Unacceptable

Jonathan Willis
February 01 2014 01:58PM

Without superhuman goaltending from Ben Scrivens (and he was just fine in today's loss) the Edmonton Oilers were on the wrong end of a 4-0 score against Boston. They were outshot, outchanced, somehow outhit despite never having the puck and flat-out out-played.

The Last Two Games

 

Edmonton has allowed 100 shots over its last two contests. They have matched up against the NHL's powers and been found not just wanting but humiliatingly, embarassingly unable to even put in a respectable showing. Team Switzerland has been more competitive in Olympic matches against Team Canada.

The scoring chances today paint an ugly picture of an outsmarted, outskilled and outworked team:

The Problems

 
The problems are myriad. Let's take a quick walk-through:

  • The powerplay. A strength as recently as a year ago - with much the same cast of players - it has devolved into a terrible weakness. Boston outchanced Edmonton 2-0 during Oilers powerplays today, and after a decent start to the night a first period power play sucked whatever energy the team had out of them. This one is on the coaching staff.
  • The Oilers had a top-10 penalty kill a year ago. This year, they sit 17th in the NHL, and they allowed two goals on five opportunities against the Bruins. The cast may even be improved from last season - this one too is on the coaches.
  • The top line. A year ago, the top line was an undisciplined run-and-gun trio that outshot and outchanced the opposition. This year, it's an undisciplined run-and-gun trio that gets badly outshot and outchanced by the opposition.
  • Sam Gagner. Just that.
  • The defence. This one is on the current general manager to some degree, and on the one before him to a much larger degree. A year ago, Nick Schultz and Justin Schultz were in over their heads as the Oilers' second pair. Currently, they're in over their heads as the Oilers' top pair. Andrew Ference and Jeff Petry have good points, but they're being asked to play at levels well beyond their ability to handle. Rookie Martin Marincin is in the top-four on merit. Mark Fraser is just the latest addition to a forgetable group of bottom-pairing blue liners that have demonstrated little beyond an ability to get lit up in the NHL.

Today's loss is yet another in a long series of humiliating low points for the Oilers. There is no excuse. It cannot be allowed to continue. This team desperately needs to turn things around, and soon. Maybe that means reworking the coaching staff so that new assistants can add some outside insight during an Olympic break reworking of team strategy - and provide better support for a rookie head coach. Maybe it means replacing Dallas Eakins with a veteran NHL bench boss.

Maybe it means more than that, or that and more than that. But this team cannot continue as-is. 

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Jonathan Willis is a freelance writer. He currently works for Oilers Nation, the Edmonton Journal and Bleacher Report. He's co-written three books and worked for myriad websites, including Grantland, ESPN, The Score, and Hockey Prospectus. He was previously the founder and managing editor of Copper & Blue.
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#101 madjam
February 01 2014, 11:04PM
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admiralmark wrote:

Oh look it's the annual "Lets get rid of the coach" group out in full force. If these guys had it their way we would fire the coach twice each season.

Here's a thought.. OILERS DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TALENT! Mull it over a bit maybe it will sink in where the problem truly lies? But i doubt it.

And who is responsible for that talent ? Not the players , and the coaching is not doing a stellar job with the talent we do have . Coaching is also a problem , yet you don't see it obviously .

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#102 Fresh Mess
February 01 2014, 02:25PM
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I'm guessing we'll be seeing head coach Messier before too long.

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#103 Rick Stroppel
February 01 2014, 02:44PM
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SERIOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT GAGNER

I honestly don't know the answers to these questions. Is his NTC reduced to writing in his contract? Does the NTC remain in effect for the last two years of his contract if he is traded? If so, he is basically untradeable. A team looking at the long term will simply wait for the summer hoping to get him on the cheap after a compliance buy-out. A team looking for short-term help will not want any part of that contract with a NTC.

Can the Oilers trade him and agree to pay part of his contract? Does this count against the cap?

Sorry about the silly questions and thanks for the answers.

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#104 **
February 01 2014, 06:07PM
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It was painful to see the team slowly falling apart as time went by. THey just gradually collapsed. To my eyes, aside from Gagner, everyone else seemd to keep trying hard, but they were just hitting a wall time and again. I comend Eakins for acknowledging he may be in trouble, but it is Mac Tavish who has to open his eyes and have an honest look at what's wrong. At the end of the day he is the only one who is going to be able to do something about it.

