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Lowetide
March 02 2014 01:24PM


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Captain Canada. Mr. Oiler. Ryan freaking Smyth. Does he want to go? Can we endure one more airport moment? Is there a market? Oh my. This again.

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He's a part of us, just like Groat Road or the Wee Book Inn or Wanye or potholes are a part of us. Ryan Smyth is the kid who wanted so badly to be an Oiler and had his dream come true. His tearful exit years ago is a distant bell, but if there's a market—and he's willing—will we repeat the ordeal?

Oiler fans may not have a choice.

IS THERE A MARKET?

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Probably. Smyth is playing a depth role but has delivered offense in that role, and his possession numbers are well clear of most other Oilers. Smyth is having a good season


THE VOLLMAN SLEDGEHAHMMER

    (CORSI REL)

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This graph compares Smyth to his own teammates (Corsi Rel) in terms of shot differential. It shows us that he's playing tougher opposition and his zone starts are severe. This is the uphill battle area of the graph -- Smyth, Gordon, Hemsky and Perron are facing tough opps AND starting in their own zone a lot. Smyth's bubble color is rich blue, telling us he's doing an exceptional job compared to his teammates.

He's not perfect. Smyth's 5x5 offense is well down the list, but then again those zone starts and quality of competition impact those numbers in a big way.

Smyth is playing 15:30 a game in Edmonton, getting EV, PP and PK time every game. A contending team wouldn't necessarily need to use him as much, and Smyth might be a more effective player.


WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

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These old guys may need a little extra TLC, but come in handy at playoff time. For an NHL team looking for an inexpensive veteran, Ryan Smyth looks like a viable option.

Just don't ask me to drive him to the airport. Or wave goodbye again.

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#1 Taylor Gang
March 02 2014, 01:55PM
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Who cares what Smyth does. Who cares what happens to this team anymore. This is the worst I have ever felt in regards to being a fan.

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#2 Nelson
March 02 2014, 01:41PM
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How does KLowe Mact, Smith, and Buchberger look at themselves in the mirror?

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#3 Jerry
March 02 2014, 01:36PM
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What does it all mean? What does it matter ? Oilers are not an NHL team. They ruin players. Stats are for losers. Results matter.

Oilers organization do a lot of talking , saying all the right things. Watch my feet not my mouth. They are losers.

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#4 godot10
March 02 2014, 01:35PM
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If he's playing next year, he will be playing in Edmonton, so why don't you want to give him a shot a winning the Stanley Cup.

He'll b gone for 19 games.

And then be back next September.

What's the problem with that?

Reverse Ruotsaleinen.

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#5 Tuningout
March 02 2014, 02:25PM
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Taylor Gang wrote:

Who cares what Smyth does. Who cares what happens to this team anymore. This is the worst I have ever felt in regards to being a fan.

Amen brother. Amazing how many people still care. Change is needed.

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#6 toprightcorner
March 02 2014, 03:02PM
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I hope Smyth scores 2 PP goals on Tues for the team record, then goes to one of Boston, Chicago, St. Louis or LA and wins a cup. Then he signs in Edmonton for a day and retires as an Oiler.

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#7 horndog77
March 02 2014, 01:42PM
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I'm sure the Oilers could get a lot of playoff teams to pony up a fifth round pick for Smyth. He's the type of player teams want for depth for a long playoff run. I'm sure he would like another chance of winning the cup as well.

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#8 Oliveoiler
March 02 2014, 07:34PM
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Smytty is the only player on the roster who is the true example of loyal to the Oil. Many of them should be boiled in oil.

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#9 Tuningout
March 02 2014, 01:37PM
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I hep Smyth goes. For his sake. Go have fun winning. Sign here in the offseason if he still wants. Poor guy. Even his family must be seriously looking at -30 in March and going on Google looking at other options

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#10 Dog Train
March 02 2014, 09:21PM
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I think the decision should be up to Smyth. If he wants to go take one last shot at the cup, then best of luck to us. If he wants to go down with the ship, then I hope he announces that he will retire at season's end so we can send him off with one last tearful hurrah. It's really sad that they twilight of his career is being wasted on such a circus squad.

