WHAT IF THEY RE-SIGNED HEMSKY?

Lowetide
February 16 2014 07:15PM

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Crazy thought. NEVER HAPPEN! And yet.....if a team has possession of a player's contract and that player's value is greater to said team than what is being offered in trade? What then? What DO you do?

Ales Hemsky is a different player than he was in 2005-06. The Oilers have their new Jacks and Kings for the feature jobs and a $5M per year contract for 83 is in the rear-view mirror.

So what?

Hemsky isn't 90 years old, he's got plenty of track left in him. The man has endured the bad times in Edmonton, why not hang around for the good days? If the Edmonton Oilers and Craig MacTavish are looking for useful NHL players to fit around their dream skilled men, why not Ales?

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This is from Extra Skater, and indicates Hemsky's 5x5 Corsi for is above average on the Oilers this season. The offense is hovering around .5 points per game and he's been playing most with Boyd Gordon, Sam Gagner and Ryan Smyth.

He's scoring well considering where he's batting in the lineup.

HE'S NOT PHYSICAL

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The Oilers are no doubt going to add some more Hendricks and Fraser's, but that doesn't mean they'll carry only size and physicality in the bottom six. Besides, if someone gets hurt among Hall, Yakupov, Eberle and Perron then 83 can slide up the depth chart with aplomb.

HE'S SOFT!

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Actually, he isn't. Hemsky isn't going to run over people, but he drives to the hard areas with the puck and doesn't back away from physical contact. It isn't his game, which is why the Oilers need to add more Grier's and Moreau's. Todd Marchant roamed happily between those two for years.

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

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The Oilers can't afford to get 50 cents on the dollar in trade and they can't afford to keep sending away actual NHL players for futures. Their cup does not runneth over with qualified NHL veterans.

Signing Ales Hemsky may well be the smart move here.

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#1 DSF
February 16 2014, 10:08PM
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@#ThereGoesTheOilers

No. I'm suggesting Kessel is a RW that Hemsky might be compared to.

The Oilers bet on the wrong nag.

Again.

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#2 nuge2nail
February 16 2014, 08:21PM
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Oiler Domination To Follow

Perron Statsny Eberle

Hall Hopkins Yakupov

Kulemin Gordon Michalek

Hendricks Boyle Glass

Robidas Hainsey

Shultz Diaz

Petry Marincin

Halak Scrivens

Let Ekblad, Nurse and Klefbom develop in the AHL properly. Let Petry and Marincin play easy minutes.

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#3 Walter Sobchak
February 16 2014, 07:48PM
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I'll keep saying this, but if you sign Hemsky on the cheap it affords the Oilers to move Peron without sacrificing much.

We all know what Hemsky is capable of, and at 29 still has years ahead of him.

Perons trade value is at an all time high, personally I think Hemsky would be more inclined to re-sign where Peron is least likely to resign.

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#4 DSF
February 16 2014, 09:11PM
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oilerjed wrote:

average

Well below average.

He has 1 assist in 3 GP.

Phil Kessel has 4 goals and 6 points in 3GP.

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#5 Johnny
February 16 2014, 09:07PM
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Hemsky is no longer an NHL player. I would place money, with odds (cause it's a little out there) that Hemsky plays in Europe next year.

The Oilers third line is better sans Hemsky. This is exactly what plagues this team...too many skilled,one-dimensional players. Having Hemsky on our third line is asinine. He changes that line from a line that grinds(Gordon, Hendricks, Jones actually looked like a third line for a bit there) to a line that does nothing!

We need more jam, and Hemsky (and Gagner) are the poster boys for what has to be changed around here.

Hemsky is finished and what a disappointment it was. You were all there, when the sky was the limit. Insert fart sound of Hemsky flubbing it at the blueline...