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#105 Oilerz4life
February 02 2014, 12:12AM
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Fire Lowe.

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#106 Loweblows
February 02 2014, 09:32AM
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Overheard during the last practice: Eakins: OK guys we are going to work on the power play today. See the X not covering O. X has to swarm the O. O should slide over to X. This X should move to this O. Rookie: Coach am I the X or the O. Eakins: Let me check. Hey Kelly are we the X or the O. Kelly: We'll last year Kreuger drew us as the O. Eakins: We'll that explains it. All along I thought we were the X. I've got a great idea. Let's make us a Z that way there will be no confusion. MacT: This man is a genius!

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#107 @Oilanderp
February 01 2014, 04:49PM
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When a bad team plays a bad game against a great team that plays a good game, results like these occur.

No need for anyone to lose their minds over it, or make knee-jerk reactions.

The only thing to do right now is go over the "tape" and work on cutting those things out in practice over and over until they're gone. Practice and repeat until good habits are muscle memory.

Is just a game. Why you heff to be medd?

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#108 Doctor Smashy
February 01 2014, 07:04PM
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For some reason I had never bothered to look. Eakins coached the Marlies for 4 years. 2 years out of the playoffs, then lost in the final, then lost in the second round. Career AHL record - 157 - 114. That is 48 - 34 over an 82 games schedule. MacT wet his pants over that?!

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#109 He Who Knows
February 01 2014, 07:10PM
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Look at Columbus. Look at us. Fire Lowe just heated up again.

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#110 camdog
February 02 2014, 08:51AM
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Chambers wrote:

How about those FLAMES!! Zero talent yet they have a 5 games win streak the longest in the NHL this season. They play with big heart and desire and work there ass off every shift.

Oh well Oiller fans enjoy watching 17 year old Ekblad develop and the Flamers instead will play for winning culture rather than draft position.

Yes the Flames have a 5 game win streak, however they don't have the longest win streak in the NHL this season.

As to Ekblad I expect the Flames to win the draft lottery and jump E-town in draft order. I then expect Burke to draft Ekblad just to piss Lowe off.

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#111 Primo
February 02 2014, 09:04AM
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@camdog

Just going by the win streak facts provided by HNIC. I like your optimism about the Flames drafting Ekblad which is actually my preference as the next 2 years of drafting are critical for Flames.

Unfortunately the trend in Calgary shows winning and 2 teams going in opposite directions. I'll let you decide which team is which.

As far as the Burke and Lowe feud is concerned I will rely on Burkes managerial hockey knowledge (no 6 rings as a player) and trade savvy to rebuild the Flames quickly without any vision of the Oiler disaster of the last 7 years.

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#112 Ivan Drago
February 01 2014, 06:09PM
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Rick Stroppel wrote:

ONE SIMPLE QUESTION

I just have one question and I REALLY hope someone can answer it for me:

IF MACTAVISH HAS MADE MORE GOOD MOVES THAN BAD MOVES, WHY IS THE TEAM IN SECOND LAST PLACE?

PS: MacTavish went back to work for the Oilers in the spring of 2012. He has only been GM for about 9 months but he has been "reconnected" with the organization for almost two years. This is the new "Oilers way": ignore incompetence and/or make excuses for it.

Because MacT can't go back in time. He can't fix 7 yrs of losing with one off season, when the coming season had a salary cap going down. Hes made mistakes, we all do regardless of our profession. But Perron, Gordon, Ference are all solid additions. Eakins may have been a mistake. Signing Gags was another. Using the word Bold, was prob his biggest. MacT will improve as GM with time, like most of us do when gaining experience.

Let me ask this, what has MacT done or not done to show he is incapable of turning this around? I'd love to hear from all you armchair gm's who played Jr B and think they know it all.

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#113 vetinari
February 02 2014, 10:31AM
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Spanked. In every facet of the game. The 2013-14 Oilers are a step back in almost every area. The kids were suppose to get another year of maturity and strength under their belts and they look more lost than ever before. The defence, on a good night looks slightly better than AHL quality and on a bad night, looks ECHL level. And the offence was suppose to be to our meal ticket this year and we get shut out more than ever.

