THE PITCH: TIMING IS EVERYTHING

Robin Brownlee
February 06 2014 11:28PM

Whether you go by gut-feeling or spreadsheet, there's no way of knowing for sure if Ben Scrivens is the real deal the Edmonton Oilers have been waiting for in the goal crease, but there's no question he's making a compelling and timely case that he is.

I gave my take on Scrivens and Ilya Bryzgalov and Edmonton's goaltending situation a few days ago as both approach UFA status, so I won't re-paint the big picture I outlined, but it's difficult not to look at Scrivens again after he made 35 saves in a 2-1 win over the New York Rangers.

With six games in the books for the Oilers, the 27-year-old stopper from Spruce Grove has stopped 219 of the 231 shots he's faced, which translates to a .948 saves percentage. He's 3-3-0 with a 2.01 goals-against average.

Small sample size (as the stats guys are fond of saying)? Sure. Does six games mean GM Craig MacTavish should back up the Brink's truck for Scrivens to convince him not to test the UFA market? No. This could be a remarkably hot stretch, nothing more.

REALITY CHECK

That said, the reality is MacTavish does not have the luxury of taking a longer look than what he'll get beyond the end of the regular season where Scrivens is concerned. There's an element of risk because of that.

The way I see it, MacTavish would be well-advised to make Scrivens and agent Jay Fee an offer sooner rather than later. At the same time, it makes sense for Scrivens and Fee to let this play out and test the market. I tend to think that's how it'll unfold.

One thing's certain, Scrivens couldn’t have picked a better time to play the best goal of his brief NHL career. Every time he puts in a performance like he did against the Rangers, his price goes up. While he's not going to play at a .948 clip indefinitely, he's going to get paid.

ALL THAT TALK ABOUT SAM

I'd like to think that even Sam Gagner's harshest critics, and there are many who fall into that category, understand that trading him to the Los Angeles Kings for Kyle Clifford straight up is a move only a fool would make. Say what you want about MacTavish, he's no fool.

While it's nonsense on so many levels, at least as a one-for-one swap, there's so much smoke surrounding discussions between L.A. GM Dean Lombardi and MacTavish that there's got to be some fire there. One supposed insider even suggested today via Twitter Gagner would be shipped to Tinseltown before the New York game. Well, no.

The only way a swap involving Gagner and Clifford makes sense – I'm not the first to suggest this – is if there's other players involved on both sides, and I'm not just talking about Lombardi flipping the draft pick the Oilers gave up for Scrivens back to Edmonton.

Youngster Tyler Toffoli, a centre, was the subject of much speculation as an add-in from the L.A. side of things, but that tips the scales too far in favor of the Oilers for Lombardi to bite. If this talk turns into a trade, there's got to be somebody from Edmonton's end going south to square it up.

WHAT ABOUT RAMSAY?

If the Oilers are looking to add a coach to their staff in support of Eakins between now and next season -- they are -- they should be taking a long look at Craig Ramsay, who was sacked by the Florida Panthers last November when head coach Kevin Dineen was let go.

Ramsay, 62, who has made coaching stops with Florida, Ottawa, Boston, Atlanta, Philadelphia and Tampa Bay, where he won the Stanley Cup in 2004, is the kind of teacher and technical coach who'd be a fit here.

WHILE I'M AT IT . . .

. . . I said it on Twitter today and I'll say it again: while I see a need for MacTavish to bolster his forwards with grit and size that can play in the top six, I'd like to think he's making calls about proven defensemen. You won’t get a top-pairing blueliner for Gagner, but I'd like to think he can fetch a veteran capable of playing in the second pairing here.

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#1 bwar
February 07 2014, 04:04AM
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I thought the going rate for a player who has one amazing game was 4.8 mill for 3 years.

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#3 The Last Big Bear
February 06 2014, 11:35PM
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Fist things first - If you allow fewer pucks on net, you don't need exceptional goaltending, and so you don't need to be backed into a corner by a flash-in-the-pan goalie on a hot streak.

Fix the defence, and things will start coming together for the Oilers, regardless of who is in net.

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#4 bazmagoo
February 07 2014, 12:30AM
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Martin Marincin playing like a veteran has me more excited than Scrivens. In today's NHL goalies go through hot and cold streaks all the time. If you can land Scrivens at 2 years, 1.5 - 2 million I say go for it, but we need another goalie to battle with him for the #1 spot. I don't think Bryz is the guy to push him.

