Unacceptable

Jonathan Willis
February 01 2014 01:58PM

Without superhuman goaltending from Ben Scrivens (and he was just fine in today's loss) the Edmonton Oilers were on the wrong end of a 4-0 score against Boston. They were outshot, outchanced, somehow outhit despite never having the puck and flat-out out-played.

The Last Two Games

 

Edmonton has allowed 100 shots over its last two contests. They have matched up against the NHL's powers and been found not just wanting but humiliatingly, embarassingly unable to even put in a respectable showing. Team Switzerland has been more competitive in Olympic matches against Team Canada.

The scoring chances today paint an ugly picture of an outsmarted, outskilled and outworked team:

The Problems

 
The problems are myriad. Let's take a quick walk-through:

  • The powerplay. A strength as recently as a year ago - with much the same cast of players - it has devolved into a terrible weakness. Boston outchanced Edmonton 2-0 during Oilers powerplays today, and after a decent start to the night a first period power play sucked whatever energy the team had out of them. This one is on the coaching staff.
  • The Oilers had a top-10 penalty kill a year ago. This year, they sit 17th in the NHL, and they allowed two goals on five opportunities against the Bruins. The cast may even be improved from last season - this one too is on the coaches.
  • The top line. A year ago, the top line was an undisciplined run-and-gun trio that outshot and outchanced the opposition. This year, it's an undisciplined run-and-gun trio that gets badly outshot and outchanced by the opposition.
  • Sam Gagner. Just that.
  • The defence. This one is on the current general manager to some degree, and on the one before him to a much larger degree. A year ago, Nick Schultz and Justin Schultz were in over their heads as the Oilers' second pair. Currently, they're in over their heads as the Oilers' top pair. Andrew Ference and Jeff Petry have good points, but they're being asked to play at levels well beyond their ability to handle. Rookie Martin Marincin is in the top-four on merit. Mark Fraser is just the latest addition to a forgetable group of bottom-pairing blue liners that have demonstrated little beyond an ability to get lit up in the NHL.

Today's loss is yet another in a long series of humiliating low points for the Oilers. There is no excuse. It cannot be allowed to continue. This team desperately needs to turn things around, and soon. Maybe that means reworking the coaching staff so that new assistants can add some outside insight during an Olympic break reworking of team strategy - and provide better support for a rookie head coach. Maybe it means replacing Dallas Eakins with a veteran NHL bench boss.

Maybe it means more than that, or that and more than that. But this team cannot continue as-is. 

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Jonathan Willis is a freelance writer. He currently works for Oilers Nation, Sportsnet, the Edmonton Journal and Bleacher Report. He's co-written three books and worked for myriad websites, including Grantland, ESPN, The Score, and Hockey Prospectus. He was previously the founder and managing editor of Copper & Blue.
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#101 Oilcruzer
February 01 2014, 03:45PM
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In other news...

Vancouver has won 3 of its last 10. One win over a playoff team in last 18.

This year for the Oil is awful, so I guess there's always Schadenfreude.

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#102 bazmagoo
February 01 2014, 03:49PM
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Eakins and the coaching staff are out of their league, in my opinion. But I think the best we can hope for next season is Smith and Bucky to be gone, with Dallas given the option of bringing in his own people.

Not sure why everyone is so annoyed by today's game. What did you expect? My expectations are pretty LOWE these days.

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#103 Bonvie
February 01 2014, 03:49PM
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hark65 wrote:

Yak is part of the "defence sucks" problem. Doesn't have a clue where his own end is or what to do when he get in it.

Exactly same with Hemsky zero back checking pressure by these wingers just let guys stroll into the offensive zone without putting pressure on them. Yak lets Hamilton stroll by on the goal he scored, it all started out by the blue line a bit of back check and pressure to take away time and space would have made all the difference instead Hamilton strolls down into the Oilers zone like hes playing in a rec game.

Exact same thing observed by Hemsky on i believe it was the 3rd goal at the blue line the puck carrier skates right by Hemsky without any effort from him to battle for the puck or play physical.

This is a very stark difference between Boston who took away time and space from our Offensive players all game long, and made quality scoring chances so scarce to come by.

I wonder about those who have to ask why Yak may have been benched. I have seen better back checking pressure in celebrity charity games.

