AIRPORT '14?

Lowetide
March 02 2014 01:24PM


smyth

Captain Canada. Mr. Oiler. Ryan freaking Smyth. Does he want to go? Can we endure one more airport moment? Is there a market? Oh my. This again.

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He's a part of us, just like Groat Road or the Wee Book Inn or Wanye or potholes are a part of us. Ryan Smyth is the kid who wanted so badly to be an Oiler and had his dream come true. His tearful exit years ago is a distant bell, but if there's a market—and he's willing—will we repeat the ordeal?

Oiler fans may not have a choice.

IS THERE A MARKET?

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Probably. Smyth is playing a depth role but has delivered offense in that role, and his possession numbers are well clear of most other Oilers. Smyth is having a good season


THE VOLLMAN SLEDGEHAHMMER

    (CORSI REL)

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This graph compares Smyth to his own teammates (Corsi Rel) in terms of shot differential. It shows us that he's playing tougher opposition and his zone starts are severe. This is the uphill battle area of the graph -- Smyth, Gordon, Hemsky and Perron are facing tough opps AND starting in their own zone a lot. Smyth's bubble color is rich blue, telling us he's doing an exceptional job compared to his teammates.

He's not perfect. Smyth's 5x5 offense is well down the list, but then again those zone starts and quality of competition impact those numbers in a big way.

Smyth is playing 15:30 a game in Edmonton, getting EV, PP and PK time every game. A contending team wouldn't necessarily need to use him as much, and Smyth might be a more effective player.


WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

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These old guys may need a little extra TLC, but come in handy at playoff time. For an NHL team looking for an inexpensive veteran, Ryan Smyth looks like a viable option.

Just don't ask me to drive him to the airport. Or wave goodbye again.

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#1 Tuningout
March 02 2014, 01:33PM
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I was just going to say on the last blog. That the next one will be LT or JW. Mr Brownleee covered the last depressing post game blog. A Gregor pro Eakins blog will be ripped. This was the only way. Thanks LT. I live in St Albert. Love your show. Maybe run into you at Safeway some day.

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#2 godot10
March 02 2014, 01:35PM
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If he's playing next year, he will be playing in Edmonton, so why don't you want to give him a shot a winning the Stanley Cup.

He'll b gone for 19 games.

And then be back next September.

What's the problem with that?

Reverse Ruotsaleinen.

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#3 Jerry
March 02 2014, 01:36PM
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What does it all mean? What does it matter ? Oilers are not an NHL team. They ruin players. Stats are for losers. Results matter.

Oilers organization do a lot of talking , saying all the right things. Watch my feet not my mouth. They are losers.

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#4 Tuningout
March 02 2014, 01:37PM
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I hep Smyth goes. For his sake. Go have fun winning. Sign here in the offseason if he still wants. Poor guy. Even his family must be seriously looking at -30 in March and going on Google looking at other options

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#5 Nelson
March 02 2014, 01:41PM
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How does KLowe Mact, Smith, and Buchberger look at themselves in the mirror?

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#6 horndog77
March 02 2014, 01:42PM
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I'm sure the Oilers could get a lot of playoff teams to pony up a fifth round pick for Smyth. He's the type of player teams want for depth for a long playoff run. I'm sure he would like another chance of winning the cup as well.

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#7 Oiler101
March 02 2014, 01:42PM
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To bad that other boy band took the name "one direction"

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#8 Retsinnab5
March 02 2014, 01:43PM
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My prediction: Smyth gets traded to a top 4 team for a 4th round pick, then in the summer he resigns for 1 more year with Edmonton

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#9 Tuningout
March 02 2014, 01:54PM
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No no no. smyth gets a third or better. Or he doesn't go. What are the odds of a 4th or worse pick making the NHL? smyth for a second or f o f f.

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#10 Oilers G- Nations Poet Laureate
March 02 2014, 01:54PM
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Retsinnab5 wrote:

My prediction: Smyth gets traded to a top 4 team for a 4th round pick, then in the summer he resigns for 1 more year with Edmonton

I'd rather see a 1-day contract so Smytty can retire an Oiler, but another year, sorry but God No.*

*Let it be known that I have always loved Smytty, but there comes a time when you realize the time has come to hang em up, and that time was September 2013.