And good luck in convincing Scrivens to sign here because he's going to get shelled EVERY night and with how he's been playing, he can punch his ticket anywhere come July. I hate to raise this but if we can't get Scrivens signed to an extension by the trade deadline, would it be worth putting him back on the market to recoup a pick or a player?

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#114 Manfly
February 01 2014, 03:08PM
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Jordan Nugent-Hallkins wrote:

By the sounds of it, missing this game was a very, very good thing.

i picked up the game in the middle of the 2nd period when it was 1-0 Boston and said to myself...."i guess i didn't miss much". looks like i didn't. same old same old. but i was expecting this to happen, the win streak can't last forever and they will eventually fall back on the suck again. Eakins should stay, but for the love of God, please don't tell Eakins next year he has to work with Smith and Bucky on the bench again! let him hire the rest of the coaching staff HE wants!

and MacT is really on the hot seat this summer. he MUST find as close to a #1 d-man that he can, as well as better bottom end d-men. he also MUST find some size and grit that can actually play NHL hockey, but i realize he may not find all these things in just one summer. the heat is really on this guy starting at the trade deadline!

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#115 Oilcruzer
February 01 2014, 03:45PM
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In other news...

Vancouver has won 3 of its last 10. One win over a playoff team in last 18.

This year for the Oil is awful, so I guess there's always Schadenfreude.

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#116 Bonvie
February 01 2014, 03:49PM
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hark65 wrote:

Yak is part of the "defence sucks" problem. Doesn't have a clue where his own end is or what to do when he get in it.

Exactly same with Hemsky zero back checking pressure by these wingers just let guys stroll into the offensive zone without putting pressure on them. Yak lets Hamilton stroll by on the goal he scored, it all started out by the blue line a bit of back check and pressure to take away time and space would have made all the difference instead Hamilton strolls down into the Oilers zone like hes playing in a rec game.

Exact same thing observed by Hemsky on i believe it was the 3rd goal at the blue line the puck carrier skates right by Hemsky without any effort from him to battle for the puck or play physical.

This is a very stark difference between Boston who took away time and space from our Offensive players all game long, and made quality scoring chances so scarce to come by.

I wonder about those who have to ask why Yak may have been benched. I have seen better back checking pressure in celebrity charity games.

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#117 Chambers
February 01 2014, 07:28PM
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Rick Stroppel wrote:

OK, I'LL BITE

What has MacTavish done to show he is NOT capable of turning this around:

1. Firing Kreuger and hiring Eakins on a whim.

2. Not replacing the assistants.

3. Grebeshkov.

4. Belov.

5. Further to 4 and 5, totally failing to provide the team with NHL quality defense.

6. Labarbera.

7. Bryzgalov.

8. Further to 6 and 7 (and keeping in mind that one great game does not make an NHL career) totally failing to provide the team with NHL quality goaltending.

9. Gagner contract.

10. Total clown show at the draft, resulting in no goalie prospects drafted.

11. Merrily trading away draft choices when the team is supposed to be rebuilding.

I am sure I missed some but I am tired.

PS : We are all "armchair GM's", and it is fun, that is why we read and write these posts!

Excellent post!!!

6 Rings + Rookie GM + Rookie coach = 29th place.

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#118 johnjohn
February 01 2014, 09:59PM
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K_Mart wrote:

I can't believe I'm saying this... But it's coaching. What system are they playing?!?!

They're playing the Flying V offence and the TieThemUp in Our End (and tire them out) defence

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#119 Mars
February 02 2014, 01:09AM
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Thank you PVR, it only takes 15 mins to watch an Oiler game these days. Hire a minor league coach, get a minor league team, because the old oilers beside Eakins(buckburgerb and smith) are obviously just there to collect a check. And WHY would you hire a guy who scored the most infamous goal in oiler history, your just asking for bad luck. Kevin Lowe, Kelly buckburger and especially Steve Smith, need to do the right thing and just go home and enjoy hockey from their couches.

