Reverse Mailbag - My Questions for OilersNation

Jason Strudwick
December 02 2014 06:00PM

YourTurn

Every week I answer five questions from all of you. The good, bad and dumb questions are all answered. It is now your turn to answer mine. I only have three questions. I couldn't compete with your ability to produce five.

Here you go!

Podium

1 - Why do you want Katz, MacT or Lowe to come out and speak? 

This makes no sense to me. What do you want to hear? An apology? A plan? Are you looking to be inspired? Talk is just that...talk. It's not going to change anything. 

As a player, I was always about results. If a teammate or a coach told me they were going to do something I would think it's great, they are talking a good game, lets see how this goes.  If a guy said he wanted to get stronger, would I see him in the gym the next morning? If he was concerned about his weight, would I see him putting back bagels dripping in cream cheese the next morning? He wanted to kill penalties, so would he flamingo all over the ice when shots were coming at him?

Talk is easy and cheap. Results are all that matters. Anyone can say they want to change or improve, but putting a plan into action is much harder.

Personally, I don't need to hear from anyone in the organization. This won't do anything for me. I suppose, if it is an action press conference, where a change is happening with the staff or a trade, then I would be interested. I am not interested, however, in a state of the union. Quite frankly you shouldn't be either.

ShooterTutor

2 - Why are the goalies blamed for so much of the lack of success for the Oilers?

Ben Scrivens and Viktor Fasth have yet to prove they are NHL starters. That day may never come, however, since they are both fighting for their lives in the net every night.  Right now, they're getting very little consistent support around them from their teammates. The lack of an overall team defensive structure, and consistent ability to play it, has got to be frustrating for these two. These goalies face five bell chances every single period. Breakaways, two on ones, three on twos, and top NHL snipers being left in the slot alone happens far too frequently. 

These two have let in some bad goals, and they have owned up to it. But why do you all let the skaters off the hook with their defensive play? I can't understand it. Yes, the goalies are easy targets to pin a failed season on, but there's plenty of blame to spread around. 

Shoot

3 - Why is it just assumed that Oilers scorers that are struggling to score will simply rebound to their "previous" shooting percentage of years past?

This may be the most baffling of my three questions. This question is the one I would really want some clear answers for. 

I get that players go through tough times, and that their previously set benchmarks are what becomes expected for them. But if a player is struggling to score is it just luck that turns around for them? Can it be that easy? LUCK? In a game that players work out, and practice all year to prepare for, success comes down to the worst phrase in hockey: "PUCK LUCK?" No, it doesn't.

Goals are earned the hard way. You don't score goals by shooting from the perimeter, or trying to tip pucks in with a long stick so you don't get roughed up in front of the goalie. Scoring goals hurts, and it should because it is so much fun to do. 

An example is Yakupov. His shooting percentage is 5.5%. Down from 9.0% last season. He is playing too much on the perimeter. He needs to get to the net, and battle for position and goals. That will get him on track and open up for the further out shots he likes to shoot. That is what will increase his goal total and shooting percentage. It won't just go up on it on because that is what has happened in the past. He needs to change his playing habits, not pray to the hockey gods for the words phrase in hockey, "PUCK LUCK"

I now leave it to you, OilersNation. Answer my three questions like I answer your five every week. You owe me, and I am genuinely interested in your answers.

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Jason hosts the Jason Strudwick show from 9pm to 12am, weeknights on the team 1260. He is an instructor at Mount Carmel Hockey Academy and loves working with the kids. Having played over 650 games in the NHL, Jason has some great stories and unique takes on life in the NHL. He loves Slurpees and Blizzards. Dislikes baggy clothes and close talkers.
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#151 Spiel
December 03 2014, 10:25AM
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1. It is not so much what Katz/Lowe/MacT say in a prepared statement, but that they can be asked questions. The fans pay the way for this team. The media is the fans only real link to the owner and management. Management must make themselves available to answer the questions the fans want asked. This requires the media doing their job and not towing the Oiler party line.

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#152 ubermiguel
December 03 2014, 10:29AM
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1 - Why do you want Katz, MacT or Lowe to come out and speak?

Katz needs to come out, talk about a vision for the team, admit to prior mistakes and clean management house. Communication plus action will engenger support. Lowe or MacT have nothing to say that I want to hear at this point, except Lowe resigning or MacT annoucing the greatest trade of his career.

2 - Why are the goalies blamed for so much of the lack of success for the Oilers?

Goalie is one of the most important positions in all of team sports up there with QB and pitcher. If you can change one person and get the biggest impact it's goalie. We've all seen what a hot goalie can do for a team. We've also seen what a cold goalie can do. Problem is with a team this lousy there's little chance for a cold goalie to heat up so you stay in this never ending cycle of suck.

3 - Why is it just assumed that Oilers scorers that are struggling to score will simply rebound to their "previous" shooting percentage of years past?

Unless we have evidence to the contrary it's a safe bet that data will regress to the mean. What you describe about Yak is a great example of evidence to the contrary though. Until he goes back to what he was doing before the safe bet his shooting percentage will remain low. I'm ok with low shooting percentage as a development step. First step: get more pucks to the net. Second step: get bodies in front of the net. The 2nd step seems to be missing making a sound 1st step pointless.

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#153 cmandev77
December 03 2014, 10:29AM
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Zamboni Driver wrote:

This was insightful, deep. Meaningful.

I cried a little in Chapter 14.

Then shocked at the end - Turns out he was dead the whole time??!!

You sir have won the internet today! That was funny, thanks for the laugh!!!

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#154 MB
December 03 2014, 10:32AM
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Here is the answer to your question, the coaches have to coach better and the players have to play better. What else do you need to know?

