Unacceptable

Jonathan Willis
February 01 2014 01:58PM

Without superhuman goaltending from Ben Scrivens (and he was just fine in today's loss) the Edmonton Oilers were on the wrong end of a 4-0 score against Boston. They were outshot, outchanced, somehow outhit despite never having the puck and flat-out out-played.

The Last Two Games

 

Edmonton has allowed 100 shots over its last two contests. They have matched up against the NHL's powers and been found not just wanting but humiliatingly, embarassingly unable to even put in a respectable showing. Team Switzerland has been more competitive in Olympic matches against Team Canada.

The scoring chances today paint an ugly picture of an outsmarted, outskilled and outworked team:

The Problems

 
The problems are myriad. Let's take a quick walk-through:

  • The powerplay. A strength as recently as a year ago - with much the same cast of players - it has devolved into a terrible weakness. Boston outchanced Edmonton 2-0 during Oilers powerplays today, and after a decent start to the night a first period power play sucked whatever energy the team had out of them. This one is on the coaching staff.
  • The Oilers had a top-10 penalty kill a year ago. This year, they sit 17th in the NHL, and they allowed two goals on five opportunities against the Bruins. The cast may even be improved from last season - this one too is on the coaches.
  • The top line. A year ago, the top line was an undisciplined run-and-gun trio that outshot and outchanced the opposition. This year, it's an undisciplined run-and-gun trio that gets badly outshot and outchanced by the opposition.
  • Sam Gagner. Just that.
  • The defence. This one is on the current general manager to some degree, and on the one before him to a much larger degree. A year ago, Nick Schultz and Justin Schultz were in over their heads as the Oilers' second pair. Currently, they're in over their heads as the Oilers' top pair. Andrew Ference and Jeff Petry have good points, but they're being asked to play at levels well beyond their ability to handle. Rookie Martin Marincin is in the top-four on merit. Mark Fraser is just the latest addition to a forgetable group of bottom-pairing blue liners that have demonstrated little beyond an ability to get lit up in the NHL.

Today's loss is yet another in a long series of humiliating low points for the Oilers. There is no excuse. It cannot be allowed to continue. This team desperately needs to turn things around, and soon. Maybe that means reworking the coaching staff so that new assistants can add some outside insight during an Olympic break reworking of team strategy - and provide better support for a rookie head coach. Maybe it means replacing Dallas Eakins with a veteran NHL bench boss.

Maybe it means more than that, or that and more than that. But this team cannot continue as-is. 