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#120 Spydyr
February 02 2014, 06:27AM
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Who else here wishes, Gary Gregg would have brought the team. Instead of falling for false promises.

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#121 Lower than lowe
February 02 2014, 09:50AM
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As a lifelong fan why do I want my team to lose every game? Odd.

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#122 michael
February 02 2014, 10:08AM
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Oh my. The axe's are out today after a loss. Who'd have thunk that? The Bus is once again a little lighter today.

As a note L.A Kings losers of 8/9. Can't score for the life of them. Couldn't score into an ocean. And its right there.

JW when was the last time the Oilers won a game in Boston? 10 years ago/ Its been a long time with many players passing through since then. It is the same in MINNY. Dallas same thing.

So if your going to rant about our play in Boston wrap some perspective around it.

The Oilers wish they had 3 centers of Bergeron Kriji and Kelly.I wish I had a 6'9 defenceman who annually is a Norris Trophy candidate. Yup we have a Milan Lucic.Not. Were so far away from competing with the big boys its not even close.

SJ,ANA,CHI and St Louis are in another league as far as were concerned.Its not even close. Sure we needed superhuman goaltending this week to win against SJ. But often has that been the case.

MacT needs time to repair this trainwreck. You gave Mr Dithers 4 years. Heck can you give MacT even one?MacT isn't the Wizard of Oz. Abracadabra! Look over there at the blinky lights. 4 years of dithering and wallowing in self pity cost this team.MacT is atleast trying to find the pieces needed for this team. Sure some have not fit. But some you can argue have done well.As of today would you rather have MP or DP. EB or BG?

Eakins is not my choice. I won't be standing up for him anytime soon. He has made a whack of mistakes. I would be happy with someone with experience. PaulMaurice. Too bad. Duane Sutter.Oh well. We got Eakins.ts like the kid who sold the cow for 3 magic beans. But in our case the beans are beans.We were sold a story regarding Eakin's. And well, beans are beans.

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#123 Oasis
February 02 2014, 10:26AM
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Well, I thought I would check in and see if all the Kool-Aid drinkers had sobered up from the big 2 game win streak. I would think watching your team get totally dominated and manhandled back/back should sober up even the most delusional Oiler fan who thinks this team is built to win.

This team has problems....so many problems. This whole organization is rotten from the top down and things wont change much around here until they clean house and the entire management is changed. A couple of good games here and there will not change that. Sure the team will eventually improve as it piles up first overall draft picks left, right and centre, but you seriously have to question the people who have built this team and orchestrated this rebuild.

This is why no matter how many games the Oilers win, some of us will continue to demand that Lowe is fired and for real change to take place. Every time the Oilers win a game or two everybody jumps back on the "things are going as planned train" and Kevin Lowe lives another day.

When will Oiler fans stand up and say "Enough is Enough"?. If you want real change, it starts at the top of this "Scrotum Pole". If you want what you have got for the past 8 years +, then stick with what you have.

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#124 Ryan2
February 01 2014, 05:31PM
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Wow wrote:

What more can you say about Gagner?

The thing I would LOVE,LOVE,LOVE to hear is someone in the Media asking Eakins to explain how this 4.8 million dollar failure doesn't qualify for the "accountability" program.

You remember the one, Dallas...I believe the quote was: "Look, I don't care when you were drafted or what your contract is..."

Well,Dallas, please explain this to Oiler fans.

Just a guess, but I bet there are Oiler players who would love to hear the answer on this one,too.

Accountability? What a joke that is...

As long as MacT is here he will not be benching Gagner..........

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#125 admiralmark
February 01 2014, 10:56PM
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Oh look it's the annual "Lets get rid of the coach" group out in full force. If these guys had it their way we would fire the coach twice each season.

Here's a thought.. OILERS DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TALENT! Mull it over a bit maybe it will sink in where the problem truly lies? But i doubt it.

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#126 outdoorzguy
February 02 2014, 07:02AM
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My earlier post was edited. Points were added in that I did not write. Does JW do this? Any of the other writers? Perhaps an editor? This is unacceptable. I have now lost confidence in this site as I now must question the authenticity of any posting placed here. Like the Oilers, this site has now become a sham!

