THE MUIR IMAGE

Lowetide
February 14 2014 08:38PM

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Aidan Muir isn't scoring. Muir (just getting up in photo after scoring a brilliant goal) plays in the USHL, and the scouting report is interesting. Except he isn't scoring. And that's bad.

Aidan Muir scored a brilliant goal earlier this season, but he hasn't scored enough of them. Let's start with a description of the player.

Chris Dilks Muir is a 6’3″ 180 lbs. power forward. He’s a decent skater for his size, though there is still some room for improvement. With his frame, there’s also the potential to add a little more strength. His biggest attribute is his grit and toughness in the dirty areas of the ice along the boards and in front of the net, and that he has the hands to make plays in tight spaces. He’s also a very high energy player and a tireless worker. I’d begin looking at selecting Muir somewhere in the late third to early fourth round of the draft, though wouldn’t be shocked a team was interested in him even earlier than that.

Muir was selected 113th overall in the 2013 NHL Entry Draft. I'm of the opinion that anyone chosen outside the first three rounds (90 picks) should be considered an extreme long shot for NHL employment. The information above is interesting—it tells us about the player and his speed, size and toughness.

There's not a thing about his offense. That's why this season is so interesting for Muir. Scott Reynolds at Copper and Blue tells us that a USHL player should bring 27% of his offense with him to the NHL (should he make it). That's about the same as NHLE allows for the QMJHL, so we know it's a good league.

  • Muir's boxcars: 36GP, 11-11-22

Hmmm. That's not a terrific number. Muir is tied for 75th in USHL scoring. Greg Chase, drafted 75 spots later than Muir, is 20th in WHL scoring (the dub is considered a better league).

  • Muir's NHL equivalency: 82GP, 7-7-14

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

MOTORBIKE

Scouting is a helluva tough thing to do, and we know this because history teaches us as much. One thing I've observed over the years is when NHL teams go 'walkabout' from established leagues and draft lists things can go sideways in a hurry. 

Aidan Muir is not tracking as a legit NHL prospect. The Oilers selected him outside the top 90, and that's progress. The Troy Hesketh/Cameron Abney picks are best saved for after the first three rounds each draft. 

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#1 mike
February 14 2014, 08:55PM
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Good read

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#2 Greg hill life
February 14 2014, 09:14PM
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If Aidan isn't,t careful, his career may end up where the moped driver did

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#3 Westcoastoil
February 14 2014, 09:45PM
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Has injury had an impact?

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#4 D
February 14 2014, 10:07PM
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Had to watch that .gif a few times to get the sequence. But man, it's hilarious!

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#5 Rod from Viking
February 14 2014, 10:57PM
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Is that a modern day Kamikaze wannabe?

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#6 oilers4
February 14 2014, 11:22PM
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Yup, may as well close the book on him. He is 18 years old after all. Why take a chance on a big bodied power forward when you can draft sure fire bets like Linus Omark in the 4th round instead?

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#7 Retsinnab5
February 15 2014, 01:16AM
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One of the better GIF's i've seen in a long time. Gave me a good laugh.

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#8 BLAKPOO
February 15 2014, 08:53AM
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We were saying the same things about Mitch Moroz not too long ago, and he's worked himself firmly into the conversation.

Hopefully Aidan finds his touch.

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#9 TigerUnderGlass
February 15 2014, 09:20AM
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BLAKPOO wrote:

We were saying the same things about Mitch Moroz not too long ago, and he's worked himself firmly into the conversation.

Hopefully Aidan finds his touch.

If Moroz was drafted where Muir was nobody would have said any of those things and everyone would be happy with where he is today.

Which conversation do you think he's worked himself firmly into? That he might indeed reach his ceiling of 4th line plug? That isn't what the team should be looking for in the second round.

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#10 Rama Lama
February 15 2014, 09:33AM
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That was the funniest video of a multiple accident scene I have ever seen.........must be somewhere in China?

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#11 BLAKPOO
February 15 2014, 12:42PM
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TigerUnderGlass wrote:

If Moroz was drafted where Muir was nobody would have said any of those things and everyone would be happy with where he is today.

Which conversation do you think he's worked himself firmly into? That he might indeed reach his ceiling of 4th line plug? That isn't what the team should be looking for in the second round.

The conversation where he's averaging almost a PPG in the WHL this year ( almost double his output from last year ), and showing signs of maturing into a serviceable power forward with an offensive touch. Not sure how that translates into 4th line plug.

The point being, if you draft a player for size anywhere outside the 1st round, any spot on an NHL roster is a win.

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#12 Zarny
February 15 2014, 01:03PM
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LMAO how drunk is the moped driver?

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#13 TigerUnderGlass
February 15 2014, 06:02PM
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BLAKPOO wrote:

The conversation where he's averaging almost a PPG in the WHL this year ( almost double his output from last year ), and showing signs of maturing into a serviceable power forward with an offensive touch. Not sure how that translates into 4th line plug.

The point being, if you draft a player for size anywhere outside the 1st round, any spot on an NHL roster is a win.

Why don't you take a look at some other guys who put up similar numbers 2 years post draft and tell me how great they are. 4th line plug is his upside. I'd wager Willis and Lowetide have run comparables a bunch of times by now.