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#155 Towersofdub
December 03 2014, 10:44AM
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word is that the oilers are going to lose tonight, and Eakins get's canned tomorrow.

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#156 Newj
December 03 2014, 10:46AM
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Towersofdub wrote:

word is that the oilers are going to lose tonight, and Eakins get's canned tomorrow.

Wishful thinking

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#157 bradleypi
December 03 2014, 10:47AM
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Jason Strudwick wrote:

I don't think that Eakins is a defensive coach. Any NHL would have come in and asked the players to play a better defensive game. Fire wagon hockey is fun to watch but ultimately unsuccessful.

The mix of players needs to be changed. More consistent players are needed through the lineup

Ok, but by consistent, do you mean grittier? And one more question then I'm done.... If you don't think Dallas is a defensive coach, what is he good at then, cause I don't see it. the team isn't offensive at all, the power play is almost regressing backwards, where it allows more than it scores lately, and the pk is ok, but far from good...are these guys even fit, because they are never ready to start a game, and they usually look gassed at the end... what is Eakins "thing" in coaching?

Thanks for replying!

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#158 Randaman
December 03 2014, 10:48AM
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Towersofdub wrote:

word is that the oilers are going to lose tonight, and Eakins get's canned tomorrow.

Correction:

They will lose tonight but Eakins will not be fired.

#becauseoilers

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#159 Bucknuck
December 03 2014, 11:17AM
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Answers to questions.

1) I don't want Katz to speak unless someone is getting fired. I don't want Lowe to speak. I don't want MacTavish to speak unless he is announcing a major change or trade.

2) Goalies are getting blamed because they are performing statistically awful, and everyone needs a scapegoat. Remember this is a city that has been blessed with excellent goaltending in the past (Cujo, Roloson, Fuhr) and they have unreasonable expectations. All in all some of the responsibility falls on the goalies, but there have been serious defensive lapses. You are right. Enough blame to go around.

3) We gotta have some hope somewhere, don't we? Hoping that players will rebound at some point is a reasonable thing. Expecting it is quite another.

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#160 Tikkanese
December 03 2014, 11:17AM
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1. I agree and don't care what they have to say as it's all been a lot of talk and no substance so far.

I however want to hear MacT say he's traded for a Yandle or OEL or Shattenkirk or any top pairing calibre D for that matter. The Oilers desperately need two of them.

I also want to hear that he's sent Leon down. Don't really care if it means Lander comes up or they've traded for a stop gap center. 0 offense from Lander, 0 offense from Leon is a sideways move but it at least saves Leon from being exposed to this mess for too long.

2. I somewhat agree. Fix the D first and then see what you have in the goalies. There is a chance that the current goalies could be at least passable.

3. I agree again. They need to work harder and smarter for things like their shooting percentages to get back to normal.

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#161 Derian Hatcher
December 03 2014, 11:22AM
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Robert "Walrus" Stauffer wrote:

I am a gutless apologist I am a gutless apologist I am a gutless apologist I am a gutless apologist I am a gutless apologist I am a gutless apologist I am a gutless apologist I am a gutless apologist I am a gutless apologist I am a gutless apologist I am a gutless apologist I am a gutless apologist I am a gutless apologist I am a gutless apologist I am a gutless apologist

That is all.

First let me say that I admire Stauffer as he has worked his way up from university Info Guy to his current gig (although I still dont know what happened with Morely Scott...) Anyways...There is no doubt that Bob has inside information but I think that is part of the problem. He is too close to the team to be objective and is constantly excusing this mess of a franchise. He has hinted many times that he could not coach but would look at managing (wonder if he could do better than MacT) His comments re: Andrew Ferance calling out his teamates were typical Ched Stauffer (as opposed to 1260 Stauffer). Stauffer criticized Ferance as a captain "should bring the team together". THIS IS NOT A TEAM, it is a bunch of entitled hockey players (save for a few like 23, 27) who are coasting their way through games and seasons. Stauffer constantly interupts those that disagree with him so he can tell all the listeners what is really going on. I wonder if he listens to his own show to see how slanted and apologetic he comes across. Bob loves to say things like "there are some bloggers and media in town who..." Hang on Stauffer, look at yourself first. Are YOU calling it like it is or are you simply an extention of the excuse-laden Oiler group who believe "this is part of the process" That said, I do enjoy most of his guests, but get rid of the previous night game calls - time filler and a complete waste!

there are so few media who will call it like it is in Edm....wonder why?

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#162 NewAgeSys
December 03 2014, 11:37AM
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THIS IS ONLY ANSWER!!

I'm getting into a detailed report of how the Oilers breakouts and stand the line defence should be. Its been sent to Winnipeg so Dallas can review it.

It's like this all 5 skaters stand still in the defence blue line and have active sticks and knock the luck away. Then use full body torso checks and plant the skater through the boards. This is called the active torso swinger play, Dallas needs to call it from the bench by waving 2 water bottles in the air like an airport runway guy. I'm saying too much here.

The breakout is a hard pass by whoever has the puck right up the middle to avoid board pressure then skate laterally through the neutral zone and horizontally into the offensive zone and using the back side winger defenceman as an option A with the centre winger as option B. Option C is the trailing puck carrier. He has the option of a swing play or just a routine regroup into the boards by the net. This way we get neutral pressure diverted by the trailing 3rd Dman on the boards by the blue dot. This will initiat all access to the middle left slot for an easy tap in backhand onetimer play. All the big western conference division teams use this play.

