Unacceptable

Jonathan Willis
February 01 2014 01:58PM

Without superhuman goaltending from Ben Scrivens (and he was just fine in today's loss) the Edmonton Oilers were on the wrong end of a 4-0 score against Boston. They were outshot, outchanced, somehow outhit despite never having the puck and flat-out out-played.

The Last Two Games

 

Edmonton has allowed 100 shots over its last two contests. They have matched up against the NHL's powers and been found not just wanting but humiliatingly, embarassingly unable to even put in a respectable showing. Team Switzerland has been more competitive in Olympic matches against Team Canada.

The scoring chances today paint an ugly picture of an outsmarted, outskilled and outworked team:

The Problems

 
The problems are myriad. Let's take a quick walk-through:

  • The powerplay. A strength as recently as a year ago - with much the same cast of players - it has devolved into a terrible weakness. Boston outchanced Edmonton 2-0 during Oilers powerplays today, and after a decent start to the night a first period power play sucked whatever energy the team had out of them. This one is on the coaching staff.
  • The Oilers had a top-10 penalty kill a year ago. This year, they sit 17th in the NHL, and they allowed two goals on five opportunities against the Bruins. The cast may even be improved from last season - this one too is on the coaches.
  • The top line. A year ago, the top line was an undisciplined run-and-gun trio that outshot and outchanced the opposition. This year, it's an undisciplined run-and-gun trio that gets badly outshot and outchanced by the opposition.
  • Sam Gagner. Just that.
  • The defence. This one is on the current general manager to some degree, and on the one before him to a much larger degree. A year ago, Nick Schultz and Justin Schultz were in over their heads as the Oilers' second pair. Currently, they're in over their heads as the Oilers' top pair. Andrew Ference and Jeff Petry have good points, but they're being asked to play at levels well beyond their ability to handle. Rookie Martin Marincin is in the top-four on merit. Mark Fraser is just the latest addition to a forgetable group of bottom-pairing blue liners that have demonstrated little beyond an ability to get lit up in the NHL.

Today's loss is yet another in a long series of humiliating low points for the Oilers. There is no excuse. It cannot be allowed to continue. This team desperately needs to turn things around, and soon. Maybe that means reworking the coaching staff so that new assistants can add some outside insight during an Olympic break reworking of team strategy - and provide better support for a rookie head coach. Maybe it means replacing Dallas Eakins with a veteran NHL bench boss.

Maybe it means more than that, or that and more than that. But this team cannot continue as-is. 

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Jonathan Willis is a freelance writer. He currently works for Oilers Nation, the Edmonton Journal and Bleacher Report. He's co-written three books and worked for myriad websites, including Grantland, ESPN, The Score, and Hockey Prospectus. He was previously the founder and managing editor of Copper & Blue.
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#51 TDSM31
February 01 2014, 04:23PM
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Otis Winchester the third wrote:

this makes allot of sense today............... We have a roster full of bonafide shooters ,it is the system that dictates who is and isnt a shooter,nothing else.Not the player or his abilitys. If the Oilers play the NewAge Hockey System or a variant this year we will see 45 shots per game over 82 games. The NewAge System spreads offensive accountability 100% across the board like no other system being played in the NHL today.The offensive shot decisions are ALL system dictated and the shot choices are also SYSTEM dictated,many responsibilitys are removed from the players focus,and his game speed is drasticly improved as is his execution of system requirements. If a player like Nail,who I have watched a lot of video on,is allowed to contribute to a system like the NewAge System his speed and instincts will if he works hard enough put him in CONSTANT position systemwise to be releaseing his shot,premier shot positions on a consistant basis.With this system and the Oilers talent it will literally be a matter of who works hardest gets the most goals,the opponent will have virtually nothing to say or do about this outcome,the system is THAT offensive and superior to the "hybrid system"being played by most NHL teams. I recognised the finish but we have at least three guys in that league,with a d-man who looks like a sniper as well in Schultz. Yakupovs sucess will depend on the system the coach chooses to use him in if he makes the team out of camp as we all seem to expect. I created the NewAge Hockey System for the Oilers specificly and presented it to them on-line last year,I read Mr.Kruegers comments related to the type of offense we might see being similar to the PP of the 80s Oilers,welcome to my world,my system is absolutely and completely based off of the Oilers PP execution dureing the 80s,i have converted the core values of that PP to a superior 5 on 5 hyper-offensive system unlike any ever seen before.It is unique ,and it is mine.LA used it last year as did our farm team,the Oilers started to implement it with about 25 games to go and had steady sucess. I posted extensively about my system on the Oilers website over a two year period,in an attempt to have it recognised and implemented,I believe I accomplished that,and along the way LA through Jarret Stoll and co. piggybacked the data from the Oilers site and implemented it,and the farm team also implemented my system data effectively,both LA and the farm team attained the expected results,and the Oilers were righting the ship at the end of the year believe it or not,you could feel it. Players like Nail work so very hard every time they hit the ice that they need to play in a system that allows this extra effort to be immediatly rewarded and consistantly rewarded,they need a system that rewards extra effort and individual efforts that are aggressive and offensive for 60 complete minutes.A system that drains them of offensive energy,not one that stifles it ,not even for 5 mins of a game. If Nail is on the second line consistantly he will push for the team goals lead and walk away with the Calder hands down,possibly by a record margin of points if he stays healthy for 82 games,I believe Sam Gagner is a natural fit with Nails vision and insincts,and because Sam looks to be anchoring the 2nd line their unavoidable chemistry will rear its head through many multiple point games for the two of them,if we see this dynamic for 82 games I peg Yakupov within the NewAge System to score 35 plus goals,if he finds a home on the PP maybe 40---and the 2nd line will propel us into the playoffs with those multi-point games.Remember this is a system specific prediction.If we play a hybrid system like we did most of last year,I say he will be a 20ish goal guy no matter what icetime he gets.i appreciate nails skillset and shot ect. but I still firmly believe that offensive sucess is catalysed by system induced opportunitys---so with an average system he will perform above average for a rookie,with a superior system he will perform above average on the NHL level. Just make sure you remember to not blame Sammy for shooting a lot this year with nail on his line if we use the NewAge System,because the shots will be system dictated not dictated by anyones greed.And there should be 45 per game to go around,and i love the math when I see nails conversion ability,he will get four shots per game average,so it should be interesting. If we play a hybrid system he will get less shots per game by a large margin,I see Nail useing his onetimer on the PP a lot and getting most of his goals from there which is why i pegged him in the 20s,but in the NewAge System he will be generateing his goals off 5 on 5 situations as well as the PP and he will have a constant stream of system induced shooting opportunitys which is why I pegged him at possibly 40 goals. Yes,he is a finisher,yes he has an invisible release,and yes he can score from absolutely everywhere,and yes he will fit in here and have a lot of great young teachers to help him out,like a third born he will talk-walk-and score goals faster because of his slightly older siblings like Hall-Gagner-Nuge-Ebbs ect. But lets remember that he is walking into a room full of high picks with a serious skillset depth---this may be the toughest test he has ever had,and certainly tougher than the fellas before him,he has to compete with the full deck of cards with hemsky-Nuge-Hall-Ebbs-Gagner-Schultz-MPS ect.I dont see there being that much pressure or expectations put on him,we dont exactly need a savior these days with all the young studs we have. As with all our players,as the system goes so goes the players statistical seasons.We can already count on one thing,Nail will be ready to put in the hard work needed to be a system asset,and the system wont matter in that regard,the rest is still unwritten history,and anyone who wants to can pick up the pen and start writeing,they just need the desire---I see a lot of that in this young man.

Haha....Gary Busey is back!!

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#52 Chris
February 01 2014, 04:26PM
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@Otis Winchester the third

I thought you were banned from here! Isn't it bad enough that the oilers are having a terrible year? Don't subject us to any more unnecessary suffering!

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#53 Wow
February 01 2014, 04:36PM
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What more can you say about Gagner?

The thing I would LOVE,LOVE,LOVE to hear is someone in the Media asking Eakins to explain how this 4.8 million dollar failure doesn't qualify for the "accountability" program.

You remember the one, Dallas...I believe the quote was: "Look, I don't care when you were drafted or what your contract is..."

Well,Dallas, please explain this to Oiler fans.

Just a guess, but I bet there are Oiler players who would love to hear the answer on this one,too.

Accountability? What a joke that is...