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#6 D-Unit
February 16 2014, 08:17PM
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Max wrote:

It would be good to re-sign him - #83 deserves to enjoy the good times after so long with the bad, same as #94 - resign him too. They may be bottom line players, but they are TRUE Oilers, and no amount of money can buy HEART. Ales can move up and down the lines as needed and Smytty protects the net like it's one of his kids - rather than wasting money on any more Frasers, Actons, Browns, Smithsons, Hordichuks, Belangers, Eagers, Larsens, Belovs etc., (the list is endless) re-sign these two at a decent price and save the big bucks for a really good player or two. Give Eakins a break and let him develop the kids and the prospects at LEAST another year and let 83 and 94 be their mentors. They have been Oilers a long time, they ARE Oilers, keep them around, they are worth holding on to.

I don't see a lot of heart from Hemsky most nights, unless by heart you mean disinterest.

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#7 DSF
February 16 2014, 07:47PM
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oilerjed wrote:

I like Hemsky, even if he is my goat this year. Can he be relied on to remain healthy for any length of time let alone in a third line role? Maybe he has finally shaken the bad luck injury bug and he's good for 4-5 more years, or maybe this is the off year to his norm and as soon as he is signed he gets creamed again. If he could stay healthy and sign cheap, I say sign him. If only there were advance stats for probability of injury. I'm pretty sure the odds would not be in his favor.

How is he doing in the Olympics against the best players in the world?

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#8 nuge2nail
February 16 2014, 08:24PM
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Oiler Domination To Follow

That lineup above gives me hope.

Defense can move the puck. Looks reliable and steady.

Forwards have depth and scoring on all lines. Top line looks formatable, Second like looks formidable, Third line looks big, Fourth line looks mean.

Goaltending is a solid as duo as you can find in the NHL.

Ott, Callahan, Moulsen, Orpiks, Downie, Stempniak, Zidlicky, Girardi, Raymond, Jagr, Markhov, Vanek, Mitchell, Greene, Boyle, Meszaros, Nikitin available that can help the oilers- be nice to see the 34+ million(39+ after the Gagner trade) spent on size and defense

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#9 LoweBlow
February 16 2014, 08:26PM
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Signing Hemsky would be the nail in the coffin.

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#10 Oiler Al
February 16 2014, 10:25PM
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Here's a guy that 29 other GM,s told you he's worth not too much,thats why he is on the Oilers team. MacT could not give him away last summer, man even Horcoff was worth something.

To, resign a player because no other team wants him is the dumbest idea Ive ever heard. Besides, as some others suggest here, Hemsky is not a third line player.You want a utility guy, then sign Jones, or get a guy like Ott.

Besides he will likely be hurt before anyone else, he who has played one complete season in 11 years.

Forget the true Oiler , and put his time in etc crap.. he was paid $38 million for his services, now move on to the KHL.

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#11 Oilerfan
February 16 2014, 09:26PM
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Once the new arena is built, all the UFAs will want to sign in Edmonton. Who wouldn't want to play in a revived downtown and a world-class city that is back on the proverbial map?

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#12 Oil Can
February 16 2014, 09:29PM
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This is unbelievable. The Oilers are the worst team in the league for the last five years, and someone writes an article to keep Hemsky or to keep Gagne, or Smyth and then all these morons coming on here and are saying oh yes we must keep all these guys (because they are good Oilers and deserve to be here when we are great) Here's a news flash for you morons, the Oilers are not great because of these guys and they are never going to be anything but cellar dwellers until these guys are gone, as well as some other moves. So quite thinking that we will just get this fantasy number 1 defenceman and we will be contenders. Let Hemsky and some of the other dead weight go, for what ever you can get, and shape this team into a harder to play against team with grit and top end skill. And that is not Hemsky, Smyth, Gagne and maybe a couple of others.

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#13 TayLordBalls
February 16 2014, 09:49PM
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LowTide - I can't believe you even suggested signing him.

Willis rates the players after the games however his ratings seem to be based on a generic player rather than individual players ranked against their ability to how they played in the game.

Hemsky does not put out near to his abilities and has dragged the entire team down.