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#163 NewAgeSys
December 03 2014, 11:40AM
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After the opening puck drop the first offside winger needs to stop up hard at the blue dots further swinging right. If neutral zone forecheck swig play is an option he can move to the lateral side of centre and get deep, exposing the left defencemans short gap. This will allow for the centre to push the puck into the short zone by the glass, the other winger is an option for a stick exchange with the trailing Dman who should have the puck by now from the neutral winger, after this is established its a simple give and go and a pass and a shot with the rebound. 1-0 Oilers.

If the face off is lost then the full body torso check is needed immediately for the swing play. Then it's a D to D pass after the turnover by the stand up lateral play on the blue line. Then an icing is needed for the face off unit to create the turnover which is followed by a simple shot off the glass to the streaking far winger with speed and a drop pass with a neutral lateral regroup to the strong side winger.

It's all basic hockey and all the western eastern teams use it as a simple way to break out and forecheck to the strong post but on the weak side. If followed it should be 3-0 Oilers after 4 whistles on the right side.

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#164 Joe Mamma
December 03 2014, 11:48AM
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1. I don't. If I wanted to hear from an a-hole, I'd let one rip.

2. I don't blame it all on them. I doubt the test tube love child of Hasek, Roy, and Brodeur could post a sv% >.900 behind this buttery-soft collection of sucks.

3. I don't assume that. I'd love to add something to your argument Struds, but you nailed it right on the head. Here's some nice hyperbole that I'm sure ol' Metaphor Mouth Eakins would love.... No Guts, no glory.

This is also where the whole "the oilers are improving! Look at the Corsi!" argument falls on it's face. There is nothing differentiating between a muffin from the perimeter, and a hard nosed shot from the low slot or deflection in the paint. Good for the Oilers, they're managing to pad their CF% through gutless low percentage crap! Hooray for us! Until the "talent" on this team learns to grow a pair and get their nose dirty, they will continue to be a low scoring, impotent offence. No one is afraid of the vaunted Oiler offence. They want to compare themselves to a "skill team" like Chicago? Well when they came in here and tattooed us into the end boards, I saw a team driving the net, banging bodies, and generally working harder and and showing more guts. Chicago may have skill, but they've got balls too, and that's where the comparison falls flat. Bunch of spoiled brats and chickensh!ts, complemented by has-beens and never-was's is what we've got. Nuke it from orbit. Start over.

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#165 Wolverine_Oiler
December 03 2014, 11:54AM
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1. Could care less. When they do talk my ears hurt. They say the same thing over and over like the Energizer Bunny. Blah. If they had something new and insiteful, sure. But they never do, so go make the team better.

2. A bad team and a bad defense can only hide the true talent of the goaltenders so much. Both goaltenders were career back-ups. I admit that both were young in their careers, but their prior play on there former teams relegated them to the pine except for a handle of games a year. MacT took a chance on both, hoping one would grab the spotlight and solidify himself as a #1. Well, I think everyone can see after a short time that both have failed to seize glory and we have two #2 goalies on this team. Until we get a true #1, who can steal a few games, its a glaring area of weakness.

3. Never cared for shooting percentage as a stat. I'd love a guy on my team that has a 5-10% rate if he scores 20-30 goals. That just means he's shooting like crazy. Shooting like crazy leads to goals from the shooter or from a rebound poke. Oilers have been notoriously poor at shots per game over the last 10 years. More rubber please. Less passing.

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#166 Joe Mamma
December 03 2014, 12:07PM
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NewAgeSys wrote:

After the opening puck drop the first offside winger needs to stop up hard at the blue dots further swinging right. If neutral zone forecheck swig play is an option he can move to the lateral side of centre and get deep, exposing the left defencemans short gap. This will allow for the centre to push the puck into the short zone by the glass, the other winger is an option for a stick exchange with the trailing Dman who should have the puck by now from the neutral winger, after this is established its a simple give and go and a pass and a shot with the rebound. 1-0 Oilers.

If the face off is lost then the full body torso check is needed immediately for the swing play. Then it's a D to D pass after the turnover by the stand up lateral play on the blue line. Then an icing is needed for the face off unit to create the turnover which is followed by a simple shot off the glass to the streaking far winger with speed and a drop pass with a neutral lateral regroup to the strong side winger.

It's all basic hockey and all the western eastern teams use it as a simple way to break out and forecheck to the strong post but on the weak side. If followed it should be 3-0 Oilers after 4 whistles on the right side.

For the love of all that is holy.

Please.

Stop.

What do you even get out of posting these mountains of drivel day after day?

Take a hint. No one cares. No one believes your tripe. Everyone thinks you are certifiable. Seriously, like room-with-rubber-wallpaper type crazy. Elevator doesn't go all the way to the top. A couple sandwiches short of a picnic. Ridin' the rubber bicycle. Surfin' in Saskatchewan.

Go away.

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#167 NewAgeSys
December 03 2014, 12:15PM
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Joe Mamma wrote:

For the love of all that is holy.

Please.

Stop.

What do you even get out of posting these mountains of drivel day after day?

Take a hint. No one cares. No one believes your tripe. Everyone thinks you are certifiable. Seriously, like room-with-rubber-wallpaper type crazy. Elevator doesn't go all the way to the top. A couple sandwiches short of a picnic. Ridin' the rubber bicycle. Surfin' in Saskatchewan.

Go away.

THIS IS ONLY ANSWER!!

I'm getting into a detailed report of how the Oilers breakouts and stand the line defence should be. Its been sent to Winnipeg so Dallas can review it.

It's like this all 5 skaters stand still in the defence blue line and have active sticks and knock the luck away. Then use full body torso checks and plant the skater through the boards. This is called the active torso swinger play, Dallas needs to call it from the bench by waving 2 water bottles in the air like an airport runway guy. I'm saying too much here.