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#127 Spydyr
February 02 2014, 12:08PM
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Butters wrote:

What happens if/when we trade Gagner and the Oilers still suck? Who do we run our of town next?

The next player not cutting it.

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#128 Dan 1919
February 01 2014, 02:58PM
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@Rick Stroppel

NTC kicks in this summer, so if they dealt him now, starting this summer, the team that has him can’t trade him without his permission for 2 years.

Someone would still take him, just as they would Ebs, but we would only get for them what they are worth. Something most Oiler fans can’t seem to realize.

Your point is exactly valid, there’s a reason we’ve been terrible for so long, terrible D and overvaluing guys like Ebs and Gagner. They’re both overvalued and signed long term now, we’d only get peanuts for them because we’ve overvalued them and hung on too long.

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#129 master of my domain
February 01 2014, 03:31PM
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I think the problem is pretty obvious, Eakins has never won a cup with the Oilers in the 80's, how can he know anything about winning.

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#130 Serious Gord
February 01 2014, 03:47PM
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gcw_rocks wrote:

So, to summarize,

The powerplay is on the coaches signed or retained by MacT.

The penalty kill is on the coaches signed or retained by MacT.

The fall off of the top line would seem to be coaching as well. Nothing else had changed. So,on the coaches signed or retained by MacT.

Gagner. MacT passed up the chance to sell high on Gagner this summer to fill a hole on defence because of his man crush Gagner. And he gave a verbal no trade that Gagner is not entitled to under the CBA.

I think you are being to kind on MacT for the defense. Hainsey went the whole summer without a contract. So did Gilbert. Even signing one of those two would have been a huge improvement. MacT gambled on a whole series of long shots rather than placing some safe bets. That's on him. Imagine what this defence would be like if Marincin hadn't been ready. By all rights, he shouldn't be.

So, there is a common thread to the failure. MacT.

All the MacT fans out there are getting EXACTLY what they deserve. To bad the rest of us have to suffer with you.

Bingo

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#131 David S
February 01 2014, 06:17PM
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@Ivan Drago

NewAgeSys is back!

*Punches computer screen*

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#132 Serious Gord
February 01 2014, 11:08PM
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admiralmark wrote:

Oh look it's the annual "Lets get rid of the coach" group out in full force. If these guys had it their way we would fire the coach twice each season.

Here's a thought.. OILERS DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TALENT! Mull it over a bit maybe it will sink in where the problem truly lies? But i doubt it.

You're right, of course.

Serially hiring incompetent, unsatisfactory coaches has to stop.

The solution, of course, is to fire the cadre that made the serial hiring mistakes so that the next coach hired is an enduring and successful one.

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#133 Eddie Shore
February 02 2014, 12:34AM
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End the misery. Daryl, are you there??

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#134 Zangetsu
February 02 2014, 12:59AM
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Cut off the head and burn the rest. Start with Lowe, and go Great Terror on the organization.

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#135 Dwarr
February 02 2014, 01:02AM
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Hey I liked Kruger many argued he wasn't a head coach mane not solo but when a man is part of a Canadian Olympic hockey team he has to be near the top of his field or have top notch grasp on a certain aspect of the game. So in my opinion he should have stayed maybe brought in an experienced mentor like originally thought was going to happen. Now Eakins comes in and has issues with all the areas the previous regim had measurable amounts of success. He is way over his head not making compatible systems for the talent provided. He has many qualities that have not transferred well at all to the nhl or this team. He may some day prove to be a useful assistant coach to some team with his fitness and dietary focuses but he will never succed on his own merit as a head coach in this league. Perfect time to bring a near coach in time to maybe right this ship and start fresh over the Olympic break to retool and fix the monstrosity that this team has become this year.

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#136 toprightcorner
February 01 2014, 03:24PM
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Rick Stroppel wrote:

SERIOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT GAGNER

I honestly don't know the answers to these questions. Is his NTC reduced to writing in his contract? Does the NTC remain in effect for the last two years of his contract if he is traded? If so, he is basically untradeable. A team looking at the long term will simply wait for the summer hoping to get him on the cheap after a compliance buy-out. A team looking for short-term help will not want any part of that contract with a NTC.

Can the Oilers trade him and agree to pay part of his contract? Does this count against the cap?

