GDB: BATTLE OF ALBERTA

Lowetide
March 01 2014 09:50AM


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It's an ill will she blows this morning, ladies and men. We are stone cold frozen, indoors, outdoors and in the western conference. The blues aren't blue enough, the country tear-jerkers can't find the lines, the poets can't stop the clocks in rhyme. 

The Battle of Alberta is desolation row. 

BUT WE'LL GET THERE BEFORE THEM!

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Really? REALLY? The tortoise and the hare had a point to their story, I'm not sure 'one frozen bubble against another one' will galvanize our collective spirits in Alberta province. 

Is there ANY good news? And don't tell me the draft! 

CALGARY FLAMES PROJECTED LINEUP

  • TJ Galiardi-Mikael Backlund-Jiri Hudler
  • Mike Cammalleri-Sean Monahan-Joe Colborne
  • Lance Bouma-Matt Stajan-David Jones
  • Paul Byron-Markus Granlund-Kevin Westgarth
  • TJ Brodie-Mark Giordano
  • Kris Russell-Derek Smith
  • Ladislav Smid-Dennis Wideman
  • Reto Berra

The Flames have some good hockey players heading out tonight, and some of them will be playing their last game with the fiery C. Mike Cammalleri should get significant interest, young Backlund has once again overcome major obstacles and the all-Canadian Monahan looks sharp in every photo. The Flames Corsi for % 5x5 is 45.2%, fourth worst in the league but there are some champions in the group:

  • Galiardi 50.8%
  • Giordano 50.5%
  • Backlund 49.4%
  • Brodie 49.3%
  • Cammalleri 49.2%

The complete list is here   and it is worth noting Calgary has only three position players who have been on the ice for more than 300 minutes while posting a sub 43% Corsi for 5x5 %. 

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EDMONTON OILERS PROJECTED LINEUP

  • Hall-Nuge-Hemsky
  • Perron-Gagner-Eberle
  • Hendricks-Gordon-Joensuu
  • Jones-Smyth-Gazdic
  • Marincin-Petry
  • N Schultz-J Schultz
  • Ference-Belov
  • Bryzgalov

Nail Yakupov's injury isn't considered serious, but it's also likely they hold him back for tonight's game. Do the Oilers have some good news, something similar to the Flames' men who are close to 50% or better Corsi for 5x5?

The Oilers Corsi for 5x5% is 43.3%, they are one below Calgary in the race (don't you laugh, Toronto  only Buffalo saves you!)

  • Martin Marincin 50.2%

The numbers are here.  Edmonton has five players who have been on the ice for more than 300 minutes while also posting a sub 43% Corsi for 5x5 %.


SOME SWEET DAY

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History tells us this will not last. Calgary will have a fine trade deadline, add some picks and prospects and live to fight another day. Edmonton appears to have invested heavily in hiring a new coach each season, so the only impressive thing is the number of first overall selections on their roster. 

Calgary and Edmonton are driving toward that goal this summer, first overall. In that race, Edmonton is judge, jury and executioner. For Oiler fans, the promise of a first overall pick is like a kick in the junk, a stomach turner, a false spring. 

The Flames should learn the lesson presented to them by Edmonton—it's pretty damn hard to come back quickly from scorched earth, even when good soil lies all about you. 

GAME DAY PREDICTION: Flames and Oilers play to a 1-1 tie and no one can score in the shootout. Finally, Ladislav Smid drives in over the blueline and goes shelf on a very surprised Ilya Bryzgalov.

OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: Flames win 5-1, on 5 shorthanded goals. All by Smid. 

NOT-SO-OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: CBC's After Hours becomes trade central as both Mike Cammalleri and Ales Hemsky are sent to Pittsburgh right after the game. 

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#301 A rye morning
March 01 2014, 10:44PM
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MONOHAN!

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#302 Jordan Nugent-Hallkins
March 01 2014, 11:03PM
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@beloch

Who's been in the same PPG range as Crosby/Toews/Malkin/et al the last three years?

Again, don't get me wrong, I'd slay to have Monahan on the Oil. And I'm not trying to defend the Oilers either, what with our recent record.

But if you've got the fist overall and it's down to Hall or Monahan, you take Hall every time. That being said, I'll throw you Gags and Eberle for Monahan.