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#5 Serious Gord
February 06 2014, 11:49PM
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Robin:

Re: Scrivens

Two words: Roman Turek.

Far too early to sign Scrivens

Re: Ramsay

No way the FOKs allow someone as distinguished and independently respected to come inside the organization and put the FOKs at risk of damning questioning and criticism.

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#6 oilabroad
February 07 2014, 05:32AM
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Its not just 6 games for Scrivens, his GA for the season are far better than anything we are likely to get in the offseason. He is a local kid (which seems to be something management has identified as important), he is the right age, and the dollars wont be huge... sign him up and move on to the other holes that need to be filled

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#7 NJ
February 07 2014, 06:15AM
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Seriously? Can we get rid of the PINK background? Find a new sponser pls!

Re: Scrivens. Trade bait? Fine. Sign him? Fine. He is not going to make or break the next season and a couple weeks ago he was worth nothing more than a draft pick. This streak hasn't changed anything except our concept of what Scrivens is worth.

My personal opinon? 1 Year. 3 million. Heck, play him 4 if he wants it. But for heaven's sake play him 60 games. Find out what you have. It took us forever to find out Duby wasn't a number one. Let's please not make that mistake again.

We don't have cap problems (really) next year so a million extra or 2 in a potential number one is no problem. Especially with 4.8 off the books.

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#8 mlcselli
February 07 2014, 12:58AM
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My spidey senses are telling me we have just seen Gagner play his last game as an Oiler. He'll be heading to LA tomorrow, and for the love of all that is Holy, win the trade. As far as the Professor signing here, hopefully his wife likes her in laws enough to support 3 for 3.

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#9 Mack Strong
February 07 2014, 02:15AM
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If there really needs to be a trade involving Gagner and the LA Kings….please let it include King or Tafoli and Clifford being an ADDITION to…not the centre piece of what LA sends our way.

Scrivens needs to be signed…the guy battles and doesn't give up on plays! We paid Bryz 2.266 for an experiment…Scrivens has shown that even with our pathetic defence, 2 - 3 opposing goal games are winnable. Sure we can always ask to see more games, or prove more, but even as a backup (if thats what we make him) he looks dam good!

Don't need to be a "competent" scout on the Oilers scouting crew to see Scrivens deserves a respectable contract….

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#10 tileguy
February 07 2014, 12:37AM
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bazmagoo wrote:

Martin Marincin playing like a veteran has me more excited than Scrivens. In today's NHL goalies go through hot and cold streaks all the time. If you can land Scrivens at 2 years, 1.5 - 2 million I say go for it, but we need another goalie to battle with him for the #1 spot. I don't think Bryz is the guy to push him.

Anybody here think you can sign Scrivens for 2 mil, raise your hands...didn't think so, try 3 for 3 years min.

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#11 LOIL99
February 06 2014, 11:46PM
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It can take 200+ games to know if a goalie is the real deal. Sometimes longer. Sign Scrivy, yes. But PLEASE don't overpay based on 6 games, unless he is willing to play for free during the inevitable bad 6 game stretches.

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#12 tileguy
February 07 2014, 12:33AM
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They did with Eakins so shut the fok up.

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#13 Mason Storm
February 07 2014, 04:07AM
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bwar wrote:

I thought the going rate for a player who has one amazing game was 4.8 mill for 3 years.

Zing!!!!

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#14 Ed in Edmonton
February 07 2014, 10:41AM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

Linus Omark waived by the Sabres . . . another organization that has failed to understand his offensive brilliance and potential. If you can't hack it in the NHL on two bottom-feeders, then chances are you just can't hack it in the NHL, period.

The Predators must be laughing now. They will be able to pick up Omark and not have to give up Weber!!

If only fancy shoot out goals in the KHL makes an NHL player.

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#15 K Pal
February 07 2014, 10:25AM
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2004Z06 wrote:

Anyone else find it interesting that Scrivens pads and mask still retain his old teams colors? At least Bryz wore a white mask and pads. Scrivens is not re signing here folks.

Don't forget Scrivens has been using his mask and pads this season. Bryz on the other hand, most likely burned his old equipment the day he was bought out. I'm pretty sure a comparison is not relevant.

