GDB Wrap Up: Sabres @ Oilers

baggedmilk
March 20 2014 10:18PM

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Luckily no one gets relegated in the NHL. Final score: 3-1 Sabres

There is nothing that will fire up the Nation more than a 29th vs 30th place battle! Not so long ago (only 8 years *sigh*) I remember sitting at the bar with some buddies and trying to decide who I'd rather the Oilers play in the finals, Carolina or Buffalo. Fast forward to tonight and neither team have anything to play for except draft picks and spoiler statuses. A Sabres/Oilers game has all the allure of milking a tiger, and that is a sad state of affairs.

The Buffalo Sabres are a terrible hockey team. There were periods in this game where the Sabres looked like they would never win another hockey game - the suck knob has been broken clean off in Buffalo. With that being said, our suck knob has been broken for years. Even though there were stints (short ones) where the Oilers dominated the hockey game, they lost to the FUNKIN' SABRES!  Losing to the Sabres is 10 shades of awful, yet we managed to accomplish it with all the style of a jalapeno shart.

Let's wrap this thing up...

The Bright Side

  • Ben Scrivens will stop pucks and break faces if he needs to
  • Justin Schultz has apparently learned about slap shots
  • Lots of AHLers got NHL pay cheques
  • The Power Play actually looked like an actual Power Play

The Face Palmers

  • Losing to the Sabres should result in 50 lashes and not the sexy kind either
  • The safe word for Oilers name is the sound of weeping adults
  • The shorthanded 2 on 1s are almost comical at this point
  • Getting booed because you lost to the Sabres is bad news
  • Ales Hemsky may have scored the goal of the year *sigh*

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#101 Jordan Nugent-Hallkins
March 21 2014, 09:34AM
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Gagner will learn defence.

When they trade him to the Kings.

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#102 BingBong
March 21 2014, 09:36AM
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Eric Staal might be availabe this summer per TSN. Yak, Gagner and our 1st for E. Staal? BOLD.

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#103 TKB2677
March 21 2014, 09:37AM
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I have a question that I hope people will answer.

For all those people that bitch and moan every time Hemsky does something good or scores a point for the Senators. What would you rather?

Hemsky stay for the month and a half that was left in the season at the deadline with the Oilers, finish the season. Then in the offseason just walk away and the Oilers get NOTHING for him or trade him at the deadline like they did and get a much as they could?

I'd really love to hear people's answers because lets be frank. He's playing to his capabilities with the Sens because he's excited to play hockey again and he's excited to play hockey for a team that is in the playoff hunt. If he had stayed with the Oilers, Hemsky would of played EXACTLY like he was this whole season. Brief flashes but overall sick of losing and playing relatively disinterested.

Hemsky wasn't resigning with the Oilers. He said he was heading to free agency. HE WAS NOT GOING TO RESIGN. So is it not better to get at least something for the asset rather than NOTHING?

I don't understand why people can't understand that.

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#104 Jordan Nugent-Hallkins
March 21 2014, 09:37AM
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After Nashville's comments about Dubnyk, I think one of the best things the Oilers could do is replacing the goalie coach. I don't want Chabot anywhere near Scrivens.

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#105 Jamesrob56
March 21 2014, 09:38AM
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This was an important game to tank on... 4 points at stake in the race to the bottom, and with a large spread to overcome.

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#106 Jay from YYC
March 21 2014, 09:38AM
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Pouzar99 wrote:

I hope the mysterious flock of 'new,' rah rah "Oilers are great" posters tone it down a bit, now. Yes, the boys have played better lately I'm glad to say but this is a painful reminder of just how bad and utterly uninspired they can still be at the drop of a hat. A 29th place team that takes the 30th place team for granted has a lot of Chutzpah.

Frankly, Scrivens did very well to hold it to three goals. Apart from Hall, who skated a few million miles, the rest seemed to think that showing up would be enough. This may have been their ugliest game of the year, which is really saying something. If they play like that against the Ducks or Sharks, small children will have to be refused admission.