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#104 Wow
February 01 2014, 04:36PM
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What more can you say about Gagner?

The thing I would LOVE,LOVE,LOVE to hear is someone in the Media asking Eakins to explain how this 4.8 million dollar failure doesn't qualify for the "accountability" program.

You remember the one, Dallas...I believe the quote was: "Look, I don't care when you were drafted or what your contract is..."

Well,Dallas, please explain this to Oiler fans.

Just a guess, but I bet there are Oiler players who would love to hear the answer on this one,too.

Accountability? What a joke that is...

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#105 dougtheslug
February 01 2014, 04:41PM
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Ivan Drago wrote:

This is a flipping joke right?

It's a copy and paste from one of NewAgeSstem's many equally unreadable posts from last year. An attempt at comic relief, methinks, on such a depressing day.

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#106 dougtheslug
February 01 2014, 04:53PM
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@Oilanderp wrote:

When a bad team plays a bad game against a great team that plays a good game, results like these occur.

No need for anyone to lose their minds over it, or make knee-jerk reactions.

The only thing to do right now is go over the "tape" and work on cutting those things out in practice over and over until they're gone. Practice and repeat until good habits are muscle memory.

Is just a game. Why you heff to be medd?

With all due respect, I think the problems with this team aren't going to be fixed by "practicing good habits".

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#107 Drowning in Oil
February 01 2014, 05:01PM
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@Oilanderp wrote:

I used to think it was the DJ's fault, but now I am pretty convinced that it's the fault of the guy who buys the hockey tape. That tape is too slippery. Pucks just fly right off of it. FIRE THAT GUY RIGHT NOW!!!!

Have you noticed that the players skates don't seem to be tightened enough.

That's the guy to blame.

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#108 Spydyr
February 01 2014, 05:23PM
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otter2233 wrote:

Anyone else miss Ralph Krueger?

The special teams sure do.

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#109 **
February 01 2014, 05:25PM
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those 3 in the picture are problems alright

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#110 Ivan Drago
February 01 2014, 05:28PM
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Spydyr wrote:

If they keep Eakins and allow him to pick his assistant coaches how many more ex- Marlies would the team have then?

I don't generally agree with you very often, but on this one I do wholeheartedly.

First off I have believe MacT will improve this team, hes a rookie gm who has imo made more good moves then bad. However, do we even have a pro scouting staff, or does he just ask Eakins who to sign and trade for?

Second, enough excuses have been made for Gagner, he's a one trick pony. Puts up pts when playing with other good players, but brings NOTHING else to the table. Time to go snowpants.

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#111 Rick Stroppel
February 01 2014, 05:56PM
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Ivan Drago wrote:

I don't generally agree with you very often, but on this one I do wholeheartedly.

First off I have believe MacT will improve this team, hes a rookie gm who has imo made more good moves then bad. However, do we even have a pro scouting staff, or does he just ask Eakins who to sign and trade for?

Second, enough excuses have been made for Gagner, he's a one trick pony. Puts up pts when playing with other good players, but brings NOTHING else to the table. Time to go snowpants.

ONE SIMPLE QUESTION

I just have one question and I REALLY hope someone can answer it for me:

IF MACTAVISH HAS MADE MORE GOOD MOVES THAN BAD MOVES, WHY IS THE TEAM IN SECOND LAST PLACE?

PS: MacTavish went back to work for the Oilers in the spring of 2012. He has only been GM for about 9 months but he has been "reconnected" with the organization for almost two years. This is the new "Oilers way": ignore incompetence and/or make excuses for it.

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#112 Rick Stroppel
February 01 2014, 06:33PM
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Ivan Drago wrote:

Because MacT can't go back in time. He can't fix 7 yrs of losing with one off season, when the coming season had a salary cap going down. Hes made mistakes, we all do regardless of our profession. But Perron, Gordon, Ference are all solid additions. Eakins may have been a mistake. Signing Gags was another. Using the word Bold, was prob his biggest. MacT will improve as GM with time, like most of us do when gaining experience.

Let me ask this, what has MacT done or not done to show he is incapable of turning this around? I'd love to hear from all you armchair gm's who played Jr B and think they know it all.