Sorry about the silly questions and thanks for the answers.

Gagner's NMC is only for 14/15 (cap geek)though MacT verbally agreed to a NMC for this year as well. Though it sounds like Gagner will approve a trade for the most part.

MacT can trade him and retain up to 50% of his salary that WILL count against the cap though you can only do this for 3 contracts at time.

Gagner is getting tons of ice time to showcase him but it is making him look worse. I think it would be smarter to sit him for 2 games and then drop him to the 3rd line for a few games in hopes Hendricks will rub off on him or stick him on the 4th line, either way he needs to earn his spot. Quinn and Renny both did that and he responded well and moved up the depth chart.

If Gagner knows he will be traded he has no reason to play hard cause he doesn't care what the return is.

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#137 hark65
February 01 2014, 03:29PM
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@Manfly

I agree. Eakins needs to bring in his own coaching staff for next year.

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#138 Drowning in Oil
February 01 2014, 05:01PM
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@Oilanderp wrote:

I used to think it was the DJ's fault, but now I am pretty convinced that it's the fault of the guy who buys the hockey tape. That tape is too slippery. Pucks just fly right off of it. FIRE THAT GUY RIGHT NOW!!!!

Have you noticed that the players skates don't seem to be tightened enough.

That's the guy to blame.

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#139 **
February 01 2014, 05:25PM
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those 3 in the picture are problems alright

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#140 Joe
February 02 2014, 12:42AM
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It's hard to believe that such an extraordinary gong show of a hockey organisation is operating in a city with such great hockey fans. I have no idea what it would look like, but I keep wondering when the fans will do something that says enough is enough. Lowe & Co are absolutely oblivious to their own failure.

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#141 john
February 02 2014, 02:56AM
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Fire Eakins, he is screwing up this team ans Yakupov. I think Nail is unfairly treated, I m from Toronto and Eakins was unfairly treated Kadri over here before too.

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#142 oilcountryforlife
February 02 2014, 07:01AM
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beloch wrote:

The 2014 pick is looking pretty sweet right about now. What they heck. Cash it in.

The 2015 1st round pick? Trade it.
The 2016 1st round pick? Trade it.
The 2017 1st round pick? Trade it.

Burn the ships to show the troops that retreat is not an option. Use those picks to bring back some hard-working defensively responsible players with good work-ethics and decent contracts. To get all that, these guys may not be as offensively flashy as you'd hope to get for 1st rounders, but the goal is to make those crap first rounders.

Next:

-Bench any forward who cherry-picks while the opposing team has possession.
-If Gagner wasn't cherry-picking, bench him anyways for having the most ironic name in the NHL.
-Bag skate. Bag skate. Bag skate.
-Blast off and nuke Lowe from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
-Tell the kids that they're no longer kids with great potential. They're adults who are failing because they're slacking off.
-Ask the players to donate half their salary to charity and apologize to all of Edmonton for not doing more to earn it. Maybe class and accountability can start off the ice.
-If the team doesn't have a sports psychologist, hire one.
-If the team does have a sports psychologist, fire him.
-Terminate Eakins' command with extreme prejudice.
-Pay the ice girls to follow Hall, Nuge, Eberle, etc. around during commercial breaks while saying things like, "Gee you guys are slacking off tonight!" or "Poor baby. Want me to beat him up for you?"
-Save every sweater fans throw on the ice and hang them up in the dressing room. Let the team burn one each time they win four games in a row.
-Instruct hotels used by the team that alcohol is off the room-service menu and send the whole damned team to AA.
-Borrow a hard-hat from the Flames. Leave it hanging on the wall unless somebody earns it.
-Take the 'C' away from Ference. It goes on the wall next to the hard-hat until somebody starts earning the hard-hat on a regular basis.
-Have the video room guys splice scenes from "Rocky" into the review tapes.
-Put the damned Gretzky pictures back in the dressing room.

Your "burn the ships to show that there is no retreat" comment is your best one of this post, for sure. No point hanging on losses and playing for a draft pick....who does that?!

