's. Hall did not make this team because the didn't need another player with excellent speed. They needed something different.

You people turned me. Get Nash out of that uniform. We will make Crosby do the grinding on the 3rd line, Stamkos will goon it up on 4th, and the highly over rated MSL can be our penalty killing specialist. It makes perfect sense.

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#121 Vernon Huynh
January 07 2014, 01:01PM
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pelhem grenville wrote:

Vern...my concerns are two...goaltending and the big ice surface but I like that there's a righty and lefty on each D pairing...I like that Kunitz made it...I like that we have no smurfs (yes your MSL is big hearted)...but I worry about those things I mentioned...

i agree...but like every olympics or WC or anything international....Canada has the best skaters in the world bar none from 1-22, of course there are the datsyuks of the world, but overall Canada > REST of the World. BUT it's always the goalies that are in the spotlight right or wrong, they're the last line of defence and whenever canada loses, goaltending is almost always the first thing pointed out.

Big Surface is another problem. Canadians NEVER play on such a huge surface from their minor hockey to CHL they are always trained in NA ice, whereas all europeans USUALLY will have some experience on the surface. Having played minor hockey in edmonton i have never even seen an international rink (outside the TV) so yea that's definitely a concern.

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#122 He Who Knows
January 07 2014, 01:19PM
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outdoorzguy wrote:

I doubt it. He'll talk about the Olympic team. But it would be interesting for Gregor to ask Lowe what qualifications he has for being on that selection committee. That answer could be real interesting. But Gregor will take the easy road. He won't bother with any Oiler issues because that is what the fans want to know.

I believe in Gregor. I'm sure Lowe probably put 6 rings on his resume and team Canada brought him in. Team Canada also gives a lot of favors to people who are completely under qualified. A lot of people know Giroux and Crosby hate each other and it's more than just the on ice stuff. Guys like Jeff Carter and Patty Marleau are not better than Giroux. He is a beast with an edge and they leave him off the team? The whole system and process wreaks of politics. This is not the best team they could put on the ice.

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#123 Oiler Al
January 07 2014, 02:13PM
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Curious in that if Babcock likes forward pairs, then why was Martin St. Louis not considered as the pair player with Stamkos... OR is Stmakos really not coming to play and they hold that slot open for a late surging player .

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#124 Eberle4MVP
January 07 2014, 03:12PM
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bestmyfeeling wrote:

i would like to hear your explanation how it's "not even close"

Its not even close because Jonathan Toews is one of the most respected men in hockey. Dont let his age fool you, his demeanor, his hockey IQ, his "Messier-like" attitude to put the game on his shoulders, and he is a born winner. Not Whinner, which is what a lot of people think of Crosby. Yes, he got us the golden goal 4 years ago, and yes, he is one of the best athletes in the world, but skill isnt the only determining factor in naming a Captain. Respect is. And i believe that Toews has the respect of just about everybody in the league. And he deserves the C come Olympic time.

Id like to hear an arguement on who is a better candidate? Cause, personally, I dont see a Scott Neidermayer on this team...

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#125 Stan
January 07 2014, 04:36PM
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Biggest shock to me was Logan Couture not making the team

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#126 O-Doil Rules
January 07 2014, 11:46PM
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Anyone who believes kLowe is such and idiot is really not seeing the big picture. Luring All Star millionaires that crave winning, nice weather and cheap real estate to Edmonton isn't a job I'd wish on my worst enemy. He made a plan to suck and build through the draft and suck we have but what did people really think?? Three first overalls and Bam!???

Trash him all you want, while your at it blame your dad for your anger displacement issues.

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#127 geoilersgist
January 07 2014, 10:40AM
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I am shocked that Nash made the team also. I don't think Stamkos will be ready in time either. The guy had his leg broken and just began skating on his own yesterday. Little surprised they left Seabrook off the team too.

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#128 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
January 07 2014, 10:40AM
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Also interesting to note...only three players that play from Canadian teams. No Oilers, Flames, Leafs, or Senators.

Edit: OOPS! Left out the Jets! No Jets either.

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#129 The 'Real' Ron Burgundy
January 07 2014, 10:48AM
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Could Giroux have declined a few world championship invites and a grudge of sorts has formed?

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#130 Lawndemon
January 07 2014, 10:57AM
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Clearly this matches up with Babcock's preference for forward pairs:

Crosby - Kunitz Getzlaf - Perry Toews - Sharp

In a tournament where quick chemistry is critical, these selections are outstanding. This means only one guy has to adapt and Babcock can make changes on the fly.

Based on this logic, the biggest surprise to me is Hamhuis instead of Seabrook.

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#131 **
January 07 2014, 11:11AM
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I can see putting Marleau in there because fo need for speed on the bigger ice and since they brought CArter they needed that. I can see CArter being there becuase they need at least one net crasher with size and good hands. I can see MAtt Douchene in replacing Couture because of the injury, but Nash??? it's not as bad a s the Bobby Ryan snub, but Nash over Girou, St. Louis or even Thronton, well that's just crazy.