The Oilers are still a long, long way from being a playoff team, let alone competing for anything more, especially as long as the strategically-impaired head coach is grinding the line shifts out of a blender, as Eakins was again tonight. Hopefully no one will dig up an arcane statistic to claim the team is actually improving under Eakins. I concede that the anthem singing is better, but I think that covers it. Every single one of our young 'stars' has regressed under his tutelage. If there is a stronger ground for firing a coach I would like to know what that is.

@Pouzar99

"A 29th place team that takes the 30th place team for granted has a lot of Chutzpah."

Couldn't have said it better myself. And you really can't rely solely on Hall to get the team some goals/wins. There are other guys on the team that should also feel that kind of responsibility.

On the bright side, now we know that when the next line brawl happens, Scrivens will get it in woohooo

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#107 GriffCity
March 21 2014, 09:39AM
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I honestly dies laughing for a minute when i saw Connacher put on Scott's helmet. What a beauty move, who could help but to laugh. Then The little gy goes out and daggers the Oil right in the heart with 2 beans. Im happy for BUF, Oilers are such a bad hockey team, im embarrassed. The Vanekless, Moulsonless, Ottless, Millerless, Myersless Sabres just beat our mostly healthy Oilers on home ice. Nothing like helping a team snap a losing streak hey Oilers? Good job boys..Go kill yourselves

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#108 Shifty203
March 21 2014, 09:40AM
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BingBong wrote:

Eric Staal might be availabe this summer per TSN. Yak, Gagner and our 1st for E. Staal? BOLD.

Eric Staal might be availabe this summer per TSN. Yak, Gagner and our 1st for E. Staal? PIPEDREAM

*Fixed that for you*

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#109 Spydyr
March 21 2014, 09:44AM
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TKB2677 wrote:

I have a question that I hope people will answer.

For all those people that bitch and moan every time Hemsky does something good or scores a point for the Senators. What would you rather?

Hemsky stay for the month and a half that was left in the season at the deadline with the Oilers, finish the season. Then in the offseason just walk away and the Oilers get NOTHING for him or trade him at the deadline like they did and get a much as they could?

I'd really love to hear people's answers because lets be frank. He's playing to his capabilities with the Sens because he's excited to play hockey again and he's excited to play hockey for a team that is in the playoff hunt. If he had stayed with the Oilers, Hemsky would of played EXACTLY like he was this whole season. Brief flashes but overall sick of losing and playing relatively disinterested.

Hemsky wasn't resigning with the Oilers. He said he was heading to free agency. HE WAS NOT GOING TO RESIGN. So is it not better to get at least something for the asset rather than NOTHING?

I don't understand why people can't understand that.

I get all that and said it many times.I'm just happy he is free from the toxic environment "The braintrust" has created here.Sail on Pardubice prince.

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#110 elgruntus
March 21 2014, 09:46AM
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Pouzar99 wrote:

I hope the mysterious flock of 'new,' rah rah "Oilers are great" posters tone it down a bit, now. Yes, the boys have played better lately I'm glad to say but this is a painful reminder of just how bad and utterly uninspired they can still be at the drop of a hat. A 29th place team that takes the 30th place team for granted has a lot of Chutzpah.

Frankly, Scrivens did very well to hold it to three goals. Apart from Hall, who skated a few million miles, the rest seemed to think that showing up would be enough. This may have been their ugliest game of the year, which is really saying something. If they play like that against the Ducks or Sharks, small children will have to be refused admission.

The Oilers are still a long, long way from being a playoff team, let alone competing for anything more, especially as long as the strategically-impaired head coach is grinding the line shifts out of a blender, as Eakins was again tonight. Hopefully no one will dig up an arcane statistic to claim the team is actually improving under Eakins. I concede that the anthem singing is better, but I think that covers it. Every single one of our young 'stars' has regressed under his tutelage. If there is a stronger ground for firing a coach I would like to know what that is.

After years and years of reading these comments, someone finally pushes it too far and makes me create an account to respond! There is NO way that the anthem singer is better this year!!

