IF THERE'S EVER A CONCERN: HANDS ON

Robin Brownlee
January 08 2014 02:18PM

 

 

Frustration within the passionate and loyal fan base of the Edmonton Oilers is growing by the day and by the loss with the Oilers destined to miss the playoffs for an eighth straight season. Rightfully so.

Much of that frustration -- again, rightfully so -- is being directed at Kevin Lowe, the team's former GM who is now owner Daryl Katz's president of hockey operations. There was a sign of that, literally, at Rexall Place during Tuesday's 5-2 loss to the St. Louis Blues. A fan sitting front row displayed a cardboard sign that read: "Fire Kevin Lowe."

The frustration directed toward Lowe is, in large part, because of the perception that, while he's been bumped out of the hot seat and into the background publicly in his position by Katz, he's still had his fingerprints all over player personnel decisions – trades and free agent signings -- made by former GM Steve Tambellini and now Craig MacTavish.

Actually, perception is the wrong word. Lowe confirmed his participation in the decision-making process Tuesday during a wide-ranging interview on the Jason Gregor Show on TSN 1260. While Lowe didn't get specific about how much influence he has, it's obvious he's hands-on – we're not talking about the façade of the "senior advisor" position Pat Quinn was dumped in.

Lowe has been, as has been noted before, the one constant in Edmonton's front office through these eight years of ineptitude and losing dating back to the 2006 Stanley Cup final, and beyond.

WHAT HE SAID

Gregor asked Lowe what role he played as POHO in the decision-making process with Tambellini and now MacTavish.

"I would say that uh, that uh . . . really, it's a tough, tough question," Lowe said. "Craig is the general manager, as was Steve Tambellini. They go about their business and shop around the NHL with the scouting staff and collectively throughout the organization try to come up with ways to make the hockey club better, whether it's signing a player or trading a player or what have you.

"At the end of the way, when those recommendations or when those ideas come up, Craig will talk to me and get my feelings on it and you know . . . we talk enough over the course of the season that I generally know where he's going on things and, you know, there's an owner that has to make a call in terms of whether you're going to spend the money for a free agent or trade an asset that's been part of the organization for a while, so there's a collective decision being made.

"I mean, if there's any concern that our people can't make decisions without me endorsing them, then that's not accurate. We've always had a, taken the approach from the day that I took over as general manager that we're collectively going to make decisions – not that it's a purely democratic process, but it's wise of you to involve as many people in your organization when you are making decisions.

"It's not a fiefdom where one person says, 'No, this is what we're going to do.' It's a collective group decision on any strategy that the hockey team is going to make. It's not easy. We've been in this rebuild and it's incredibly frustrating for everyone. The fans should know that, for the people that are running the show they are probably, I don't even know if you can compare it, but in terms of frustration, it's incredibly frustrating, but we're in it. We are where we are.

"The only thing we can do is continue to work hard and believe that, in time, if we've done the drafting we hope we've done and we are patient with the young players that they're going to become the players we expect them to be and it'll result in a, you know, positive and exciting hockey team."

(Photo via @quickone1 on Twitter)

STARTS AT THE TOP

Lowe was at the top of Edmonton's management food chain as GM for eight seasons – he had nobody to answer to in hockey operations decisions, except ownership, until he was moved to POHO in July 2008. Essentially, anybody Lowe huddled with when making decisions as the GM was an underling – an assistant GM, members of his scouting staff or coaches. It stands to reason Lowe's opinion carried more weight than anybody else's did.

Was that the case during Tambellini's troubled and indecisive tenure in Lowe's former position? I don't know for sure, but I doubt it. Is that the case now with MacTavish? No way. Still, you'd have to be a fool to think Lowe doesn't carry considerable swing in every hockey decision made now.

Simply put, Lowe had more say than anybody else in the organization in building the Oilers from 2000 to 2008 as GM. At the very least, he has had considerable influence in hockey decisions made since then. That's a span of command and influence approaching 14 seasons.

Draw your own conclusions.

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#1 bwar
January 08 2014, 02:29PM
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Yeah but he has six rings therefore is always correct.