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#16 NJ
February 07 2014, 06:21AM
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fig pucker wrote:

the oilers have the problem of a huge demand and a limited supply when it comes to goaltending. what does that mean, well it means forget about a fair deal if we want to keep scrivens, just a guess but i think it will cost 4 million and 4 yrs to keep him. look miller or hiller aren't coming, so what choice do the oil have but to massively overpay and hope scrivens wants to stay. the bright side is remember schnider and bernier, they both played only backup for 2 of the better teams in the league. scrivens has played backup in tor and la and done well and seems to be up to the task of carrying the mail in edm. my point is how many of us would have complained if mact overpayed to land either of them? scrivens i think has made the case his pedigree is as good as theirs. in my opinion he's the best shot we have right now of landing a number 1. if he does sustain his current play 4 mill is reasonable.

Had to reply.

If Scrivens sustain's his current play, that would make him the #1 goalie in the league.

4 Mill wouldn't be reasonable. It would be a bargain. 6+ would be reasonable. The question is not what's reasonable, it's "Can he sustain his current level of play" and how much are you willing to gamble on that?

The one thing I'm convinced of is that Scrivens WANTS to be a number one and will battle for it. Bryz I think could be the backup we're looking for and could even push for the #1 job. Plus, who doesn't like a crazy Russian.

Sorry for the double post.

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#17 Paq Twinn
February 07 2014, 06:30AM
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@NJ

That in secure with youself that you cant deal with a little pink for a month or so. Deal with it tough guy.

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#18 fig pucker
February 07 2014, 05:53AM
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the oilers have the problem of a huge demand and a limited supply when it comes to goaltending. what does that mean, well it means forget about a fair deal if we want to keep scrivens, just a guess but i think it will cost 4 million and 4 yrs to keep him. look miller or hiller aren't coming, so what choice do the oil have but to massively overpay and hope scrivens wants to stay. the bright side is remember schnider and bernier, they both played only backup for 2 of the better teams in the league. scrivens has played backup in tor and la and done well and seems to be up to the task of carrying the mail in edm. my point is how many of us would have complained if mact overpayed to land either of them? scrivens i think has made the case his pedigree is as good as theirs. in my opinion he's the best shot we have right now of landing a number 1. if he does sustain his current play 4 mill is reasonable.

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#19 DangerSteve
February 07 2014, 07:15AM
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Friend that lives in LA was texting me that after the Kings game last night the buzz was that it was a massive deal between Edmonton and LA. But a domino was to fall with the NYI. Apparently Brown or Richards were talked about heading to Edmonton, and Gagner with another player and a high draft pick going back to LA. So most likely if Vanek ends up in LA,then the Edmonton trade would be involving one of those guys. Lombardi looking for a big shakeup, and wants more skill to go with the size he has.

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#20 Jordan Nugent-Hallkins
February 07 2014, 07:37AM
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@DangerSteve

Don't tease me with those names. It would never happen for E-town...

...would it? D:

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#22 hemi
February 07 2014, 06:20AM
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When was the last time that the majority of the fan base thought that our goaltender (spot light on the Professor)was past the level of good? In the very short time frame since the Oil acquired Scrivens, he has almost single handed, won over the fans and the players.

Scrivens has definitely put himself in the driver's seat and you can bet your last buck that Management knows they are on the hot seat with this player. Nobody knows for sure if Scrivens is the goalie for the Oil, but looking in the rear view mirror and looking ahead, he has demonstrated that he can indeed be a piece of the puzzle that will hopefully allow the Oil to get back to some resemblance of respectability.

Sign him!

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#24 tileguy
February 07 2014, 12:43AM
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Retsinnab5 wrote:

Offer Scrivens 3mil for 2 years?

That might get it done as family life might be a factor, but 3 is the number.

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#25 Marcus
February 07 2014, 11:11AM
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2004Z06 wrote:

Anyone else find it interesting that Scrivens pads and mask still retain his old teams colors? At least Bryz wore a white mask and pads. Scrivens is not re signing here folks.

BTW, NHL goalies don't get their equipment from Sport Check. Custom made and it's on the way.

https://twitter.com/VaughnHockey/status/425681312754569217

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#26 The Farmer
February 07 2014, 09:01AM
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I find it interesting how everyone bows at the feet of mighty LA, and how their defence makes average goalies look great. Seems that it might be a two way street. Bernier goes to the Leafs who are routinely outshot, and has them in playoff contention. Scrivens comes to Edmonton and single handedly has won a few games that they had no business having a sniff in. Oh yeah and the Kings still have arguably the best goalie on the planet.

LA is no doubt a sound and structured team, but there is no denying that recently they're a goalie factory too

Where would our sad sack Oil be right now if we had a few of these saves early in the season when they were actually out shooting opponents, before they completely lost their confidence?