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#111 Jordan Nugent-Hallkins
March 21 2014, 09:46AM
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Gazdic sure can throw the mitts though, his fights are high energy and he's always looking to land the big hook.

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#112 Spydyr
March 21 2014, 09:49AM
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Jordan Nugent-Hallkins wrote:

Gazdic sure can throw the mitts though, his fights are high energy and he's always looking to land the big hook.

Can we get him in a barn with Lowe?

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#113 Mo Playoffs Mo Problems
March 21 2014, 09:50AM
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TKB2677 wrote:

I have a question that I hope people will answer.

For all those people that bitch and moan every time Hemsky does something good or scores a point for the Senators. What would you rather?

Hemsky stay for the month and a half that was left in the season at the deadline with the Oilers, finish the season. Then in the offseason just walk away and the Oilers get NOTHING for him or trade him at the deadline like they did and get a much as they could?

I'd really love to hear people's answers because lets be frank. He's playing to his capabilities with the Sens because he's excited to play hockey again and he's excited to play hockey for a team that is in the playoff hunt. If he had stayed with the Oilers, Hemsky would of played EXACTLY like he was this whole season. Brief flashes but overall sick of losing and playing relatively disinterested.

Hemsky wasn't resigning with the Oilers. He said he was heading to free agency. HE WAS NOT GOING TO RESIGN. So is it not better to get at least something for the asset rather than NOTHING?

I don't understand why people can't understand that.

I agree with what you're saying, but I think fans are upset with how Hemsky as an asset was managed.

Flipping a former first round pick/proven NHLer for magic beans is a bit disappointing, even if the other option was watching him walk away for nothing.

Blame KLowe/Tambo for not moving him earlier in the rebuild for better assets or for giving him his contract (also for not supporting him with skilled leadership earlier in his career), or blame MacT for tipping his hand to the press and saying he wanted to move him. Either way, it doesn't really look great on the organization to let a proven NHLer with skill leave without much to show for it.

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#114 Czar
March 21 2014, 09:51AM
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Jordan Nugent-Hallkins wrote:

Gazdic sure can throw the mitts though, his fights are high energy and he's always looking to land the big hook.

Was just looking at that,14 majors and you know he'll add to that against Calgary.

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#115 ColourMeImpressed
March 21 2014, 09:52AM
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Spydyr wrote:

Can we get him in a barn with Lowe?

I don't think Lowe can sustain any more blows to the head. He might forget everything he ever knew about winning.

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#116 Spydyr
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Mo Playoffs Mo Problems wrote:

I agree with what you're saying, but I think fans are upset with how Hemsky as an asset was managed.

Flipping a former first round pick/proven NHLer for magic beans is a bit disappointing, even if the other option was watching him walk away for nothing.

Blame KLowe/Tambo for not moving him earlier in the rebuild for better assets or for giving him his contract (also for not supporting him with skilled leadership earlier in his career), or blame MacT for tipping his hand to the press and saying he wanted to move him. Either way, it doesn't really look great on the organization to let a proven NHLer with skill leave without much to show for it.

"The Braintrust" can't even get the cheerleaders right.

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#117 Spydyr
March 21 2014, 09:53AM
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ColourMeImpressed wrote:

I don't think Lowe can sustain any more blows to the head. He might forget everything he ever knew about winning.

That was my hope because what he does know sure isn't working.

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#118 BingBong
March 21 2014, 09:57AM
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Shifty203 wrote:

Eric Staal might be availabe this summer per TSN. Yak, Gagner and our 1st for E. Staal? PIPEDREAM

*Fixed that for you*

Ha, thanks. What do ya think it would take to get him?

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#119 Mo Playoffs Mo Problems
March 21 2014, 10:03AM
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@Spydyr

I could just imagine KLowe's response to a question about the Octane in a press conference:

"I think it's pretty safe to say that half the teams in the league would trade our cheerleaders for theirs. There’s one other guy I believe in hockey today, that is still working in the game, that has won more Stanley Cups than me, so I think I know a little bit about sexy outfits. If that’s ever a concern..."