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#11 Rod from Viking
March 02 2014, 04:56PM
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Did anyone else enjoy the Canucks loss to Ottawa?

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#12 Boys on the Short Bus
March 02 2014, 03:29PM
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Off topic. Best soundbite of the Heritage Classic. Pat Quinn walking the carpet before the game to greet the 1994 Stanley Cup Finalist Canucks (ha ha nucks don't even have a winner to parade before the 50 000 faithful). Anyways as Quinn does the handshake with the legendary Campbell Trophy winners, one player tells Quinn to be carful it's slippery. Quinn responds something like, I could get up I'm not Hitchcock. The only enjoyable part of being an Oilers fan this year....watching the Canucks go down in Flames. Love ya Mullet Man you deserved better than this season. Always thought he was a humble class act who was willing to do all dirty work the majority of current roster can't be bothered with. Hear lots of comment he is too slow, the game has passed him by. Very true but I never saw his work ethic and desire questioned.

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#13 Retsinnab5
March 02 2014, 01:43PM
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My prediction: Smyth gets traded to a top 4 team for a 4th round pick, then in the summer he resigns for 1 more year with Edmonton

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#14 Oilers G- Nations Poet Laureate
March 02 2014, 01:54PM
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Retsinnab5 wrote:

My prediction: Smyth gets traded to a top 4 team for a 4th round pick, then in the summer he resigns for 1 more year with Edmonton

I'd rather see a 1-day contract so Smytty can retire an Oiler, but another year, sorry but God No.*

*Let it be known that I have always loved Smytty, but there comes a time when you realize the time has come to hang em up, and that time was September 2013.

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#15 ?
March 02 2014, 03:03PM
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Rod from Viking wrote:

Ottawa could sure use Gagner to bolster their scoring and give them a 2 way center, should be easy to get Lazar Phillips and a 2nd. (lol)

"2 way center"

lmao

#gagsblows

:)

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#16 **
March 02 2014, 06:09PM
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The Oilers have a grim, grim future ahead. Let's say Yak, Hall, Ebs and Nuge turn allright. LEt's say Justin SChultz figures it out. Let's say Scrivens is the real deal and Mac. T. keeps him. Gordon, PErron, Ference and Hendricks (and GAzdick at his particular job description) are game.

Let's even say Eakins figures it out too.

The Oilers still need the 2C that can play at both ends, the power winger, at least 2 more useful top 9 wingers who can score and check. A good back up goalie, and the most important, d men 1, 2 and 3. The Oilers don't have anything to trade for those guys without subtracting where it hurts. They are unable to attract top free agents. They have sucked at drafting top prospects outside the first overall pick.

IF they only started to get it right last summer, we're looking at at least 3 years before they can ice a competitive team.

This is not me being negative, this is not me pouncing on management, this is me just stringing some facts together.

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#17 Jordan Nugent-Hallkins
March 02 2014, 10:20PM
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I think I'm finally ready to admit the rebuild has failed. Spectacularly, at that. The guy above is right: defense comes first. Draft Ekblad, wait for him and Nurse to develop, hopefully Marincin is the real deal and Klefbom can find the next gear. Try to keep J Schultz. Only problem is, Nuge and Hall will probably be approaching UFA by that point. Beg Nuge to sign an extension, try to convince Hall (I can't see it happening).

Unless Bold Moves pulls some unspeakable deals out of his ass this off season, we'll probably have a great shot at drafting McDavid next year. And it's pretty sad with how much certainty I say that.

Infinibuild 2.0™ will be McDavid and Nuge as our 1C/2C, with Ekblad and Nurse as our 1st D-line. Of course, this is all five or so years down the road, so buckle up.

Also, tell me I didn't just see Jagr's O-face...