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#2 EP
January 08 2014, 02:31PM
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Admittedly, I was somewhat indifferent to Kevin Lowe prior to hearing the interview on Gregor's show yesterday. After listening to him bumble through the question of his involvement in the decision making process within the Oilers, it is crystal clear to me that he is the source of the problem. He should be embarrassed by the way he responded to that question. It's not a "tough" question, it's pretty simple, he has his greasy paws on every decision in this organization. He is responsible for where we are today. His immediate dismissal is necessary.

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#3 dragon
January 08 2014, 02:33PM
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Until the team starts losing money, Daryl Katz will have no reason to fire Mr. 6 Rings. Do you want a better Oilers team? Stop going to the games...

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#4 VK63
January 08 2014, 02:38PM
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My conclusion.

MacT is neutered.

Further to that conclusion.

what a joke.

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#5 W
January 08 2014, 02:40PM
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You have to give Lowe full marks for being on the show. He is a courageous, bright, passionate man who loves the Oilers and will be successful in the end! Winning or losing is a group and team effort, leave Mr. Lowe alone! He is not the problem nor is Mr. MacTavish or Mr.Eakins!

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#6 RJ
January 08 2014, 02:41PM
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dang you kevin lowe. dang you.

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#7 Twoskidoos
January 08 2014, 02:49PM
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I don't believe that KLowe has his fingerprints and signature on every trade or signing. Detroit is a perfect example of management by committee, it's not just one guy making decisions it's a collective. From a business perspective why wouldn't you want input from many people rather than an individual?

I don't see anything wrong with the approach. Of course it's Katz team and if I'm the owner of any business would want to know what I'm spending my money on, and that should be no different with a hockey club. It's big money being shelled out for what essentially become assets.

The actual team is the problem and MacT is faced with fixing Tambo's terrible management and inability to make a decision. He (Tambo) essentially spun his wheels his entire tenure here. Give MacT some time, he'll get it right.

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#8 RexHolez
January 08 2014, 02:50PM
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Why did Gregor have to ask him such a grey "gotcha question"?

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#9 TeddyTurnbuckle
January 08 2014, 02:50PM
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Have we traded Gagner yet

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#10 2004Z06
January 08 2014, 02:51PM
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W wrote:

You have to give Lowe full marks for being on the show. He is a courageous, bright, passionate man who loves the Oilers and will be successful in the end! Winning or losing is a group and team effort, leave Mr. Lowe alone! He is not the problem nor is Mr. MacTavish or Mr.Eakins!

Must be a Tier 1 fan.

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#11 2004Z06
January 08 2014, 02:52PM
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Safe to say that security will be checking everyone for signs at the next game?

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#12 Kr55
January 08 2014, 02:52PM
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Well, nice to have confirmation Lowe is involved in every decision. Also have to remember all these people involved in the decision making process are people he picked to join the team. Basically everything this team does roots back to Kevin Lowe. That will include when we break Florida's 10 season playoff drought record. I hope that is a proud day for him.

The only hope for this team is a complete house cleaning. Anyone fired below Lowe will just be replaced by another Lowe guy.

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#13 Tikkanese
January 08 2014, 02:54PM
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I would think most, if not all teams involve everyone from GM, Asst GM, coaches, scouts, President and most definately the owners on every trade and signing. I don't know why you are surprised.

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#14 Blucifer Copperballs
January 08 2014, 02:55PM
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W wrote:

You have to give Lowe full marks for being on the show. He is a courageous, bright, passionate man who loves the Oilers and will be successful in the end! Winning or losing is a group and team effort, leave Mr. Lowe alone! He is not the problem nor is Mr. MacTavish or Mr.Eakins!

Go home, you're drunk.

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#15 LURKEYSON
January 08 2014, 02:56PM
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W wrote:

You have to give Lowe full marks for being on the show. He is a courageous, bright, passionate man who loves the Oilers and will be successful in the end! Winning or losing is a group and team effort, leave Mr. Lowe alone! He is not the problem nor is Mr. MacTavish or Mr.Eakins!

Oh? then what is the problem? That just leaves the players. Yes they are not big enough, skilled enough, anthying enough. But guess who gets the players, who develops the players?? The President/the GM and the coach.

What other job in this world, could you do as pathetic of a job as Lowe has done, and still have your job. NOt to mention he was promoted.