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#54 Stew
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Otis Winchester the third wrote:

this makes allot of sense today............... We have a roster full of bonafide shooters ,it is the system that dictates who is and isnt a shooter,nothing else.Not the player or his abilitys. If the Oilers play the NewAge Hockey System or a variant this year we will see 45 shots per game over 82 games. The NewAge System spreads offensive accountability 100% across the board like no other system being played in the NHL today.The offensive shot decisions are ALL system dictated and the shot choices are also SYSTEM dictated,many responsibilitys are removed from the players focus,and his game speed is drasticly improved as is his execution of system requirements. If a player like Nail,who I have watched a lot of video on,is allowed to contribute to a system like the NewAge System his speed and instincts will if he works hard enough put him in CONSTANT position systemwise to be releaseing his shot,premier shot positions on a consistant basis.With this system and the Oilers talent it will literally be a matter of who works hardest gets the most goals,the opponent will have virtually nothing to say or do about this outcome,the system is THAT offensive and superior to the "hybrid system"being played by most NHL teams. I recognised the finish but we have at least three guys in that league,with a d-man who looks like a sniper as well in Schultz. Yakupovs sucess will depend on the system the coach chooses to use him in if he makes the team out of camp as we all seem to expect. I created the NewAge Hockey System for the Oilers specificly and presented it to them on-line last year,I read Mr.Kruegers comments related to the type of offense we might see being similar to the PP of the 80s Oilers,welcome to my world,my system is absolutely and completely based off of the Oilers PP execution dureing the 80s,i have converted the core values of that PP to a superior 5 on 5 hyper-offensive system unlike any ever seen before.It is unique ,and it is mine.LA used it last year as did our farm team,the Oilers started to implement it with about 25 games to go and had steady sucess. I posted extensively about my system on the Oilers website over a two year period,in an attempt to have it recognised and implemented,I believe I accomplished that,and along the way LA through Jarret Stoll and co. piggybacked the data from the Oilers site and implemented it,and the farm team also implemented my system data effectively,both LA and the farm team attained the expected results,and the Oilers were righting the ship at the end of the year believe it or not,you could feel it. Players like Nail work so very hard every time they hit the ice that they need to play in a system that allows this extra effort to be immediatly rewarded and consistantly rewarded,they need a system that rewards extra effort and individual efforts that are aggressive and offensive for 60 complete minutes.A system that drains them of offensive energy,not one that stifles it ,not even for 5 mins of a game. If Nail is on the second line consistantly he will push for the team goals lead and walk away with the Calder hands down,possibly by a record margin of points if he stays healthy for 82 games,I believe Sam Gagner is a natural fit with Nails vision and insincts,and because Sam looks to be anchoring the 2nd line their unavoidable chemistry will rear its head through many multiple point games for the two of them,if we see this dynamic for 82 games I peg Yakupov within the NewAge System to score 35 plus goals,if he finds a home on the PP maybe 40---and the 2nd line will propel us into the playoffs with those multi-point games.Remember this is a system specific prediction.If we play a hybrid system like we did most of last year,I say he will be a 20ish goal guy no matter what icetime he gets.i appreciate nails skillset and shot ect. but I still firmly believe that offensive sucess is catalysed by system induced opportunitys---so with an average system he will perform above average for a rookie,with a superior system he will perform above average on the NHL level. Just make sure you remember to not blame Sammy for shooting a lot this year with nail on his line if we use the NewAge System,because the shots will be system dictated not dictated by anyones greed.And there should be 45 per game to go around,and i love the math when I see nails conversion ability,he will get four shots per game average,so it should be interesting. If we play a hybrid system he will get less shots per game by a large margin,I see Nail useing his onetimer on the PP a lot and getting most of his goals from there which is why i pegged him in the 20s,but in the NewAge System he will be generateing his goals off 5 on 5 situations as well as the PP and he will have a constant stream of system induced shooting opportunitys which is why I pegged him at possibly 40 goals. Yes,he is a finisher,yes he has an invisible release,and yes he can score from absolutely everywhere,and yes he will fit in here and have a lot of great young teachers to help him out,like a third born he will talk-walk-and score goals faster because of his slightly older siblings like Hall-Gagner-Nuge-Ebbs ect. But lets remember that he is walking into a room full of high picks with a serious skillset depth---this may be the toughest test he has ever had,and certainly tougher than the fellas before him,he has to compete with the full deck of cards with hemsky-Nuge-Hall-Ebbs-Gagner-Schultz-MPS ect.I dont see there being that much pressure or expectations put on him,we dont exactly need a savior these days with all the young studs we have. As with all our players,as the system goes so goes the players statistical seasons.We can already count on one thing,Nail will be ready to put in the hard work needed to be a system asset,and the system wont matter in that regard,the rest is still unwritten history,and anyone who wants to can pick up the pen and start writeing,they just need the desire---I see a lot of that in this young man.