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Jonathan Willis is a freelance writer. He currently works for Oilers Nation, the Edmonton Journal and Bleacher Report. He's co-written three books and worked for myriad websites, including Grantland, ESPN, The Score, and Hockey Prospectus. He was previously the founder and managing editor of Copper & Blue.
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#1 Otis Winchester the third
February 01 2014, 03:30PM
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this makes allot of sense today............... We have a roster full of bonafide shooters ,it is the system that dictates who is and isnt a shooter,nothing else.Not the player or his abilitys. If the Oilers play the NewAge Hockey System or a variant this year we will see 45 shots per game over 82 games. The NewAge System spreads offensive accountability 100% across the board like no other system being played in the NHL today.The offensive shot decisions are ALL system dictated and the shot choices are also SYSTEM dictated,many responsibilitys are removed from the players focus,and his game speed is drasticly improved as is his execution of system requirements. If a player like Nail,who I have watched a lot of video on,is allowed to contribute to a system like the NewAge System his speed and instincts will if he works hard enough put him in CONSTANT position systemwise to be releaseing his shot,premier shot positions on a consistant basis.With this system and the Oilers talent it will literally be a matter of who works hardest gets the most goals,the opponent will have virtually nothing to say or do about this outcome,the system is THAT offensive and superior to the "hybrid system"being played by most NHL teams. I recognised the finish but we have at least three guys in that league,with a d-man who looks like a sniper as well in Schultz. Yakupovs sucess will depend on the system the coach chooses to use him in if he makes the team out of camp as we all seem to expect. I created the NewAge Hockey System for the Oilers specificly and presented it to them on-line last year,I read Mr.Kruegers comments related to the type of offense we might see being similar to the PP of the 80s Oilers,welcome to my world,my system is absolutely and completely based off of the Oilers PP execution dureing the 80s,i have converted the core values of that PP to a superior 5 on 5 hyper-offensive system unlike any ever seen before.It is unique ,and it is mine.LA used it last year as did our farm team,the Oilers started to implement it with about 25 games to go and had steady sucess. I posted extensively about my system on the Oilers website over a two year period,in an attempt to have it recognised and implemented,I believe I accomplished that,and along the way LA through Jarret Stoll and co. piggybacked the data from the Oilers site and implemented it,and the farm team also implemented my system data effectively,both LA and the farm team attained the expected results,and the Oilers were righting the ship at the end of the year believe it or not,you could feel it. Players like Nail work so very hard every time they hit the ice that they need to play in a system that allows this extra effort to be immediatly rewarded and consistantly rewarded,they need a system that rewards extra effort and individual efforts that are aggressive and offensive for 60 complete minutes.A system that drains them of offensive energy,not one that stifles it ,not even for 5 mins of a game. If Nail is on the second line consistantly he will push for the team goals lead and walk away with the Calder hands down,possibly by a record margin of points if he stays healthy for 82 games,I believe Sam Gagner is a natural fit with Nails vision and insincts,and because Sam looks to be anchoring the 2nd line their unavoidable chemistry will rear its head through many multiple point games for the two of them,if we see this dynamic for 82 games I peg Yakupov within the NewAge System to score 35 plus goals,if he finds a home on the PP maybe 40---and the 2nd line will propel us into the playoffs with those multi-point games.Remember this is a system specific prediction.If we play a hybrid system like we did most of last year,I say he will be a 20ish goal guy no matter what icetime he gets.i appreciate nails skillset and shot ect. but I still firmly believe that offensive sucess is catalysed by system induced opportunitys---so with an average system he will perform above average for a rookie,with a superior system he will perform above average on the NHL level. Just make sure you remember to not blame Sammy for shooting a lot this year with nail on his line if we use the NewAge System,because the shots will be system dictated not dictated by anyones greed.And there should be 45 per game to go around,and i love the math when I see nails conversion ability,he will get four shots per game average,so it should be interesting. If we play a hybrid system he will get less shots per game by a large margin,I see Nail useing his onetimer on the PP a lot and getting most of his goals from there which is why i pegged him in the 20s,but in the NewAge System he will be generateing his goals off 5 on 5 situations as well as the PP and he will have a constant stream of system induced shooting opportunitys which is why I pegged him at possibly 40 goals. Yes,he is a finisher,yes he has an invisible release,and yes he can score from absolutely everywhere,and yes he will fit in here and have a lot of great young teachers to help him out,like a third born he will talk-walk-and score goals faster because of his slightly older siblings like Hall-Gagner-Nuge-Ebbs ect. But lets remember that he is walking into a room full of high picks with a serious skillset depth---this may be the toughest test he has ever had,and certainly tougher than the fellas before him,he has to compete with the full deck of cards with hemsky-Nuge-Hall-Ebbs-Gagner-Schultz-MPS ect.I dont see there being that much pressure or expectations put on him,we dont exactly need a savior these days with all the young studs we have. As with all our players,as the system goes so goes the players statistical seasons.We can already count on one thing,Nail will be ready to put in the hard work needed to be a system asset,and the system wont matter in that regard,the rest is still unwritten history,and anyone who wants to can pick up the pen and start writeing,they just need the desire---I see a lot of that in this young man.

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#2 Grant fuhr
February 01 2014, 07:17PM
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I think that I should be the new gm, I only snorted a little bit of blow, Craig got drunk as a skunk and killed a guy . No more ex cons in the front office.

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#3 @Oilanderp
February 01 2014, 04:49PM
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When a bad team plays a bad game against a great team that plays a good game, results like these occur.

No need for anyone to lose their minds over it, or make knee-jerk reactions.

The only thing to do right now is go over the "tape" and work on cutting those things out in practice over and over until they're gone. Practice and repeat until good habits are muscle memory.

Is just a game. Why you heff to be medd?

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#4 admiralmark
February 01 2014, 10:56PM
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Oh look it's the annual "Lets get rid of the coach" group out in full force. If these guys had it their way we would fire the coach twice each season.

Here's a thought.. OILERS DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TALENT! Mull it over a bit maybe it will sink in where the problem truly lies? But i doubt it.

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#5 tileguy
February 01 2014, 11:44PM
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Rick Stroppel wrote:

OK, I'LL BITE

What has MacTavish done to show he is NOT capable of turning this around:

1. Firing Kreuger and hiring Eakins on a whim.

2. Not replacing the assistants.

3. Grebeshkov.

4. Belov.

5. Further to 4 and 5, totally failing to provide the team with NHL quality defense.

6. Labarbera.

7. Bryzgalov.

8. Further to 6 and 7 (and keeping in mind that one great game does not make an NHL career) totally failing to provide the team with NHL quality goaltending.

9. Gagner contract.

10. Total clown show at the draft, resulting in no goalie prospects drafted.

11. Merrily trading away draft choices when the team is supposed to be rebuilding.

I am sure I missed some but I am tired.

PS : We are all "armchair GM's", and it is fun, that is why we read and write these posts!

Very weak brother, that's all hindsight ship except for the Eakins hiring.