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#18 Max
March 02 2014, 03:41PM
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I'd like to see #94 get a Stanley Cup, I'd like to have him resign and retire an Oiler, then be on the coaching staff. I'd like to never have to listen to Eakins spouting off again (meaning he's gone) and I'd like the so called "young guns" to stop taking their fat salaries for granted and actually EARN the money. I'd like to hold my head high when saying I'm an Oilers' fan and I'd also like to win the lottery - right now there's more chance of that than anything else.

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#19 God
March 02 2014, 07:13PM
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Oiltown3000 wrote:

I think Yak, RNH, and Hall would turn out to be awesome players because they are compared to:

RNH - Datsyuk

Yak - Stamkos

Hall - Messier

You're out of your mind. Get a psych assessment.

With the Oilers development staff, that'll never happen.

You're delusional.

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#20 Thumby
March 02 2014, 03:41PM
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Hey - if getting a hand job from a bald headed fluffer between shifts is what makes Jagr the player he is, maybe Gregor would do the Nation a favor and get on the Oilers bench to give them a "helping hand"...??

(sorry Gregor!)

;D

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#21 Chambers
March 02 2014, 05:20PM
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As a Flames fan I would like to see the other 29 GM's lobby the NHL to ban the Oilers from drafting first overall AGAIN! This is getting ridiculous and shattering dreams of yet another young star should be a non starter!

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#22 Rama Lama
March 02 2014, 02:24PM
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When Smyth is your most consistent player overall I think you have a lot to worry about.

I for one will be extremely worried how bad we will lose games when Smyth gets moved......if he gets moved. It's sad to say but good players are always wanted and I suppose that some smart GM will make a move for him.

He is fit and ready to contribute to some team that has a good system in place. We all know that there is no system of play in Edmonton, that much is obvious.

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#23 dangilitis
March 02 2014, 10:59PM
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Zarny wrote:

What nonsense. The Oilers offered Smyth 4-6 years @ $5-5.5M when he was 32.

He chose to leave for 5 yr @ $6.25M and only put up 37, 59, 53, 47 and 46 pts. Smyth was still more than competent but certainly didn't live up to that contract.

As for magic beans they got a 15th overall draft pick and two prospects each drafted 15th overall in the 1st round. They didn't work out but three 15th overall prospects/picks for an expiring contract was good return.

Are you 12 years old? No seriously, are you 12 years old, cause that would have made you 5 years old when he was traded and that could explain your complete and total lack of comprehension of what transpired.

Smyth didn't choose to leave. It was called a negotiation and yes his agent was playing hardball but Lowe panicked or wanted to look tough or whatever the case was, but he traded him. Did Smyth really look like he wanted to leave? Again, I am not sure if you remember the scene in the airport that Lowetide referred to.

I'm glad you referred to that contract. Because Smyth was ready to sign in Edmonton for almost a million less per season at the time he was traded. What an a-hole he was. And you are a fool to think that posting points alone is the whole story. For the first 3 years he put up 149 pts in 199 games. In those last 2 seasons he played full 82 games and scored nearly 50 pts per season as he tipped over the age of 35. Seems about right to me. And that last season was a remarkable season for the Oilers given his age and how he was used. If you recall he started the season nearly PPG then got boat anchored on the 3rd line with Horcoff.

The 2 prospects we got drafted at 15th were far enough along to know that they weren't going to work out. With the unknown 15th overall pick, the odds of it becoming a player that plays a minimum of 200 games and scoring 0.5 ppg or better is just under 30%.

Yah, great trade.

So the only nonsense being spouted, I'm afraid, is from you. But nice try...

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#24 VK63
March 03 2014, 12:07AM
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I would equate being traded from this team to being released from prison. Thus any tears shed by the old warrior will be of joy.

He has put in an admirable shift pulling the old stone boat, and is one of few who can lay his head down at night and make a case for earning his wages.

as for some of his co workers. thief comes to mind.

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#25 dangilitis
March 02 2014, 11:01PM
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Zarny wrote:

What nonsense. The Oilers offered Smyth 4-6 years @ $5-5.5M when he was 32.