OK, I'LL BITE

What has MacTavish done to show he is NOT capable of turning this around:

1. Firing Kreuger and hiring Eakins on a whim.

2. Not replacing the assistants.

3. Grebeshkov.

4. Belov.

5. Further to 4 and 5, totally failing to provide the team with NHL quality defense.

6. Labarbera.

7. Bryzgalov.

8. Further to 6 and 7 (and keeping in mind that one great game does not make an NHL career) totally failing to provide the team with NHL quality goaltending.

9. Gagner contract.

10. Total clown show at the draft, resulting in no goalie prospects drafted.

11. Merrily trading away draft choices when the team is supposed to be rebuilding.

I am sure I missed some but I am tired.

PS : We are all "armchair GM's", and it is fun, that is why we read and write these posts!

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#113 max
February 01 2014, 08:01PM
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2 questions 1-Jets were slumping, obviously didn't get along with the coach - new one hired, Jets soar. Could a respected NHL proven coach help the Oilers? I think yes. 2-Why do the Oilers players think it's okay to have their goalie face almost 100 sots in 2 games? I think they don't care any more.

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#114 Rick Stroppel
February 01 2014, 08:28PM
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Rick Stroppel wrote:

SHOULD ALL THE COACHES BE FIRED NOW?

Jonathan, you seem to imply that the coaches should all be fired now. If so, I disagree. You may be craving a Winnipeg Jets style bounce. I do not think that would help in the long run. Hiring a new head coach is often like eating a big chocolate bar: you get a big burst of energy followed by a let down. Look at Buffalo.

How much do any of us know about what is going on behind the scenes? People are ready to fire many of these guys because they don't like their facial expressions during the game. For all we know, maybe SOME of them are actually good at what they do.

Somebody has to coach the team between now and the end of the season. The franchise is reeling from crisis to crisis. The LAST thing they need is Lowe and MacTavish hiring people hastily, out of a limited pool, based on somebody's misguided hunch. Plenty of time to do an honest assessment in the summer. Have a REAL search to fill these positions, like REAL NHL teams do.

ON SECOND THOUGHT

I just checked the box score for today's game. RNH had 25.51 TOI! More than any defenseman on the Oilers (by almost four minutes).

What is the point of this? What exactly are the Oilers playing for right now? Why isn't Yakupov getting more of a look?

Does anyone remember RNH's first game back from injury? Eakins played the hell out of him that night as well, for no apparent reason. Some reporter rudely asked him why he did that. Eakins made some smart-ass reply like "all players want more ice time".

Is it possible that Eakins is so incompetent that he cannot keep track of the ice time of key players? But hey, his hair is FANTASTIC!

I changed my mind. FIRE EAKINS NOW!p

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#115 madjam
February 01 2014, 11:04PM
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admiralmark wrote:

Oh look it's the annual "Lets get rid of the coach" group out in full force. If these guys had it their way we would fire the coach twice each season.

Here's a thought.. OILERS DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TALENT! Mull it over a bit maybe it will sink in where the problem truly lies? But i doubt it.

And who is responsible for that talent ? Not the players , and the coaching is not doing a stellar job with the talent we do have . Coaching is also a problem , yet you don't see it obviously .

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#116 seanjohn667
February 02 2014, 05:54AM
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cccsberg wrote:

As they say, the proof is in the pudding. All this "great talent" is second worst in the league and heading to the bottom. Sure there are some very talented players, and sure coaching may be (?) a problem, but when you start with a dysfunctional "team", with a bunch of overpaid prima donnas who don't want to/can't play even the basics consistently, do you really think its JUST the coaching?

Just because someone was first overall doesn't guarantee anything. Players have to continue to develop and grow into the NHL game...

8 pts in any game is great, but a career isn't a single game. What has he done since /lately? Past, one-time glory is meaningless unless you can follow it up...

Money in the WJCs? That's about the same level he's providing now. Unfortunately this isn't Juniors, though some nights you'd think many of the Oilers still think it is...

See above comment about "8 pts", though Scrivens does seem to be playing well so far. Unfortunately he's UFA and highly doubtful he'll re-sign unless management shows they are serious about correcting the team's major issues.... (team defence)

Different team...