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#6 Fresh Mess
February 01 2014, 02:25PM
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I'm guessing we'll be seeing head coach Messier before too long.

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#7 Dan 1919
February 01 2014, 02:47PM
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Next Year’s lineup:

(Hall-x-x), (Perron-RNH-x) (x-x-x) (Hendricks/Gazdic - Gordon - x)

( X-X) (Nurse- Marincin) (J-Shultz- Kefbom)

Use current roster players to fill in as many x’s as possible to be a good team. Ready-set-Go MacT.

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#8 @Oilanderp
February 01 2014, 04:58PM
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I used to think it was the DJ's fault, but now I am pretty convinced that it's the fault of the guy who buys the hockey tape. That tape is too slippery. Pucks just fly right off of it. FIRE THAT GUY RIGHT NOW!!!!

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#9 john
February 02 2014, 03:47AM
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Old Oilers legend photos in front of locker room were removed by Eakins, those were like gods, without the past there's no present and no future. This Oilers team has no identity and now they can't look up to those legends any more. Fire Eakins, he cannot deliver the winning team.

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#10 Fresh Mess
February 01 2014, 02:30PM
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The problem is the owner and his right hand man Lowe.

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#11 Rick Stroppel
February 01 2014, 02:59PM
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SHOULD ALL THE COACHES BE FIRED NOW?

Jonathan, you seem to imply that the coaches should all be fired now. If so, I disagree. You may be craving a Winnipeg Jets style bounce. I do not think that would help in the long run. Hiring a new head coach is often like eating a big chocolate bar: you get a big burst of energy followed by a let down. Look at Buffalo.

How much do any of us know about what is going on behind the scenes? People are ready to fire many of these guys because they don't like their facial expressions during the game. For all we know, maybe SOME of them are actually good at what they do.

Somebody has to coach the team between now and the end of the season. The franchise is reeling from crisis to crisis. The LAST thing they need is Lowe and MacTavish hiring people hastily, out of a limited pool, based on somebody's misguided hunch. Plenty of time to do an honest assessment in the summer. Have a REAL search to fill these positions, like REAL NHL teams do.

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#12 S cottV
February 01 2014, 04:54PM
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It wasn't appropriate to be negative after Scrivens performance vs SJ, but now - geez - another game where it's just plain embarrassing.

I fully appreciate the magnitude of wanting to avoid replacing the Head Coach will all that has transpired in the past few years.

That being said - its to the point where it has become a necessity and any true hockey guy knows it and feels it in the gut.

There is not one element of play or even an intangible that you can point to and say that Eakins is achieving at - let alone over achieving at. Nothing you can point to and say - you know when this or that comes together, its gonna be great. Nothing...

The Boys on the Bus need to make one more move to see if there is a little magic left from the glory days. MacT - take the bench and bring Messier in as an Associate. See if you guys can give this group a Maurice like bump to restore some semblance of order to this mess.

If you can - maybe that's a sign.

If you can't - maybe it's a sign to move on - once and for all.

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#13 Dan 1919
February 01 2014, 02:20PM
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Here we are 4 season into the stamped and certified KLowe rebuild and we’ve got 1 good player in Taylor Hall, a few small flashy forwards like Ebs and RNH, and a team no where close to NHL compete level... utter failure.

Hopefully Mac-T can right this ship in the next year or two because if he doesn’t there would be no choice left but to actually rebuild the rebuild, meaning a very long time without watching a real NHL team.

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#14 @Oilanderp
February 01 2014, 04:55PM
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@dougtheslug

Fine.

*goes to closet and unsheathes his pitchfork*

I stand ready to shout incoherently and light random fires!

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#15 Retsinnab5
February 01 2014, 02:03PM
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Our Defence sucks, Our PP sucks and Our first line is having a bad game.

What does Dallas Eakins do?

He decides to bench Yak. What an Idiot!

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#16 emonkee
February 01 2014, 02:13PM
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JW, I am not sure I agree with you on this...as I posted in LT's GDB today, the PLAYERS made a ton of mistakes...in the latter part of a PP in the second period...after a fairly decent 1PP shift, 2nd unit stepped on, hemsky can't control the dump-in, puck was sent down, next possession, after the oilers dump-in, puck was sent around to Gagner, he can't control the puck, and puck got sent down again. Ference retrieved the puck and going up the left side....3 oilers were standing on the left side, leaving only hemsky on the right to try to stop the dump-in, either that is Ference's lack of vision, or the 3 oilers who were on the stuck on the same side. In that play, hemsky tried to drop the puck back to ference, kreiji picked off and created a 3 on 2. Next PP, hall was deep in the zone, but he elected to make another drop pass (these oilers luv to make blind drop passes) to JSchultz, Paille pressured and have a breakaway, thank goodness Scrivens saved it. These are simple plays, not defending Eakins, but I doubt Eakins told the players to cough up the puck that much in the PP. These are on the players...