The breakout is a hard pass by whoever has the puck right up the middle to avoid board pressure then skate laterally through the neutral zone and horizontally into the offensive zone and using the back side winger defenceman as an option A with the centre winger as option B. Option C is the trailing puck carrier. He has the option of a swing play or just a routine regroup into the boards by the net. This way we get neutral pressure diverted by the trailing 3rd Dman on the boards by the blue dot. This will initiat all access to the middle left slot for an easy tap in backhand onetimer play. All the big western conference division teams use this play.

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#168 Derian Hatcher
December 03 2014, 12:19PM
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Joe Mamma wrote:

For the love of all that is holy.

Please.

Stop.

What do you even get out of posting these mountains of drivel day after day?

Take a hint. No one cares. No one believes your tripe. Everyone thinks you are certifiable. Seriously, like room-with-rubber-wallpaper type crazy. Elevator doesn't go all the way to the top. A couple sandwiches short of a picnic. Ridin' the rubber bicycle. Surfin' in Saskatchewan.

Go away.

Or....apply to the AJHL, WHL. ECHL, AHL, NHL, Somewhere where you can put your great hockey intelligence to use.

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#169 Joe Mamma
December 03 2014, 12:21PM
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NewAgeSys wrote:

THIS IS ONLY ANSWER!!

I'm getting into a detailed report of how the Oilers breakouts and stand the line defence should be. Its been sent to Winnipeg so Dallas can review it.

It's like this all 5 skaters stand still in the defence blue line and have active sticks and knock the luck away. Then use full body torso checks and plant the skater through the boards. This is called the active torso swinger play, Dallas needs to call it from the bench by waving 2 water bottles in the air like an airport runway guy. I'm saying too much here.

The breakout is a hard pass by whoever has the puck right up the middle to avoid board pressure then skate laterally through the neutral zone and horizontally into the offensive zone and using the back side winger defenceman as an option A with the centre winger as option B. Option C is the trailing puck carrier. He has the option of a swing play or just a routine regroup into the boards by the net. This way we get neutral pressure diverted by the trailing 3rd Dman on the boards by the blue dot. This will initiat all access to the middle left slot for an easy tap in backhand onetimer play. All the big western conference division teams use this play.

Truly, you are either one of the best trolls the internet has ever seen, or you actually believe the things you post here and it is time for someone to call the men in the white coats. Don't worry, they'll bring you an awesome new jacket! Lots of shiny buckles!

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#170 David S
December 03 2014, 12:28PM
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Joe Mamma wrote:

Truly, you are either one of the best trolls the internet has ever seen, or you actually believe the things you post here and it is time for someone to call the men in the white coats. Don't worry, they'll bring you an awesome new jacket! Lots of shiny buckles!

Dude you're getting suckered. Someone is mirroring NAS, who hasn't registered so you can see his name in blue.

It's New Age Sys-palooza around here right now. Trust no one.

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#171 Frank Rizza
December 03 2014, 12:42PM
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I don't want to hear anyone speak. The last time I heard the GMspeak, he was talking about Norris trophy potential for one of our #4 dmen. The last time I heard the owner talk, he was saying that he wanted to make us proud to be oiler fans. He has failed!

Goalie numbers have been horrible! The amount of "five star" scoring chances this team gives up is astonishing. I honestly think that if the best goalie in the history of the world was in our net, we might have 2 or 3 more wins. You can't win in the NHL if your team defence is this bad.

This is and has been the softest organization in the league for the better part of the last decade. How can we expect them to score gritty goals? Shooting percentage doesn't mean anything to me.

BTW I'm sitting in one of those medi centres in a Rexall pharmacy waiting to see a Dr for a throat infection. Once I get my prescription, it would be soooo convenient to simply walk 15 feet to the Rexall pharmacy, however I'm going to drive to shoppers drug mart to get the medicine and the list of things my wife asked me to get. I haven't stepped in to a Shoppers since I first heard that Mr Katz was buying the team. I wanted to support his businesses in Edmonton. Well, all of that is changing today! The only votes that count in this world are your dollars and I am choosing to spend $100 at shoppers today. Will it make a difference in the grand scheme of things? Nope, but I will feel better about where I've spent my money.

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#172 Andy7190
December 03 2014, 12:43PM
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NewAgeSys wrote:

After the opening puck drop the first offside winger needs to stop up hard at the blue dots further swinging right. If neutral zone forecheck swig play is an option he can move to the lateral side of centre and get deep, exposing the left defencemans short gap. This will allow for the centre to push the puck into the short zone by the glass, the other winger is an option for a stick exchange with the trailing Dman who should have the puck by now from the neutral winger, after this is established its a simple give and go and a pass and a shot with the rebound. 1-0 Oilers.

If the face off is lost then the full body torso check is needed immediately for the swing play. Then it's a D to D pass after the turnover by the stand up lateral play on the blue line. Then an icing is needed for the face off unit to create the turnover which is followed by a simple shot off the glass to the streaking far winger with speed and a drop pass with a neutral lateral regroup to the strong side winger.

It's all basic hockey and all the western eastern teams use it as a simple way to break out and forecheck to the strong post but on the weak side. If followed it should be 3-0 Oilers after 4 whistles on the right side.

I think you might have reality based issues.

But carry on. Who am I to spoil your illusion?