He coasts and should have been benched long time ago until traded.

In short - he is lazy!

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#14 Soccer Steve
February 16 2014, 10:22PM
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Oil Can wrote:

This is unbelievable. The Oilers are the worst team in the league for the last five years, and someone writes an article to keep Hemsky or to keep Gagne, or Smyth and then all these morons coming on here and are saying oh yes we must keep all these guys (because they are good Oilers and deserve to be here when we are great) Here's a news flash for you morons, the Oilers are not great because of these guys and they are never going to be anything but cellar dwellers until these guys are gone, as well as some other moves. So quite thinking that we will just get this fantasy number 1 defenceman and we will be contenders. Let Hemsky and some of the other dead weight go, for what ever you can get, and shape this team into a harder to play against team with grit and top end skill. And that is not Hemsky, Smyth, Gagne and maybe a couple of others.

It's GagneR, with an R at the end. Who's the moron again?

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#15 D-Unit
February 16 2014, 07:54PM
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2 at $2.5. No more on either end.

Hope it doesn't get down to a situation where they can't get value for him, and react with an over pay or something. Please MacT don't do something dumb.

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#16 thebiggestmanintheworld
February 17 2014, 09:26AM
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A lot of Oiler fans don't deserve Hemsky.

I hope he goes to a team where he can be appreciated for what he is....a good hockey player.

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#17 Max
February 16 2014, 08:12PM
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It would be good to re-sign him - #83 deserves to enjoy the good times after so long with the bad, same as #94 - resign him too. They may be bottom line players, but they are TRUE Oilers, and no amount of money can buy HEART. Ales can move up and down the lines as needed and Smytty protects the net like it's one of his kids - rather than wasting money on any more Frasers, Actons, Browns, Smithsons, Hordichuks, Belangers, Eagers, Larsens, Belovs etc., (the list is endless) re-sign these two at a decent price and save the big bucks for a really good player or two. Give Eakins a break and let him develop the kids and the prospects at LEAST another year and let 83 and 94 be their mentors. They have been Oilers a long time, they ARE Oilers, keep them around, they are worth holding on to.

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#18 derrickhands
February 16 2014, 10:58PM
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I don't know if this piece is crazy, irresponsible, someone looking for attention, or all of the above.

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#19 Gret99zky
February 16 2014, 11:10PM
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Oh ya.

Let's sign Hemmer, Smyth, N.Schultz, etc.

Sign them all.

Then expect different results.

Because Oiler Fans.

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#20 Rdubb
February 17 2014, 07:26AM
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Hemsky wants what Horc got, A NEW START on a NEW TEAM, period. Not to mention, it kind of seemed like you contradicted yourself in your remarks, the Oilers need size and physical play along with size, but why not sign Hemsky? Yes, Hemmer goes to the hard areas and takes a ton of hits, always has and I am guessing always will, but just because you take a ton of hits doesn't mean one is physical, I think it just means that he is brave, and NUTTS because he isn't physical...but good on him for playing like that. It is my opinion that Hemsky won't sign for 3rd line money, especially in Edmonton. His NHL years are coming to an end due to his play, and I am guessing he wants to win, not play on a building team. I think by the time this team becomes consistently good (if they even do in the next 4-6 years), Hemsky's career will be over, so as a Player, why hang around? There are only a few reasons to; a) you love the organization and the guys you play with b) you love the city c) your wife family is from there d) you kids are settled and entrenched in school in said city e) you grew up cheering for said team f) you are from said city... from what I understand, none of the above pertain to Hemsky... Just my thoughts Peck

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#21 DoubleJ
February 17 2014, 07:37AM
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Westcoastoil wrote:

If you are comparing Hemsky to Kessel (one if the top scoring wingers in the league the last few years) then that's on you. You made that comparison no one else did. And if you're evaluating Oly points as the determinative measure of a player then your also saying Hemsky = Crosby. In which case "good grief".