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#17 hark65
February 01 2014, 03:07PM
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@Retsinnab5

Yak is part of the "defence sucks" problem. Doesn't have a clue where his own end is or what to do when he get in it.

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#18 Ivan Drago
February 01 2014, 06:09PM
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Rick Stroppel wrote:

ONE SIMPLE QUESTION

I just have one question and I REALLY hope someone can answer it for me:

IF MACTAVISH HAS MADE MORE GOOD MOVES THAN BAD MOVES, WHY IS THE TEAM IN SECOND LAST PLACE?

PS: MacTavish went back to work for the Oilers in the spring of 2012. He has only been GM for about 9 months but he has been "reconnected" with the organization for almost two years. This is the new "Oilers way": ignore incompetence and/or make excuses for it.

Because MacT can't go back in time. He can't fix 7 yrs of losing with one off season, when the coming season had a salary cap going down. Hes made mistakes, we all do regardless of our profession. But Perron, Gordon, Ference are all solid additions. Eakins may have been a mistake. Signing Gags was another. Using the word Bold, was prob his biggest. MacT will improve as GM with time, like most of us do when gaining experience.

Let me ask this, what has MacT done or not done to show he is incapable of turning this around? I'd love to hear from all you armchair gm's who played Jr B and think they know it all.

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#19 blue31
February 01 2014, 11:58PM
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@admiralmark

THEY DO HAVE ENOUGH TALENT! On paper, the Oilers roster should match up with most teams in the league.

They have a bunch of highly skilled first over-all draft picks. They have a player who has scored 8 points in a single NHL game. They have a player who was money in the WJCs. They have a record setting goaltender. They have a Stanley Cup champion defenceman. They have another D-man who was the most sought after free-agent a couple years ago. They have world class skills in Hemsky and Smyth. Marincin is in the Olympics.

They are looking completely confused, disoriented and apprehensive.

THAT is coaching failure of the highest degree.

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#20 beloch
February 02 2014, 06:38AM
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The 2014 pick is looking pretty sweet right about now. What they heck. Cash it in.

The 2015 1st round pick? Trade it.
The 2016 1st round pick? Trade it.
The 2017 1st round pick? Trade it.

Burn the ships to show the troops that retreat is not an option. Use those picks to bring back some hard-working defensively responsible players with good work-ethics and decent contracts. To get all that, these guys may not be as offensively flashy as you'd hope to get for 1st rounders, but the goal is to make those crap first rounders.

Next:

-Bench any forward who cherry-picks while the opposing team has possession.
-If Gagner wasn't cherry-picking, bench him anyways for having the most ironic name in the NHL.
-Bag skate. Bag skate. Bag skate.
-Blast off and nuke Lowe from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
-Tell the kids that they're no longer kids with great potential. They're adults who are failing because they're slacking off.
-Ask the players to donate half their salary to charity and apologize to all of Edmonton for not doing more to earn it. Maybe class and accountability can start off the ice.
-If the team doesn't have a sports psychologist, hire one.
-If the team does have a sports psychologist, fire him.
-Terminate Eakins' command with extreme prejudice.
-Pay the ice girls to follow Hall, Nuge, Eberle, etc. around during commercial breaks while saying things like, "Gee you guys are slacking off tonight!" or "Poor baby. Want me to beat him up for you?"
-Save every sweater fans throw on the ice and hang them up in the dressing room. Let the team burn one each time they win four games in a row.
-Instruct hotels used by the team that alcohol is off the room-service menu and send the whole damned team to AA.
-Borrow a hard-hat from the Flames. Leave it hanging on the wall unless somebody earns it.
-Take the 'C' away from Ference. It goes on the wall next to the hard-hat until somebody starts earning the hard-hat on a regular basis.
-Have the video room guys splice scenes from "Rocky" into the review tapes.
-Put the damned Gretzky pictures back in the dressing room.

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#21 Reg Dunlop
February 02 2014, 12:33PM
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Did they shut down flamenation? Why are all these flamelosers stinking up the one true nation? Get lost and leave us to wallow.

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#22 madjam
February 01 2014, 02:28PM
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This regression hockey has more to do with management and coaching than the players I'm afraid ! Same mind think and same regressive results ?

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#23 toprightcorner
February 01 2014, 03:35PM
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I think they should fire Smith and Buchy and give Eakins another year with the team. Players need to know they are being held accountable and firing Eakins now lets them off the hook, again.

They need special teams specialists as assistant coaches. Smith, Bucky and Acton likely have less than 100 PP min playing time combined. Kreuger was the man behind the power play 2 years ago and therefore he could still oversee that same system last year.