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#27 madjam
February 07 2014, 09:51AM
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If Scrivens is better than Dubbie , then I see him getting offered a similar contract minimum .

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#28 Zarny
February 07 2014, 01:34PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

Even you have the democratic right to be wrong Robin. Don't let your post announcement routine taint your 30 yrs of watching this game.

This experiment has crashed and burned. The players haven't improved at all during the season. It tells me the important players on this team have already tuned him out. These kids want/need an example. What has Dallas done besides demand their respect. He doesn't have the balls/experience to side step earning their respect.

He's already damaged Yakupovs desire to play the game. Don't think MacT has the time to allow the players to send him this message even further. A veteran coach like Maurice is worth 20 more points in the standings. What the frigg has Eakins done, besides start making every mistake in the book once or twice. I'm sure Yakupov can't wait for Dallas to get the boot.

Me score goals, win game.....good, no? Love his passion for the game.

You're delusional.

The Oilers started 4-14-2 in their first 20 games. They are just below 0.500 since so they've obviously improved.

The first 20 games were an anomaly due to injuries hitting a roster that is paper thin and garbage goaltending. With decent G they would have 5 or 6 more W and would be sitting Nsh, Car and NJ which is a better reflection of where the team is at.

Eakins has already damaged Yakupovs desire to play the game?

Get a grip. Maybe you are weak-minded and quit that easily.

Guys that make the NHL? Umm no.

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#29 vetinari
February 07 2014, 07:50AM
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I think that the trade deadline is MacT's extension deadline with Scrivens-- I don't mind a bit of an overpay on a short term contract (1 to 2 years) because if Scrivens turns out to be a bust, you can still absorb and even maybe move the contract without a long term hit to your payroll.

A two year contract would also give Scrivens another 80-100 games (barring injury) to audition and prove that he should get the really big money.

Otherwise, teams will easily give you back a 1st or 2nd rounder or a mid level prospect or role player under contract to rent him for a playoff run-- and you would still have a chance to get him back when he hits UFA status in July.

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#30 A-Mc
February 07 2014, 09:10AM
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You can usually tell when a goalie is on a hot streak. By Eye they randomly make saves they have no business making. I dont see that with Ben Scrivens. He looks sharp and in control.

Am i saying that .948 is going to be his game going forward? Hell no. But i've seen enough to convince me he is worth a shot at a healthy number for both sides.

SIGN THE PROFESSOR!

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#31 Oilbaron
February 07 2014, 11:55AM
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Ok this is one of those times when you have to put the stats aside and instead use your eyes with your brain to judge goal-tending capability.

Look at the way Scrivens plays. Look at the Callahan stop and listen to him explain his reaction on the play.

Look at the San Jose game... Dubnyk would never make be able to make some of those stops

Sign this guy up now, he'll be worth every penny

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#32 pelhem grenville
February 07 2014, 04:31AM
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...compelling debate on the whether to sign Scrivens or not on the small sample

...and he'd make terrific trade bait too!

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#33 DisappointedFan
February 07 2014, 09:04AM
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@Spydyr

They did convince Justin Schultz to come to the frozen tundra...so I will give them a single nugget of success.

Nothing more though, one good deed doesn't make up for the landslide of dropped nuggets.

And I love me some nuggets.

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#34 camdog
February 07 2014, 10:04AM
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2004Z06 wrote:

Anyone else find it interesting that Scrivens pads and mask still retain his old teams colors? At least Bryz wore a white mask and pads. Scrivens is not re signing here folks.

Isn't it quite a bit of work to break in a new set of pads? Doesn't the mask go good with the pads?

Personally I don't think he's made his mind up yet.

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#35 DisappointedFan
February 07 2014, 10:31AM
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Spydyr wrote:

Do you think Justin Schultz might be having some regret with his decision?

Remember when they sent that DVD then went to Kelowna begging Heatly to come here.Awwwww good times.

He's a 1/2 Defensemen on the Oilers playing big minutes every night likely to get a big pay raise. I don't think he regrets a thing. This team will be good in a few seasons...I don't think he's too worried just yet.

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#36 Randaman
February 07 2014, 11:32AM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

MacT isn't firing Eakins between now and the start of next season.

He will add a veteran coach -- my vote as of now is Ramsay -- before they change the head coach again. My sense is Smith and Buchberger are on shakier ground than Eakins.