Hemsky has one assist. If average points for a 5 million dollar player in the Olympics is 1 point. I think were all doing bad math. Everyone is going to bring up other players doing just as bad. That's not the point. Hemsky needs a new home. Period. Lets sign a guy who plays 50% of the games healthy. And plays 10 % hurt and ineffective.(Most of the old timers on here call him a warrior for playing hurt and ineffective) and is IR for the rest of the games. I swear he's teaching Eberle all his bad habits.

Time to move on.

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#22 nuge2nail
February 17 2014, 10:07AM
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Ca$h-Money! wrote:

Are you under the impression no other team gets to sign free agents? You actually think we can sign 9 guys to reasonable contracts on July 1 (the majority of these guys will sign within the first couple of days).

Seriously, do you actually believe this? Because that's insane.

Oiler Domination To Follow

There's tons of players to choose from:

Ott, Callahan, Moulsen, Orpiks, Downie, Stempniak, Zidlicky, Girardi, Raymond, Jagr, Markhov, Vanek, Mitchell, Greene, Boyle, Meszaros, Nikitin available that can help the oilers.

34+ million(39+ after the Gagner trade).

Statsny at 7mil.

Michalek at 4mil.

Kulemin at 3mil.

B Boyle at 3mil.

Glass at 3mil.

Robidas at 5mil.

Hainsey at 4mil.

Diaz at 3mil.

Halak at 5mil.

Adds up to 37 million- overpaying for each player- but who cares. You can replace guys like Boyle and Glass with stemniaks, etc.

Just saying lots of cap space and lots of quality Ufa's out there this year.

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#23 Fresh Mess
February 17 2014, 08:44AM
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Gret99zky wrote:

Oh ya.

Let's sign Hemmer, Smyth, N.Schultz, etc.

Sign them all.

Then expect different results.

Because Oiler Fans.

Don't you understand, the beliebers here at ON 'see something' in the oiler players that the rest of the hockey world can't see. These true fans argued vehemently that the recent contracts given to Hemmer and Gags were good asset managment. How can you argue with those results? You must not be a true fan.

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#24 ryan
February 17 2014, 11:17AM
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I agree 100 % we can't keep trading nhl players for nothing. I sign hemsky all day long at 3 million per season

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#25 DSF
February 16 2014, 07:23PM
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The Oilers also can't keep overpaying players who are batting .250.

See Gagner, Sam for reference.

If Hemsky is willing to accept 3rd line money in keeping with his role on the team, then sign him up for another 3 years at $3M.

If he wants a penny more...time to move on.

P.S. Chicago's entire 3rd line totals $3M.

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#26 Woodguy
February 16 2014, 07:29PM
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In regards to "tough players", former AHLer and very good hockey writer Justin Bourne (son of Bob Bourne) wrote this excellent piece a little while back:

http://blogs.thescore.com/nhl/2014/01/29/why-players-willing-to-be-first-in-on-the-puck-are-the-toughest-in-the-hockey/

Here'e my favourite part:

Hockey games are decided by five or ten plays that often come down to an inch, or a “barely.” The problem is, you rarely know when you’re in one of those moments. So all you can do is be first on the puck over, and over, and over again. The guys who commit to doing that are the league’s toughest players.

Hemsky has been among the elite in the NHL at sacrificing his body to make the play.

Its almost unthinkable that he did it night after night on awful Oilers teams that wouldn't reap the benefit of his sacrifice.

If he's willing to sign at about $3MM x 2-3 years, you should "Pay the man his phacking money"

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#27 Romulus' Apotheosis
February 16 2014, 10:14PM
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Hemsky has been nothing short of phenomenal in the Olympics. Every minute he's played he's driven the play into the offensive zone.

The entire hockey world that manages to consistently bat above mental torpor recognizes this.

I'll leave the rest of you to revel in the decision making of the Czech team and the apogee of absurd comparisons.

Re-signing him would be extremely smart. Allows you to move other assets. 3x3.