"Newage System"??? Someone get this man a flock of seagulls cut and tell him to take his pills.

One of the most incoherent pieces of garbage I've read on here. The worst part is that this isn't a joke...

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#55 dougtheslug
February 01 2014, 04:41PM
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Ivan Drago wrote:

This is a flipping joke right?

It's a copy and paste from one of NewAgeSstem's many equally unreadable posts from last year. An attempt at comic relief, methinks, on such a depressing day.

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#56 @Oilanderp
February 01 2014, 04:49PM
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When a bad team plays a bad game against a great team that plays a good game, results like these occur.

No need for anyone to lose their minds over it, or make knee-jerk reactions.

The only thing to do right now is go over the "tape" and work on cutting those things out in practice over and over until they're gone. Practice and repeat until good habits are muscle memory.

Is just a game. Why you heff to be medd?

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#57 dougtheslug
February 01 2014, 04:53PM
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@Oilanderp wrote:

When a bad team plays a bad game against a great team that plays a good game, results like these occur.

No need for anyone to lose their minds over it, or make knee-jerk reactions.

The only thing to do right now is go over the "tape" and work on cutting those things out in practice over and over until they're gone. Practice and repeat until good habits are muscle memory.

Is just a game. Why you heff to be medd?

With all due respect, I think the problems with this team aren't going to be fixed by "practicing good habits".

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#58 S cottV
February 01 2014, 04:54PM
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It wasn't appropriate to be negative after Scrivens performance vs SJ, but now - geez - another game where it's just plain embarrassing.

I fully appreciate the magnitude of wanting to avoid replacing the Head Coach will all that has transpired in the past few years.

That being said - its to the point where it has become a necessity and any true hockey guy knows it and feels it in the gut.

There is not one element of play or even an intangible that you can point to and say that Eakins is achieving at - let alone over achieving at. Nothing you can point to and say - you know when this or that comes together, its gonna be great. Nothing...

The Boys on the Bus need to make one more move to see if there is a little magic left from the glory days. MacT - take the bench and bring Messier in as an Associate. See if you guys can give this group a Maurice like bump to restore some semblance of order to this mess.

If you can - maybe that's a sign.

If you can't - maybe it's a sign to move on - once and for all.

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#59 @Oilanderp
February 01 2014, 04:55PM
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@dougtheslug

Fine.

*goes to closet and unsheathes his pitchfork*

I stand ready to shout incoherently and light random fires!

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#60 Drowning in Oil
February 01 2014, 04:56PM
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Dear Dallas Eakins,

SQUARE PEG does not fit in ROUND HOLE. You are a horrible coach.

Sincerely, Any reasonable Oiler fan

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#61 billythebullet
February 01 2014, 04:56PM
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While this 4-0 drubbing was taking place I was at my sons novice hockey game. I tend to think that the 7-8 yr olds I watched today have more heart then the oilers.

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#62 @Oilanderp
February 01 2014, 04:58PM
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I used to think it was the DJ's fault, but now I am pretty convinced that it's the fault of the guy who buys the hockey tape. That tape is too slippery. Pucks just fly right off of it. FIRE THAT GUY RIGHT NOW!!!!

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#63 Drowning in Oil
February 01 2014, 05:01PM
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@Oilanderp wrote:

I used to think it was the DJ's fault, but now I am pretty convinced that it's the fault of the guy who buys the hockey tape. That tape is too slippery. Pucks just fly right off of it. FIRE THAT GUY RIGHT NOW!!!!

Have you noticed that the players skates don't seem to be tightened enough.

That's the guy to blame.

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#64 Spydyr
February 01 2014, 05:07PM
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Wow. even the stats guys think Gagner sucks now .They are only three years late getting on board with that one.

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#65 Spydyr
February 01 2014, 05:09PM
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To all the people who thought Eakins was the second coming of Scotty Bowman before he even coached a game in the NHL.How do you feel about that now?

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#66 Spydyr
February 01 2014, 05:10PM
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If they keep Eakins and allow him to pick his assistant coaches how many more ex- Marlies would the team have then?