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#120 exsanguinator
March 21 2014, 10:06AM
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Jordan Nugent-Hallkins wrote:

After Nashville's comments about Dubnyk, I think one of the best things the Oilers could do is replacing the goalie coach. I don't want Chabot anywhere near Scrivens.

What did he have to say about Dubnyk?

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#121 mesa
March 21 2014, 10:09AM
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BingBong wrote:

Ha, thanks. What do ya think it would take to get him?

yak,gagner and 1st? that is too much for him i think.

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#122 Spydyr
March 21 2014, 10:09AM
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Mo Playoffs Mo Problems wrote:

I could just imagine KLowe's response to a question about the Octane in a press conference:

"I think it's pretty safe to say that half the teams in the league would trade our cheerleaders for theirs. There’s one other guy I believe in hockey today, that is still working in the game, that has won more Stanley Cups than me, so I think I know a little bit about sexy outfits. If that’s ever a concern..."

Where have we heard that before?

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#123 BingBong
March 21 2014, 10:09AM
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exsanguinator wrote:

What did he have to say about Dubnyk?

That he had some BAD habits, like you know, not been able to stop a puck.

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#124 russ99
March 21 2014, 10:09AM
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@redhot1

"There should be an entire solid veteran possession line providing shelter for the creampuffs that is completely absent at present. Also, the bottom six needs to be filled out with competent bums rather than possession holes who would have a hard time finding work on a decent AHL team."

I've been saying that for years. Maybe this summer we actually get that...

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#125 Dodd
March 21 2014, 10:12AM
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Mo Playoffs Mo Problems wrote:

I agree with what you're saying, but I think fans are upset with how Hemsky as an asset was managed.

Flipping a former first round pick/proven NHLer for magic beans is a bit disappointing, even if the other option was watching him walk away for nothing.

Blame KLowe/Tambo for not moving him earlier in the rebuild for better assets or for giving him his contract (also for not supporting him with skilled leadership earlier in his career), or blame MacT for tipping his hand to the press and saying he wanted to move him. Either way, it doesn't really look great on the organization to let a proven NHLer with skill leave without much to show for it.

So Tambellini moves Hemsky in 2011 (for 2 slightly better picks plus a prospect). Hemsky goes on to play like he is today. Entire fanbase want Tambellini legless for not keeping Hemsky.

Moving a player like Hemsky who was clearly finished playing inspired hockey for Edmonton is a no-win situation.

Everyone angry for not moving him sooner would be angry that we moved him then, too. The Hemsky that Ottawa got would never be the Hemsky that played for us. Losing ate his soul as an Oiler. We traded our broken toy to another kid, who replaced the batteries.

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#126 Spydyr
March 21 2014, 10:16AM
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Dodd wrote:

So Tambellini moves Hemsky in 2011 (for 2 slightly better picks plus a prospect). Hemsky goes on to play like he is today. Entire fanbase want Tambellini legless for not keeping Hemsky.

Moving a player like Hemsky who was clearly finished playing inspired hockey for Edmonton is a no-win situation.

Everyone angry for not moving him sooner would be angry that we moved him then, too. The Hemsky that Ottawa got would never be the Hemsky that played for us. Losing ate his soul as an Oiler. We traded our broken toy to another kid, who replaced the batteries.

Great metaphor.They Oilers have not fixed a broken toy since Sather.

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#127 TKB2677
March 21 2014, 10:19AM
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@Mo Playoffs Mo Problems

Name a UFA this offseason that got any team a ton in return?

Matt Moulson & Cody McCormick for Torrey Mitchell, 2nd 2014, 2nd 2016. So McCormick & Mitchell are both 3rd- 4th liners so they are a sway. So Moulson got 2nds. 1 is 2 years from now.

David Legwand for Patrick Eaves, prospect, 3rd 2014. So a 4th line player, a prospect and a 3rd.

Tuomo Ruutu for Andrei Loktinov and a conditional 2017 3rd. Loktinov looks to be a 3rd-4th that has a career high 8 goals.