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#28 Sevenseven
February 16 2014, 07:25PM
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Yeah if we cant get something good for him, why not keep him? At a bunch less money tho.

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#29 Mr common sense
February 17 2014, 12:11AM
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Gret99zky wrote:

Oh ya.

Let's sign Hemmer, Smyth, N.Schultz, etc.

Sign them all.

Then expect different results.

Because Oiler Fans.

Lol so true

Edm fans and management are like DiCaprio in Shutter Island and the entire civilized world is the doc Ben Kingsley

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#30 Fresh Mess
February 17 2014, 10:23AM
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thebiggestmanintheworld wrote:

A lot of Oiler fans don't deserve Hemsky.

I hope he goes to a team where he can be appreciated for what he is....a good hockey player.

Yes. A good hockey player who IF healthy and given top six minutes (big ifs) can be counted on to produce a whopping 10 goals and 40 points.

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#31 Walter Sobchak
February 17 2014, 12:18PM
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Dan wrote:

Perron still has 2 more years at 3.8 million. So to think about keeping Hemsky and trading Perron is backwards. For once we have a player that is over achieving for his pay and now we better trade him. You must be Kevin Lowes backroom consultant.

In two years where are you with Peron?

If you get something (for example) Gudbranson for the next 6 years how is that moving backwards?

Actually it's the Oilers inability to move players at there peak to actually get full value for that player.

Gagner is almost at an all time low, Hemsky is also at an all time low which makes trading him for prospects ridicules at this point.

Pay attention to the article!

The ONLY player worth anything on the Oilers IS Peron, you would be the first one to bitch when they have to move Eberle who is locked up for 6 years.

Congratulations, you move Eberle for need AND lose Peron under TWO years because you trade him at the dealine when he won't resign.

That is Kevin Lowe.

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#32 bazmagoo
February 16 2014, 11:17PM
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Resigning Ales to an reasonably priced extension before the trade deadline would be a big win for the Oilers in terms of asset management. So it's pretty safe to say that it's not going to happen. He'll be traded for a 2nd round pick, aka given away at the lowest point of his career for essentially nothing.

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#33 Fresh Mess
February 17 2014, 08:21AM
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LT, there are other hockey players in the world to obsess over other than recent Edmonton Oilers. Time to let it go and move on.

IF Hemsky were willing to sign for $2,250,000 x 2 years then maybe, but why would Hemsky give up UFA status for that kind of contract? and how does retaining him fix the current losing mix of players?

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#34 Scientician
February 16 2014, 08:00PM
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If the Oilers value him more than other teams, doesn't that mean we stand a pretty good chance of signing him as a free agent (assuming he makes it to free agency)? Why not trade him and then see if he'll sign for third line dollars in the summer?

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#35 bazmagoo
February 16 2014, 11:01PM
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If the Oilers can trade Eberle or Yakupov for a legitimate #1 left sided d-man, then re-signing Ales would make an awful lot of sense. Playing Ales on our 3rd line doesn't make a tremendous amount of sense to me though. He's not a bottom 6 forward, he's a top 6 forward and has proven to be capable in that role.

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#36 bazmagoo
February 16 2014, 11:48PM
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Because the article is about asset management in relation to Hemsky, I'd like to float the following possibility

Resign Ales Hemsky to a 3 year contract at between 2.5 and 3 million per season

Trade Eberle to Colorado for Ryan O'Reilly

Trade Gagner to Toronto for Jake Gardiner

Then our top 6 would be some combination of RNH, Hall, Yak, Perron, Hemsky and O'Reilly.

Plus it would give us another legitimate defensive prospect and rid us of Gagner.

Sign Arco and Lander to 2 year 1 way deals at league min and let them fight for any spot on the roster

Fire away boys!

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#37 TeddyTurnbuckle
February 16 2014, 11:16PM
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I wouldn't resign Hemsky no matter what. I don't care if you can't get hockey tape for him we have guys down on the farm that need a chance. I like Hemsky but his time here is over. His spot needs to go to a Hendricks type of player to compliment our non physical top six. Mac T knows this and there is zero chance he will be back next year . Lets start the betting on what the return will be for him. B grade prospect or 2nd round pick I say.

