GDB 59.0: A NEW FORMULA

Jason Gregor
February 06 2014 12:35PM

In theory, outshooting the opposition will increase your chances of success, but for short windows that isn't always the case. The Oilers are 4-3-1 in their last eight games. In the five games they picked up at least one point they were out shot 204-124. They gave up 16 more shots per game (40.8-24.8), but they got nine of a possible ten points.

In the three losses they outshot their opponents twice, 58-56, leaving the loss to Boston as the only game where getting outshot meant a loss.

The Oilers are bucking the shooting trend lately and seeing success, so maybe they should continue to do so, considering how well it has worked for the Toronto Maple Leafs.

For the past two seasons the Maple Leafs have continually been outshot, yet they win more than they lose, much to the chagrin of those who believe strongly in Corsi. Outshooting the opponents increases your chances of winning, unless you are the Maple Leafs.

In 58 games this season the Leafs have outshot their opponents a measly nine times and once they were tied in shots. In those ten games, the Leafs are 5-5. In the 48 games they've been outshot they are 25-17-6. For reasons unexplained their chance of success increases when they get outshot.

In 48 games last year they fired more shots than their opponent 11 times, but they had a losing record, 5-6, in those games. During the 37 games that they were outshot they went 21-11-5. Our friend Cam Charron over at Leafsnation is constantly befuddled and in awe of the trend setting Maple Leafs.

During their last 106 games they've been outshot, or tied, with the opposition 21 times. They picked up 20 points.
They were outshot in the other 85 games but they skated away with a total of 103 points.

They even continued that trend in the playoffs. They lost both games where they outshot the Bruins, but went 3-2 in the game the Bruins fired more pucks on goal.

The Oilers have two former Maple Leafs coaches on their bench, and now they have Ben Scrivens and Mark Fraser in the lineup. Maybe the Oilers are trying to become the Maple Leafs of the west; buck the shooting trend and win.

I know it is an incredibly small sample size, and the Oilers don't have a 47-year Stanley Cup drought to counter their lucky streak, but they do have the longest active streak, 8 years, with no playoffs and their Cup drought is just over half as long as the Leafs, 24. Could a get-out-shot-and-win strategy really be that bad of an idea?

I don't see why not. What's the worst thing that could happen? They stay in 29th place.

All joking aside, the Oilers have won four of their last five and the players, coaches and fans should take an ugly win over a "solid effort" loss any day. 

Seriously though, would you really care if the Oilers kept getting outshot, but went 46-28-11?

RANGERS...

The Rangers are one of those ~ boring ~ teams that consistently outshot their opponents on home ice. In 30 home games, the Rangers have only been oushot five times; however, they are only 14-13-3 at Madison Square Gardens.

Tonight could be the perfect storm for the Oilers. They face a team that likes to outshoot their opponents, but has limited success when they do it. The Rangers are 10-10-1 when firing more shots, 0-2-1 when tied in shots and 4-2 when they get outshot at MSG.

If you are playing the odds, then the Oilers game plan should be to let the Rangers outshoot them.

That might not be that difficult considering the Rangers are playing very well lately, 11-4-1 in 2014, and they are starting to feel comfortable under Alain Vigneaut. The Rangers are playing an up-tempo, fast-paced, aggressive game and it seems to mesh well with their personnel.

LINEUP....

Hall-RNH-Yakupov
Perron-Gagner-Eberle
Hendricks-Gordon-Hemsky
Gazdic-Smyth-Jones

Marincin-Petry
N.Schultz-J.Schultz
Fraser-Ference

Scrivens

Scrivens gets his 2nd start of the season at MSG. He made 37 saves in a 1-0 victory on November 17th as a member of the Kings, and he'll look to remain perfect against the Rangers.

Eberle and Yakupov have switched lines so fans get to see a line of all 1st overall picks playing together. Yakupov and Gagner have struggled as a duo, so trying something else makes sense. Jones replaces Joensuu and the defence stays the same.

QUICK HITS...

  • The Oilers and Rangers have almost identical offensive production. The Rangers are 18th in the NHL with 2.58 goals per game, while the Oilers are 19th at 2.55. The difference is goals against. The Rangers are 10th at 2.44 while the Oilers are 30th at 3.34.
     