I pray that you are correct about Smith & Buchberger. They need to be gone. PERIOD!!

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#37 james_dean
February 07 2014, 12:38AM
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As don cherry would say reguarding felix the cat...

he faces more rubber than the michelin man

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#38 Cody anderson
February 07 2014, 06:20AM
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At very least Scrivens has shown over his career that he is an elite backup with starter potential.

I would hope they have already talked about the possibility of resigning him. Right now I would be willing to go up to 3 million for his choice of 1-3 years. If he continues to play anywhere near the level he has been that number would get higher as we approached the end of the season.

If he has not shown interest at resigning then I would plan on trading him at the deadline. The way he is currently playing I could see them getting a low 1st or high second for him, or possibly even a prospect that is NHL ready.

I would be playing him as much as possible down the stretch to get a true read on his skill.

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#39 719
February 07 2014, 08:19AM
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Never thought about Ramsay before but that would make alot of sense for this team.

As for Gagner trade. I can see the Oilers wanting Mike Richards. He would be a perfect veteran type the Oilers would need as a second line centre. I thought he had a no trade clause though?

If it was Mike Richards coming back, the Oilers would have to include more than Gagner, so the idea of a multi player trade that the rumor mill has been churning out would make sense.

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#40 Still Hoping
February 07 2014, 08:39AM
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Think about this. Scrivens plays for the worst defensive team in the NHL, which has given up the most shots. He is a free agent at the end of the year.

He will be noticed by a better managed team. What is his agent going to say. Stay in Edmonton where they can only trade 4th liners for 4th liners or move to another team. My bet, he's gone.

Again, the problem is no credible management with Lowe and Mac T around.

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#41 Max
February 07 2014, 09:01AM
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Signing Ben makes sense and a win-win situation. He's a local boy, grandparents get to see their grandkids more often during the season, other grandparents get to see them during the summer. Ben will be treated like a God in Edmonton, as we do tend to put our top players on a pedestal - heck, we even adore the not so hot ones! We get to have him mature along with our team, and with a couple more tweaks to the roster, who knows what next season could evolve into. I would love to see him signed - we haven't had this much faith in a goalie for years. Stay in Edmonton Ben, it's your chance to prove you are a number 1, and bring some hope back to the team and the fans......

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#42 Clyde Frog
February 07 2014, 10:23AM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

6th round conditional pick, so it's a big blow to the Oilers. They always uncover gems that deep in the draft.

Lots of people who should be eating crow on the underlying brilliance of Mr. Omark. You're one of the few who admits it.

Well obviously we should pick him up off waivers...

He could slot right into the top 6 right? I am pretty sure I read an article once where he was deemed "good"!

Or at the very least we could try and trade him for a conditional 6th round pick again!

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#43 Quicksilver ballet
February 07 2014, 12:14PM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

MacT isn't firing Eakins between now and the start of next season.

He will add a veteran coach -- my vote as of now is Ramsay -- before they change the head coach again. My sense is Smith and Buchberger are on shakier ground than Eakins.

Even you have the democratic right to be wrong Robin. Don't let your post announcement routine taint your 30 yrs of watching this game.

This experiment has crashed and burned. The players haven't improved at all during the season. It tells me the important players on this team have already tuned him out. These kids want/need an example. What has Dallas done besides demand their respect. He doesn't have the balls/experience to side step earning their respect.

He's already damaged Yakupovs desire to play the game. Don't think MacT has the time to allow the players to send him this message even further. A veteran coach like Maurice is worth 20 more points in the standings. What the frigg has Eakins done, besides start making every mistake in the book once or twice. I'm sure Yakupov can't wait for Dallas to get the boot.

Me score goals, win game.....good, no? Love his passion for the game.

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#44 RexHolez
February 07 2014, 07:39AM
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Scrivens plays for the oilers, so don't sign him now. Wait until his gaudy save % goes down, which it will as he plays more games behind this team

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#45 Spydyr
February 07 2014, 08:20AM
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Hopefully the "braintrust" have put out feelers to Scrivens agent.To see if he is even interested in signing here and what price would work to get that done.Get a feel for the lay of the land.

Then again the "braintrust" here never fails to show their arrogance and ineptitude when it comes to dealing with players.

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#46 2004Z06
February 07 2014, 09:51AM
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Anyone else find it interesting that Scrivens pads and mask still retain his old teams colors? At least Bryz wore a white mask and pads. Scrivens is not re signing here folks.