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#11 Taylor Gang
March 02 2014, 01:55PM
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Who cares what Smyth does. Who cares what happens to this team anymore. This is the worst I have ever felt in regards to being a fan.

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#12 Rama Lama
March 02 2014, 02:24PM
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When Smyth is your most consistent player overall I think you have a lot to worry about.

I for one will be extremely worried how bad we will lose games when Smyth gets moved......if he gets moved. It's sad to say but good players are always wanted and I suppose that some smart GM will make a move for him.

He is fit and ready to contribute to some team that has a good system in place. We all know that there is no system of play in Edmonton, that much is obvious.

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#13 Tuningout
March 02 2014, 02:25PM
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Taylor Gang wrote:

Who cares what Smyth does. Who cares what happens to this team anymore. This is the worst I have ever felt in regards to being a fan.

Amen brother. Amazing how many people still care. Change is needed.

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#14 Gofucoffee
March 02 2014, 02:27PM
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Maybe we can package Hall Nuge Ebs Yak and Smitty for Johnny Toews? Sorry prob not enough. What a beauty, I'll throw in three years of first rounders to get that done.

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#15 Rod from Viking
March 02 2014, 02:38PM
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Gofucoffee wrote:

Maybe we can package Hall Nuge Ebs Yak and Smitty for Johnny Toews? Sorry prob not enough. What a beauty, I'll throw in three years of first rounders to get that done.

We would probably have to take back Keith and Hossa as well to make it fit under the cap for the Hawks (lol)

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#16 admiralmark
March 02 2014, 02:43PM
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If Smytty gets a shot to go on a Cup run with another team thats great! Its not a tear jerker moment. The guy has one last kick at the can might as well give him a shot if you can? If Smytty says yes then macT should facilitate it any way possible.

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#17 Walter Sobchak
March 02 2014, 02:47PM
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I wonder if St. Louis show's a little interest in Smyth?

I can see Smyth taking Paajarvi or Reaves place.

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#18 Rod from Viking
March 02 2014, 02:49PM
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Ottawa could sure use Gagner to bolster their scoring and give them a 2 way center, should be easy to get Lazar Phillips and a 2nd. (lol)

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#19 toprightcorner
March 02 2014, 03:02PM
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I hope Smyth scores 2 PP goals on Tues for the team record, then goes to one of Boston, Chicago, St. Louis or LA and wins a cup. Then he signs in Edmonton for a day and retires as an Oiler.

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#20 ?
March 02 2014, 03:03PM
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Rod from Viking wrote:

Ottawa could sure use Gagner to bolster their scoring and give them a 2 way center, should be easy to get Lazar Phillips and a 2nd. (lol)

"2 way center"

lmao

#gagsblows

:)

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#21 Sevenseven
March 02 2014, 03:22PM
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For christ sakes, if the guy doesnt want to leave, do not trade him. Let him retire an Oiler. It looks horrible to the rest of the league if you push a vetern guy out. The flames handled kipper with respect, lets do the same. Only push smyth out if he wants to go. I hope a contender does ask for him, and he agrees to go. Then hire him back for one day to retire him as an Oiler, and hopefully with a stanley cup ring on his finger.

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#22 Rod from Viking
March 02 2014, 03:25PM
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Sevenseven wrote:

For christ sakes, if the guy doesnt want to leave, do not trade him. Let him retire an Oiler. It looks horrible to the rest of the league if you push a vetern guy out. The flames handled kipper with respect, lets do the same. Only push smyth out if he wants to go. I hope a contender does ask for him, and he agrees to go. Then hire him back for one day to retire him as an Oiler, and hopefully with a stanley cup ring on his finger.

I know he said he would be flattered if a contender wanted him but I don't know if he wants to go, you would think he would.

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#23 pelhem grenville
March 02 2014, 03:26PM
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retire = no airport '14

geesh!