He chose to leave for 5 yr @ $6.25M and only put up 37, 59, 53, 47 and 46 pts. Smyth was still more than competent but certainly didn't live up to that contract.

As for magic beans they got a 15th overall draft pick and two prospects each drafted 15th overall in the 1st round. They didn't work out but three 15th overall prospects/picks for an expiring contract was good return.

And seriously, if you want to hate on Smyth, you are not an Oilers fan. Honestly and truly, you might as well go to the Saddledome and buy a Byron jersey...

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#26 spliff
March 03 2014, 04:35AM
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The Oilers are truly screwed. KLoser let the worst GM in team history screw up the team for five years, and after he finally fires him, hires a rookie GM. MacT will eventually learn the ropes, but how long will this take? And why would KLowe hire a rookie GM, who will need to learn on the job, when he has a fed-up fanbase who want to see results from a wavering rebuild? Do KLowe and Katz even think about this stuff?

Then the rookie GM makes his first mistake, which he will never admit, by hiring a rookie coach. What a sh*tshow, and many of these mistakes could have been avoided with some simple foresight.

Add to this the fact the Oilers scouting department and player development is arguably the worst in the league. This is a recipe for finishing in lottery position year after year after year.

Ladies and Gentlemen, your Edmonton Oilers.

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#27 Bucknuck
March 03 2014, 11:24AM
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For the itty bitty return the Oil would get, i think that the franchise should show some respect and ask Ryan Smyth what he would like, and then honour that. Yeah, it's a business, but it's a PEOPLE business.

They talk about having pride for the uniform, but sometimes the pride is from the men who wear the uniform. As an Oiler fan I am proud that a player like Smytty wanted to come back here. Don't tarnish it, please, MacT.

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#28 Dangilitis
March 02 2014, 04:37PM
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I honestly just hope that whatever happens to Smytty, it is on his terms. He is owed that. Watching last year's Iginla saga, it was clear that the Flames did right by him. Was probably bad for business (the Bruins deal was a better one, and looks silly now that he's a big bad Bruin), but no one was really laughing at the Flames for poor management.

What happened to Smyth 7 years was the first of many black marks for this organization, and trading away the last 2 players from the 05-06 cup run for magic beans while they remain competent players within assigned roles, will surely be a symbolic way to show the city how far this team has fallen (as if we didn't have enough reminders).

To those who expevt Smyth to be the Smytty of old, then call him past his "best before date" if you must. But as a 4th line WINGER (that's right, not center), I would like to see him back for 1 more year.

But if he is traded, let's all wish that he can finally deliver on what he promised at that airport 7 years ago.

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#29 Sevenseven
March 02 2014, 03:22PM
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For christ sakes, if the guy doesnt want to leave, do not trade him. Let him retire an Oiler. It looks horrible to the rest of the league if you push a vetern guy out. The flames handled kipper with respect, lets do the same. Only push smyth out if he wants to go. I hope a contender does ask for him, and he agrees to go. Then hire him back for one day to retire him as an Oiler, and hopefully with a stanley cup ring on his finger.

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#30 Felix
March 02 2014, 03:28PM
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Give your head a shake. Oilers are the worst team in the NHL. It is not easy to be the worst. The players are not very good. Trades are you kidding me.

Bad team Bad players

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#31 Bushed77
March 02 2014, 04:12PM
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How about Smyth and Hemmer to the same playoff team?

Game 7 SCF in the third OT, coach puts them out together on a hunch and Hemmer feeds Smytty for a side of the goal-mouth tap-in!

That would be poetic on so many levels...

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#32 Derian Hatcher
March 02 2014, 05:18PM
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Rod from Viking wrote:

Did anyone else enjoy the Canucks loss to Ottawa?

I loved it. Typical torts team. Looks good on all of them. I particularly enjoyed all of the flashbacks to '94 when they won ....well nothing. Now, before all of the nucks fans tell me how many presidents trophies the Canucks have won and that the Oilers suck...I'm fully aware. Hey torts how's that shot blocking working for ya? We ll give you Gagner and Alex Plante's practice jersey for Torts' practice plans for the last two years.