Let's get it done, you filthy Flamers.

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#303 Alsker
March 01 2014, 11:17PM
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Hal wrote:

At most Kevin Lowe has 20 years more with the Oilers. Expect changes 2034.

Thats more depressing than the present state of our team.

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#304 Rod from Viking
March 01 2014, 11:37PM
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RKD wrote:

You should be happy you got Nurse, you guys need d!

I am happy with Nurse, they had better not trade him.

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#305 Wonger
March 02 2014, 10:17AM
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Oilerfan wrote:

You know who else had big colonies? England. That's who.

I agree, I saw him stand up to Big John SCOTT in his last fight! Deryk Engelland!!!

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#306 Batfink
March 02 2014, 03:56PM
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Zarny wrote:

Enjoyed the gold medal game in the Bahamas and come back to the same drivel about coaching.

Yes, the US and Sweden were muted by Canada's "systems" not one of the sexiest bluelines in history. Babcock is truly a virtuoso on a magic marker board.

Hitchcock's 'x' at 3:43 of the 3rd period was surely the key to shutting down Kessel; not the ability of the players to win virtually every 1 on 1 battle, or their dedication and commitment to not cheat the system and play as a unit.

If only the Russians knew the secret was an excitable coach who makes lots of facial expressions after every goal.

Surely a better coach and a marker set with more colors would have convinced all of Russia's highly skilled and very similar forwards to play less like individuals and not cheat for offense. Belov and Markov could have been a shutdown tandem for the ages if only they had better systems.

Curious after Crosby and Poulin's goals how Babcock and Dineen casually walked down the bench without a twitch of expression. Imagine their potential if they learned to lose their composure and imitate someone with tourettes.

And what was with Toews and Crosby praising the commitment and work ethic of the players to be disciplined and responsible instead paying full homage to the coaching staff's "systems"? Without Hitchcock there is no way Crosby could have been that defensively responsible. Jon and Sid made it sound like players make decisions on the ice or something. Crazy talk.

Really? You're attempting to compare Eakins to Babcock. Really. So the only way Babcock is successful is that he has great players and they're carrying him? Not because he's a very good coach? Dineen, not so much, he did have his NHL shot, and may again but he still was able to impart what he wanted the players to do with minimal fuss. Apples to apples please. Unless of course you weren't being sarcastic.

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#307 Oilers G- Nations Poet Laureate
March 01 2014, 11:02AM
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C'mon Boys...ITS THE GODLESS FLAMES.

Just WIN Baby

Or are we the suckiest bunch of sucks who have ever sucked

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#308 Dc
March 01 2014, 11:39AM
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Oilers suck but I still hope they get away from ekblad by winning a few games.

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#309 tileguy
March 01 2014, 12:33PM
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OGDP...everybody that is not a UFA gets into a fight tonight, game takes 5 hours to complete and CBC vows never to do a BOA again.

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#310 smytty's halfclapper
March 01 2014, 01:43PM
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Wow LT, what a pleasant mix of fine prose and relevant hockey talk. That was a real treat.

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#311 M22
March 01 2014, 03:18PM
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chambers wrote:

This post is an excellent example of what's happened to the Oiler fans after 7 years of continuous losing...they have lost there perspective of pro sports. To the Oiler fans it's not about winning it's about draft position.

What a pathetic situation they are in. And I really don't see anything changing in the next several years as they need another major rebuild! Not only is the chronic mind set of the players on losing but the fans as well.

Sad.

I believe you were referring to this post:

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Hockey Problems wrote:

The hapless Oilers can't even tank the season the right way !!!

2008- Miss out on Tavares

2009- Miss out on Stamkos

2010 Hall

2011- Nuge

2012- Yakupov

2013- Miss out on Mackinnon

2014- Lose the season, Again. Win the lotto (bold prediction)

2015- And if history serves us correctly, they will lose out on McDavid

The Oilers can't even suck right !!!

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#312 nuge2nail
March 01 2014, 07:01PM
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Oiler Domination To Follow

As disheartened as we are, oilers nation still love the team.

150+ comments for a meaningless game. Sold out Stadiums.

Loyal fanbase. Hats off to the guys who care enough to post and share.

That said- Tambellini is the reason this rebuild has taken so long. Worst GM in NHL history... I'm serious statistically the worst ever.