  • The Oilers have allowed 55 more goals than the Rangers. The Oilers need a good start. They've given up the most goals in the first period, 61, while New York has had great starts in their recent 7-2 hot streak. The Rangers have scored 9 goals in the first period during those seven wins. They have 34 first period goals in their other 50 games combined.
     
  • I like Kyle Clifford as a player. I think he could help the team, but if the Oilers trade Sam Gagner for him and a pick, they will lose the trade. The pick likely will be a 2nd rounder at best, and 15% of 2nd round picks play more than 200 games. The chances of that pick panning out are slim. I understand Gagner has limitations, and his cap hit doesn't help things, but if the Oilers have to eat half or a bit less of his salary, and only get Clifford and a maybe in return, it will be hard to win that trade.

    Clifford did score 28 goals and 57 points in 58 games as a 19-year-old in the OHL, so he does have skill; however, he has 22 goals and 45 points in 253 NHL games. I know he's played essentially on the 4th line, moonlighting a bit on the 3rd and 2nd, but he would need to become one of the biggest surprises ever to become a top-six forward. I realize he would be a complimentary guy and playing with Hall, RNH or Eberle would give him more opportunities to score, but it would still be almost impossible for him to suddenly become a 40-point player.

    Last year, I wrote I'd have offer sheeted him for $1-1.5 million, because the Kings didn't have much cap space, so I do believe he would help, but not at the cost of Gagner and half of Gagner's salary.
     
  • I've said and written in the past I would sacrifice a small forward with 30-goal potential for a bigger body, who is a proven 20-goal man, but who bangs, crashes and battles. But you can't trade a 45-point player for Clifford. His best season was last year 7-7-14 in 48 games, and if you prorate he'd be a 23-point player in 82 games. I have no problem if the Oilers move a skill forward for a big body with a bit less skill, but not half the offensive production.
     
  • Nice to see Marty St.Louis make Team Canada, but I'm curious if he plays or is the 14th forward. Is Matt Duchene still the 14th guy, because he is young, or does he move up and now St.Louis is the extra body? I'm curious to see how Mike Babcock handles that situation.
     
  • Jimmy Fallon is way better than Jay Leno. The tonight show will be much better with Fallon.

TONIGHT...

***Female readers always ask why I only post pictures of attractive women, so to be fair here you go ladies. The best looking man in the NHL.***

GAME DAY PREDICTION: This is a low scoring affair, and the Oilers continue to buck the shooting trend with a 2-1 victory. Gagner scores just to add fuel to the trade speculation.

OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: The Rangers outshoot the Oilers. Scrivens has faced an average of 39 shots in his five starts with the Oilers, but tonight he gets an "easier" night facing only 36.

NOT-SO-OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: Most fans are more concerned with Gagner trade talk than that game, and they should be. Game 59 in another losing season isn't as juicy as trade rumours. The next 24 hours -- trade freeze starts tomorrow at 1 p.m. MST -- will be fun, but likely not as interesting as the stretch from February 24th to the March 05th trade deadline.

RECENTLY BY JASON GREGOR 

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One of Canada's most versatile sports personalities. Jason hosts The Jason Gregor Show, weekdays from 2 to 6 p.m., on TSN 1260, and he writes a column every Monday in the Edmonton Journal. You can follow him on Twitter at twitter.com/JasonGregor
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#51 Rick Stroppel
February 06 2014, 05:47PM
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Reg Dunlop wrote:

Can anyone explain why Hall chased the ranger D into the corner and as the D dumps the puck out Hall almost breaks an ankle stopping before he so much as touched him. AMAZING. I have never seen hockey played this way. Not even no-hit beer league. Not even women's hockey.

Maybe Hall scored before the game and didn't want to break the baggie in his pocket.

I HAVE IT ON GOOD AUTHORITY!

I heard that too. My brother-in-law's cousin's kid's teacher's friend heard it from a guy he met at the bar! IT'S GOTTA BE TRUE!

PS: And some people wonder why some UFA's are reluctant to come play in Edmonton.

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#52 Rod from Viking
February 06 2014, 07:37PM
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Don't trade anyone and extend all the FA's and assistant coaches.

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#53 pkam
February 06 2014, 07:47PM
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Wow, does JG have a crystal ball? We did win 2-1 and Rangers did put 36 shots on Scriven. And everyone is talking about the Gagner trade here. What is the chance of that?