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#16 Drunk Farmer
January 08 2014, 02:57PM
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The arrogance of this front office, KLowe specifically, is absolutely disgusting. The brain trust who got us where we are right now, are back together to continue this path of disgrace. (Howson, MacT, Lowe). I seem to remember this combination of hockey acumen once stating that Robert Neilson was someone who you could build a franchise around. Our pipeline of prospects has been a complete bust until recent time, and we not sure how the new crop are going to develop. Maybe some problems as an organization in developing talent? I think that record speaks for itself

I actually would not have any problem with MacT as GM, but under the current circumstances I believe that a wholesale change of management is necessary. Lowe at the very least should get the axe if not for at least the appearance of some accountability.

As a side note to the state of our beloved Oilers; we have season tickets in the family, and have had for 15 years. There was once upon a time where arguments were had on who got which tickets and who got to go to the games. The argument now is who wants to drive the hour each way to sit through another boring mediocre hockey game and listen to the same post game comments and bogus trade scenarios on the long quiet drive home in -30 weather in mid-January. There once was a list of friends who would gladly take the tickets off our hands if we couldn’t make it. Some would actually offer money in exchange for a night of entertainment. Now, there are literally games that I cannot give my tickets away for. “I will watch at home tonight”, “It’s too cold”, “Roads are crappy”, “Phoenix… seriously, maybe next time” are all excuses not to take free tickets to an Oilers game this year.

I am not entirely sure where the future of our franchise is heading, but being the laughing stock of the NHL is starting to become a little tired. Not sure what the answer is but… I won minor hockey week in 1996 with the K of C tier II midgets if there is ever a concern…

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#17 2004Z06
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LURKEYSON wrote:

Oh? then what is the problem? That just leaves the players. Yes they are not big enough, skilled enough, anthying enough. But guess who gets the players, who develops the players?? The President/the GM and the coach.

What other job in this world, could you do as pathetic of a job as Lowe has done, and still have your job. NOt to mention he was promoted.

Promoted 3 times in fact! Player to coach, coach to GM, GM to POHO!

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#18 The Soup Fascist
January 08 2014, 02:59PM
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At the end of this year the Oilers will have made the playoffs twice in the last 12 years. This is atrocious.

The Oilers are, for all intents and purposes, a "cap team" who, halfway through the season are last in the conference - a mere 18 points out of a wildcard spot. Unacceptable is not a strong enough word.

A common thread throughout this stretch has been Mr. Lowe. I do not dislike Mr. Lowe. No matter what I think of his hockey management skills I would never say he is not an intelligent individual. I also think his motives are sincere.

However, it is not working. There is no end in sight. The team is headed in the wrong direction. A very loyal and (too) patient fan base has had enough. I can only hope Mr. Lowe does the right thing and falls on his sword and resigns - and soon. It is the right thing to do.

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#19 Puck_In_Throat
January 08 2014, 03:01PM
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If Lowe is correct and the decisions being made are made "by committee" with input from a number of people, it stands as logical that every person who was part of those decisions is to blame.

It would also be logical that if you don't like the outcome of the decisions, you need new blood to bring in a fresh perspective to the group. That doesn't necessarily mean replacing everyone, but it does mean bringing in people from new organizations.

But what do the Oilers do? They re-hash old ideas by bringing in the same guys (Howson, MacT, Lowe) over and over. How well has that worked?

If I am Katz, I fire the lot of them and hope to god that I can snag Jim Benning (assistant GM with the Bruins) before Buffalo gets their greasy paws on him.

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#20 The Soup Fascist
January 08 2014, 03:03PM
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Apparently I cannot work a keyboard. Sorry for the double post, folks

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#21 Kr55
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The Soup Fascist wrote:

At the end of this year the Oilers will have made the playoffs twice in the last 12 years. This is atrocious.

The Oilers are, for all intents and purposes, a "cap team" who, halfway through the season are last in the conference - a mere 18 points out of a wildcard spot. Unacceptable is not a strong enough word.

A common thread throughout this stretch has been Mr. Lowe. I do not dislike Mr. Lowe. No matter what I think of his hockey management skills I would never say he is not an intelligent individual. I also think his motives are sincere.

However, it is not working. There is no end in sight. The team is headed in the wrong direction. A very loyal and (too) patient fan base has had enough. I can only hope Mr. Lowe does the right thing and falls on his sword and resigns - and soon. It is the right thing to do.