MacT has been extremely active, and he will be judged IMO on how he spend the oilers 40+mil in cap space this offseason.

Interesting when you look at the guys who show heart and character each game:

Hall, Perron, Hendricks, Gordan, Gazdic, Scrivens

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#313 Rod from Viking
March 01 2014, 08:23PM
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So happy, no Mark Lee in the booth.

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#314 kale
March 01 2014, 08:25PM
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come on Smyth, shoot the puck at the net so I can run to the store and get some beer without missing anything

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#315 Grumpy
March 01 2014, 08:55PM
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BingBong wrote:

Is Eberle playing tonight? Nah he can't be. Haven't seen him. They really don't care much eh?

I think he had a season ending injury in December sometime. He's been out of the lineup for awhile. If he has any trade value at all I'd get rid of him before everyone forgets about his world junior tournament

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#316 RexHolez
March 01 2014, 10:07PM
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vetinari wrote:

We, instead, brought the AHL to us... we collected as many AHL players for our roster as humanly possible and then gave them an AHL coach to lead them.

And yet were building them a brand new rink. Why is there not change?? I don't think I could put together a worst nhl team if I tried

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#317 vetinari
March 01 2014, 10:11PM
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RexHolez wrote:

And yet were building them a brand new rink. Why is there not change?? I don't think I could put together a worst nhl team if I tried

I used to laugh when guys would say that they'd make a better GM than a professional... but then I witnessed years of Tambellini in (in)action and I can say yes, literally anyone could have done better than him.

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#318 RKD
March 01 2014, 10:42PM
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Battle of Ontario went to overtime now the Battle of Alberta goes to overtime, HNIC can't write better scripts than these. They must be loving it.

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#319 Kevin
March 01 2014, 10:44PM
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Rod from Viking wrote:

Did you miss his little flip shot from the top of the circle?

ya- think I noticed him flipin pucks off his back on the ATB commercial. Aside from that six rings and bold moves gave him his $40 Million what else does he need to do ?

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#320 ?
March 02 2014, 12:46AM
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Jordan Nugent-Hallkins wrote:

Who's been in the same PPG range as Crosby/Toews/Malkin/et al the last three years?

Again, don't get me wrong, I'd slay to have Monahan on the Oil. And I'm not trying to defend the Oilers either, what with our recent record.

But if you've got the fist overall and it's down to Hall or Monahan, you take Hall every time. That being said, I'll throw you Gags and Eberle for Monahan.

Let's get it done, you filthy Flamers.

I would actually tend to agree. Hall brings the offence, Monahan brings a 2 way ability.

No to the trade proposal though :)

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#321 **
March 02 2014, 01:41AM
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Taylor Gang wrote:

I've tried to be rational with the Eakins situation, but he is seriously not an NHL coach. This game was so evident of that; I've never seen a team run into each other so much on ridiculous plays that never would have caused a scoring chance. Seriously, why isn't there someone at the front of the net in the offensive zone? Heck, why isn't someone in front of the net in the defensive zone? Eakins is a total idiot, and the defense still sucks.

I used to say "we" when I was talking about the Oilers. Now I just can't associate myself with a bunch of perennial losers who refuse to play anything close to resembling hockey. I always wonder when they're going to hit rock bottom, and from the looks of it, they're still in the free-fall.

where I come from we say "they're at the bottom and digging"

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#322 Thumby
March 01 2014, 10:51AM
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Retsinnab5 wrote:

I agree with you 100%.

Eakins needs to go, i'm not giving him all the blame but we will not be successful with him as a coach!

If Eakins goes, who is on everyone's wish list for an available head coach?

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#323 admiralmark
March 01 2014, 12:49PM
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I'm kinda surprised theres not much chatter about Stewart potentially being available? Seems to me he is a solution to a gaping missing element on the Oilers. They also seem somewhat open to dealing Myers. Hmmmmm MacT. BOLD!!

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#324 billythebullet
March 01 2014, 02:46PM
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@Thumby

Hire Iron Mike Keenen.

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#325 beloch
March 01 2014, 03:03PM
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coachedpotatoe wrote:

If the flames lineup is correct it will be interesting to see Granlund play with Monahan. The third line with 3 NHL vets might be interesting as well.