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#54 The Soup Fascist
February 06 2014, 07:55PM
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..... And now Jason Gregor will provide the winning numbers for tomorrow's Lotto Max $40 million grand prize.

And all h-e-double hockey sticks breaks out when 237 loyal ON readers show up to each claim their share.

FFS Gregor. You are a WITCH!

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#55 Tuningout
February 06 2014, 08:06PM
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I havent watched a game since early December and things have changed according to this game.

The good

Marincin.. wow, for a kid he's good. I wish he could be a #4 next year but if he has to be 2-3 I won't be too worried.

Hall.. give this kid the C already.

Don't sign Scrivens yet... wait for him to give up a bad goal or three (sarcasm, he looks for reals)

Gagner.. looks like he tried, as did lines 3 and 4. Nothing great, but can't complain. That's good right ?

Gregor.. amazing call, great insight. Should've played poker tonight instead of writing the GDB

The bad

Hemsky.. I love this guy, and I don't want him traded, but unless they can sign him for third line money... sigh

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#56 Sevenseven
February 06 2014, 10:23PM
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Maybe, just maybe, a stretch of good goaltending brings this teams young players to the next level.....

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#57 dougtheslug
February 06 2014, 10:58PM
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Intercepted email from Klowe to Brian Burke:

Hey, would you guys knock it off with your "hardest working team in hockey" self-promotion crap. For all your hard work, you're still in 28th place, for Pete's sake! We're only one place behind you, and we're barely trying!

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#58 Oilcruzer
February 06 2014, 11:11PM
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Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty) wrote:

Team Sweden loses one Sedin for Olympics.

I would give them a healthy Henrik if Canada could have a healthy Steven.

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#59 Wigswag
February 06 2014, 01:27PM
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Oil win 3 - 1 Yak loves his new linemates and pots 2.

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#60 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
February 06 2014, 05:20PM
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GDP: Big and skilled beats Small and skilled. Rangers Win!

Thats if they don't get SCRIVENATED!

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#61 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
February 06 2014, 06:25PM
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How can you review intent to blow the whistle? The broadcast crew is saying it's the intent to blow the whistle but yet the play is under review. Doesn't make sense.

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#62 The Soup Fascist
February 06 2014, 09:48PM
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Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty) wrote:

That's just silly Soupy....the Gretzky trade wasn't even on Twitter.

Right you are. I heard it on something called AM radio on the old Bill and Bill show on CJCA.

A simpler time, ORG. A simpler time.

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#63 Dog Train
February 06 2014, 02:15PM
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I felt like St. Louis should have made the team to begin with so good for him to be named to the team. Only two more Oilers games before us fans can turn our attention to a team that actually has a chance to win something. Good luck to all Canadian Olympians!

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#64 Lochenzo
February 06 2014, 04:01PM
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LA is trying to make this trade without giving us a player that can make a big difference to the Oilers, a division rival. They refused to deal Jonathan Bernier to us over the summer and it looks like they were right about that.

So why would the Oilers send the Kings a player who just might be a difference-maker? You want Gagner, I want Slava Voynov.

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#65 toprightcorner
February 06 2014, 04:22PM
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I don't get the push to trade Gagne before the deadline, those trades are typically for playoff teams adding players for a pick, non roster players or players that don't benefit their team.

The goal is/should be to get an asset to help fill a hole on team, which will likely take a package, like a top pairing damn or a top 6 power forward. No team that is in the hunt will give up a quality everyday player. That leaves maybe 3 teams that would trade a player like that, Buf, Fla and Cal.

MacT should wait until the draft or just before July 1 when Gagner's NMC kicks in. There will be many more options to get a proven player in return for a package and knowing where we pick will give certain value to that pick.

There is no reason a package with Gagne and a combination of Klefbom, Lander, Arcobello, Fedun, other prospects and 1st round pick couldn't get a top pairing damn or top 6 power forward or big 2 way 2nd line center in return.

I have no problem trading our lottery pick in a package for a top pair damn or top 6 power forward. That pick will take 3-4 years to benefit the team and the Oilers really need a player that will help the team starting next year.

The options and possible destinations increase substantially if MacT waits until after the season to trade Gagner.

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#66 bwar
February 06 2014, 05:26PM
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I don't care what the return is on a Gagner trade as long as we don't have to eat salary. If we are eating salary then the return better be big.