Marcel Goc for 5th 2014 & 3rd 2015. Exactly the same as Hemsky and who's a very good 3rd line center/winger with some size.

Gaborik for Matt Frattin, 2nd in 2014 or 2015. Conditional 3rd 2014.

Lee Stempniak for 3rd 2014. Hemsky only has 1 goal and 4 points more.

Vanek & conditional 5th 2014 for some low end prospect and conditional 2nd 2014.

Other than Stempniak, I'd take any of those guys over Hemsky in a heart beat. The Vanek deal is a complete joke so I won't even count that as a comparible. Hemsky has more skill than Goc but Goc is bigger and can do more things that Hemsky. The rest are 30-40 goal scorers and a legit, very good second line center. They were traded for 3rd and 4th liners and low picks.

So how can you say the Oilers flipped a "former first round pick" from 13 yrs ago so who cares for "magic beans". That is what people were paying for players that were BETTER than Hemsky. When the Oilers finally traded him, he had 8 goals and 26 pts. On top of 3 or 4 years of being constantly injured and last season not being great. So seriously, take your Oilers glasses off and realize what he was worth. They tried trading him last year and they were offered even worse.

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#128 2004Z06
March 21 2014, 10:19AM
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Aw crap! Does this mean the parade is cancelled?

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#129 Mo Playoffs Mo Problems
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Dodd wrote:

So Tambellini moves Hemsky in 2011 (for 2 slightly better picks plus a prospect). Hemsky goes on to play like he is today. Entire fanbase want Tambellini legless for not keeping Hemsky.

Moving a player like Hemsky who was clearly finished playing inspired hockey for Edmonton is a no-win situation.

Everyone angry for not moving him sooner would be angry that we moved him then, too. The Hemsky that Ottawa got would never be the Hemsky that played for us. Losing ate his soul as an Oiler. We traded our broken toy to another kid, who replaced the batteries.

Yup. I guess I'm saying that personally I blame the organization for "breaking the toy" and putting themselves in a no-win position where they couldn't trade him for any value.

EDIT: Doesn't basically the entire fan base want Tambellini's legs anyhow?

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#130 majin_oil
March 21 2014, 10:23AM
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BobbyCanuck wrote:

Really? Picking on our cheerleaders? Stay classy dude, NOT.

They are the wholesome girls next door. Very analogous to our team, cause our team is predominantly made up of boys.

For example, Tandra (remember her from a few days ago? For some reason she has actually been seared into my long term memory) is 100% WOMAN, cheering for a team made up of men

Your comment doesn't even make freaken sense!!

First of all, Nashville is a younger team than Edmonton, secondly the Octane are awful on ALL levels.

Of course "Tandra" is seared into your memory! Want to know why... cause she's hot!!! (and probably cause you spent some after hours on google with her based on your comment).

Name me 1 octane girl off the top of your head... exactly

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#131 TKB2677
March 21 2014, 10:29AM
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@Dodd

Bang on buddy. I don't understand what the hell Oilers fan expect he was worth.

This season at the deadline 55GP, 9 goals, 26pts 2012-2013 38GP, 9 goals, 20pts 2011-2012 69GP, 10 goals, 36pts 2010-2011 47GP, 14 goals, 42pts 2009 2010 22GP, 7 goals, 22pts.

Plus the Oilers had to sign him to over 5 mill just to get him to stay his last contract.

Look at those numbers? Who the hell is going to say "please take my 1st rounder" for that guy based on the last 5 seasons of numbers. People need to stop thinking about Hemsky 6-7 years ago. The last decent season he had was 08-09 where he had 66 points. That's 6 seasons ago and several surgeries later.

Take your Oilers colored glasses off and use your heads, not your hearts people!!

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#132 RexHolez
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if you hired me to build you a house because I burnt down the one you were already living in, and 4 long years later while im finally starting to frame the foundation collapses, how long will you give me until you look for another contractor?