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#24 Felix
March 02 2014, 03:28PM
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Give your head a shake. Oilers are the worst team in the NHL. It is not easy to be the worst. The players are not very good. Trades are you kidding me.

Bad team Bad players

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#25 Rod from Viking
March 02 2014, 03:28PM
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? wrote:

"2 way center"

lmao

#gagsblows

:)

I was being sarcastic, he is a way too easy to play against and way too slow of a center, that is as close as he gets.

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#26 Boys on the Short Bus
March 02 2014, 03:29PM
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Off topic. Best soundbite of the Heritage Classic. Pat Quinn walking the carpet before the game to greet the 1994 Stanley Cup Finalist Canucks (ha ha nucks don't even have a winner to parade before the 50 000 faithful). Anyways as Quinn does the handshake with the legendary Campbell Trophy winners, one player tells Quinn to be carful it's slippery. Quinn responds something like, I could get up I'm not Hitchcock. The only enjoyable part of being an Oilers fan this year....watching the Canucks go down in Flames. Love ya Mullet Man you deserved better than this season. Always thought he was a humble class act who was willing to do all dirty work the majority of current roster can't be bothered with. Hear lots of comment he is too slow, the game has passed him by. Very true but I never saw his work ethic and desire questioned.

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#27 Felix
March 02 2014, 03:30PM
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Felix wrote:

Give your head a shake. Oilers are the worst team in the NHL. It is not easy to be the worst. The players are not very good. Trades are you kidding me.

Bad team Bad players

Oilers got beat by a team Burke said there is only 1 players he would not trade.

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#28 Justin
March 02 2014, 03:34PM
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Since Oilers are not a real NHL team they should spot Oilers goals to make them feel better.

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#29 jake
March 02 2014, 03:35PM
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When I think of 94 and trade, I think of that post-trade death march in spring 2007, which then makes me think of that Bisaillon emergency call-up. I just read a french article on him, playing in Ligue Magnus in France. He said his best memory in his hockey career was playing in those 2 NHL games for the Oilers some 7 years ago, both losses to Vancouver and Colorado.

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#30 Thumby
March 02 2014, 03:41PM
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Hey - if getting a hand job from a bald headed fluffer between shifts is what makes Jagr the player he is, maybe Gregor would do the Nation a favor and get on the Oilers bench to give them a "helping hand"...??

(sorry Gregor!)

;D

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#31 Max
March 02 2014, 03:41PM
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I'd like to see #94 get a Stanley Cup, I'd like to have him resign and retire an Oiler, then be on the coaching staff. I'd like to never have to listen to Eakins spouting off again (meaning he's gone) and I'd like the so called "young guns" to stop taking their fat salaries for granted and actually EARN the money. I'd like to hold my head high when saying I'm an Oilers' fan and I'd also like to win the lottery - right now there's more chance of that than anything else.

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#32 Robert Fraser
March 02 2014, 03:42PM
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Nelson wrote:

How does KLowe Mact, Smith, and Buchberger look at themselves in the mirror?

Simple......Larry, Moe and Curly Nuck Nuck!

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#33 Mason Storm
March 02 2014, 04:08PM
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Max wrote:

I'd like to see #94 get a Stanley Cup, I'd like to have him resign and retire an Oiler, then be on the coaching staff. I'd like to never have to listen to Eakins spouting off again (meaning he's gone) and I'd like the so called "young guns" to stop taking their fat salaries for granted and actually EARN the money. I'd like to hold my head high when saying I'm an Oilers' fan and I'd also like to win the lottery - right now there's more chance of that than anything else.

If you mean the draft lottery, then yeah, there's a great chance at winning that

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#34 Bushed77
March 02 2014, 04:12PM
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How about Smyth and Hemmer to the same playoff team?

Game 7 SCF in the third OT, coach puts them out together on a hunch and Hemmer feeds Smytty for a side of the goal-mouth tap-in!

That would be poetic on so many levels...