Oilers fans are paying money not for a promise of tomorrow, but for today....perhaps as fans we could go to a game and if the Oilers win, we will pay a certain percentage of the ticket value at the final buzzer, if they lose, another percentage, if they suck, no cost for the fan (and get refund on parking, and food vouchers for the snack shop for next time).

Fire Lowe! Change the manners and the message from the top down. Oh wait, Katz is at the top and he is pushing the same, "Be patient" mantra. Crap! Guess he doesn't see a problem!

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#143 imustbecrazy
February 02 2014, 09:38AM
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Under Ralph they had a better power play and penalty kill... they had 45 points in 48 games... we are at what 55 games and 42 points. I originally thought Mac T made some good moves in the off season. IE: Perron, Ference, Gordon, But for a team that has this kind of talent, and to add some positives... to get that much worse makes me wonder. Ralph wanted and associate coach... not to be fired! What the hell are Smith and Buchberger still doing there? Did Eakins want to retain them? The Oil go 3 and 0 without Ference... who the hell named this guy captain? He is as much of a leader as Jesse Juensuu is! Hell Luc Gadzic would have make a better Captain. There bottom six doesn't seem to bring alot of life to games to support the top six. Do the names Cogliano, Glencross, and Brodziak sound familiar? Not one person in the bottom 6 comes close to those 3. Those are on Lowe's head. There is definitely a bad apple or two in that dressing room and I don't know who they are... but they need to go. I for one would start with Andrew Ference! I think there are some young bucks in there that felt dissed when he was made captain, and rightly so.

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#144 toprightcorner
February 01 2014, 03:35PM
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I think they should fire Smith and Buchy and give Eakins another year with the team. Players need to know they are being held accountable and firing Eakins now lets them off the hook, again.

They need special teams specialists as assistant coaches. Smith, Bucky and Acton likely have less than 100 PP min playing time combined. Kreuger was the man behind the power play 2 years ago and therefore he could still oversee that same system last year.

I don't see an assistant coaching change this year as most candidates are likely under contract. Making this move would take some heat from the Old Boys Club rep, which would be a good thing

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#145 Show me da Money
February 01 2014, 03:44PM
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Ivan Drago wrote:

This is a flipping joke right?

I think that his RETURN key is broken.

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#146 @Oilanderp
February 01 2014, 04:58PM
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I used to think it was the DJ's fault, but now I am pretty convinced that it's the fault of the guy who buys the hockey tape. That tape is too slippery. Pucks just fly right off of it. FIRE THAT GUY RIGHT NOW!!!!

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#147 seanjohn667
February 02 2014, 01:07AM
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actually Jonathan, this can, and will, continue like this. there is no reason to make the team better. they will start next season without an single bold move, switch out fringe players with other fringe players. they will start next season with the same make up as this. they will be completely dominated by most of the teams because they will be too small. Next season will be identical this one.

book it.

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#148 Serious Gord
February 02 2014, 07:39AM
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outdoorzguy wrote:

My earlier post was edited. Points were added in that I did not write. Does JW do this? Any of the other writers? Perhaps an editor? This is unacceptable. I have now lost confidence in this site as I now must question the authenticity of any posting placed here. Like the Oilers, this site has now become a sham!

Never has happened to me.

Are you sure? Which post and which points?

You're sure it wasn't just too much tanqueray?

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#149 TDSM31
February 01 2014, 04:23PM
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Otis Winchester the third wrote:

this makes allot of sense today............... We have a roster full of bonafide shooters ,it is the system that dictates who is and isnt a shooter,nothing else.Not the player or his abilitys. If the Oilers play the NewAge Hockey System or a variant this year we will see 45 shots per game over 82 games. The NewAge System spreads offensive accountability 100% across the board like no other system being played in the NHL today.The offensive shot decisions are ALL system dictated and the shot choices are also SYSTEM dictated,many responsibilitys are removed from the players focus,and his game speed is drasticly improved as is his execution of system requirements. If a player like Nail,who I have watched a lot of video on,is allowed to contribute to a system like the NewAge System his speed and instincts will if he works hard enough put him in CONSTANT position systemwise to be releaseing his shot,premier shot positions on a consistant basis.With this system and the Oilers talent it will literally be a matter of who works hardest gets the most goals,the opponent will have virtually nothing to say or do about this outcome,the system is THAT offensive and superior to the "hybrid system"being played by most NHL teams. I recognised the finish but we have at least three guys in that league,with a d-man who looks like a sniper as well in Schultz. Yakupovs sucess will depend on the system the coach chooses to use him in if he makes the team out of camp as we all seem to expect. I created the NewAge Hockey System for the Oilers specificly and presented it to them on-line last year,I read Mr.Kruegers comments related to the type of offense we might see being similar to the PP of the 80s Oilers,welcome to my world,my system is absolutely and completely based off of the Oilers PP execution dureing the 80s,i have converted the core values of that PP to a superior 5 on 5 hyper-offensive system unlike any ever seen before.It is unique ,and it is mine.LA used it last year as did our farm team,the Oilers started to implement it with about 25 games to go and had steady sucess. I posted extensively about my system on the Oilers website over a two year period,in an attempt to have it recognised and implemented,I believe I accomplished that,and along the way LA through Jarret Stoll and co. piggybacked the data from the Oilers site and implemented it,and the farm team also implemented my system data effectively,both LA and the farm team attained the expected results,and the Oilers were righting the ship at the end of the year believe it or not,you could feel it. Players like Nail work so very hard every time they hit the ice that they need to play in a system that allows this extra effort to be immediatly rewarded and consistantly rewarded,they need a system that rewards extra effort and individual efforts that are aggressive and offensive for 60 complete minutes.A system that drains them of offensive energy,not one that stifles it ,not even for 5 mins of a game. If Nail is on the second line consistantly he will push for the team goals lead and walk away with the Calder hands down,possibly by a record margin of points if he stays healthy for 82 games,I believe Sam Gagner is a natural fit with Nails vision and insincts,and because Sam looks to be anchoring the 2nd line their unavoidable chemistry will rear its head through many multiple point games for the two of them,if we see this dynamic for 82 games I peg Yakupov within the NewAge System to score 35 plus goals,if he finds a home on the PP maybe 40---and the 2nd line will propel us into the playoffs with those multi-point games.Remember this is a system specific prediction.If we play a hybrid system like we did most of last year,I say he will be a 20ish goal guy no matter what icetime he gets.i appreciate nails skillset and shot ect. but I still firmly believe that offensive sucess is catalysed by system induced opportunitys---so with an average system he will perform above average for a rookie,with a superior system he will perform above average on the NHL level. Just make sure you remember to not blame Sammy for shooting a lot this year with nail on his line if we use the NewAge System,because the shots will be system dictated not dictated by anyones greed.And there should be 45 per game to go around,and i love the math when I see nails conversion ability,he will get four shots per game average,so it should be interesting. If we play a hybrid system he will get less shots per game by a large margin,I see Nail useing his onetimer on the PP a lot and getting most of his goals from there which is why i pegged him in the 20s,but in the NewAge System he will be generateing his goals off 5 on 5 situations as well as the PP and he will have a constant stream of system induced shooting opportunitys which is why I pegged him at possibly 40 goals. Yes,he is a finisher,yes he has an invisible release,and yes he can score from absolutely everywhere,and yes he will fit in here and have a lot of great young teachers to help him out,like a third born he will talk-walk-and score goals faster because of his slightly older siblings like Hall-Gagner-Nuge-Ebbs ect. But lets remember that he is walking into a room full of high picks with a serious skillset depth---this may be the toughest test he has ever had,and certainly tougher than the fellas before him,he has to compete with the full deck of cards with hemsky-Nuge-Hall-Ebbs-Gagner-Schultz-MPS ect.I dont see there being that much pressure or expectations put on him,we dont exactly need a savior these days with all the young studs we have. As with all our players,as the system goes so goes the players statistical seasons.We can already count on one thing,Nail will be ready to put in the hard work needed to be a system asset,and the system wont matter in that regard,the rest is still unwritten history,and anyone who wants to can pick up the pen and start writeing,they just need the desire---I see a lot of that in this young man.

Haha....Gary Busey is back!!

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#150 @Oilanderp
February 01 2014, 04:55PM
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@dougtheslug

Fine.

*goes to closet and unsheathes his pitchfork*

I stand ready to shout incoherently and light random fires!

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