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#67 Reg Dunlop
February 06 2014, 05:56PM
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Rick Stroppel wrote:

I HAVE IT ON GOOD AUTHORITY!

I heard that too. My brother-in-law's cousin's kid's teacher's friend heard it from a guy he met at the bar! IT'S GOTTA BE TRUE!

PS: And some people wonder why some UFA's are reluctant to come play in Edmonton.

You heard something? Wow, I just made it up but if you heard something it must be true. Wait till I tell everybody I know... this is BIG news. Thanks, man!

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#68 bazmagoo
February 06 2014, 01:43PM
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Hoping they can trade Hemsky for an actual prospect. How about Hemmer to Pittsburgh for Despres?

I could see Perron being a positive influence on that young guy. He's hit a bit of a bump in his development this year but he's big, a 1st round pick, and a left sided d-man which Edmonton needs some depth on.

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#69 Bucknuck
February 06 2014, 02:04PM
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i think the Oilers are going to get beaten badly by the rangers today: 7-3.

There... now I hope I am wrong.

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#70 mlcselli
February 06 2014, 03:13PM
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We all agree that change is necessary. We all agree that we need to be bigger and harder to play against. We all agree that Gagner has been very ineffective this year. We all agree that Gagner hasn't really shown an obvious improvement in the last 7 years with the Oilers. We can't agree on the timing. Is a trade better now, March 5 or over the summer? Do we need to take Clifford and some salary, or is there someone else and we don't eat any salary? Does the trade have to be with the Kings or is there another dance partner? All I know is that whatever and whenever MacT pulls the trigger, we will all agree to disagree on the decision. We are never be satisfied. That's the beauty of being a fan. Tonight, in the city that never sleeps, I hope the Oil take the win. Go Oilers.

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#71 6 ring circus
February 06 2014, 04:10PM
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Trading for Magic Beans, Oilers management has read Jack and the bean stock to many times,whatever happened to buy low sell high ? In Edmonton it's totally the opposite, know wonder they are a lottery team with decision makers like this.

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#72 Jordan Nugent-Hallkins
February 06 2014, 04:20PM
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@NJ

As much as I would love Mackinnon on the Oilers, I don't see the Avs trading him any time soon.

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#73 Lofty
February 06 2014, 06:37PM
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SHOOT THE PUCK!

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#74 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
February 06 2014, 07:51PM
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Gregor on Fire last few weeks! Time to start wagering!

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#75 Hoss83
February 06 2014, 09:17PM
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Have to disagree with you on the Fallon vs. Leno Gregor. I have seen them both live and hands down Leno wins. Laughed so hard I could barely breathe.

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#76 Lochenzo
February 06 2014, 01:45PM
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Sometimes the best trade you make is the one that you don't make. Hmmm, wonder who said that?

Gagner would make a more than competent top 6 winger if let's say, Jordan Eberle got dealt for that top 2 Dman that we've been searching for like forever.

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#77 Ales Hallsky
February 06 2014, 03:12PM
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Who Cares...Its like trading your Vladimir Ruziczka o-pee-chee for the other guy's Mariusz Czerkawski

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#78 Brad
February 06 2014, 04:42PM
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@Brad

Funny how get trashed I should have said they were a great organization that has had the worst record in the NHL for about 8 years. What was I thinking.

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#79 Rod from Viking
February 06 2014, 08:27PM
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The Soup Fascist wrote:

Is That Nick Kyprios your local donair restaurant owner?

'Cause Nick Kypreos from Sportsnet hasn't tweeted for 6 hours and pretty sure nothing official happens unless it is on Twitter.

It was put up on Sportsnet, not a tweet.

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#80 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
February 06 2014, 08:43PM
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Arius Mumin wrote:

Oiler better keep Marincin. The kid will grow to be Lil'Euro'Rake.

Who is Big Euro Rake? Chara?

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#81 The Big Dummy
February 06 2014, 12:42PM
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F-it I'll Shoot Tomorrow

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#82 GB
February 06 2014, 12:54PM
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Gregor, I remember reading and hearing you talk about offer sheeting Clifford in the summer and thought it would have been a smart, bold (well, somewhat) move.