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#133 RexHolez
March 21 2014, 10:46AM
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im not mad that they traded hemmer to Ottawa this year for a 3rd rnd pick. Im mad that this team sucks and has been mismanaged so poorly for so long that they sucked the life out of him and were in the position to have to make that trade in the first place!

for the love of all things holy, end the pain, cut the cord and FIRE KEVIN LOWE!! you want drastic?? try changing up your assistant coaches after a couple consecutive last place finishes!! this team is laughably terrible!!

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#134 Mo Playoffs Mo Problems
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@TKB2677

Thanks for the recap of trade deadline activity across the league.

What I'm saying is that at the 2011 deadline, if Dustin Penner gets a former 1st rounder prospect (who turned out to be horrible but whatever), a 1st rounder and a 3rd rounder, then in 2011 Hemsky on an expiring contract would likely get at least a 1st round pick.

Tambo decided that return wasn't good enough and gave him $5mil/year for two years. Essentially the Oilers paid Hemsky nearly $10mil to hang out for another couple years so they could let him go for a smaller return.

Given the soft market for rental players, MacT did well getting what he did for him at this year's deadline, but I think a lot of people hoped that trading Hemsky would return a piece that would improve the team in the long run. Unless Stu pulls a rabbit out of the hat, then it's unlikely that the 3rd and 5th that they got for him will make the team any better in the next few years.

So I think that's the frustration: over the last few years, the organization didn't do enough to manage their asset or effectively improve the team.

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#135 A-Mc
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#136 Clyde Frog
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Two things...

1. Complaining about Hemsky's possible return 2 years ago is misleading because the team was focused on becoming a winner. The fact that they failed doesn't change that Hemsky being re-signable at the time changed the complexion of any deal, especially when even back then you are trading him for a chance at help in 2-3 years.

2. Hemsky seems to be getting off easy, sure the early season bomb was mostly goal tending, but he has been pretty uninspired since signing his deal. I am more upset that he couldn't be bothered to try harder and contribute positively for us....

Hemsky going away and doing well speaks volumes against his commitment to the Oilers and the serious issues with team culture/management that made him feel so disconnected.

Now I fear if the culture issues persist, how that impacts Yakupov who seems to be showing all the sames signs of having the talent but not wanting to bring it for some reason...

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#137 TKB2677
March 21 2014, 11:34AM
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@Mo Playoffs Mo Problems

Penner was traded at the deadline in 2011. At the time Penner was traded he had 21 goals and 39pts. Hemsky, who by the way was still playing on his previous contract in 2011 that paid him 4.5mill, played a grand total of 47 games. He had 14 goals and 42 pts. That season he missed 3 games with a leg, 10 games with a groin, 4 games with a concussion, then missed another 18 games with another shoulder surgery. This after coming off the previous season where he played a grand total of 22 games then going down with a shoulder injury. Penner was traded at the deadline in 2011 on Feb 28th. Hemsky went on the IR, 3 days later, March 3 to be exact with a season ending second shoulder injury. HMMM, I wonder if GM's who are paid to be in the know about the happenings all over the league had a sneaking suspicion that Hemsky was hurt and trading for him would be stupid. DING DING DING!! Then you pile on top of that the previous, he only played 22 games, then you pile on top of that, that before he went down with a second shoulder injury, he missed another 17 with various things. So as a GM, would you really be dying to give up a 1st for Hemsky?

At the deadline in 2012, the Oilers tried too trade a UFA Hemsky and found he was worth squat given his previous 2 seasons of being hurt and his 2011-2012 of 69GP and 36 pts. So they signed in to the current deal for 2 seasons in the spring of 2012.

So Oiler fans can blame past and present management all they want, but like I said. If you take off the Oilers colored glasses for a few minutes and have a look at Hemsky's points, goals and games played really don't make him worth a whole lot.

I'm in no way trying to stick up for Tambo because he was an idiot but when it comes to Hemsky, he had nothing to work with. At the time he had a fragile, vastly under performing, relatively expensive winger. Hemsky had 2.5 seasons of barely playing and when he did actually play a reasonable season 2011-2012 of 69 games, Hemsky who is strictly an offensive guy had 36 freaking points for the whole year.