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#173 ubermiguel
December 03 2014, 12:51PM
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NewAgeSys wrote:

After the opening puck drop the first offside winger needs to stop up hard at the blue dots further swinging right. If neutral zone forecheck swig play is an option he can move to the lateral side of centre and get deep, exposing the left defencemans short gap. This will allow for the centre to push the puck into the short zone by the glass, the other winger is an option for a stick exchange with the trailing Dman who should have the puck by now from the neutral winger, after this is established its a simple give and go and a pass and a shot with the rebound. 1-0 Oilers.

If the face off is lost then the full body torso check is needed immediately for the swing play. Then it's a D to D pass after the turnover by the stand up lateral play on the blue line. Then an icing is needed for the face off unit to create the turnover which is followed by a simple shot off the glass to the streaking far winger with speed and a drop pass with a neutral lateral regroup to the strong side winger.

It's all basic hockey and all the western eastern teams use it as a simple way to break out and forecheck to the strong post but on the weak side. If followed it should be 3-0 Oilers after 4 whistles on the right side.

This is remarkably incoherent even for NewAgeSys. I suspect this a spoof.

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#174 Oilers21
December 03 2014, 12:59PM
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Why is anyone even responding to NewAgeSys? Just ignore him

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#175 Joe Mamma
December 03 2014, 01:01PM
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David S wrote:

Dude you're getting suckered. Someone is mirroring NAS, who hasn't registered so you can see his name in blue.

It's New Age Sys-palooza around here right now. Trust no one.

Hahaha, if that's the case that's actually an indictment on NAS, in that I genuinely couldn't tell the difference.

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#176 Mike Modano's Dog
December 03 2014, 01:11PM
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Dear Strudders,

1 - I DON'T want to hear from those guys. Sure, maybe at the end of the year I'd like to hear how they got the copious amount of egg on their face that is this season...but during the season I couldn't care less to hear from them. (It would be interesting to see McTavish's take on his pre-season prediction that the start of last season couldn't be duplicated...but that is another day!)

* More importantly, that shooter tutor... We had the exact same one growing up. I remember watching my brother shoot for the five hole from the back of the net... well the frozen tennis ball was a PERFECT shot - through the five hole, stretching the netting past what I had considered, giving me yet another bloody nose playing street hockey. Great memories!! :D

2 - Goaltending. It IS to blame. Is it all of the blame? No, of course not. But, we all (okay, they - I'm not in the NHL...) have to take accountability, but that does NOT make them immune to that blame. I'm not blaming them on a 2 on 1, or a blistering shot that Fuhr himself would have had trouble stopping, but easy, crappy goals often enough to bring the team down is on them. Even from an emotional point of view, as a former goalie - the easiest way to kill your team's psyche is to let in an easy goal, thereby making any of their hard work useless. Yes, for the Oilers that's not a lot of work that is made useless - but it still does have the same effect.

P.S. Fully agree on how badly the rest of the team has played defensively. Again, you have to stop EVERY PUCK that comes your way, whether it is 'fair' or not...whether it is a 2 on 1, or a 3 on 1 every five minutes. That is a different concern. You have one. Only one...stop the puck.

Until then, a goalie has nothing to say if he's not doing his job first and foremost. (just my two cents)

3 - I'm with you on analytics. I think it's ridiculous too. If a player has a sniper's touch - take Eberle in his first year...he is going to score that way all year. Likewise, a bad year, or confidence problems. Until you make changes, it is unlikely that the puck is going to go in. Playing minor hockey I remember I kept on missing the net high and wide - going for the top corners only. Once my coaches told me my loud shots going wide or hitting the glass, while looking impressive - were helping us none. Once I ate my pride, and just made sure I hit the net...it changed everything. But, I had to change my point of view first. (That was once upon a time, after my goaltending time had come to an end...and playing at a level below what I had become accustomed to. A great lesson in humility, where eating my pride resulted in helping the team go from worst to first that year!) :)

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#177 Jeffer
December 03 2014, 01:14PM
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Great article as usual...by far the best writer on here and my favorite radio host. I agree 100% with you so I won't answer the questions but I am curious to see what others think.

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#178 Goodkimchee
December 03 2014, 01:15PM
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1. I'd like an apology; an admission of, well, mistakes made.

I live on Vancouver Island, and I listen to a lot of the Team1040, and I have to say, the difference in coaching and managerial styles is remarkable. When Linden came in as President of Hockey Operations, he was humble, called everyone he could to get some advice, and suggested that patience and change came hand in hand. He offered hope. No strident voice of prophecy, no arrogance. Humility, quiet, pride. Benning comes in, he is who he is and says the same thing that Linden does: humble, a need for change, pride.

The thing with Lowe and MacTavish that really, really gets my goat is this arrogant pride, as in really, really arrogant, as "My sh*t smells way better than yours" hubris. Bold moves? I know how to build a team because I've won? No apologies, no quiet determination. Just...arrogance. I don't have any other word for it. And that is the most offensive thing as an Oilers fan.

Second, in the beginning, if there were problems on the Canucks, you know who spoke? Linden. Or Benning. Why? To draw attention away from the team, from the coach, let them focus on hockey and draw the ire and lense onto themselves. They take the shots for the team. Then when the hockey team is playing well, you know who speaks? The coach. The players. You hardly hear a peep from Linden and Benning.

How different is that from the Oilers, who have seemingly left Eakins out to dry in the media? "No, I'm too flipping important to answer the same question again and again," seem to be the thoughts from management. Just send Eakins out.

I'd like honest answers for - Why can't you just follow the Detroit model and let your prospects flipping develop? You did it with Eberle. Why can't you do it with Yakupov, Draisaitl, etc? Seriously. - Why are you so desperate to move out useful defencemen e.g. Petry? WTF. Who on the team is a better d-man? Honestly. - Why can't you admit you were wrong (Kevin) and shouldn't have let Renney go. Ugh. So frustrating...