Why do you think he refused to honour the draft and sign with one of the best teams in the league? Perhaps he knew he was crap on defence and still wouldn't be playing? You really REALLY think that was a coup?

Right.

Rookie, hope he turns out in a couple years. Once he and some other prospects are ready for the big show the Oilers can claw their way out of the basement...

Summary, yes there is talent, but that talent isn't good enough and some significant pieces need to be moved to get a better balanced core.

they have a bad mix of talent, but to give coaching a pass for this year's debacle is self delusion. Coaching counts. if it didn't, Hitchcock and Babcock wouldn't have 7 figure salaries. Will Eakins eventually become a good coach, in time for next year? maybe, probably not. but, is it smart management to treat your coach the same way you treat an 18 year old prospect? do you hire a coach for what he might become? No.

Mact blew it. all he has now is hope that this works out. If I'm a betting man, I predict that, after next season is completely wasted (by Xmas), Mact admits his mistake and goes behind the bench.

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#117 oilcountryforlife
February 02 2014, 07:01AM
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beloch wrote:

The 2014 pick is looking pretty sweet right about now. What they heck. Cash it in.

The 2015 1st round pick? Trade it.
The 2016 1st round pick? Trade it.
The 2017 1st round pick? Trade it.

Burn the ships to show the troops that retreat is not an option. Use those picks to bring back some hard-working defensively responsible players with good work-ethics and decent contracts. To get all that, these guys may not be as offensively flashy as you'd hope to get for 1st rounders, but the goal is to make those crap first rounders.

Next:

-Bench any forward who cherry-picks while the opposing team has possession.
-If Gagner wasn't cherry-picking, bench him anyways for having the most ironic name in the NHL.
-Bag skate. Bag skate. Bag skate.
-Blast off and nuke Lowe from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
-Tell the kids that they're no longer kids with great potential. They're adults who are failing because they're slacking off.
-Ask the players to donate half their salary to charity and apologize to all of Edmonton for not doing more to earn it. Maybe class and accountability can start off the ice.
-If the team doesn't have a sports psychologist, hire one.
-If the team does have a sports psychologist, fire him.
-Terminate Eakins' command with extreme prejudice.
-Pay the ice girls to follow Hall, Nuge, Eberle, etc. around during commercial breaks while saying things like, "Gee you guys are slacking off tonight!" or "Poor baby. Want me to beat him up for you?"
-Save every sweater fans throw on the ice and hang them up in the dressing room. Let the team burn one each time they win four games in a row.
-Instruct hotels used by the team that alcohol is off the room-service menu and send the whole damned team to AA.
-Borrow a hard-hat from the Flames. Leave it hanging on the wall unless somebody earns it.
-Take the 'C' away from Ference. It goes on the wall next to the hard-hat until somebody starts earning the hard-hat on a regular basis.
-Have the video room guys splice scenes from "Rocky" into the review tapes.
-Put the damned Gretzky pictures back in the dressing room.

Your "burn the ships to show that there is no retreat" comment is your best one of this post, for sure. No point hanging on losses and playing for a draft pick....who does that?!

Oilers fans are paying money not for a promise of tomorrow, but for today....perhaps as fans we could go to a game and if the Oilers win, we will pay a certain percentage of the ticket value at the final buzzer, if they lose, another percentage, if they suck, no cost for the fan (and get refund on parking, and food vouchers for the snack shop for next time).

Fire Lowe! Change the manners and the message from the top down. Oh wait, Katz is at the top and he is pushing the same, "Be patient" mantra. Crap! Guess he doesn't see a problem!

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#118 Lower than lowe
February 02 2014, 09:50AM
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As a lifelong fan why do I want my team to lose every game? Odd.

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#119 @Oilanderp
February 02 2014, 10:55AM
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This article should have been titled: Incromulence.

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#120 Loweblows
February 02 2014, 11:47AM
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After Buffalo beats us on Tuesday I wonder if that will be enough to get rid of this clown Eakins. Ever since the swarm debacle I have been posting every day that Eakins is a disaster. The longer he stays the deeper the damage.