Well said. His intentions are pure, but he just doesn't have what it takes to compete in this age against all the smart hockey minds out there running the rest of the NHL teams. His loyalty to his friends also brings the team down because it prevents any new fresh ideas from entering into this decision making process he's created. It's just a bunch of the same guys all trying to do what they've never done before without any new ideas.

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#22 Jerry
January 08 2014, 03:05PM
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Anybody else with Kevin Lowe's record would have been fired years ago.

He is a joke. Unfortunately the joke is on the fans.

How does this guy look himself in the mirror.

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#23 Walter Sobchak
January 08 2014, 03:09PM
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@Twoskidoos

"The actual team is the problem and MacT is faced with fixing Tambo's terrible management and inability to make a decision. He (Tambo) essentially spun his wheels his entire tenure here. Give MacT some time, he'll get it right."

While I agree with a lot of what you said and I'm certainly not a Tambellini fan, I just don't get when people say Tambellini LEFT a mess for MacTavish?

Tambellini gave MacTavish 5 damn good hockey player's, you have to remember WHO gave Tambellini the instructions to do things!

MacTavish cleared the cupboards.

I for one second don't believe Tambellini didn't want to sign Gagner! That's got Lowe all over it!

I believe Tambelinni wanted to trade Hemsky, instead Lowe gave him that extension.

This team is now run by the exact same staff that spun it into the ground 8 years ago, that's my concern.

Tambellini was Terrible, MacTavish has been less then unremarkable & Lowe record speaks for itself.

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#24 Brooser
January 08 2014, 03:11PM
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I was on the fence regarding Lowe. I am no longer on that fence. Nowe.

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#25 vetinari
January 08 2014, 03:12PM
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It's a mess.

Lowe's record is basically that when he was GM, he kept the team hovering around playoff contention, some years in and some years out, and had one Cup run before being booted upstairs and everything imploded... and that implosion is still going on.

Whether he is the final decision-maker on the team or the chief amongst a group of decision-makers, the optics remain the same: every guy takes responsibility for the guys immediately below them whether they put them into those positions or not. Eakins wears it when the team underperforms. MacT wears it when Eakins can't work with the players that he has. And Lowe wears it for putting in two successive rookie GMs (Tambellini followed by MacT) on a rebuilding team.

Had either Tambellini or MacT ever been through a rebuild as a GM? No. Had either ever been GMs in the NHL or any other league? No.

Lowe's most damning mark on his record is that his second rookie GM has to rebuild the rebuild that his first rookie GM screwed up-- that alone should be a firing offence at the NHL level.

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#26 Oilers G- Nations Poet Laureate
January 08 2014, 03:12PM
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Simply put it here

KEVIN LOWE HAS GOT TO GO

He's responsible.

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#27 Sal-Sational
January 08 2014, 03:13PM
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we need more signs at the game. "Lowe has to GO"!! - we need to pay whatever it takes to get 2 Solid D-Men - We need to get rid of Our 2 Assistant coaches who somehow managed to survive 3 head coach firings!! - we need a real second line center (maybe Yakimov whos 6'5 210lbs at age 19)

Line Combos should look something like:

Forwards: Hall - RNH - Perron Slepyshev - Yakimov - Yakupov Pitlick - Gordon - ?? Gazdac - Lander/Arcabello - Juensuu

Defence: ?? - Schultz Petry - Ference Marincin- Klefbom

Goalie: ?? ??

No Eberle, Hemsky, Smyth, Gagner, Jones, = around $20M that can be used to get 2 TOP Class Dmen and a really good Goalie

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#28 To do with nothing
January 08 2014, 03:16PM
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Best Minor hockey league teams name:

Beacon Heights Bandits [ Yosimite Sam was our logo] Kilkenny Komets Next ?

Yeah- tired of reading about losing and Lowe...

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#29 The Soup Fascist
January 08 2014, 03:18PM
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To do with nothing wrote:

Best Minor hockey league teams name:

Beacon Heights Bandits [ Yosimite Sam was our logo] Kilkenny Komets Next ?

Yeah- tired of reading about losing and Lowe...

Castor Raiders

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#30 Spoils
January 08 2014, 03:20PM
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I like MacT, and I know we have had too many coaches, but how is this not absolute rock bottom.