I would have prefered Seabrook over either Vlasic or Hamhius, but since Babcok wants 4 and 4, oh well.

Stamkos is going to play, even if he has to duck tape his whole leg.

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#132 Chris A
January 07 2014, 11:12AM
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I threw up in my mouth a little when I heard Nash's name called.

I'm on the fence with Kunitz. Yes, he has relied somewhat on Crosby but the fact remains that he is producing at a very impressive rate right now.

James Neal is a big snub IMO. Everyone talks about Couture being such a snub, but Neal has produced a lot more goals and points than Couture from 2011-12 until now.

I would much rather see Giroux or Neal over Nash.

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#133 vetinari
January 07 2014, 11:19AM
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I hope that the list, especially for defencemen and goalies, was "MacT's 2014 Trade Target List"...

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#134 pkam
January 07 2014, 11:19AM
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Wintoon wrote:

Sisyphus your comments are on the money. It doesn't matter how well a player plays, it matters how well a player's team plays.

That does not bode well for Hall, Eberle or RNH in the future.

Pens was 2nd last and drafted Jordan Staal after drafting 4 top 2 picks 4 years in a row.

Now Crosby and Kunitz are selected, and Neal and MAF are probably on the bubble list.

Who knows what will happen 4 years later.

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#135 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
January 07 2014, 11:22AM
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Lawndemon wrote:

Clearly this matches up with Babcock's preference for forward pairs:

Crosby - Kunitz Getzlaf - Perry Toews - Sharp

In a tournament where quick chemistry is critical, these selections are outstanding. This means only one guy has to adapt and Babcock can make changes on the fly.

Based on this logic, the biggest surprise to me is Hamhuis instead of Seabrook.

I heard on one f the radio shows that the pairs thing didn't work out in the last Olympics....the pairs were dismantled / separated early in the tournament.

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#136 Spydyr
January 07 2014, 11:30AM
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Tikkanese wrote:

World Cup is superior to the Olympics.

1. Every team gets an actual training camp. This eliminates the debates over who should have been named to the team. It also creates chemistry for the teams by not relying on one or two practices for that chemistry.

2. No interupted NHL schedule

3. No condensed NHL schedule

4. No 5 A.M. game times due to time zone issues

5. Gives us hockey in the summer

6. The players will like it better as they will get paid for it as opposed to the Olympics

7. If Olympics are back to the amateurs, it gives the possibility of another "Miracle On Ice" to happen again

8. An amateur Olympic program in the past gave us great players such as Cliff Ronning, that would have never made it otherwise. It also strengthens other tournaments such as the Spengler Cup

9. There would be more parity in the Olympics. Even the USA domination of basketball is another example for things to change

I also like the World Cup idea but it should be every four years not every two. If it happens too often players will start to back out after long playoff runs.

They should also find that old Canada Cup trophy , award that and call it The Canada Cup.

Gretzky to Lemiuix..... Will it ever get better?

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#137 HardBoiledOil
January 07 2014, 11:35AM
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FSD wrote:

Look at all these Oiler fans talking about who should and should not be on the team.

Your credibility is lacking most of you thought the Oilers were a playoff team this year.

Ha Ha Ha

enter the trolls....

i wouldn't have taken Vlasic or Hamhuis over Seabrook, but other than that, it's a pretty good selection of players.

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#138 oilerjed
January 07 2014, 11:35AM
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geoilersgist wrote:

I am shocked that Nash made the team also. I don't think Stamkos will be ready in time either. The guy had his leg broken and just began skating on his own yesterday. Little surprised they left Seabrook off the team too.

I wouldnt be surprised if he is ready. I had this same injury last spring. Went undiagnosed for a month since I could walk okay on it I thought it was just bruised. After finally getting xrayed the Doc mentioned that using it actually helps heal it faster. Was back at Taekwondo after 4-5 weeks, kicking as hard as I wanted. Long story short Stamkos should be able to light it uo in Sochi

Edit: should have mentioned that it is a none weight bearing bone which is why I could walk on it ok.

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#139 Newj
January 07 2014, 11:37AM
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Mo Playoffs Mo Problems wrote:

Imagine Canada's "B-Team". They could probably still contend for a medal:

Hall - Thornton - Couture

Neal - Giroux - Eberle

St. Louis - E. Staal - J. Staal

Lucic - Seguin - Ladd

Reserves: Marchand - M. Richards - Doan - J. Williams

Boyle - Seabrook

Giordano - Phaneuf

Letang - M. Staal

Reserves: Girardi - Beauchemin

Bernier

Harding

Ward

Yup...thats a world class line up right there!