But those are ancillary to my main frustration, and that's their arrogance built on what they did as players, not what they've done as management. You have not earned the right to be that cocky. And now you're sleeping in the bed you've made. Hope it's comfy.

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#179 Sheldon "Oilers Fan for Life!!!"
December 03 2014, 03:27PM
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1 - Why do you want Katz, MacT or Lowe to come out and speak? To be honest I am not sure I do yet at the same time I want someone with authority to fix this. I suspect that there are many attempts going on to fix this yet when every other team wants your gold in trade for beans it is hard to find a trade that actually helps the club. If I owned the team I would be frustrated but would want to allow the people whom I hired to do a job to do that job or why hire them in the first place. Inotherwords if Katz is coming to the mic someone's head is rolling. As far as MacT goes I suspect that big trade everyone wants were we get a top defender for soon out the door prospects is a bit hard to find.

2 - Why are the goalies blamed for so much of the lack of success for the Oilers? I really like Both of them and think that it has to be hard to come to a bottom ranked team and save it. Everyone wants a shutout every night and as far as I can see the goaltenders are getting hung out to dry very often. I have seen some soft goals but in at least Scrivens case he has been very willing to sholder the blame when he is at fault. By the same token he has been willing to give an honest evaluation of the team when they play poorly. I am not sold on Fasth yet but I feelmthere is no point trading a goalie until we get stronger on D.

3 - Why is it just assumed that Oilers scorers that are struggling to score will simply rebound to their "previous" shooting percentage of years past? Not sure they can or will. It seems to me that team work is far more important overall than havering one or two superstars. It always blows my mind to see a player play very well scoring a ton of goals only to be traded and then get half of the production. Chemistry is so important and by the same token you can get a player like Peron on the cheep because he seems to be only a defensive specialist and he suddenly explodes for a best year. I have often been surprised when a player who has found that perfect matching complementary player on a team and is just loving the whole NHL experience chooses to leave a team and go to a new one in free agency only to bomb. I think a trade is probably coming but the solution here is the team learning that the help they need is not elsewhere but already in the room. If a player is weak in some aspect of his game teach him work with him. If he is not willing to improve MacT will notice and someone new will come. I also think that as players learn to lead and how to motivate each other it will improve. At the same time some who had great years may never get back to that level but nothing is worse than trading a player because you think they have lost it only to have them end up at the next NHL AllStar game. In the end I feel as if these questions are not about you wanting t know what we think but a creative way to get us as fans to evaluate what we spout off about. I do this as a teacher all the time and often it works. Then again I also get students whom are never going to get it. Enjoy retirement Sir.

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#180 rnj
December 03 2014, 03:35PM
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@Gordie Wayne

"Struds 743, NewAge 1577"

Lmao what the hell is wrong with this newage guy. Is there a back story only some of the older members know? Was he burned in a terrible chemical accident and given the powers of irrelevant rambling?

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#181 rnj
December 03 2014, 03:41PM
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NewAgeSys wrote:

THIS IS ONLY ANSWER!!

I'm getting into a detailed report of how the Oilers breakouts and stand the line defence should be. Its been sent to Winnipeg so Dallas can review it.

It's like this all 5 skaters stand still in the defence blue line and have active sticks and knock the luck away. Then use full body torso checks and plant the skater through the boards. This is called the active torso swinger play, Dallas needs to call it from the bench by waving 2 water bottles in the air like an airport runway guy. I'm saying too much here.

The breakout is a hard pass by whoever has the puck right up the middle to avoid board pressure then skate laterally through the neutral zone and horizontally into the offensive zone and using the back side winger defenceman as an option A with the centre winger as option B. Option C is the trailing puck carrier. He has the option of a swing play or just a routine regroup into the boards by the net. This way we get neutral pressure diverted by the trailing 3rd Dman on the boards by the blue dot. This will initiat all access to the middle left slot for an easy tap in backhand onetimer play. All the big western conference division teams use this play.

Reminds me of how jeanshorts would type if he was impersonating NAS. Is it you js?

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#182 Danoilerfanincalgary
December 03 2014, 04:37PM
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Serious Gord wrote:

Jason you don't want our answers. You simply asked questions and the proceeded to give your answers/arguments before we have ours.

That said here are mine:

1. I don't really care if they make an appearance at a press conference. The only one I want to see is Nicholson or katz announcing Klowe has been fired. But the future POHO and GM would be wise to do monthly interviews with some of the local press - anthopolous of the jays does a very good job of it and it helps shape the narrative and build rapport with the fans.

2. I don't blame the goalies much. They are below average - as their former teams realized and I and others pointed out. I blame MacT for putting them in a position to fail especially with such a defensively awful team.

3. I don't know if I have ever posted anything about shooting percentages. It's just a very focussed stat that needs to always be put in context - as have with yak's above. It is a very small, sometimes irrelevant indicator of a players value.

In closing Jason I would note that all of your questions are accusing me/we of having an opinion that I do not hold and I suspect nor do many others.

Dear Mr repeat yourself over and over.

Can you ever and I mean ever make a comment without it ending in firing Kevin Lowe. It is like a broken record and it rings hollow and without merit. Like this organization needs to check in with you for approval get real. Fans like you ruin it for many others. Grow up you old weasel.

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#183 MorningOwl
December 03 2014, 05:02PM
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did mods delete a post by me?

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#184 hagar
December 03 2014, 05:41PM
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MorningOwl wrote:

did mods delete a post by me?

Who can tell? This thread is out of control with weird.

This oilers team is infecting the fans now. We are screwed.