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#67 otter2233
February 01 2014, 05:20PM
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Anyone else miss Ralph Krueger?

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#68 Spydyr
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otter2233 wrote:

Anyone else miss Ralph Krueger?

The special teams sure do.

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#69 hall the time
February 01 2014, 05:24PM
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Why was Jesse Jouensuu not playing but Jones and Hendrix were. In the San Jose and todays game Jones was one of the biggest problems we were stuck in our own end, sure he made some good plays to keep the puck out of the net but it was his fault we were in our own end in the first place among others, bad positioning.

And why bring in two new body's after the win over San Jose it was a game to work on from a coaching stand point, let just see if it works against Boston...... Bad Bad coaching. I never liked the power play at all this year and still don't.

The good.

The forwards are helping the D but not enough they need to pressure the puck carrier and us their stick a whole lot better that's were coaching comes in.

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#70 **
February 01 2014, 05:25PM
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those 3 in the picture are problems alright

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#71 Oiler63
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I always consider anything from the Leafs organization is a damaged good, but was willing to give Eakins the benefits of doubt. Turns out he proved anything from the Leafs organization IS damaged good. Lesson learned.

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#72 Ivan Drago
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Spydyr wrote:

If they keep Eakins and allow him to pick his assistant coaches how many more ex- Marlies would the team have then?

I don't generally agree with you very often, but on this one I do wholeheartedly.

First off I have believe MacT will improve this team, hes a rookie gm who has imo made more good moves then bad. However, do we even have a pro scouting staff, or does he just ask Eakins who to sign and trade for?

Second, enough excuses have been made for Gagner, he's a one trick pony. Puts up pts when playing with other good players, but brings NOTHING else to the table. Time to go snowpants.

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#73 Andrew
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You're preaching to the choir brother. You have certainly captured the essence of the problem. The Oilers have taken me beyond caring any longer. The emotional investment has been drained. This team as it is constructed is done like dinner. I don't think Mac has any intention of doing what really needs to be done. Nor do I believe he has the cajones for making fhe right moves. The top 6 can not continue to be the next generation of sacred cows. The Oilers organization is full of them.

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#74 Ryan2
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Wow wrote:

What more can you say about Gagner?

The thing I would LOVE,LOVE,LOVE to hear is someone in the Media asking Eakins to explain how this 4.8 million dollar failure doesn't qualify for the "accountability" program.

You remember the one, Dallas...I believe the quote was: "Look, I don't care when you were drafted or what your contract is..."

Well,Dallas, please explain this to Oiler fans.

Just a guess, but I bet there are Oiler players who would love to hear the answer on this one,too.

Accountability? What a joke that is...

As long as MacT is here he will not be benching Gagner..........

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#75 Rick Stroppel
February 01 2014, 05:56PM
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Ivan Drago wrote:

I don't generally agree with you very often, but on this one I do wholeheartedly.

First off I have believe MacT will improve this team, hes a rookie gm who has imo made more good moves then bad. However, do we even have a pro scouting staff, or does he just ask Eakins who to sign and trade for?

Second, enough excuses have been made for Gagner, he's a one trick pony. Puts up pts when playing with other good players, but brings NOTHING else to the table. Time to go snowpants.

ONE SIMPLE QUESTION

I just have one question and I REALLY hope someone can answer it for me:

IF MACTAVISH HAS MADE MORE GOOD MOVES THAN BAD MOVES, WHY IS THE TEAM IN SECOND LAST PLACE?

PS: MacTavish went back to work for the Oilers in the spring of 2012. He has only been GM for about 9 months but he has been "reconnected" with the organization for almost two years. This is the new "Oilers way": ignore incompetence and/or make excuses for it.

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#76 Rod from Viking
February 01 2014, 06:01PM
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Yakapov doesn't get a sniff on the power play or hardly any ice time, Gagner and Ference were horrible and I am so sick of seeing all the minutes Ryan Smyth is getting, he was good but now you have to line him up with a ad on the boards to tell if he was moving. I bet Scrivens can hardly wait to put ink on a new contract with this team.

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#77 **
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It was painful to see the team slowly falling apart as time went by. THey just gradually collapsed. To my eyes, aside from Gagner, everyone else seemd to keep trying hard, but they were just hitting a wall time and again. I comend Eakins for acknowledging he may be in trouble, but it is Mac Tavish who has to open his eyes and have an honest look at what's wrong. At the end of the day he is the only one who is going to be able to do something about it.