I don't see an assistant coaching change this year as most candidates are likely under contract. Making this move would take some heat from the Old Boys Club rep, which would be a good thing

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#24 gcw_rocks
February 01 2014, 03:37PM
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So, to summarize,

The powerplay is on the coaches signed or retained by MacT.

The penalty kill is on the coaches signed or retained by MacT.

The fall off of the top line would seem to be coaching as well. Nothing else had changed. So,on the coaches signed or retained by MacT.

Gagner. MacT passed up the chance to sell high on Gagner this summer to fill a hole on defence because of his man crush Gagner. And he gave a verbal no trade that Gagner is not entitled to under the CBA.

I think you are being to kind on MacT for the defense. Hainsey went the whole summer without a contract. So did Gilbert. Even signing one of those two would have been a huge improvement. MacT gambled on a whole series of long shots rather than placing some safe bets. That's on him. Imagine what this defence would be like if Marincin hadn't been ready. By all rights, he shouldn't be.

So, there is a common thread to the failure. MacT.

All the MacT fans out there are getting EXACTLY what they deserve. To bad the rest of us have to suffer with you.

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#25 outdoorzguy
February 02 2014, 07:02AM
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My earlier post was edited. Points were added in that I did not write. Does JW do this? Any of the other writers? Perhaps an editor? This is unacceptable. I have now lost confidence in this site as I now must question the authenticity of any posting placed here. Like the Oilers, this site has now become a sham!

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#26 D-Unit
February 02 2014, 09:35AM
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Thumby wrote:

I wonder where we'd be if we had done this:

Sequin Landeskog Galchenyuk (or Murray) AND don't win 2 or 3 meaningless games last year and get Seth Jones instead of Nurse.

Go for Centers and D and decent sized players.

Not that I think Sequin is better than Hall but I do think he's less prone to the bone head play and he's a center.

And IF we let them have that extra year to mature before bringing them in, we'd have been so far ahead of where we are now.

Surely we'd be somewhere better than we are now...wouldn't we?

What games did the Oilers win that were meaningless last year?

They were showing progress. There is never ever any reason not to win. No win is meaningless.

A team needs to progress and win more than they lose. You can't be either 30th place or Cup winner.

Please don't ever post here again if you think the Oilers need to lose more or should have lost more last year or the year before or whenever.

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#27 Serious Gord
February 01 2014, 02:30PM
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Six shut outs this year. What's the record for a season?

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Good to see johnathon formally joining the ranks of journos who are willing to consider removal of Eakins.

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Benching yak seems foolish to me. Hard to see how he was any worse than than any other player. How come gagner was NOT benched? Heck how about benching hall for his peewee-level passing attempts?

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And is this a first for Johnathon to completely single out a player Sam Gagner for criticism in his very own bulletpoint in a game review?

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#28 Drowning in Oil
February 01 2014, 04:56PM
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Dear Dallas Eakins,

SQUARE PEG does not fit in ROUND HOLE. You are a horrible coach.

Sincerely, Any reasonable Oiler fan

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#29 Oliveoiler
February 01 2014, 07:04PM
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Accountability/commitment - players-none Accountability/commitment - head coach-none Accountability/commitment - asst coaches-none Accountability/commitment - goalie coach-none Accountability/commitment - scouts-none "why should we have accountability/commitment when we pick up our pay cheques regardless?"

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. Gagner gross, Hemsky hopeless, Ferrance finished, Schultz x 2 shabby, Petry pathetic, Hall horrible,,,,,,,,,,,,,, the list goes on and on and on and on........... only bright light is #30 - so lets see how long he sticks around with this crowd.

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#30 imustbecrazy
February 02 2014, 09:38AM
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Under Ralph they had a better power play and penalty kill... they had 45 points in 48 games... we are at what 55 games and 42 points. I originally thought Mac T made some good moves in the off season. IE: Perron, Ference, Gordon, But for a team that has this kind of talent, and to add some positives... to get that much worse makes me wonder. Ralph wanted and associate coach... not to be fired! What the hell are Smith and Buchberger still doing there? Did Eakins want to retain them? The Oil go 3 and 0 without Ference... who the hell named this guy captain? He is as much of a leader as Jesse Juensuu is! Hell Luc Gadzic would have make a better Captain. There bottom six doesn't seem to bring alot of life to games to support the top six. Do the names Cogliano, Glencross, and Brodziak sound familiar? Not one person in the bottom 6 comes close to those 3. Those are on Lowe's head. There is definitely a bad apple or two in that dressing room and I don't know who they are... but they need to go. I for one would start with Andrew Ference! I think there are some young bucks in there that felt dissed when he was made captain, and rightly so.