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#121 bazmagoo
February 02 2014, 11:48AM
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Well as depressing as it is to admit, having Eakins behind the bench will likely lead to getting Ekblad who is undoubtedly the best defence prospect in this years draft. If the Oilers wait until next season to get rid of this dummy it's going to be too late though and we will end up missing the playoffs for 9 straight seasons, if not more. As many other posters have pointed out, it doesn't take a legitimate NHL coach years to right a sinking ship, it only takes days/weeks. Fire Eakins MacT, or dig your own grave. Carry water, chop wood!

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#122 Rod from Viking
February 02 2014, 03:07PM
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@Randaman

Exactly, you would hope a decent scouting staff would realize that, I still remember the TSN insiders were shocked with the Oiler picks

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#123 Air on Egg blood
February 01 2014, 02:05PM
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JW, that power play is a disgrace. Guy Boucher was not too succesful in his tenure as the head coach of the lightning, but he is a power play master mind. Don't you think he would be a wonderful associate coach for Eakins? He's got NHL experience, but not too much, so he wouldn't cast too big a shadow over Eakins. He is working in some swiss league right now, so he's sorta available. Whar do you think?

P.S. Bruins GM Chiarelli is a Genius. Sigh.

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#124 TeddyTurnbuckle
February 01 2014, 02:16PM
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Some people want Hall on the half boards instead of Nuge because he is more of a threat to shoot. David Staples tonight was a perfect example why Taylor can't play the position. He may have a hard shot and is a great skater but his decision making is below the NHL average until he matures as a player. He gave the puck away on the offensive end tonight at least 5 times,

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#125 #ThereGoesTheOilers
February 01 2014, 02:21PM
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If at first things dont go your way, try try again? Yeah, that doesn't work if you're doing it WRONG in the first place.

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#126 Alsker
February 01 2014, 02:41PM
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@dougtheslug

Well my guess on Arco is Eakins and MacT had had enough of his effort, physical play and heart making others look bad. ~Definite dressing room issue taken care.~ As for Oiler hockey, MacT went out his way telling us snowpants was everything in an Oiler: ability,skill,character...umm you're right, what is Oiler hockey?

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#127 Dave
February 01 2014, 03:13PM
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The good news is that the colors of this site officially were adopted by the team today.

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#128 Cynic
February 01 2014, 03:19PM
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Shooled by a real team.

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#129 toprightcorner
February 01 2014, 03:24PM
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Rick Stroppel wrote:

SERIOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT GAGNER

I honestly don't know the answers to these questions. Is his NTC reduced to writing in his contract? Does the NTC remain in effect for the last two years of his contract if he is traded? If so, he is basically untradeable. A team looking at the long term will simply wait for the summer hoping to get him on the cheap after a compliance buy-out. A team looking for short-term help will not want any part of that contract with a NTC.

Can the Oilers trade him and agree to pay part of his contract? Does this count against the cap?

Sorry about the silly questions and thanks for the answers.

Gagner's NMC is only for 14/15 (cap geek)though MacT verbally agreed to a NMC for this year as well. Though it sounds like Gagner will approve a trade for the most part.

MacT can trade him and retain up to 50% of his salary that WILL count against the cap though you can only do this for 3 contracts at time.

Gagner is getting tons of ice time to showcase him but it is making him look worse. I think it would be smarter to sit him for 2 games and then drop him to the 3rd line for a few games in hopes Hendricks will rub off on him or stick him on the 4th line, either way he needs to earn his spot. Quinn and Renny both did that and he responded well and moved up the depth chart.

If Gagner knows he will be traded he has no reason to play hard cause he doesn't care what the return is.

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#130 Show me da Money
February 01 2014, 03:44PM
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Ivan Drago wrote:

This is a flipping joke right?

I think that his RETURN key is broken.

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#131 Eulers
February 01 2014, 03:48PM
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We could rename the team the

Edmonton Coach-Killers

If you can't strike fear in the opposition, at least scare the coaches!!

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#132 Mason Storm
February 01 2014, 04:06PM
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Ivan Drago wrote:

This is a flipping joke right?

Was this Eakins sales pitch?

Actually meant for Otis and his 2012 rant. Sorry.

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#133 Oiler Al
February 01 2014, 04:08PM
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Show me da Money wrote:

I think that his RETURN key is broken.

No its not a joke, its only The New Age System, back home from the asylum.