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#47 Zarny
February 07 2014, 03:20PM
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Walter Sobchak wrote:

The first statement, 4-12-2 since then they have improved? Where exactly can a 29th or 30th team go but up? Does it mean there actual getting better? Or are they now seeing other teams Qual Comp less?

When was the last team to play there starting goalie against the Oilers?

How much time did the other teams star players play against the Oilers? (I’ll give you a hint it’s lower then the average)

They have been out shot, out chanced and dominated 5X5 in their last wins, including being dominated at times by the 30th place Buffalo Sabers.

http://oilers.nhl.com/club/schedule.htm?season=20132014&gameType=2

“The first 20 games were an anomaly due to injuries hitting a roster that is paper thin and garbage goaltending. With decent G they would have 5 or 6 more W and would be sitting Nsh, Car and NJ which is a better reflection of where the team is at”

This is a bit of a stretch as well, if you recall last season The Oilers were down to just 2 centers for the most of the year, one which couldn’t lift his arm past his head, the Oilers never had a true number 1 or number 2 center almost all of last year due to injuries.

This season they are actually performing worse.

All the core players are.

http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/2014/02/05/has-craig-mactavish-done-better-than-steve-tambellini-did-as-gm-of-the-oilers/

If you can’t see the change in Yakupov’s game the I guess almost everyone including the stats are wrong? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhMC4T3agcfmdG9OWkZvaVQ4bXJtT3Jub29BcnRsMWc&usp=sharing

Well Walter...the last team to play their starting G was SJ on January 29th...4 games ago. The game before that Vancouver started Luongo. Nsh starter is injured but the game before that was Phx and they started Smith. The 2 games prior to Phx were Van and Wpg. Again both starters played.

Star players playing lower minutes against the Oilers?

Well let's see...against the Rangers McDonaugh, Girardi, Callahan, Staal, Stralman, Stepan and Nash all played equal to or more than their average TOI/game.

Against Bos Chara played 27:50 compared to his season average of 24.57. Boychuk played 20:09 to his season average of 21:05. Krejci played 20:15 to his season average of 19:31.

So nope...other teams aren't playing their star players less against the Oilers I'm afraid.

Last season Nuge missed 8 games and Gagner missed none. Horcoff was the 3rd line C not 1 or 2. That's who missed significant time last year.

So I'm afraid last year the Oilers actually had their 1 and 2 C for most of the games. This year both started the year on the IR. Nuge's shoulder bothered him last year but he started the season in peak condition after playing in the AHL during the lockout.

This year he started the year on the IR with Gagner and was not in peak condition when he came back considering he was coming off surgery and wasn't able to train in the off-season.

It's not a stretch in the slightest that the first 20 games were an anomaly considering they've almost been at 0.500 since. That's the definition of an anomaly.

Had the Oilers started 8-10-2 instead of 4-14-2 and picked up 1 or 2 wins after with better G they'd be sitting exactly where I stated with Nsh, Car and NJ.

Now that certainly isn't something to plan a parade around; but it also doesn't warrant wetting your pants and completely losing touch with reality like we've seen on ON.

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#48 Retsinnab5
February 07 2014, 12:39AM
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Offer Scrivens 3mil for 2 years?

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#49 AHHH
February 07 2014, 08:42AM
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DangerSteve wrote:

Friend that lives in LA was texting me that after the Kings game last night the buzz was that it was a massive deal between Edmonton and LA. But a domino was to fall with the NYI. Apparently Brown or Richards were talked about heading to Edmonton, and Gagner with another player and a high draft pick going back to LA. So most likely if Vanek ends up in LA,then the Edmonton trade would be involving one of those guys. Lombardi looking for a big shakeup, and wants more skill to go with the size he has.

Ganger is not worth a bag of pucks. Slow, insignificant player against a good team. He would not make the top 2 lines on any top 10 team in the NHL.

We are going to get nothing for him. Good to get rid of his contract.

The important thing to not is the mismanagement of Gagner. They should have traded him and kept Cogliano. Well another management mistake by Lowe et al.

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#50 Rama Lama
February 07 2014, 10:25AM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

6th round conditional pick, so it's a big blow to the Oilers. They always uncover gems that deep in the draft.

Lots of people who should be eating crow on the underlying brilliance of Mr. Omark. You're one of the few who admits it.

Omark and his career was a direct result of the power of social media....... also goes to show how desperate Oiler fans were for a good news story.

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