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#35 Rod from Viking
March 02 2014, 04:22PM
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@Boys on the Short Bus

Those are funny comments about Canucks, very true about Smitty , the Canuck coaching and management are trying to take over from the Oilers with their bone head contracts and decisions, I can see this team becoming a place players won't want to go as well and missing the play-offs for a few years.

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#36 RexHolez
March 02 2014, 04:28PM
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Oilers have bigger problems to worry about than getting some sort of mid pick for smytty. He can do whatever he wants. Now, the real question is how is this team gonna win games next year?? Looks like they'll win 25 this year. What's the plan to get this team out of being the emberassment that it is??

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#37 Dangilitis
March 02 2014, 04:37PM
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I honestly just hope that whatever happens to Smytty, it is on his terms. He is owed that. Watching last year's Iginla saga, it was clear that the Flames did right by him. Was probably bad for business (the Bruins deal was a better one, and looks silly now that he's a big bad Bruin), but no one was really laughing at the Flames for poor management.

What happened to Smyth 7 years was the first of many black marks for this organization, and trading away the last 2 players from the 05-06 cup run for magic beans while they remain competent players within assigned roles, will surely be a symbolic way to show the city how far this team has fallen (as if we didn't have enough reminders).

To those who expevt Smyth to be the Smytty of old, then call him past his "best before date" if you must. But as a 4th line WINGER (that's right, not center), I would like to see him back for 1 more year.

But if he is traded, let's all wish that he can finally deliver on what he promised at that airport 7 years ago.

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#38 RexHolez
March 02 2014, 04:44PM
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Dangilitis wrote:

I honestly just hope that whatever happens to Smytty, it is on his terms. He is owed that. Watching last year's Iginla saga, it was clear that the Flames did right by him. Was probably bad for business (the Bruins deal was a better one, and looks silly now that he's a big bad Bruin), but no one was really laughing at the Flames for poor management.

What happened to Smyth 7 years was the first of many black marks for this organization, and trading away the last 2 players from the 05-06 cup run for magic beans while they remain competent players within assigned roles, will surely be a symbolic way to show the city how far this team has fallen (as if we didn't have enough reminders).

To those who expevt Smyth to be the Smytty of old, then call him past his "best before date" if you must. But as a 4th line WINGER (that's right, not center), I would like to see him back for 1 more year.

But if he is traded, let's all wish that he can finally deliver on what he promised at that airport 7 years ago.

Lets go over those black marks.... We'll call it Kevin Lowes resume......

Pronger, Smytty, Souray, Comrie. 2tier fans.... Etc

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#39 @Oilanderp
March 02 2014, 04:45PM
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You deserve a Cup™ Smytty! I hope you beat Hemmer's team in the finals!

Gob help us all.

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#40 Rod from Viking
March 02 2014, 04:56PM
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Did anyone else enjoy the Canucks loss to Ottawa?

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#41 Derian Hatcher
March 02 2014, 05:18PM
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Rod from Viking wrote:

Did anyone else enjoy the Canucks loss to Ottawa?

I loved it. Typical torts team. Looks good on all of them. I particularly enjoyed all of the flashbacks to '94 when they won ....well nothing. Now, before all of the nucks fans tell me how many presidents trophies the Canucks have won and that the Oilers suck...I'm fully aware. Hey torts how's that shot blocking working for ya? We ll give you Gagner and Alex Plante's practice jersey for Torts' practice plans for the last two years.

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#42 Chambers
March 02 2014, 05:20PM
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As a Flames fan I would like to see the other 29 GM's lobby the NHL to ban the Oilers from drafting first overall AGAIN! This is getting ridiculous and shattering dreams of yet another young star should be a non starter!

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#43 Zarny
March 02 2014, 05:37PM
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There is certainly a market for Smyth. He is this year's Brendan Morrow. Well past his prime but experienced, battle tested and versatile. Exactly the type of depth and injury insurance contenders are looking for. It's not a blockbuster deal and I wouldn't expect any tears from Smyth.

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#44 Oiler Al
March 02 2014, 05:42PM
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Bushed77 wrote:

How about Smyth and Hemmer to the same playoff team?