That's a pretty significant deviation from the lineup posted here, but I hope you're right. Granlund looked very good in his first NHL game the other night against LA, and looked even better when he was separated from Westgarth!

Normally I would expect a rookie line like Monahan, Colborne, and Granlund to be absolutely eaten alive, but they're likely going to face the Oilers third or fourth lines. Granlund already faces tougher competition playing against top AHL lines! I bet they're going to be high-event (both good and bad), but interesting to watch!

Anyways, if the GMC line amounts to anything, can we start making truck jokes?

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#326 Hockey Problems
March 01 2014, 05:14PM
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chambers wrote:

This post is an excellent example of what's happened to the Oiler fans after 7 years of continuous losing...they have lost there perspective of pro sports. To the Oiler fans it's not about winning it's about draft position.

What a pathetic situation they are in. And I really don't see anything changing in the next several years as they need another major rebuild! Not only is the chronic mind set of the players on losing but the fans as well.

Sad.

U missed the sarcasm. That's all we got left up here

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#327 Dog Train
March 01 2014, 06:00PM
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Forget systems, I just want to see some passion. It pains me to say this but it's blatantly true, the Flames work way harder than we do. That's why, despite having very little in the way of proven NHL difference makers, they are still ahead of us in the standings. The BoA has been dead for years and now it's hit rock bottom.

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#328 Walter Sobchak
March 01 2014, 06:22PM
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admiralmark wrote:

No i didn't miss the trade news. Perhaps you missed the news that Buffalo was open to flipping Stewart to another team? And of course as an Oiler fan I cant help but dream of some functional toughness in the top 6. Simmonds/Stewart a fan can dream can't he?

You realize functional & toughness are not part of Stewarts vocabulary.

It's like asking Penner to be just a little tougher, skate a little quicker, get just a little mad.

There is a massive reason why Stewart has been traded three times.

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#329 Spydyr
March 01 2014, 06:43PM
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Loweblows wrote:

Lets hope KLowe follows pat lafontaine's example and resigns

Lowe tried Katz said no.

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#330 prendrefeu
March 01 2014, 08:17PM
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So why is the lighting in Rogers Place so crappy? It has looked like the lighting in a middle-school gymnasium since the 80's.

Will Edmonton's new arena have the same "pep rally at 2pm" style lighting just to reflect how dim the Oiler's future actually is?

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#331 BingBong
March 01 2014, 08:41PM
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MichaelD wrote:

You know it's bad when Jones walks around anyone

What's sad is I was wondering who got beat - then realized that it could've easily been any of our D.

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#332 Dave
March 01 2014, 08:44PM
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RKD wrote:

Three more goals and Monahan will have 20 in his rookie year.

Wish the oilers could draft good quality players like that

How about a trade of Monahan for RNH?

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#333 D-Unit
March 01 2014, 08:46PM
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@Rod from Viking

The role players are the only ones with heart and have something to play for. The guys that should gain momentum have never done anything, won anything or learned in the NHL, but have guaranteed bazillion $ contracts. They see no need to play for the name on the front of the jersey, only the one on the back.

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#334 beloch
March 01 2014, 09:03PM
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@**

Hey, we should all appreciate what time we have left with Rexall before it's replaced with an arena that looks like a giant sperm.

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#335 Rod from Viking
March 01 2014, 09:56PM
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RexHolez wrote:

I think the best one ever was the whole "29 other teams in the league would love to trade rosters with us!" Haha good times! If it wasn't so sad it'd be funny how terrible the management of this team is

Did he say 29? I thought he said 28(lol)

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#336 bulldog12
March 01 2014, 09:57PM
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Hemskys lighten er up now. The 1st lines been on fire since he moved up. The whole team has been on fire since they changed up the lines. Wednesday can't come soon enough. Please please please if there is a hockey God put Hemsky on a plane to anywhere.

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#337 SlapSchtick4
March 01 2014, 10:42PM
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Pretty obvious tonight... our flames are the worst team in the league... despite the even score. Just further proof that teams play down to the flames, not that the flames play up to the competition. This organization and its composition is based solely on other teams effort... period. These boys try hard, but they suck balls. Time to actually start the rebuild, instead of simply tread water...as is the Calgary way.