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#78 Ivan Drago
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Rick Stroppel wrote:

ONE SIMPLE QUESTION

I just have one question and I REALLY hope someone can answer it for me:

IF MACTAVISH HAS MADE MORE GOOD MOVES THAN BAD MOVES, WHY IS THE TEAM IN SECOND LAST PLACE?

PS: MacTavish went back to work for the Oilers in the spring of 2012. He has only been GM for about 9 months but he has been "reconnected" with the organization for almost two years. This is the new "Oilers way": ignore incompetence and/or make excuses for it.

Because MacT can't go back in time. He can't fix 7 yrs of losing with one off season, when the coming season had a salary cap going down. Hes made mistakes, we all do regardless of our profession. But Perron, Gordon, Ference are all solid additions. Eakins may have been a mistake. Signing Gags was another. Using the word Bold, was prob his biggest. MacT will improve as GM with time, like most of us do when gaining experience.

Let me ask this, what has MacT done or not done to show he is incapable of turning this around? I'd love to hear from all you armchair gm's who played Jr B and think they know it all.

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#79 David S
February 01 2014, 06:17PM
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@Ivan Drago

NewAgeSys is back!

*Punches computer screen*

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#80 hall the time
February 01 2014, 06:22PM
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I'm on MacT's side for now but this coaching thing is having me second guess him a lot.

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#81 **
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Ivan Drago wrote:

Because MacT can't go back in time. He can't fix 7 yrs of losing with one off season, when the coming season had a salary cap going down. Hes made mistakes, we all do regardless of our profession. But Perron, Gordon, Ference are all solid additions. Eakins may have been a mistake. Signing Gags was another. Using the word Bold, was prob his biggest. MacT will improve as GM with time, like most of us do when gaining experience.

Let me ask this, what has MacT done or not done to show he is incapable of turning this around? I'd love to hear from all you armchair gm's who played Jr B and think they know it all.

"Let me ask this, what has MacT done or not done to show he is incapable of turning this around? I'd love to hear from all you armchair gm's who played Jr B and think they know it all."

What if I told you I've never played ice hockey in my life. WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?????????????

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#82 kale
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Ivan Drago wrote:

Because MacT can't go back in time. He can't fix 7 yrs of losing with one off season, when the coming season had a salary cap going down. Hes made mistakes, we all do regardless of our profession. But Perron, Gordon, Ference are all solid additions. Eakins may have been a mistake. Signing Gags was another. Using the word Bold, was prob his biggest. MacT will improve as GM with time, like most of us do when gaining experience.

Let me ask this, what has MacT done or not done to show he is incapable of turning this around? I'd love to hear from all you armchair gm's who played Jr B and think they know it all.

Rick Stroppel

"Let me ask this, what has MacT done or not done to show he is incapable of turning this around? I'd love to hear from all you armchair gm's who played Jr B and think they know it all.

good point...he has moved us from drafting 6th overall to 2nd in a half a season

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#83 Rick Stroppel
February 01 2014, 06:33PM
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Ivan Drago wrote:

Because MacT can't go back in time. He can't fix 7 yrs of losing with one off season, when the coming season had a salary cap going down. Hes made mistakes, we all do regardless of our profession. But Perron, Gordon, Ference are all solid additions. Eakins may have been a mistake. Signing Gags was another. Using the word Bold, was prob his biggest. MacT will improve as GM with time, like most of us do when gaining experience.

Let me ask this, what has MacT done or not done to show he is incapable of turning this around? I'd love to hear from all you armchair gm's who played Jr B and think they know it all.

OK, I'LL BITE

What has MacTavish done to show he is NOT capable of turning this around:

1. Firing Kreuger and hiring Eakins on a whim.

2. Not replacing the assistants.

3. Grebeshkov.

4. Belov.

5. Further to 4 and 5, totally failing to provide the team with NHL quality defense.

6. Labarbera.

7. Bryzgalov.

8. Further to 6 and 7 (and keeping in mind that one great game does not make an NHL career) totally failing to provide the team with NHL quality goaltending.

9. Gagner contract.

10. Total clown show at the draft, resulting in no goalie prospects drafted.

11. Merrily trading away draft choices when the team is supposed to be rebuilding.

I am sure I missed some but I am tired.

PS : We are all "armchair GM's", and it is fun, that is why we read and write these posts!