Game 7 SCF in the third OT, coach puts them out together on a hunch and Hemmer feeds Smytty for a side of the goal-mouth tap-in!

That would be poetic on so many levels...

Wont happen, Hemsky goes off side coming over the blue line and turns the puck over in the corner.

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#45 Oiler Al
March 02 2014, 05:42PM
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Bushed77 wrote:

How about Smyth and Hemmer to the same playoff team?

Game 7 SCF in the third OT, coach puts them out together on a hunch and Hemmer feeds Smytty for a side of the goal-mouth tap-in!

That would be poetic on so many levels...

Wont happen, Hemsky goes off side coming over the blue line and turns the puck over in the corner.

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#46 ?
March 02 2014, 05:46PM
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Rod from Viking wrote:

I was being sarcastic, he is a way too easy to play against and way too slow of a center, that is as close as he gets.

Lol I know you were being sarcastic :)

I was just ready to continue dumping on Gagner. It's as more fun than watching this team play..

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#47 ?
March 02 2014, 05:49PM
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Thumby wrote:

Hey - if getting a hand job from a bald headed fluffer between shifts is what makes Jagr the player he is, maybe Gregor would do the Nation a favor and get on the Oilers bench to give them a "helping hand"...??

(sorry Gregor!)

;D

Knew a comment about that pic was coming eventually lol

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#48 Zarny
March 02 2014, 05:57PM
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Dangilitis wrote:

I honestly just hope that whatever happens to Smytty, it is on his terms. He is owed that. Watching last year's Iginla saga, it was clear that the Flames did right by him. Was probably bad for business (the Bruins deal was a better one, and looks silly now that he's a big bad Bruin), but no one was really laughing at the Flames for poor management.

What happened to Smyth 7 years was the first of many black marks for this organization, and trading away the last 2 players from the 05-06 cup run for magic beans while they remain competent players within assigned roles, will surely be a symbolic way to show the city how far this team has fallen (as if we didn't have enough reminders).

To those who expevt Smyth to be the Smytty of old, then call him past his "best before date" if you must. But as a 4th line WINGER (that's right, not center), I would like to see him back for 1 more year.

But if he is traded, let's all wish that he can finally deliver on what he promised at that airport 7 years ago.

What nonsense. The Oilers offered Smyth 4-6 years @ $5-5.5M when he was 32.

He chose to leave for 5 yr @ $6.25M and only put up 37, 59, 53, 47 and 46 pts. Smyth was still more than competent but certainly didn't live up to that contract.

As for magic beans they got a 15th overall draft pick and two prospects each drafted 15th overall in the 1st round. They didn't work out but three 15th overall prospects/picks for an expiring contract was good return.

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#49 Oiltown3000
March 02 2014, 06:03PM
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Ryan Smyth might get traded to Blues or Blackhawks I'm guessing. But honestly I don't care, I don't think anyone cares because we want the Oilers in the playoffs and our team might be the exact same next year which means another year of losing. MacT said he wants the draft picks back which means that we aren't getting players that we NEED from what we're trading away. I doubt anyone would want to sign here except for rookies because our team sucks and most players want to be on a contending team.

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#50 **
March 02 2014, 06:09PM
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The Oilers have a grim, grim future ahead. Let's say Yak, Hall, Ebs and Nuge turn allright. LEt's say Justin SChultz figures it out. Let's say Scrivens is the real deal and Mac. T. keeps him. Gordon, PErron, Ference and Hendricks (and GAzdick at his particular job description) are game.

Let's even say Eakins figures it out too.

The Oilers still need the 2C that can play at both ends, the power winger, at least 2 more useful top 9 wingers who can score and check. A good back up goalie, and the most important, d men 1, 2 and 3. The Oilers don't have anything to trade for those guys without subtracting where it hurts. They are unable to attract top free agents. They have sucked at drafting top prospects outside the first overall pick.

IF they only started to get it right last summer, we're looking at at least 3 years before they can ice a competitive team.

This is not me being negative, this is not me pouncing on management, this is me just stringing some facts together.

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