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#31 Dan 1919
February 01 2014, 02:58PM
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@Rick Stroppel

NTC kicks in this summer, so if they dealt him now, starting this summer, the team that has him can’t trade him without his permission for 2 years.

Someone would still take him, just as they would Ebs, but we would only get for them what they are worth. Something most Oiler fans can’t seem to realize.

Your point is exactly valid, there’s a reason we’ve been terrible for so long, terrible D and overvaluing guys like Ebs and Gagner. They’re both overvalued and signed long term now, we’d only get peanuts for them because we’ve overvalued them and hung on too long.

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#32 hark65
February 01 2014, 03:29PM
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I agree. Eakins needs to bring in his own coaching staff for next year.

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#33 master of my domain
February 01 2014, 03:31PM
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I think the problem is pretty obvious, Eakins has never won a cup with the Oilers in the 80's, how can he know anything about winning.

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#34 otter2233
February 01 2014, 05:20PM
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Anyone else miss Ralph Krueger?

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#35 Serious Gord
February 01 2014, 06:38PM
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Ivan Drago wrote:

Because MacT can't go back in time. He can't fix 7 yrs of losing with one off season, when the coming season had a salary cap going down. Hes made mistakes, we all do regardless of our profession. But Perron, Gordon, Ference are all solid additions. Eakins may have been a mistake. Signing Gags was another. Using the word Bold, was prob his biggest. MacT will improve as GM with time, like most of us do when gaining experience.

Let me ask this, what has MacT done or not done to show he is incapable of turning this around? I'd love to hear from all you armchair gm's who played Jr B and think they know it all.

Perron, Ference and Gordon were decent signings - Ference I'm not so sure of long term. But none of those were stokes of genius or mastery of the GM position.

Gagner was a self centered move

Eakins was reckless

Hemsky was a case of over-valuation

Grebeshkov - too loyal

Belov - scout-free apparently he took the lead on getting him.

And on... He has failed so far as GM. And his only qualification over other - proven options. He's a FOK.

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#36 oilsnc79
February 01 2014, 07:25PM
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Mac T capable, Eakins capable, Being from Ont. I have watched Marlies and he did well. Bucky & Smith - not impressed. Lowe- your call. I have been an oil snc 79 and haven't seen this as bad. Problem ... Katz ... Lowe offered resignation ,, refused!! MacT ... hands tied. New Reality .. get use to it. I appologise for the truth.

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#37 Rod from Viking
February 01 2014, 07:35PM
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Grant fuhr wrote:

I think that I should be the new gm, I only snorted a little bit of blow, Craig got drunk as a skunk and killed a guy . No more ex cons in the front office.

I really do not like the reference to the vehicular homicide, Craig made a mistake that a lot of people made back then by drinking and driving and he is still paying for it. Make sure you don't text and drive or the same could happen to you. Lets keep personal attacks out of this site.

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#38 Chambers
February 02 2014, 08:30AM
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How about those FLAMES!! Zero talent yet they have a 5 games win streak the longest in the NHL this season. They play with big heart and desire and work there ass off every shift.

Oh well Oiller fans enjoy watching 17 year old Ekblad develop and the Flamers instead will play for winning culture rather than draft position.

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#39 Manfly
February 01 2014, 03:08PM
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Jordan Nugent-Hallkins wrote:

By the sounds of it, missing this game was a very, very good thing.

i picked up the game in the middle of the 2nd period when it was 1-0 Boston and said to myself...."i guess i didn't miss much". looks like i didn't. same old same old. but i was expecting this to happen, the win streak can't last forever and they will eventually fall back on the suck again. Eakins should stay, but for the love of God, please don't tell Eakins next year he has to work with Smith and Bucky on the bench again! let him hire the rest of the coaching staff HE wants!

and MacT is really on the hot seat this summer. he MUST find as close to a #1 d-man that he can, as well as better bottom end d-men. he also MUST find some size and grit that can actually play NHL hockey, but i realize he may not find all these things in just one summer. the heat is really on this guy starting at the trade deadline!

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#40 Serious Gord
February 01 2014, 03:47PM
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gcw_rocks wrote:

So, to summarize,

The powerplay is on the coaches signed or retained by MacT.

The penalty kill is on the coaches signed or retained by MacT.

The fall off of the top line would seem to be coaching as well. Nothing else had changed. So,on the coaches signed or retained by MacT.

Gagner. MacT passed up the chance to sell high on Gagner this summer to fill a hole on defence because of his man crush Gagner. And he gave a verbal no trade that Gagner is not entitled to under the CBA.

I think you are being to kind on MacT for the defense. Hainsey went the whole summer without a contract. So did Gilbert. Even signing one of those two would have been a huge improvement. MacT gambled on a whole series of long shots rather than placing some safe bets. That's on him. Imagine what this defence would be like if Marincin hadn't been ready. By all rights, he shouldn't be.