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#33 dougtheslug
March 03 2014, 08:40AM
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Isn't it demoralizing that the Oilers are a lottery team and come to the 2014 draft with a first and fourth round pick and nothing else, and no forward prospects in OKC other than Lander, Arcobello, and Pitlick, whereas a team like Anaheim is a cup contender, has 2 firsts and 2 seconds in the 2014 draft and a boatload of decent prospects in Norfolk in the AHL. You can blame Tambo for some of this mess but MacT has been happily trading away picks as well, and MBS has not exactly been impressing with his picks of late. This organization is so amateurish it makes you want to cry.

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#34 admiralmark
March 02 2014, 02:43PM
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If Smytty gets a shot to go on a Cup run with another team thats great! Its not a tear jerker moment. The guy has one last kick at the can might as well give him a shot if you can? If Smytty says yes then macT should facilitate it any way possible.

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#35 Dalg
March 02 2014, 06:48PM
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That is the sweetest gif I have seen in a long time.

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#36 Gofucoffee
March 02 2014, 02:27PM
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Maybe we can package Hall Nuge Ebs Yak and Smitty for Johnny Toews? Sorry prob not enough. What a beauty, I'll throw in three years of first rounders to get that done.

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#37 Serious Gord
March 02 2014, 08:48PM
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Can he just retire and put us and himself out of our collective misery?

He's like old yeller out there (and Lowe tide is little Travis Coates).

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#38 JJ
March 03 2014, 05:34AM
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nuge2nail wrote:

Oiler Domination To Follow

Tambellini is the reason this rebuild has taken so long. Worst GM in NHL history... I'm serious statistically the worst ever.

MacT has been extremely active, and he will be judged IMO on the Gagner trade and how he spends the oilers 40+mil in cap space this offseason.

Interesting when you look at some of the guys who show heart and character each game are the ones Mact brought in :

Perron, Hendricks, Gordan, Gazdic, Scrivens

So when's the domination coming, sometime this century?

What a stupid intro comment. I guess these are the types referred to as 'Life long Oiler fans'.

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#39 Rod from Viking
March 02 2014, 02:49PM
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Ottawa could sure use Gagner to bolster their scoring and give them a 2 way center, should be easy to get Lazar Phillips and a 2nd. (lol)

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#40 Casey
March 02 2014, 09:45PM
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Smyth for Ryan Suter, and Zach Parise would be a steal for Minnesota. They get a very dynamic, high octane scorer and a guy younger the Saku Koivu

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#41 admiralmark
March 02 2014, 10:41PM
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Oiltown3000 wrote:

It's good to dream isn't it

Yes it is. Keep on dreamin buddy. You forgot J Shultz = Paul Coffey though.

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#42 Chambers
March 02 2014, 08:15PM
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** wrote:

The Oilers have a grim, grim future ahead. Let's say Yak, Hall, Ebs and Nuge turn allright. LEt's say Justin SChultz figures it out. Let's say Scrivens is the real deal and Mac. T. keeps him. Gordon, PErron, Ference and Hendricks (and GAzdick at his particular job description) are game.

Let's even say Eakins figures it out too.

The Oilers still need the 2C that can play at both ends, the power winger, at least 2 more useful top 9 wingers who can score and check. A good back up goalie, and the most important, d men 1, 2 and 3. The Oilers don't have anything to trade for those guys without subtracting where it hurts. They are unable to attract top free agents. They have sucked at drafting top prospects outside the first overall pick.

IF they only started to get it right last summer, we're looking at at least 3 years before they can ice a competitive team.

This is not me being negative, this is not me pouncing on management, this is me just stringing some facts together.