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#138 Mo Playoffs Mo Problems
March 21 2014, 11:36AM
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@Clyde Frog

Valid points.

I don't really love Hemsky the player and his lack of leadership and work ethic won't really be missed. If he was an integral part of the culture of the room for the past few years, then it could be argued that moving him for anything is an "addition by subtraction" move.

Any trade contains risk and any trade needs to present value for both sides. It's just kind of a shame that the organization couldn't do a better job of deciding which assets they knew wouldn't be part of the long term future and selling them at peak value to address areas of weakness elsewhere in the team.

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#139 **
March 21 2014, 11:48AM
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To everyone bashing the cheerleaders, yes, they might not be Dallas cowboys cheerleaders, but come on people!, what's next? bashing on the snow shovelers for not skating hard enough?

I know we're all frustrated, but this is getting ridiculous.

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#140 **
March 21 2014, 11:51AM
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Serious Gord wrote:

Stubhub and ticketmaster.

Try Grant Macewan.

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#141 VK63
March 21 2014, 11:56AM
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welp.

a five game home losing streak has to start somewhere… right?

I left after Buffalo tied it up. The sabres were pretty much powning and its more entertaining listening to the paid apologists try and put lipstick on a pig than actually watch it live.

FWIW the apologists were brimming with confidence that the two teams were heading in opposite directions and hackett was the wrong choice and other "superior" type talk pre game. 40 minutes of mail it in had the convo changing to if eberle, if yak, if a clue or a care were present.

Ohhh and perhaps 30 mentions of Leon Draisaitl. Just because.

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#142 Spydyr
March 21 2014, 12:04PM
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** wrote:

To everyone bashing the cheerleaders, yes, they might not be Dallas cowboys cheerleaders, but come on people!, what's next? bashing on the snow shovelers for not skating hard enough?

I know we're all frustrated, but this is getting ridiculous.

You know what I find ridiculous."The Braintrust's" whole idea of having cheerleaders in the first place.Never liked that idea but if your going to do something do it right not half-assed.

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#143 BobbyCanuck
March 21 2014, 12:09PM
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majin_oil wrote:

Your comment doesn't even make freaken sense!!

First of all, Nashville is a younger team than Edmonton, secondly the Octane are awful on ALL levels.

Of course "Tandra" is seared into your memory! Want to know why... cause she's hot!!! (and probably cause you spent some after hours on google with her based on your comment).

Name me 1 octane girl off the top of your head... exactly

OK, I see how you are confused, let me try to clear.

1) I remember Tandra's name because ON put her name next to her picture

2) I am saying that the Oilers are boys not men we have girl cheerleaders, Nashville has women cheerleaders

That is all, nothing more, nothing less. No reason to get in a snit about

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#144 mayorblaine
March 21 2014, 12:14PM
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related: i get a lot more sleep during games.

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#145 Johnnydapunk
March 21 2014, 12:22PM
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Serious Gord wrote:

Epically bad year.

Yet I'm trying to get four tickets to an upcoming game to take a kid to his first ever NHL game and there is next to nothing available that isn't 360$ or the last row in the place.

No one can ever say that Edmonton and area isn't NHL hockey-crazed.

Well that's a bit of a porky pie there....

Again maybe you were really specific about the date you wanted to go, but I just checked ticketmaster and found 4 tickets to the Oil playing the Avs for $52 each which is relatively fair, and a decent enough team to watch, they are up in the corner, but the view is quite good there.

I've sat near the front row and the nosebleeds in many arenas and most often the stuff higher up is far nicer to see the whole game as you can watch how plays develop and stuff.

As a kid for me, the upper rows were more than fine as I was just excited to go, irrelevant of the seats. At least it isn't the Saddledome where if I remember correctly, it's like climbing a ladder due to the steepness of the stands :-p

A bit off topic but related, was I went to an FA cup final football match at the new Wembley a couple years back and I was miles up on the halfway line but it was amazing seeing everything so well.

I'm not saying this stuff to be a d*ck, but I just don't see a point in complaining for the sake of it as then many just turn off.