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#185 Exoilinxs
December 03 2014, 06:02PM
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NewAgeSys wrote:

After the opening puck drop the first offside winger needs to stop up hard at the blue dots further swinging right. If neutral zone forecheck swig play is an option he can move to the lateral side of centre and get deep, exposing the left defencemans short gap. This will allow for the centre to push the puck into the short zone by the glass, the other winger is an option for a stick exchange with the trailing Dman who should have the puck by now from the neutral winger, after this is established its a simple give and go and a pass and a shot with the rebound. 1-0 Oilers.

If the face off is lost then the full body torso check is needed immediately for the swing play. Then it's a D to D pass after the turnover by the stand up lateral play on the blue line. Then an icing is needed for the face off unit to create the turnover which is followed by a simple shot off the glass to the streaking far winger with speed and a drop pass with a neutral lateral regroup to the strong side winger.

It's all basic hockey and all the western eastern teams use it as a simple way to break out and forecheck to the strong post but on the weak side. If followed it should be 3-0 Oilers after 4 whistles on the right side.

After the opening puck drop the first forward should float to nowhere land. The second man should disappear to shangri-la and float back to the dot and do nothing. The center should hold up in nowhereville float back to shangri-la and say WTF. If the puck goes deep the D should cross into each other taking each other out allowing the other team to have a 5 on nothing break. Fans should exit right and Katz go straight to the bat cave.

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#186 Sheldon "Oilers Fan for Life!!!"
December 03 2014, 06:39PM
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New age troll has 24 out of 185 posts with his name somewhere in The content. That is about 12.5 % he has to be from Vancouver as a fan from Calgary could would just repeat the we are in a playoff spot mantra.

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#187 OKC 'Red' Baron
December 03 2014, 07:23PM
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NewAgeSys wrote:

#1....I dont care to hear from K-Lowe from what I have seen over the years given what he is and has had to work with he has done Yoemans work,personally I cant stand his methods he doesnt admit when he has lost and plays dirty,has no reverse gear.Not my style,no open accountability.B.S personified,but nice to have on your side in a fight which is what he was hired to do and accomplished,fight for the future of the Franchise he was loyal to.No BS from NewAgeSys.

But I am afraid he has some 'splaining to do.

I know what kevin Lowe has to offer I watched his entire career from game one forward ,I dont believe he has been the right man since Nuge was Drafted because he refused to bring in an offensive minded GM with the visions needed to support the obvious wealth of offensive acumen those two represented since day one,throw in Yakupov and K-Lowe really became derelict in his refusal.

K-Lowe and the defensive juggernaught he had built were and are catalysed by a stats based perspective.This perspective was not balanced off to compensate for the incoming elite offensive players we drafted,there was no time to waver those.The young men needed what Krueger was able to slowly do for them,mentoring to their strengths, as bumpy as that process was it began to produce superior results which eventually caught the eye and interest of other NHL Teams ,this natural and fitting Gypsy evolution was interuppted intentionally and K-Lowe is responsible for that interruption in the Cores evolution.The defense must rest now so K-Lowe must either replace Mac-T or himself or bring in an offensive Guru because this Core needs some Professionl level offensive mentoring from people who know how to produce offense without giving up their defensive focus.Because Katz is not making any demands things remain the same and the results remain the same.

Stick with me now this IS STILL about Kevin Lowes defensive influences ,business tactics and their reach which he telegarphs down the line to his subordinates..

There are many POHos and GMs and Head Coaches who have produced Championship levels of offense and defense,they go hand in hand.Dallas was a one-dimensional defensive minded player and Coach coming into the relationship with the Oilers,he had a selling point they bought hook line and sinker,what it was is very important to know,but we do not have the official version of that.BUT we do have a clear Template of Dallases last 5 years of Coaching Hockey to look at and it is explicit and revealing and it illuminates Dallases evolution with 100% pinpoiont accuracy.Dallas as this record shows was a one-dimensional defensive minded Coach until 4 years ago when he began to make specific and chronological and sequenced changes to his philosophies and his tactics.The results produced by these changes are what Mac-T keyed in on.

These changes Dallas was making were originating from somewhere EXTERNAL to his normal sphere of inputs,these same types of changes were also in paralell action being made by NHL players and teams "beginnng" with the Oilers at the exact same time .The influences which caused Dallas to change his own Style BEFORE he was hired were being learned concurrently and implemented concurrently in the NHL,exactly as the common source taught them ALL to do.

Dallas veered from the directive of the common source which is not based on stats and their defensive set-play structure bat all and does not use them in ny impactfull way when he was still in the AHL ...he cheated and skipped steps of the "process" this new input represented so he could keep a dominant stats based defensive minded set-play structured influence in his processes,he needed to keep as much defensive perspective in his Wheelhouse as he could but he NEEDED to implement some very dynamic movements and concepts to duplicate the new tactics he ws learning,when Mac-T was presented with Dallases results from the previous 2 years he saw some of these NewAge philosophies concepts and results which he was trying to duplicate himself...he took the bait.

...bait because he didnt realise at the time where Dallas had gained his own acumen,or didnt ask,or did know and didnt forsee the future impacts,Mac-T may not have realised Dallases source of NewAge data that changed his style at the AHL level was exactly the same as Oilers players and Ralph Krueger were learning at the NHL level,ha ha ha .

Except for one critical fact,Dallas had "cheated" to the defensive set-play stats supported side by only following the parts of the original procceses he learned in the AHL which turned his fortunes,he only took what he liked,and this meant his particular methods of implementing these newAge tactics and philosophies and concepts was tailored to the League he was playing in and to his personal strengths,this meant the fine tuning was focused on a non-NHL game.