I get that Eakins and MacT were a big reboot, but given how bad that has gone we need to acknowledge that we are are in a place where we have meaningless games we should use for any new world order's learning period.

Might as well give a new group one additional trade deadline and one additional draft.

So yes, Fire LOWE and bring in a BIG someone like Burke - a big experienced management name. Give them the keys to the kingdom - and respect that this could mean firing Eakins and could mean trading any player and could mean firing MacT.

PLEASE DO THIS NOW.

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#31 To do with nothing
January 08 2014, 03:21PM
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Castor Raiders

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Lol - not bad bro, not bad .

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#32 Cynic
January 08 2014, 03:21PM
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There is one person in that photo who is critical to Carpetbagger Katz's tenure as owner of the Oilers. And it's not Kevin Lowe.

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#33 camdog
January 08 2014, 03:21PM
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How many assistant coaches have survived multiple head coach firings and GM firings? It just doesn't happen, not unless there's somebody higher in the organisation protecting them. It's been pretty obvious from the start the Kevin Lowe does exert significant influence on his GM's. I don't understand how this can even be disputed?

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#34 David S
January 08 2014, 03:23PM
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"you know, there's an owner that has to make a call in terms of whether you're going to spend the money for a free agent or trade an asset that's been part of the organization for a while, so there's a collective decision being made"

The whole team is neutered. As Lowe said, inevitably Katz makes the final call. Nothing changes until he makes winning the number 1 objective of this team.

Firing Lowe won't make any difference whatsoever, despite what everybody thinks.

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#35 -30-
January 08 2014, 03:24PM
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"At the end of the way..."? Huh?

Maybe at the end of the day?

I met Kevin Lowe through work a few years ago. If first impressions mean anything my impression of him was as a self important, self absorbed, pretending to be intelligent person.

Guess I was wrong. :(

When will Katz lose his man crush on hockey players? Until he does Edmonton's NHL team seem destined to wander in the wilderness.

-30-

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#36 oilerjed
January 08 2014, 03:25PM
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I wonder why KLowe has finally decided to come out from under his rock? Im not a conspiracy theory nut but here is a hopeful and plausable thought:

Fans are on the brink of a full scale rebellion and MacT is taking major heat without any sunrise on the horizon.

Maybe this is the beginning of the end for KLowe and he is readying himself to fall on the sword and take the heat off MacT by inferring that he is in fact making decisions. I hope Im right because that means he will soon be gone.

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#37 Greg
January 08 2014, 03:27PM
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W wrote:

You have to give Lowe full marks for being on the show. He is a courageous, bright, passionate man who loves the Oilers and will be successful in the end! Winning or losing is a group and team effort, leave Mr. Lowe alone! He is not the problem nor is Mr. MacTavish or Mr.Eakins!

Of all the bullsh*t I've read on here... This takes the cake. What the hell??? It hurts to see these type of fans are still out there. The same fans that jump out if their seats when the oilers score late in a game to make it 6-2. Pathetic

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#38 2004Z06
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-30- wrote:

"At the end of the way..."? Huh?

Maybe at the end of the day?

I met Kevin Lowe through work a few years ago. If first impressions mean anything my impression of him was as a self important, self absorbed, pretending to be intelligent person.

Guess I was wrong. :(

When will Katz lose his man crush on hockey players? Until he does Edmonton's NHL team seem destined to wander in the wilderness.

-30-

Ahem! That's desert...ha ha.

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#39 Romanus
January 08 2014, 03:34PM
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Drunk Farmer wrote:

The arrogance of this front office, KLowe specifically, is absolutely disgusting. The brain trust who got us where we are right now, are back together to continue this path of disgrace. (Howson, MacT, Lowe). I seem to remember this combination of hockey acumen once stating that Robert Neilson was someone who you could build a franchise around. Our pipeline of prospects has been a complete bust until recent time, and we not sure how the new crop are going to develop. Maybe some problems as an organization in developing talent? I think that record speaks for itself

I actually would not have any problem with MacT as GM, but under the current circumstances I believe that a wholesale change of management is necessary. Lowe at the very least should get the axe if not for at least the appearance of some accountability.