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#84 cubsfan
February 01 2014, 06:36PM
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JW wrote,"Team Switzerland has been more competitive in Olympic matches against Team Canada."

Problem Solved!!!

Why doesnt MacT go out and hire the coach of Team Switzerland?

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#85 Serious Gord
February 01 2014, 06:38PM
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Ivan Drago wrote:

Because MacT can't go back in time. He can't fix 7 yrs of losing with one off season, when the coming season had a salary cap going down. Hes made mistakes, we all do regardless of our profession. But Perron, Gordon, Ference are all solid additions. Eakins may have been a mistake. Signing Gags was another. Using the word Bold, was prob his biggest. MacT will improve as GM with time, like most of us do when gaining experience.

Let me ask this, what has MacT done or not done to show he is incapable of turning this around? I'd love to hear from all you armchair gm's who played Jr B and think they know it all.

Perron, Ference and Gordon were decent signings - Ference I'm not so sure of long term. But none of those were stokes of genius or mastery of the GM position.

Gagner was a self centered move

Eakins was reckless

Hemsky was a case of over-valuation

Grebeshkov - too loyal

Belov - scout-free apparently he took the lead on getting him.

And on... He has failed so far as GM. And his only qualification over other - proven options. He's a FOK.

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#86 Dave
February 01 2014, 06:46PM
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Just thought of another KLowe quote: "When I won all those cups, I used to tell Slats that the key was to win at home. For all you second tier fans that don't understand the game, we beat San Jose. It's about the 2 pts, not beauty. And you can thank me because I told Craig to get Scrivens."

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#87 outdoorzguy
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"Without superhuman goaltending from Ben Scrivens (and he was just fine in today's loss) the Edmonton Oilers were on the wrong end of a 4-0 score against Boston. They were outshot, outchanced, somehow outhit despite never having the puck and flat-out out-played."

I bet Bryzgalov gets the next start. Thats how this team thinks. We saw one of the greatest goaltending performances ever,(think perfect game good!). Bryz should have been released after the Sharks game so Scrivens could ride the season out.

But ultimately it comes down to this;

We have crappy management.

We have crappy ownership.

We have crappy coaches.

Plain and simple.

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#88 Oliveoiler
February 01 2014, 07:04PM
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Accountability/commitment - players-none Accountability/commitment - head coach-none Accountability/commitment - asst coaches-none Accountability/commitment - goalie coach-none Accountability/commitment - scouts-none "why should we have accountability/commitment when we pick up our pay cheques regardless?"

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. Gagner gross, Hemsky hopeless, Ferrance finished, Schultz x 2 shabby, Petry pathetic, Hall horrible,,,,,,,,,,,,,, the list goes on and on and on and on........... only bright light is #30 - so lets see how long he sticks around with this crowd.

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#89 Doctor Smashy
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For some reason I had never bothered to look. Eakins coached the Marlies for 4 years. 2 years out of the playoffs, then lost in the final, then lost in the second round. Career AHL record - 157 - 114. That is 48 - 34 over an 82 games schedule. MacT wet his pants over that?!

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#90 Max
February 01 2014, 07:10PM
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We all know K Lowe wont admit his part in all of this, nor will he step aside. It would not hurt if the GM would admit he was wrong regarding the head coach and let him go. Laviolette, Crawford and others are out there waiting to whip this team into shape. Boot camp for the Oilers should be next on the list.

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#91 He Who Knows
February 01 2014, 07:10PM
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Look at Columbus. Look at us. Fire Lowe just heated up again.

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I think that I should be the new gm, I only snorted a little bit of blow, Craig got drunk as a skunk and killed a guy . No more ex cons in the front office.

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#93 oilsnc79
February 01 2014, 07:25PM
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Mac T capable, Eakins capable, Being from Ont. I have watched Marlies and he did well. Bucky & Smith - not impressed. Lowe- your call. I have been an oil snc 79 and haven't seen this as bad. Problem ... Katz ... Lowe offered resignation ,, refused!! MacT ... hands tied. New Reality .. get use to it. I appologise for the truth.