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#38 Reg Dunlop
February 17 2014, 12:04AM
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What if they re-signed Hemsky? They would have a much better shot at drafting McDavid. As one of the cornerstones of the worst half decade in Oiler history, and well paid to boot, Hemsky owes us one more abysmal year in 2015. Then BOOM... Stanley Cup.

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#39 Mr common sense
February 16 2014, 09:12PM
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Why resign Alice at 2-3M when you can get Steve Ott for the same money? Ott is the body slamming grit with leadership skill we need with Gordon-Hendricks and he can slide to the wing on line 2 when we play big teams to protect the kids. Check out Ott's stats on nhl.com the last 3yrs. Golden ufa

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#40 Jofa
February 16 2014, 10:19PM
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Can't we please just move on? Both parties will benefit from a change, methinks.

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#41 Al Low
February 16 2014, 10:33PM
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It's time to change the makeup of the team. Hemsky needs to move to improve the mix of the team.

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#42 WHH
February 17 2014, 12:04AM
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If no other team wants him there is no asset to manage. Although he has scored brilliant goals, he has also floated through many games. Work ethic questionable, last on and first off. Lots of passes attempted, especially on the power play through several defenders only to have it go the other way. And the patented play of blowing down the right side only to go behind the net and out the other side to try that pass or just lose the puck. No, we do not want him teaching our young players. Time to get what we can and move on.

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#43 mlcselli
February 17 2014, 01:13AM
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I'm definitely a fan of Hemsky, but agree that he can be frustrating to watch at times. In spite of that, I would be talking to him about an extension, before everybody else with expiring contracts. We are still going to need an experienced veteran presence, and Hemsky has far greater value than he is given credit. He has been here forever, and the team is meaningful to him. He has been healthy and playing further down the lineup without complaining, Hemmer has said that he likes the city and wants to be on the Oilers roster. Let's face it, with the reputation this team has, and the rotten publicity from a very disgruntled fan base, Edmonton is not the place most players want to call home. If I am GM, keeping Hemsky here on a reasonable and fair market contract (3/3) is a must . Obviously the current contract Tambo signed him to is outrageous.

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#44 Rdubb
February 17 2014, 07:34AM
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Ca$h-Money! wrote:

Are you under the impression no other team gets to sign free agents? You actually think we can sign 9 guys to reasonable contracts on July 1 (the majority of these guys will sign within the first couple of days).

Seriously, do you actually believe this? Because that's insane.

I think you forgot to add Gagner and Petry for Yandle, so he'd be on our top pairing. Then since STL traded for Miller, we could trade Hemsky for Halak. Then, since BUF traded Miller we could trade them Bryz, N.Schultz & Gernat for Stafford and Ott. So, with Edmonton making those deals @ or before the deadline and into the summer, your line-up would be drastically changed. Come on, I think my scenario has a better chance of happening over yours... In all honesty, I think MacT & Oiler fans would be happy if we could sign 2 of the 9 you have listed.

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#45 admiralmark
February 17 2014, 12:15PM
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IF they can't get at least a 1st round pick, 2nd Pair Dman, or a solid 3rd Line player(and I mean solid). Then they should be looking to resign him.

Unlike Hemsky I expect Gagner to remain on the roster due to his horrendous play+ contract which will deter any decent trade offers. We should get comfortable with the idea of another painful season with Gagner at 2C. I'm sure they will hope he can raise his play to make him more appealing to other GM's. I guess his value can't get worse?

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#46 TKB2677
February 17 2014, 09:20AM
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Lowtide You say the Oilers can't afford to get 50 cents on the dollar. I am curious as you what exactly do you think Hemsky is truly worth?