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#134 billythebullet
February 01 2014, 04:56PM
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While this 4-0 drubbing was taking place I was at my sons novice hockey game. I tend to think that the 7-8 yr olds I watched today have more heart then the oilers.

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#135 Andrew
February 01 2014, 05:30PM
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You're preaching to the choir brother. You have certainly captured the essence of the problem. The Oilers have taken me beyond caring any longer. The emotional investment has been drained. This team as it is constructed is done like dinner. I don't think Mac has any intention of doing what really needs to be done. Nor do I believe he has the cajones for making fhe right moves. The top 6 can not continue to be the next generation of sacred cows. The Oilers organization is full of them.

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#136 Rod from Viking
February 01 2014, 06:01PM
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Yakapov doesn't get a sniff on the power play or hardly any ice time, Gagner and Ference were horrible and I am so sick of seeing all the minutes Ryan Smyth is getting, he was good but now you have to line him up with a ad on the boards to tell if he was moving. I bet Scrivens can hardly wait to put ink on a new contract with this team.

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#137 hall the time
February 01 2014, 06:22PM
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@Ivan Drago

I'm on MacT's side for now but this coaching thing is having me second guess him a lot.

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#138 Doctor Smashy
February 01 2014, 07:04PM
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For some reason I had never bothered to look. Eakins coached the Marlies for 4 years. 2 years out of the playoffs, then lost in the final, then lost in the second round. Career AHL record - 157 - 114. That is 48 - 34 over an 82 games schedule. MacT wet his pants over that?!

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#139 Chambers
February 01 2014, 07:28PM
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Rick Stroppel wrote:

OK, I'LL BITE

What has MacTavish done to show he is NOT capable of turning this around:

1. Firing Kreuger and hiring Eakins on a whim.

2. Not replacing the assistants.

3. Grebeshkov.

4. Belov.

5. Further to 4 and 5, totally failing to provide the team with NHL quality defense.

6. Labarbera.

7. Bryzgalov.

8. Further to 6 and 7 (and keeping in mind that one great game does not make an NHL career) totally failing to provide the team with NHL quality goaltending.

9. Gagner contract.

10. Total clown show at the draft, resulting in no goalie prospects drafted.

11. Merrily trading away draft choices when the team is supposed to be rebuilding.

I am sure I missed some but I am tired.

PS : We are all "armchair GM's", and it is fun, that is why we read and write these posts!

Excellent post!!!

6 Rings + Rookie GM + Rookie coach = 29th place.

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#140 Bryzarro World
February 01 2014, 08:30PM
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Retsinnab5 wrote:

Our Defence sucks, Our PP sucks and Our first line is having a bad game.

What does Dallas Eakins do?

He decides to bench Yak. What an Idiot!

Gregor and Zarny will tell you the coach makes no difference. I shake my head everytime I hear some fool spew that crap.

Some are just afraid to lose their press pass so they bag lick, others are just tools...

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#141 Show me da Money
February 01 2014, 08:49PM
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max wrote:

2 questions 1-Jets were slumping, obviously didn't get along with the coach - new one hired, Jets soar. Could a respected NHL proven coach help the Oilers? I think yes. 2-Why do the Oilers players think it's okay to have their goalie face almost 100 sots in 2 games? I think they don't care any more.

Answer to question 1, probably.

Answer to question 2, not only do we have a terrible defense but our offensive players don't/won't or haven't been taught how to help their defense men.

If the forwards would come back more often to help out the defense things might not be so hard on our goalies or our AHL quality defense.

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#142 kale
February 01 2014, 08:51PM
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dougtheslug wrote:

Bruce McCurdy, in "Cult of Hockey" wrote (in his evaluation of todays game)....