It is not a win when you passed up players with a reasonable chance at becoming players who matter because you want 4th line GRRRR.

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#14 BLAKPOO
February 16 2014, 02:44AM
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TigerUnderGlass wrote:

Why don't you take a look at some other guys who put up similar numbers 2 years post draft and tell me how great they are. 4th line plug is his upside. I'd wager Willis and Lowetide have run comparables a bunch of times by now.

It is not a win when you passed up players with a reasonable chance at becoming players who matter because you want 4th line GRRRR.

•Redline Report: Big, edgy power forward plays an in-your-face style and looks to initiate hard contact all over the ice. A feared enforcer who picked up 20 fighting majors, yet skates and handles the puck well enough to take regular shifts. Coaches eventually rotated him into the top six to give scoring lines a boost – gives smaller, skilled linemates more room to work with his physicality. Has surprising offensive tools with a heavy snap shot. Puckhandling confidence is soaring and he’s willing to try things with the puck now he wouldn’t have dreamed of six months ago. Skating enables him to play in open ice and even has decent lateral agility. Spins off checks to find space and gets to open ice. Emerging force uses great size/strength to dominate below the circles and is impossible to move around crease. Development curve is heading straight up and has upside.

Never said he was Sidney Crosby, only that's he's getting the right kind of attention from the right kind of people.

You want a comparison?

Milan Lucic 2006-07 WHL Season Vancouver Giants 70GP 30G 38A 68P +32 147PIM

Mitch Moroz 2013-14 Regular Season Edmonton Oil Kings 56GP 29G 24A 53P +28 131PIM

There's your comparison.

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#15 TigerUnderGlass
February 16 2014, 05:03PM
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BLAKPOO wrote:

•Redline Report: Big, edgy power forward plays an in-your-face style and looks to initiate hard contact all over the ice. A feared enforcer who picked up 20 fighting majors, yet skates and handles the puck well enough to take regular shifts. Coaches eventually rotated him into the top six to give scoring lines a boost – gives smaller, skilled linemates more room to work with his physicality. Has surprising offensive tools with a heavy snap shot. Puckhandling confidence is soaring and he’s willing to try things with the puck now he wouldn’t have dreamed of six months ago. Skating enables him to play in open ice and even has decent lateral agility. Spins off checks to find space and gets to open ice. Emerging force uses great size/strength to dominate below the circles and is impossible to move around crease. Development curve is heading straight up and has upside.

Never said he was Sidney Crosby, only that's he's getting the right kind of attention from the right kind of people.

You want a comparison?

Milan Lucic 2006-07 WHL Season Vancouver Giants 70GP 30G 38A 68P +32 147PIM

Mitch Moroz 2013-14 Regular Season Edmonton Oil Kings 56GP 29G 24A 53P +28 131PIM

There's your comparison.

That's not a real comparison. You forgot the part where Lucic did that the year after he was drafted, rather than 2 years later, and was already in the NHL by the age Moroz is now.

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#16 Tikkanese
February 18 2014, 01:07PM
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BLAKPOO wrote:

•Redline Report: Big, edgy power forward plays an in-your-face style and looks to initiate hard contact all over the ice. A feared enforcer who picked up 20 fighting majors, yet skates and handles the puck well enough to take regular shifts. Coaches eventually rotated him into the top six to give scoring lines a boost – gives smaller, skilled linemates more room to work with his physicality. Has surprising offensive tools with a heavy snap shot. Puckhandling confidence is soaring and he’s willing to try things with the puck now he wouldn’t have dreamed of six months ago. Skating enables him to play in open ice and even has decent lateral agility. Spins off checks to find space and gets to open ice. Emerging force uses great size/strength to dominate below the circles and is impossible to move around crease. Development curve is heading straight up and has upside.

Never said he was Sidney Crosby, only that's he's getting the right kind of attention from the right kind of people.

You want a comparison?

Milan Lucic 2006-07 WHL Season Vancouver Giants 70GP 30G 38A 68P +32 147PIM

Mitch Moroz 2013-14 Regular Season Edmonton Oil Kings 56GP 29G 24A 53P +28 131PIM

There's your comparison.

So you're saying Moroz isn't Crosby per say, but is a carbon copy of Lucic? We all hope you are right, but we all know you are not.

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#17 BLAKPOO
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Tikkanese wrote:

So you're saying Moroz isn't Crosby per say, but is a carbon copy of Lucic? We all hope you are right, but we all know you are not.

Seriously?

Per Say? You didn't even spell it right. Of course he's not Crosby. There's no "Per Se" about it. And I never said Moroz was a carbon copy of Lucic. I posted some stats and a Redline Report because some other people can't recognize a player's potential or ability unless he has something to compare it to. As if you could ever really find an accurate comparison between two players ever. Is he Lucic? Is he Gazdic? Is he Guy Lafleur? No. He's Mitch Moroz.

My original statement was that Moroz has gone from a likely bust as a prospect, to a player that's impressing a lot of people with his recent play... i.e. "working himself into the conversation".

How you pulled a Crosby-Lucic hybrid out of that is mind-blowing.

Are there any intelligent posters on this site? Or just a bunch of trolls?

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