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#338 Oiler Al
March 01 2014, 11:36PM
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What are all these cow pies doing on the Oiler Nation. Dont you guys have your own site.

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#339 Dan
March 02 2014, 12:35PM
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@Butters

I get what you're saying and agree. But all our top end players except for Hall all play the same soft dangle game

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#340 big slick
March 02 2014, 07:31PM
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Harry wrote:

I can see Eakins getting the rest of the season then 20 games next year. If he sh'ts the bed after Macs supposed bold roster makeover during that 20 game stretch hes FIIIIIIIIRRRED!!

I guess that would be okay. But why not pick a veteran coach in June? For consistency? Not a strong enough argument. If they were .500 and 24th or 25th I would say, yeah okay, keep him for consistency. Not now. Not a strong argument. A new coach will have July, August and September to prepare the players. There is enough talent on this team to have better results than 29th an FOURTEEN games below .500. That alone should be enough to be fired, with this team.

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#341 Freewheeling Freddie
March 02 2014, 09:04PM
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Jeff In Lethbridge wrote:

all in all that was an average game for the Flames who are still struggling with injuries.

Ferrence is looking really frustrated playing in ed. poor guy. what did he do in his previous life to deserve this? i guess this way he got a couple more years in a career that was all but over.

Ya add Westgarth to your injury list he suffered a monumental beat down. Unfortunately he might suffer the same fate Ivanas did.What was he thinking fighting the great gazoo.

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#342 gus1000
March 01 2014, 03:03PM
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admiralmark wrote:

I'm kinda surprised theres not much chatter about Stewart potentially being available? Seems to me he is a solution to a gaping missing element on the Oilers. They also seem somewhat open to dealing Myers. Hmmmmm MacT. BOLD!!

These are two players that would definitely help our club.

Not sure who or what to send the other way, as I am not sure which direction Buffalo wants to head.

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#343 hockeyfan 1976
March 01 2014, 05:17PM
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michael wrote:

Healys comments tonight regarding Edmonton's interest in doing the same thing to New Rexall as they did to the arena in Socchi with the outside lighting on the building. Klowe/six rings/poho is looking into the technology.I for one loved it. What a great way to advertise and promote. I for one think it would look great in Edmonton.

The only advantage I see from this stupid technology would be to promote which team is visiting our city, that way, if its a playoff team in town, I won't bother buying an over-priced ticket and $25.00 beer. On the other hand, if it's a crappy team paying us(which there are almost none worse than us) it might gives a 50/50 chance of winning and I might buy a ticket then through kijiji LOL

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#344 michael
March 01 2014, 06:25PM
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"Brian Burke look like he came back froma3 day bender"? Only 3? If you were running team USA and the Flames would not an alcohol tab in the 400.00range a day be considered a must?

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#345 kale
March 01 2014, 06:56PM
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Spydyr wrote:

He did say sabbatical but do you think he would have been welcomed back?

Of course he would, I cite Mactavish's return as precedent

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#346 MontanaMan
March 01 2014, 08:47PM
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Quite the first period. The rookies and third and fourth liners playing well. Cammallerri, Hemsky, Hudler, Hall, Eberle, RNH absolutely invisible. Disheartening when the kids are leading their teams and the vets have mailed it in. Having said that, there's a few kids on the Oil that have mailed it in already.

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#347 Rod from Viking
March 01 2014, 08:55PM
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BingBong wrote:

Is Eberle playing tonight? Nah he can't be. Haven't seen him. They really don't care much eh?

Did you miss his little flip shot from the top of the circle?

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#348 Dave
March 01 2014, 08:56PM
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I bet the oilers would be a better than average junior team

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#349 beloch
March 01 2014, 09:04PM
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@vetinari

It's difficult to say if Lavtia would score much, but they'd certainly crush any offense the Flames or Oilers could muster. I don't think either team could count on Latvia's goalie collapsing from exhaustion either.

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#350 BingBong
March 01 2014, 09:08PM
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Grumpy wrote:

I think he had a season ending injury in December sometime. He's been out of the lineup for awhile. If he has any trade value at all I'd get rid of him before everyone forgets about his world junior tournament

He's got me worried. Previously when he's struggled or been hurt he was still getting chances, just missing. But lately he's just been invisible. Creating nothing.

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