So two things happened,number one the "processes" Dallas created in an AHL incubator and mistakenly assumed would seamlessly transfer to the NHL level DID NOT TRANSFER.The reasons are many and to complicated to explain here with limited time and space.

Number two, other NHL Teams mostly Western Conference ones were ALREADY using the same data as Dallas was with the Marlies to build their very own NHL level functioning management programs which followed the original template or NewAge processes they shared as students with Dallas to the letter....which is what the NewAge "processes" were designed to do,optimise the NHL level Systems.

You can see the deep waters Dallas is in now without help from the data source to get his concepts to evolve from AHL adequate to NHL adequate,he is having troubles epic ones.Darkhorse was the placebo trying to use stats to replicate the NewAge influences before Dallas got here and Dellow was what Dallas hoped would crack the data for him.

He simply needs to come clean and get the data he needs mainlined to him ASAP....from the original source....heres the killer....Kevin Lowe and Maac-T have been trying to disenfranchise and fight off this exact same source of data for 4 years,they went to extremes to disenfranchise it,even becoming NHL leaders in Advanced Statistical Analysis to create this disenfranchising dynamic.

They tried to simply duplicate NewAge philosophies concepts and processes they refused to a knowledge,valuate,validate,respect or retain,then pushed the river by actively trying to disenfranchise it.....while they were trying desperately to reproduce it.

During this 4 year time-span the oilers Management were pushing the NHLs most cutting edge revolutionary ideas away from above while their own roster and head coach was trying to learn and implement it, 3 Stanley Cups were won by NHL Teams directly implementing these exact same NewAge evolutionary tactics,then Ralph Krueger and ALL players who could speak to this excluding the Core were run out of town ASAP.

If this story were true do you think the Core will give up their fight?They will leave Edmonton first before they let anyone discredit their very experiences ,mark my words.

These young men know what influences are driving the NHLs current and future evolution because THEY are the primary drivers of it.

You see Jason,everything is hypothetical,no one can speak with surety or fact to what the Oilers think or intend or have done or not done ,I am postulating here for entertainment purposes,I have no facts I am presenting here to support this in a concrete manner.

But Jason you might consider,hypotheticlly of course,that this story provides a baseline for EVERYTHING we see today happening to the Team in the room now with the rejection of Ference due to the pretenses of how and why he was brought in,as well as the last 4_ years of evolution ....we might also consider that this type of story would have to have 100% concrete statistical documented history,one which 100% fits the facts.

Hypotheticlly speaking Jason what if there was video of Pat Quinn implementing this exact same data when he worked for the Oilers,or what if Scotty Bowman had on the record officially endorsed something unofficially recognised and un-named?Or what if Sutter had also endorsed this same data,as well as mny other NHL Teams,and what if Jason there was a CONCRETE 1007 DOCUMENTED STATISTICAL history which can never be removed to prove this out????

I guess the answer to the 1st question is Yes I would like to hear Kevin Lowe speak but only if he were connected to a polygraph machine.Which is never going to happen,so I guess yes is really no now isnt it,huh?

Enough storyteling for one nightmare, I cannot imagine the repercussions if if 3 Stanley Cups had really been flushed down the toilet by dereliction of duty and personal vendettas cloaked as loyal team defense which intentionally rejected Hockeys very own NewAge cutting edge Philosophers Stone influence?

4 years after Halls draft this entire roster should be a direct reflection of the weaknesses the Core represent.The entire roster should be supportive of the Core by now bar none,but it is mess,this is NOT ON THE G.M....not when K-Lowe is influencing everything.

1b.I dont care to hear from Mac-T as he has not been fleeced in my opinion,he is as teflon as K-Lowe,I prefer not to her from anyone who will not be honest and forthcoming.

1c. I dont care to her from Katz,he is obviously hands off and doesnt cre to involve more thn his money,no problems we nerly lost the Team.

You lost me after # 1

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#188 cccsberg
December 04 2014, 08:15AM
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PeterTZ wrote:

1) I could care less about the management coming to the microphone. I want to hear D. Katz and B. Nicholson clearly state they've found a transition team to replace the current front office. Particularly a new GM that has a free reign to replace the scouting staff as needed and the coaching staff. Do it now, so we are ready for the off-season. Enough from MacT ad Lowe, empty and hollow blah blah.

2) The point of the spear so to speak. They are the last defence and as a result are the ones most keenly focused on. I believe that is incorrect. 1) the defence allows far too many odd man rushes (as a team) and excellent scoring chances. 2) Very poor clearing in front of the net and the D zone. All goalies let in the occasional soft one. You can find hall of famers with examples of that. This is about the team in front of the goalie not doing the jobs they should to help the goalie succeed.

3) Current style of play is shot totals. Doesn't matter if they are GOOD shots, just shots. No one drives the net, no one screens, when did you last see a tip in goal? Until #1 happens with a new coaching staff to teach these guys, scoring will continue to drop.

Exceptionally fine answer which I would agree with completely.

1. Enough with the excuses. We're going to start accountability at the top, with these changes....

2. These goalies were "great" last year before the Oilers because they played for great teams. Once the Oilers start doing their jobs effectively and consistently these goalies will 'suddenly' be playing much better. ...and if an occasional softie or blunder gets by them, GET OVER IT! Go out and score another to support your goalie and play as a team rather than accept that as an excuse for your own crap play.

3. The biggest and most important stat of all-time is WINS. Wins consist of scoring more than the opponent, which has two components: TEAM SCORING, and secondly TEAM DEFENCE. Perimeter low % shots, very poor defence, individualistic play and accepting poor results by pointing the finger at everybody else's deficiencies doesn't cut it.

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