Unfortunately the future is far grimmer than you paint it above. Your assumptions of the players you mention working out may be impossible. You see these young stars who grew up in an environment of winning have been engrained far too long in an Oiler culture of losing that will take many many years to overcome. In case you haven't noticed many of them have already given up on the Oilers and crave a change of scenery so this affects performance and ultimately winning. Also Oiler management does not have the skill set to pull off the major trade and does not recognize that you need to give up quality to attain quality! What further complicates things is that Oiler management has overpaid the young stars at an early stage of development creating expectations from others (Justin Schultz) that they deserve the same value contract.

As all Oiler fans are aware ownership has stopped listening to the fan base. Oiler fans will continue to be frustrated and they certainly deserve better!

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#43 Alsker
March 02 2014, 11:26PM
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@Jordan Nugent-Hallkins

Unfortunately you're right on all points. Dont forget, the guys that f*cked up rebuild 1.0 are still the ones making the decisions on rebuild 2.0. I think you're right on your timeline of 5 years, just hope they(mgt) have the patience for it and dont panic causing rebuild 3.0(I"m too old for a 15 year rebuild)

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#44 Zarny
March 02 2014, 11:47PM
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dangilitis wrote:

Are you 12 years old? No seriously, are you 12 years old, cause that would have made you 5 years old when he was traded and that could explain your complete and total lack of comprehension of what transpired.

Smyth didn't choose to leave. It was called a negotiation and yes his agent was playing hardball but Lowe panicked or wanted to look tough or whatever the case was, but he traded him. Did Smyth really look like he wanted to leave? Again, I am not sure if you remember the scene in the airport that Lowetide referred to.

I'm glad you referred to that contract. Because Smyth was ready to sign in Edmonton for almost a million less per season at the time he was traded. What an a-hole he was. And you are a fool to think that posting points alone is the whole story. For the first 3 years he put up 149 pts in 199 games. In those last 2 seasons he played full 82 games and scored nearly 50 pts per season as he tipped over the age of 35. Seems about right to me. And that last season was a remarkable season for the Oilers given his age and how he was used. If you recall he started the season nearly PPG then got boat anchored on the 3rd line with Horcoff.

The 2 prospects we got drafted at 15th were far enough along to know that they weren't going to work out. With the unknown 15th overall pick, the odds of it becoming a player that plays a minimum of 200 games and scoring 0.5 ppg or better is just under 30%.

Yah, great trade.

So the only nonsense being spouted, I'm afraid, is from you. But nice try...

I'd point out the obvious question of are you dumb but the answer is rhetorical.

Lowe panicked? Good grief, this isn't the Kardashians.

Yes, it was a negotiation. The Oilers offered 4-6 yrs @ $5M before the season started and Smyth turned it down. They offered closer to $5.5M over the same term during the year and Smyth didn't take it. He wanted more and the Oilers weren't willing to overpay. So they did what virtually every team does with an expiring contract they can't resign and traded him.

That's not panic; that's basic asset management.

Smyth's performance didn't warrant what the Oilers offered let alone what he signed for. Sorry but that's just how it went. That doesn't mean he was a bad player but he didn't live up to $5.5M let alone $6.25M.

And no it didn't turn out to be a good trade but most trades don't. That doesn't change the fact the Oilers got 3 15th overall prospects and picks out of the Islanders for what turned out to be a rental. Making a bad selection with the pick doesn't make it bad return.

Get a grip.

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#45 Walter Sobchak
March 03 2014, 09:28AM
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Zarny wrote:

I'd point out the obvious question of are you dumb but the answer is rhetorical.

Lowe panicked? Good grief, this isn't the Kardashians.

Yes, it was a negotiation. The Oilers offered 4-6 yrs @ $5M before the season started and Smyth turned it down. They offered closer to $5.5M over the same term during the year and Smyth didn't take it. He wanted more and the Oilers weren't willing to overpay. So they did what virtually every team does with an expiring contract they can't resign and traded him.

That's not panic; that's basic asset management.

Smyth's performance didn't warrant what the Oilers offered let alone what he signed for. Sorry but that's just how it went. That doesn't mean he was a bad player but he didn't live up to $5.5M let alone $6.25M.