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#140 A-Mc
January 07 2014, 11:56AM
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S cottV wrote:

I wonder where the Oilers had Jamie Benn in the 2007 draft?

They took a lot of guys ahead of him that never turned into anything close to this guy.

He would sure look good at centre for the Oilers.

It might spark some epic LULZ if someone were to 'leak' edmontons draft rankings over the last 8 years.

I'm rather curious about the disparity between teams' rankings, and their reasoning behind it.

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#141 Tikkanese
January 07 2014, 11:59AM
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Zamboni Driver wrote:

I think that most of this post was written in a language only Esa Tikkanen would understand.

Particularly #8 and #9.

CLIFF RONNING??!!

Also, pros already play in hoops, and the Americans have had to work their asses off lately to win. In fact they won a bronze in 2004.

Yea 5'8" Cliff Ronning who probably would have never got an NHL shot if it wasn't for the Canadian program. 869 points in 1137 career NHL games. That's nothing to "??!!" about.

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#142 Vernon Huynh
January 07 2014, 12:06PM
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pelhem grenville wrote:

hey Vern... ...with this team I don't believe Canada will even medal at Sochi...

being a canadian hockey fanatic....my heart will always cheer for canada (and the oilers) i definitely think on paper we still have the strongest team. It's just fun to debate decisions that the higher ups make.

everyteam had question marks really (i.e. no bobby ryan, belov for russia, etc...) i'm just looking forward to 3-4am hockey games in february

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#143 A-Mc
January 07 2014, 12:12PM
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I hope stamkos can play but doing a little google searching brought me to this excerpt from an article:

“The fact that he has a broken leg, that it has required surgery, the typical recovery time for surgery for an injury of this nature is in the four- to six-month range,” Wells said.

The range of estimates, according to media reports, point to at least eight to 10 weeks for the bone to heal. Shadgan says the mean length of time taken to return to training is about five to seven months, though.

Doesnt look good..

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#144 S cottV
January 07 2014, 12:38PM
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Big ice lends itself more to guys with big reach who can move. So Nash - 6 ft 4 / 220 who can skate with anyone, makes more sense than meets the eye, offensivly and defensively.

You have to be careful applying full defensive pressure anywhere on the ice, and particularly out to the boards. Big reach guys who can skate, can apply full pressure when it makes sense, but dont have to fully commit to still be effective at limiting time / space, angling with a big body and reach.

Also helps big time on the PK side of things.

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#145 Zarny
January 07 2014, 12:42PM
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Sid wrote:

Lets face the truth Hall looked horrible on the big ice last year for Canada. He looked like a Junior hockey player using his speed to go through 5 players. It did not work and Ruff benched him. Sorry but that is the truth.

Let's face the truth, Hall turned 22 less than 2 months ago.

In Vancouver, Canada had one 22 y/o on the team...Sidney Crosby. Everyone else was 24+. And Hall is 3 months younger than Crosby was in 2010.

Hall has barely played 200 NHL games. He was the youngest player at the orientation camp by almost a year. Duchene was the only other '91 invited and he's 10 months older than Hall with almost 100 more NHL games experience.

It's not surprising when a 21 y/o struggles a bit. It really isn't. Not even in the slightest.

That is the truth.

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#146 He Who Knows
January 07 2014, 12:47PM
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Hey Gregor, I heard Lowe is going to be on your show today. This is your chance to grill his ass and let him know the fan base despises him. Thanks.

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#147 They're $hittie
January 07 2014, 12:50PM
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Me wrote:

So....these guys don't have skill?

And how is having all this "skill" working for the oilers?

IDIOT.

I didnt say they dont have skil, I said they dont have as much skill.

My point was they made the decision on bringing an inferior player to play with crosby even though there were better options. However they did not use that reasoning when selecting the D. Seabrook is a better player than hamhuis and vlasic and has chemistry with keith, but they decided that our great players cant play with there back hand so lets take worse players.

Read the context properly before you criticize someone.

Idiot.

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#148 ToppsSmith
January 07 2014, 12:51PM
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OILERSORDEATH wrote:

Dan Hamuis!!?? Are you fricken serious? not sure about that one either.

He is one of the better defensive choices. He has wheels and can see the plays develop. He is an extremely smart player. However I didn't expect to see him.

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#149 S cottV
January 07 2014, 12:51PM
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@pkam

I guess he played in the BCJHL, in his draft year, so Vancouver comes out looking the dumbest. He put up a lot of points that year in Victoria, so - the Oilers should have been aware.

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#150 They're $hittie
January 07 2014, 12:54PM
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FSD wrote:

Look at all these Oiler fans talking about who should and should not be on the team.

Your credibility is lacking most of you thought the Oilers were a playoff team this year.

Ha Ha Ha

Does FSD stand for Flames Suck D#$@?

How is wonder kid Sven Bartschi working out for you. Thought you all said he was going to get 55 points this year.

LOL

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