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#83 Lochenzo
February 06 2014, 01:37PM
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YEGFan wrote:

I know there hasn't been any buzz about this... but I'm going to throw it out there anyway.

What about an Oilers Rangers trade.

Oilers send: Hemsky (50% retained salary) Gagner Klefbom

Rangers send: Girardi Moore

Both players coming our way are UFAs meaning the Rangers might be willing to deal them, but they address major needs on our team and having the extra time to shower them with money might give us a shot at a legitimate top pairing defenseman.

Hemsky could be useful down the stretch, and would have a high chance of resigning on the cheap, Klefbom would be another cheap defensive prospect benefitting from their system's exceptional capacity to shelter rookies, and Gagner is a forward who can produce in a middle six role.

Is it crazy to think they might move Girardi?

Hemsky to NYR maybe for a pick would make sense if they do wind up trading Callahan out of town.

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#84 TonyT
February 06 2014, 01:41PM
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@They're $hittie

Easy there, I never said he hasn't done anything, but clearly if the best deal they can get for him is Kyle Clifford then that may be how the other 29 GMs see him. I don't think he's a bad player, however I strongly believe this team can not be succesful with him and RNH as their 1-2 Centres. Having said that, does his value go up before the draft? Possibly, Gagner regularly has a strong push to finish the season. In the mean time, I believe Arcobello is an adequate low-cost TEMPORARY replacement.

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#85 Serious Gord
February 06 2014, 02:24PM
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Dean Belanger wrote:

Damn that is a fine looking bastard!

Back in the day he would have a face like a hamburger being a goalie and all...

Nowadays goalies are the most likely players to finish their careers unscarred and with all of their teeth.

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#86 #ThereGoesTheOilers
February 06 2014, 02:51PM
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What's the rush? Is Gagner going to bring back more now or in the summer? Time will help his value in my estimation.

What if you paired him with a significant prospect like Klefbom (and a pick depending) - now who can you get back? Probably a hell of a lot more than just Clifford.

Hypothetical of course, but I just can't perceive why we'd trade a significant contract for anything short of a significant piece coming back.

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#87 NJ
February 06 2014, 04:05PM
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Gagner is a "2B" center. Arcobello is an unproven 2B. Trading Gagner for almost nothing won't help us. It's like watching Souray walk for nothing. We can talk all day about getting rid of the guy but the facts are nobody is gonna fill that spot, unless MacT is looking to the draft for that... And we know how that's worked so far for us right?

I wonder if we could get McKinnon (sp?) out of Colorado for Gagner and Eberle. We eat some of Gagner's contract... But RNH and McKinnon down the middle looks better than our current situation, Hemmer moves us for Eberle and we dump all sorts of salary to sign Nate long term! Just a thought.

Also ... Yak for Jones = win. I'd even go as far as Eberle for Jones. Nashville needs scoring, Jones IS a future #1 D.

Lastly: I think Gagner's NTC, when it kicks in, is fluff. Who wouldn't waive it to get out of Edmonton. Cold hard sucky FACT.

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#88 YEGFan
February 06 2014, 01:21PM
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I know there hasn't been any buzz about this... but I'm going to throw it out there anyway.

What about an Oilers Rangers trade.

Oilers send: Hemsky (50% retained salary) Gagner Klefbom

Rangers send: Girardi Moore

Both players coming our way are UFAs meaning the Rangers might be willing to deal them, but they address major needs on our team and having the extra time to shower them with money might give us a shot at a legitimate top pairing defenseman.

Hemsky could be useful down the stretch, and would have a high chance of resigning on the cheap, Klefbom would be another cheap defensive prospect benefitting from their system's exceptional capacity to shelter rookies, and Gagner is a forward who can produce in a middle six role.

Is it crazy to think they might move Girardi?

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#89 BingBong
February 06 2014, 01:47PM
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What do people think about going after Andrew McDonald in the off-season? I haven't seen him play but from what I've read he's been great this year, playing 25 minutes a night on the 1st pairing. He's experienced, UFA, and we need a top pairing guy in the worst way.

We'd have to overpay, but at least this way we get our 1st pairing guy without giving up any assets. And he's still young enough to be a part of the future.

Apparently he's looking for $5M per year for 5-6 years. With what MacT threw at Clarkson this shouldn't be a problem.

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#90 2004Z06
February 06 2014, 02:13PM
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Rumor is possibly Clifford + Martinez for Gagner with some salary retained.