Here's the stats on Hemsky 5 seasons including this year. 09-10 - 22GP 7G 22pts 10-11 - 47GP 14G 42pts 11-12 - 69GP 10G 36pts 12-13 - 38GP 9G 20pts 13-14 - 52GP 7G 24pts

Not exactly stats to get all excited about. This season he's now playing in a 3rd line role with PP time. I'm an Oilers fan, I bleed copper and blue like you. I have always thought that Hemsky skill wise when he wants to play is up near the top in the league. The guys CAN be crazy good. But he doesn't always bring it every night. He's practice habits or lack there of are pretty well know. Injuries haven't helped him over the years. He's on a bad hockey team but one thing I have been disappointed in is when healthy, he isn't that talented guy on a bad hockey team that rings up points. Example would be Oli Jokinen in the Panther. He was the one super talented guy on their team that put up 80-90 pt seasons. Everyone was like "imagine what he could do on a good team". Then he gets traded to a better team and suddenly, he isn't that great. Where's Hemsky's big totals? Everyone used to be "he's got no one to play with". So they are crappy, draft some very good players. Logic says that Hemsky's totals should go up because he has guys around him that actually have talent. Yet they don't. He's making 5 million this season, so his salary could be a problem for some teams.

He is a UFA so that's good. He does have talent so that is good. He is a vet so that is good. I have no doubt that he could help a playoff team and would probably be rejuvenated on a playoff team and do very well.

But honestly, what is he really worth? When you factor in 5 mill salary, plus years and years of injury/under performing seasons. What GM is going to back up the truck to give "full value" to the Oilers?

The whole resigning thing you mentioned I think is nuts. I agree that you can't keep moving NHLers for picks or prospects but at the same time if you keep bringing back the same vets from the same losing team year after year. How do you change the losing culture? How do the Oilers get bigger, meaner, more physical, harder to play against from lines 1-4 if they bring back the same guys? Changing out a could of 4th liners isn't going to do it. You have to open up roster spots to bring in new guys. How much of a pay cut is Hemsky truly going to take from the Oilers? He sure didn't take one from the last contract. 5 Mill a year for a guy coming off a 36 pt season in 69 games?? Even if he does agree to take a cut, is he going down to Boyd Gordon money for the Oilers? That's a HUGE cut. Is he willing to do that for a losing team, in a diminished role, when we said it last off season he was open to a change. Not a chance!!

IF the Oilers are EVER going to change their clearly not working forward group, at some point you have to cut the cord from a few of these guys. Even if it means they end up doing well on other teams. On the Oilers, they aren't working.

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#47 Toro
February 16 2014, 07:31PM
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Agreed with both above statements and article if your not gonna get fair value for him ie hopefully a roster player and not more draft picks then resign him if the money is right, Hemsky has been a good Oiler and deserves to be on this team when we become good again , hopefully that's sooner then later

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#48 Dave
February 16 2014, 07:37PM
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The trouble is that he will not simply be a 3rd line player. On paper - yes, that's where he would ink in. We all know that due to injury or offensive struggles in the top 6 that he's there, which is about 2/3 of a season. So what's a 1A RW or a 2A RW or a 3A RW worth? The avg of the 3 values plus a little bit, I suspect. That would respect what he really is and what he means to this team.

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#49 Rama Lama
February 16 2014, 08:17PM
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The word soloist comes to mind when describing Hemsky........which makes him a perfect fit on the third line, if he chooses to accept that.

I think DSF nailed it with his comment on the third line of Chicago.......we do not want to over pay him but I would gladly accept him in a lesser role.

The guy has finally won me over.........it only took five years!

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#50 #ThereGoesTheOilers
February 16 2014, 09:30PM
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DSF wrote:

Well below average.

He has 1 assist in 3 GP.

Phil Kessel has 4 goals and 6 points in 3GP.

I just snorted my coffee - please clarify for me, are you comparing Hemsky and Kessel for the sake of argument or are you asserting that Kessel is your measurement of 'average'??

Thank you for this daily dose of comedy.

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