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#94 Chambers
February 01 2014, 07:28PM
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Rick Stroppel wrote:

OK, I'LL BITE

What has MacTavish done to show he is NOT capable of turning this around:

1. Firing Kreuger and hiring Eakins on a whim.

2. Not replacing the assistants.

3. Grebeshkov.

4. Belov.

5. Further to 4 and 5, totally failing to provide the team with NHL quality defense.

6. Labarbera.

7. Bryzgalov.

8. Further to 6 and 7 (and keeping in mind that one great game does not make an NHL career) totally failing to provide the team with NHL quality goaltending.

9. Gagner contract.

10. Total clown show at the draft, resulting in no goalie prospects drafted.

11. Merrily trading away draft choices when the team is supposed to be rebuilding.

I am sure I missed some but I am tired.

PS : We are all "armchair GM's", and it is fun, that is why we read and write these posts!

Excellent post!!!

6 Rings + Rookie GM + Rookie coach = 29th place.

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#95 Rod from Viking
February 01 2014, 07:35PM
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Grant fuhr wrote:

I think that I should be the new gm, I only snorted a little bit of blow, Craig got drunk as a skunk and killed a guy . No more ex cons in the front office.

I really do not like the reference to the vehicular homicide, Craig made a mistake that a lot of people made back then by drinking and driving and he is still paying for it. Make sure you don't text and drive or the same could happen to you. Lets keep personal attacks out of this site.

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#96 Gk1980
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Anyone notice ebrrles poor play recently? He is BRUTAL to the point I think he is sabatoging this team. WAAAAAY to many moves before a shot attempt. The guy just needs to shoot the damn luck. The oilers Achilles heal is their lack of producing any sort of consistent offensive pressure. They also looked lost out there, like they have no systems going whatsoever.

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Bruce McCurdy, in "Cult of Hockey" wrote (in his evaluation of todays game)....

"#89 Sam Gagner, 2 (out of 10). He kept catching my eye in a bad way. Last guy back over his own blueline time and again, taking bad routes to the puck, doing flybys instead of skating through the man. Those bad habits caught up with him twice and he’s got a nice shiny -2 to prove it. First on that wraparound goal, when any sort of aggressive stand against Hamilton on the far side of the net might have got the job done; instead, it was 89, and the puck was in the net. This on a sequence that began with a weak clearance by Gagner into the neutral zone that had the Bruins re-engaging with speed. Minutes later, he was the last guy floating back over his own blueline when a stray puck went right through the middle (a.k.a. “centre”) of the zone to the goal scorer. Was also one of the defensive culprits on the disallowed goal, losing his man in front and stranding himself in the middle of nowhere. Despite playing hardly at all against Boston’s defensive ace Chara, he did little enough with the disc on his blade, getting one half-chance in the third but on the continuation failing to shoot, pass or stickhandle and being dispossessed of the puck. Later had a brutal turnover right in the middle of his own slot. Engaged in one good d-zone sequence early in the third when his line got owned all the same, and a couple of OK o-zone moments when separated from his usual linemates. About this >

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Ivan Drago wrote:

Because MacT can't go back in time. He can't fix 7 yrs of losing with one off season, when the coming season had a salary cap going down. Hes made mistakes, we all do regardless of our profession. But Perron, Gordon, Ference are all solid additions. Eakins may have been a mistake. Signing Gags was another. Using the word Bold, was prob his biggest. MacT will improve as GM with time, like most of us do when gaining experience.

Let me ask this, what has MacT done or not done to show he is incapable of turning this around? I'd love to hear from all you armchair gm's who played Jr B and think they know it all.

He signed Grebeshkov. No one other then him expected that to work.

Whats wrong with Jr B? I am guessing you never played? House league perhaps?

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#99 Rick Stroppel
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Grant fuhr wrote:

I think that I should be the new gm, I only snorted a little bit of blow, Craig got drunk as a skunk and killed a guy . No more ex cons in the front office.

THIS IS A LOW BLOW

FYI, the victim in MacTavish's case was a woman. He paid the price. He got a three year sentence (about what he would he would have got in Canada) and spent a year behind bars (ditto).

This is TOTALLY IRRELEVANT to a hockey discussion. A wise person once said "a man is more than the worst thing he ever did". MacTavish has moved on, so should everyone else.

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#100 Alsker
February 01 2014, 07:56PM
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@dougtheslug

Don't worry about snowpants, Eakins+MacT have it all worked out. When things go bad do the following:

1) Bench Yak

2) Put on line with Hall + Ebs

3) Extra PP time

4) Blame a russian in post-game

So fear not our MVP will be just fine....LMAO

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