"#89 Sam Gagner, 2 (out of 10). He kept catching my eye in a bad way. Last guy back over his own blueline time and again, taking bad routes to the puck, doing flybys instead of skating through the man. Those bad habits caught up with him twice and he’s got a nice shiny -2 to prove it. First on that wraparound goal, when any sort of aggressive stand against Hamilton on the far side of the net might have got the job done; instead, it was 89, and the puck was in the net. This on a sequence that began with a weak clearance by Gagner into the neutral zone that had the Bruins re-engaging with speed. Minutes later, he was the last guy floating back over his own blueline when a stray puck went right through the middle (a.k.a. “centre”) of the zone to the goal scorer. Was also one of the defensive culprits on the disallowed goal, losing his man in front and stranding himself in the middle of nowhere. Despite playing hardly at all against Boston’s defensive ace Chara, he did little enough with the disc on his blade, getting one half-chance in the third but on the continuation failing to shoot, pass or stickhandle and being dispossessed of the puck. Later had a brutal turnover right in the middle of his own slot. Engaged in one good d-zone sequence early in the third when his line got owned all the same, and a couple of OK o-zone moments when separated from his usual linemates. About this >

And just for that, Yak gets bench, that's accountability

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#143 madjam
February 01 2014, 08:56PM
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How can we justify management and coaching getting better and they deserve more time ? In the AHL Calgary sits in 3rd and we are 14th , and the worst club has 2 games in hand to drop us back to last . We were ahead of Calgary last year , but are falling further and further behind them as the season wears on . We get rid of Horcoff and Smid for nothing , among others . Their replacements have all faired worse . Oh yeah , they are turning us around all right , back the wrong way once again . The verdict is in , one good one for Perron does not make up for the many mistakes that are being made otherwise . Management and coaching are responsible for quality control and we are not getting it .

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#144 K_Mart
February 01 2014, 09:01PM
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I can't believe I'm saying this... But it's coaching. What system are they playing?!?!

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#145 bwar
February 01 2014, 09:03PM
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My favorite part was how Eakins made no effort to keep the team in the game today. The strategy seemed to be try to not lose in an embarrassing fashion. The Oilers had zero offense and absolutely no adjustments were made during the game to even attempt to solve this blatant deficiency. One of the critical lines to the victory over San Jose was broken up and then even when the team was struggling was never put back together (Jones-Gordon-Hendricks). Yes they did have one shift together but that was a product of getting lines back in order after a series of PK/PP time.

Perron also had a very poor game yet when it came time for Eakins to show the team that they needed to be 'accountable' Yakupov was the guy who sat a few shifts. It really is starting to feel like Eakins has no clue what he is doing. This team was much better off with Krueger last season.

Scrivens was the only bright light from todays game but he could only keep this joke of a team in the game for so long.

Oilers get your siht together please.

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#146 Oiler Al
February 01 2014, 09:21PM
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I have no argument with the out pourings of Gagners poor play on the team and his lack of effort etc etc., however, if Gagner was the only problem on this team we would have won this game. Its deeper than NO. 89 by a long strech.

Out Number 1 line could not muster a point and gave the puck away all day long. Lets tryig focusing on these high paid , big minute players that didnt show up for the game today.

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#147 Show me da Money
February 01 2014, 09:43PM
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kale wrote:

And just for that, Yak gets bench, that's accountability

The difference being that they are probably shopping Gagner and not Yak but shopping Gagner is a Catch 22. The more opposing GMs see him the less value he has.

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#148 Rick Stroppel
February 01 2014, 09:57PM
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APROPOS OF NOTHING: BOB STAUFFER IS NOT A SMART PERSON

Somebody said that Stauffer predicted earlier this season that by February the Oilers would have caught the Avalanche in the standings.

I just did the math. Colorado 33 points ahead of Edmonton. Edmonton wins their four games left in February, Colorado loses their three games, we are only 25 points behind! Missed by THAT much!

I don't listen to phone in shows. Someone who does, could you please phone the Amazing Kreskin and remind him about his prediction? Thanks!

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#149 Jason
February 01 2014, 10:31PM
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Why don't the Oilers fire a few people and then say we are starting our rebuild now. That should fool the masses

Oilers are behind every team in the NHL. If they knew what they were doing we would see some results.

Daryl when are you going to wake up.?

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#150 dougtheslug
February 01 2014, 11:00PM
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admiralmark wrote:

Oh look it's the annual "Lets get rid of the coach" group out in full force. If these guys had it their way we would fire the coach twice each season.

Here's a thought.. OILERS DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TALENT! Mull it over a bit maybe it will sink in where the problem truly lies? But i doubt it.

As a founding member of the "Let's get rid of the coach" group, I have to clarify that if we had our way, we wouldn't even fire the coach once a season, if that coach proved he was even remotely competent.

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