So, there is a common thread to the failure. MacT.

All the MacT fans out there are getting EXACTLY what they deserve. To bad the rest of us have to suffer with you.

Bingo

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#41 TDSM31
February 01 2014, 04:23PM
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Otis Winchester the third wrote:

this makes allot of sense today............... We have a roster full of bonafide shooters ,it is the system that dictates who is and isnt a shooter,nothing else.Not the player or his abilitys. If the Oilers play the NewAge Hockey System or a variant this year we will see 45 shots per game over 82 games. The NewAge System spreads offensive accountability 100% across the board like no other system being played in the NHL today.The offensive shot decisions are ALL system dictated and the shot choices are also SYSTEM dictated,many responsibilitys are removed from the players focus,and his game speed is drasticly improved as is his execution of system requirements. If a player like Nail,who I have watched a lot of video on,is allowed to contribute to a system like the NewAge System his speed and instincts will if he works hard enough put him in CONSTANT position systemwise to be releaseing his shot,premier shot positions on a consistant basis.With this system and the Oilers talent it will literally be a matter of who works hardest gets the most goals,the opponent will have virtually nothing to say or do about this outcome,the system is THAT offensive and superior to the "hybrid system"being played by most NHL teams. I recognised the finish but we have at least three guys in that league,with a d-man who looks like a sniper as well in Schultz. Yakupovs sucess will depend on the system the coach chooses to use him in if he makes the team out of camp as we all seem to expect. I created the NewAge Hockey System for the Oilers specificly and presented it to them on-line last year,I read Mr.Kruegers comments related to the type of offense we might see being similar to the PP of the 80s Oilers,welcome to my world,my system is absolutely and completely based off of the Oilers PP execution dureing the 80s,i have converted the core values of that PP to a superior 5 on 5 hyper-offensive system unlike any ever seen before.It is unique ,and it is mine.LA used it last year as did our farm team,the Oilers started to implement it with about 25 games to go and had steady sucess. I posted extensively about my system on the Oilers website over a two year period,in an attempt to have it recognised and implemented,I believe I accomplished that,and along the way LA through Jarret Stoll and co. piggybacked the data from the Oilers site and implemented it,and the farm team also implemented my system data effectively,both LA and the farm team attained the expected results,and the Oilers were righting the ship at the end of the year believe it or not,you could feel it. Players like Nail work so very hard every time they hit the ice that they need to play in a system that allows this extra effort to be immediatly rewarded and consistantly rewarded,they need a system that rewards extra effort and individual efforts that are aggressive and offensive for 60 complete minutes.A system that drains them of offensive energy,not one that stifles it ,not even for 5 mins of a game. If Nail is on the second line consistantly he will push for the team goals lead and walk away with the Calder hands down,possibly by a record margin of points if he stays healthy for 82 games,I believe Sam Gagner is a natural fit with Nails vision and insincts,and because Sam looks to be anchoring the 2nd line their unavoidable chemistry will rear its head through many multiple point games for the two of them,if we see this dynamic for 82 games I peg Yakupov within the NewAge System to score 35 plus goals,if he finds a home on the PP maybe 40---and the 2nd line will propel us into the playoffs with those multi-point games.Remember this is a system specific prediction.If we play a hybrid system like we did most of last year,I say he will be a 20ish goal guy no matter what icetime he gets.i appreciate nails skillset and shot ect. but I still firmly believe that offensive sucess is catalysed by system induced opportunitys---so with an average system he will perform above average for a rookie,with a superior system he will perform above average on the NHL level. Just make sure you remember to not blame Sammy for shooting a lot this year with nail on his line if we use the NewAge System,because the shots will be system dictated not dictated by anyones greed.And there should be 45 per game to go around,and i love the math when I see nails conversion ability,he will get four shots per game average,so it should be interesting. If we play a hybrid system he will get less shots per game by a large margin,I see Nail useing his onetimer on the PP a lot and getting most of his goals from there which is why i pegged him in the 20s,but in the NewAge System he will be generateing his goals off 5 on 5 situations as well as the PP and he will have a constant stream of system induced shooting opportunitys which is why I pegged him at possibly 40 goals. Yes,he is a finisher,yes he has an invisible release,and yes he can score from absolutely everywhere,and yes he will fit in here and have a lot of great young teachers to help him out,like a third born he will talk-walk-and score goals faster because of his slightly older siblings like Hall-Gagner-Nuge-Ebbs ect. But lets remember that he is walking into a room full of high picks with a serious skillset depth---this may be the toughest test he has ever had,and certainly tougher than the fellas before him,he has to compete with the full deck of cards with hemsky-Nuge-Hall-Ebbs-Gagner-Schultz-MPS ect.I dont see there being that much pressure or expectations put on him,we dont exactly need a savior these days with all the young studs we have. As with all our players,as the system goes so goes the players statistical seasons.We can already count on one thing,Nail will be ready to put in the hard work needed to be a system asset,and the system wont matter in that regard,the rest is still unwritten history,and anyone who wants to can pick up the pen and start writeing,they just need the desire---I see a lot of that in this young man.