And as for Edmonton being a hockey place, I love the city and all, but when it's stupid cold out, what else is there to do :-p

Good luck with your ticket hunt.

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#146 S cottV
March 21 2014, 01:41PM
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Clyde Frog wrote:

Two things...

1. Complaining about Hemsky's possible return 2 years ago is misleading because the team was focused on becoming a winner. The fact that they failed doesn't change that Hemsky being re-signable at the time changed the complexion of any deal, especially when even back then you are trading him for a chance at help in 2-3 years.

2. Hemsky seems to be getting off easy, sure the early season bomb was mostly goal tending, but he has been pretty uninspired since signing his deal. I am more upset that he couldn't be bothered to try harder and contribute positively for us....

Hemsky going away and doing well speaks volumes against his commitment to the Oilers and the serious issues with team culture/management that made him feel so disconnected.

Now I fear if the culture issues persist, how that impacts Yakupov who seems to be showing all the sames signs of having the talent but not wanting to bring it for some reason...

Don't think a lot of people understand just how important stength in the middle and back end is to a smaller offensively skilled winger.

Guys like Hemsky, Eberle and Yakupov need strong centremen and d men to push zone play forward or they are gonna look awful.

RNH is still a couple of years away from being a dominate 1C and Gagner is arguably the worst 2C in the league.

Our d men are all playing in a rotation or two beyond their capability. J Schultz in first rotation - omg...

I just can't understand how we don't have a veteran centreman capable of playing in the forward zone in one or two C and at least one bonafide first rotation d man.

It has killed off Hemsky. Eberle and Yak are not producing like they could be and the situation has significantly devalued them.

What good are small offensively skilled wingers playing 60% of the time, on the wrong side of the red line?

Hemsky should sign where he would be best supported at a little less pay, than might otherwise be the case. If he finds the right fit, I can see him being a productive top 6 player for 3 or 4 more years.

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#147 Randaman
March 21 2014, 02:53PM
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Simply we SUCK but you want to know what the really sad part is? There is absolutely nothing that any of us can do about it. Comment all you want but Lowe, MacT, Eakins, Buchberger, Smith & Acton are not going anywhere. That tells me there will be no improvement as there are many in line if tier #1 fans give up their seats. The new builsing will be full if we are in the play-offs (doubtful)or if we are in last (more probable). Bah bah bah bah Hall, Nuge, Eberle & perron will be asking for trades out of this gong show within a year or two at most. Thumbs down all you want but the writing is on the wall.

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#148 hagargt
March 21 2014, 02:57PM
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@S cottV

Not much makes sense. The oilers management is driving around with a flat tire... no matter how much we all wave and yell to point it out, they just continue on their merry way like a 100 year old man that left his glasses at home.

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#149 Spydyr
March 21 2014, 02:59PM
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hagargt wrote:

Not much makes sense. The oilers management is driving around with a flat tire... no matter how much we all wave and yell to point it out, they just continue on their merry way like a 100 year old man that left his glasses at home.

Let's hope they fix the flat tire this summer and are only driving around with their turn signal on after that.Baby steps.

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#150 ColourMeImpressed
March 21 2014, 03:05PM
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Spydyr wrote:

You know what I find ridiculous."The Braintrust's" whole idea of having cheerleaders in the first place.Never liked that idea but if your going to do something do it right not half-assed.

Regardless of the merit of cheerleaders in the first place, let's consider two things:

1. First of all, most of us would have one of those girls on our arms in our dreams. Yes, they're not Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders, but neither are they women you feel compelled to look away from.

2. They're not the product on the ice, they're not earning millions of dollars, and they're not actually what we're angry with. If we have to heap scorn on someone, can we please do it on someone who has an effect on the game and can go home and wipe the tears away with hundred dollar bills?

http://imgur.com/RsI9t

I don't mean to white knight or whatever, but I just don't feel like picking on young girls earning pennies, for whom this will be the highlight of their lives is cool.

And that's all I have to say about that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Otm4RusESNU

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