I thought it was reported this morning that Yakupov was playing with Hall and RNH?

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#91 Serious Gord
February 06 2014, 03:08PM
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gcw_rocks wrote:

The deal should be:

Gagner, Klefbom and Hemsky to NJ for Adam Larsson and Adam Henrique.

New Jersey can't score, so they get an offensive boost from Gagner as well as Hemsky as a rental. They also get Klefbom to replace Larsson in thier pipeline.

The Oilers get a strong two-way centre with history playing with Hall and a 6'3" future top pairing defender.

Sounds interesting. Plus it would be FOK deal with slats on the NYR side of the deal...

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#92 Serge
February 06 2014, 03:46PM
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Clifford is a complimentary play, that plays well with great players and a organization that is committed to winning.

Clifford would come to the Oilers end up as a 4th liner. He would hate it here.

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#93 toprightcorner
February 06 2014, 04:29PM
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jack wrote:

it will probably be garner and someone for clifford green and someone else good, green when in the lineup, la has only won a few games, but we will probably have to take salary back

Not a chance the King's trade Green, he was a vital part of the locker room when they won the cup. Quick said Green was a huge benefit keeping him relaxed yet focused during that run. Character depth defenseman are what contenders trade for, not trade away.

PS, I would love to have Green back but he would only fit as a bottom pair and we have 6 of those already.

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#94 The Soup Fascist
February 06 2014, 08:09PM
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Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty) wrote:

Nick Kyprios reporting Gagner to LA likely to get done before Olympic break. Meaning TOMORROW!

All eyes will be on Oilers morning skate if they have one.

Is That Nick Kyprios your local donair restaurant owner?

'Cause Nick Kypreos from Sportsnet hasn't tweeted for 6 hours and pretty sure nothing official happens unless it is on Twitter.

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#95 vinotintazo
February 06 2014, 08:10PM
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Bi-Curious Gord wrote:

Whoa! Whoa! We haven't won yet, boys. Lets wait and see if the Corsi Gods say its a legit win.

Don't worry they will get backlund lol!

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#96 hoss83
February 06 2014, 09:18PM
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Their stand up routines not the shows.

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#97 The Soup Fascist
February 06 2014, 09:46PM
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Rod from Viking wrote:

It was put up on Sportsnet, not a tweet.

Apparently subtle, deeply insightful satire on social media is not my strong suit.

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#98 Harlie
February 06 2014, 11:11PM
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Scrivz reminds me of a stellar tender from a little old town called Way Back.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iinPojYU510

SIGN HIM MACT.

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#99 Rdubb
February 07 2014, 08:40AM
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HOLY SMOKES Gregor, what the heck did you do, go back and make your "game day predications" after the Oilers games last night? Or maybe you went back, erased and re-wrote it? Anyhow, you NAILED IT (no pun intended)!!! You got the correct score and the correct shot totals (close enough anyways, plus, depending upon where or whom you read/listen to, the shot total varies)... Since you got your predications BANG ON, I think that maybe you should give your buddy Johnathon Willis a call, and teach him how to make these? In every article that I can remember him writing and making predications, I have NEVER seen him come even remotely close to getting any correct, heck, he usually cannot even pick the correct team let alone the score and shot totals... So, long story short, congrats...plus, I do agree with you about the Gagner trade. Would MacT not be better off getting Muzin plus a 2nd rounder, or am too far off here? MacT needs to bring in bigger, stronger, & more defensively reliable personnel over another 4th liner, who, by all accounts, is more or less Luke Gadzik with a wee bit more skill, but not much more. Even Clifford and a 2nd wouldn't really be enough for Sam, let alone having Edmonton retaining some of his salary. Should that be the deal everyone is talking about, than I'd much rather keep Sam and go and pick-up a bigger 3rd or 4th liner via free agency this summer. And if MacT can bring in a somewhat skilled bigger body who plays C, than, even at his salary, wouldn't we have the makings of a good 3rd line with Gagner centring the 3rd line, or playing the left side with Nail on the R and the big guy @ C, not a bad POTENTIAL 2nd line if you ask me... Peck

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#100 Wigswag
February 06 2014, 01:05PM
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It would be nice to know if the wins where they were outshot are come from behind wins or sit on a lead wins.

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