And no it didn't turn out to be a good trade but most trades don't. That doesn't change the fact the Oilers got 3 15th overall prospects and picks out of the Islanders for what turned out to be a rental. Making a bad selection with the pick doesn't make it bad return.

Get a grip.

Lowe got hosed here as New York received Smyth, who was still in his prime, the Oilers received almost nothing. Nilsson had a terrible work ethic & Lowe had to call his DAD to come help. O’Marra was injuried prior to even coming to the Oilers, and while Plante is just an accumulation of fail on Lowes behalf, the Oilers could have picked almost anybody past 15th and got a player.

You are forgetting the whole point of Smyth being traded in the first place; Smyth wanted 5.7 after GIVING the OILERS a home town discount (3.1) for his whole career. Smyth stood firm LOWE TRADED HIM OVER 100 K…………………………………….

That’s Lowe for you.

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/oilers-regret-having-to-trade-ryan-smyth-1.644367

http://lowetide.ca/blog/2008/02/smyth-trade-revisited.html

Lousing up the Mike Comrie for Corey Perry trade by asking at the 11th hour that Anaheim reimburse the Oilers for Comrie’s signing bonus. Just incase you forgot that one too.

This is also the same time the Oilers decided to whale hunt, letting players like Glencross go so they could try and buy players like Hossa, Nylander eta al.

This also is the time, to those that follow the Oilers close, the start of the first re-build.

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#46 Bucknuck
March 03 2014, 11:44AM
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Noooo!!! wrote:

Sentimental actions are for amateur sports. This is a professional sport and therefore,a business.

Get everything and anything you can for Smyth or anyone else who is traded. They are being paid to do a job, and being paid well to do it...

My money gets spent because I have a sentimental attachment to the team. I don't want Smyth to go, unless he wants to. The only reason the Oilers have him is because he asked to be traded here and gave LA no room to negotiate.

As far as I am concerned, doing that should earn him the right to stay if he would like.

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#47 Felix
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Felix wrote:

Give your head a shake. Oilers are the worst team in the NHL. It is not easy to be the worst. The players are not very good. Trades are you kidding me.

Bad team Bad players

Oilers got beat by a team Burke said there is only 1 players he would not trade.

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#48 Robert Fraser
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Nelson wrote:

How does KLowe Mact, Smith, and Buchberger look at themselves in the mirror?

Simple.....as Larry, Moe and Curly........nuck nuck!

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#49 RexHolez
March 02 2014, 11:55PM
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Zarny wrote:

I'd point out the obvious question of are you dumb but the answer is rhetorical.

Lowe panicked? Good grief, this isn't the Kardashians.

Yes, it was a negotiation. The Oilers offered 4-6 yrs @ $5M before the season started and Smyth turned it down. They offered closer to $5.5M over the same term during the year and Smyth didn't take it. He wanted more and the Oilers weren't willing to overpay. So they did what virtually every team does with an expiring contract they can't resign and traded him.

That's not panic; that's basic asset management.

Smyth's performance didn't warrant what the Oilers offered let alone what he signed for. Sorry but that's just how it went. That doesn't mean he was a bad player but he didn't live up to $5.5M let alone $6.25M.

And no it didn't turn out to be a good trade but most trades don't. That doesn't change the fact the Oilers got 3 15th overall prospects and picks out of the Islanders for what turned out to be a rental. Making a bad selection with the pick doesn't make it bad return.

Get a grip.

yup, im glad Lowe didn't over pay and used that cap space on more important areas to stay competitive! oh, wait...

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#50 nuge2nail
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Oiler Domination To Follow

Tambellini is the reason this rebuild has taken so long. Worst GM in NHL history... I'm serious statistically the worst ever.

MacT has been extremely active, and he will be judged IMO on the Gagner trade and how he spends the oilers 40+mil in cap space this offseason.

Interesting when you look at some of the guys who show heart and character each game are the ones Mact brought in :

Perron, Hendricks, Gordan, Gazdic, Scrivens

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