As a side note to the state of our beloved Oilers; we have season tickets in the family, and have had for 15 years. There was once upon a time where arguments were had on who got which tickets and who got to go to the games. The argument now is who wants to drive the hour each way to sit through another boring mediocre hockey game and listen to the same post game comments and bogus trade scenarios on the long quiet drive home in -30 weather in mid-January. There once was a list of friends who would gladly take the tickets off our hands if we couldn’t make it. Some would actually offer money in exchange for a night of entertainment. Now, there are literally games that I cannot give my tickets away for. “I will watch at home tonight”, “It’s too cold”, “Roads are crappy”, “Phoenix… seriously, maybe next time” are all excuses not to take free tickets to an Oilers game this year.

I am not entirely sure where the future of our franchise is heading, but being the laughing stock of the NHL is starting to become a little tired. Not sure what the answer is but… I won minor hockey week in 1996 with the K of C tier II midgets if there is ever a concern…

Ditto. Have had problems giving tickets away this year when I can't go.

They even had the nerve to up the parking prices this week, which means I now have to pay even more to go watch this crap.

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#40 Kr55
January 08 2014, 03:35PM
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David S wrote:
"you know, there's an owner that has to make a call in terms of whether you're going to spend the money for a free agent or trade an asset that's been part of the organization for a while, so there's a collective decision being made"

The whole team is neutered. As Lowe said, inevitably Katz makes the final call. Nothing changes until he makes winning the number 1 objective of this team.

Firing Lowe won't make any difference whatsoever, despite what everybody thinks.

Katz is letting these guys spend to the cap though. Of course it's Katz's fault that we have a terrible team because he keeps Lowe in charge. But if he just replaced Lowe with someone actually qualified to run a team in the NHL in 2014, we would be just fine. Instead of a bunch of stupid ideas being presented to him to OK for blowing all his money, he would get smart ones.

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#41 Blucifer Copperballs
January 08 2014, 03:35PM
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The Soup Fascist wrote:

Castor Raiders

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Book Hockey

NOTE* you will have to say it a few times fast to get it.

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#42 Chainsawz
January 08 2014, 03:37PM
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Not what I was expecting, Brownlee.

Nice article.

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#43 David S
January 08 2014, 03:38PM
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Kr55 wrote:

Katz is letting these guys spend to the cap though. Of course it's Katz's fault that we have a terrible team because he keeps Lowe in charge. But if he just replaced Lowe with someone actually qualified to run a team in the NHL in 2014, we would be just fine. Instead of a bunch of stupid ideas being presented to him to OK for blowing all his money, he would get smart ones.

We're NOT at the cap this year. Not even close. $7M below in fact.

http://www.capgeek.com/oilers/

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#44 A-Mc
January 08 2014, 03:40PM
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I went to Lowes a few times.. I got a good deal on power tools!

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#45 BigE91
January 08 2014, 03:40PM
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I really wonder how much the Oilers current futility can be attributed to Lowe's willingness to throw around the offer sheets in the wake of the 2006 Finals run and subsequent departure of 2/3 of the players?

Are NHL GMs and executives holding the Oilers in some sort of purgatory because KLowe was willing to "throw grenades" at the 29 other organizations?

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#46 Gordie Wayne
January 08 2014, 03:50PM
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I am listening to Lowe on the podcast of Gregor's show on Tuesday since I missed the original interview.

I am just at the beginning, and Lowe says he would rather talk about players that made the Olympic team versus players that didn't make the team.

He then immediately goes on for about 2 minutes about Claude Giroux and all of the reasons he didn't make the team...

This is the man leading our team in the rebuild...sigh... :(

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#47 Kr55
January 08 2014, 03:51PM
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David S wrote:

We're NOT at the cap this year. Not even close. $7M below in fact.

http://www.capgeek.com/oilers/

The extra room is for bonuses. If all bonuses get paid out, we will exceed the cap.

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#48 madjam
January 08 2014, 03:52PM
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Great minds think alike . Lowe appears to be in control of hiring those below him with similar beliefs . Sometimes it works , but does not appear to be doing the fans any favors , or accomplishing an on ice product capable of making even the playoffs anymore . Clean house - I doubt would make anything worse at this time , and new management would have plenty of time to change that philosophy and culture for next season . The sooner the better I feel , as this season is already lost .

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#49 **
January 08 2014, 03:56PM
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If there is ever a concern...

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#50 Days
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The Flames have two really good goalies we should be able to trade Eberle for on of them.

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