Haha....Gary Busey is back!!

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#42 Spydyr
February 01 2014, 05:09PM
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To all the people who thought Eakins was the second coming of Scotty Bowman before he even coached a game in the NHL.How do you feel about that now?

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#43 hall the time
February 01 2014, 05:24PM
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Why was Jesse Jouensuu not playing but Jones and Hendrix were. In the San Jose and todays game Jones was one of the biggest problems we were stuck in our own end, sure he made some good plays to keep the puck out of the net but it was his fault we were in our own end in the first place among others, bad positioning.

And why bring in two new body's after the win over San Jose it was a game to work on from a coaching stand point, let just see if it works against Boston...... Bad Bad coaching. I never liked the power play at all this year and still don't.

The good.

The forwards are helping the D but not enough they need to pressure the puck carrier and us their stick a whole lot better that's were coaching comes in.

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#44 Gk1980
February 01 2014, 07:35PM
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Anyone notice ebrrles poor play recently? He is BRUTAL to the point I think he is sabatoging this team. WAAAAAY to many moves before a shot attempt. The guy just needs to shoot the damn luck. The oilers Achilles heal is their lack of producing any sort of consistent offensive pressure. They also looked lost out there, like they have no systems going whatsoever.

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#45 Rick Stroppel
February 01 2014, 07:40PM
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Grant fuhr wrote:

I think that I should be the new gm, I only snorted a little bit of blow, Craig got drunk as a skunk and killed a guy . No more ex cons in the front office.

THIS IS A LOW BLOW

FYI, the victim in MacTavish's case was a woman. He paid the price. He got a three year sentence (about what he would he would have got in Canada) and spent a year behind bars (ditto).

This is TOTALLY IRRELEVANT to a hockey discussion. A wise person once said "a man is more than the worst thing he ever did". MacTavish has moved on, so should everyone else.

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#46 Oilers Coffey
February 01 2014, 10:18PM
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Accountability, Preparation & Systems... EAKINS DOES NOT HAVE!

These are huge shortcomings in the Oilers this year. This team comes out dead flat time and time again this season, what does Eakins do roll his eyes, and flick his hair.

Entire coaching staff must go, I've liked the moves MacT has made but hiring Eakins was his BIGGEST MISTAKE!

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#47 Thumby
February 02 2014, 08:25AM
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I wonder where we'd be if we had done this:

Sequin Landeskog Galchenyuk (or Murray) AND don't win 2 or 3 meaningless games last year and get Seth Jones instead of Nurse.

Go for Centers and D and decent sized players.

Not that I think Sequin is better than Hall but I do think he's less prone to the bone head play and he's a center.

And IF we let them have that extra year to mature before bringing them in, we'd have been so far ahead of where we are now.

Surely we'd be somewhere better than we are now...wouldn't we?

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#48 Butters
February 02 2014, 12:05PM
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What happens if/when we trade Gagner and the Oilers still suck? Who do we run our of town next?

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#49 Serious Gord
February 02 2014, 02:00PM
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Jordan Nugent-Hallkins wrote:

I feel like the organization itself is toxic. They need to go total scorched earth: fire everyone. All the coaches, obviously Lowe, completely remove the position of POHO, let the GM have full control.

I'm willing to give MacT a little more time, he's shown he's at least capable of making moves and recognizing team needs.

Please see the list of MacT's errors thusfar futher back in this thread and get back to me on your BOLD assertion that "...he's shown he's at least capable of making moves and recognizing team needs."

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#50 6 ring circus
February 01 2014, 03:18PM
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Lowe: Hi Daryl, we lost again today,4-0 to Boston. Katz: Inst that a coincidence,I was just watching reruns of the 1990 Boston- Edmonton Stanley cup finals,Peter Klima,he scored one heck of a goal in triple overtime: were is he anyways?I think he would be a great addition to management or he could help out Bucky and Smith,What do you think? Lowe:He knows a thing or two about winning, not as much as me of course,but then who does? Katz:Oh Kevin, we do not need to go over this again,your my man and it doesn't matter how poorly the team does,you will be the POHO for as long as I own the team,plus your one of the FOK's and the more FOK heads we have, the better our chances of icing a good team,so give that Peter Klima dude a call,I am going to help Junior pick out his suit for the NHL draft, we are going to be picking top 3 again this year and me and JR love going up on that stage, maybe another number one overall pick will be in the cards!!!!

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