BOA Round 214: Flames at Oilers

Ryan Pike
March 22 2014 03:10PM

Ladies and gentlemen, tonight is the fifth meeting of the season (and 214th meeting overall) between the Calgary Flames and the Edmonton Oilers. It's their last meeting until next season, too. I'd say the season series is up for grabs, as each team has won twice - the road team always won - but the Flames needed overtime in both wins at Rexall. The Flames need a win to tie the season series in terms of points earned.

That's about as far as this game goes in terms of "significance."

Calgary has 63 points and 12 games left. Edmonton has 59 points and 11 games left. The gap can close considerably with an Edmonton win, while a Calgary win probably cements their draft placement.

THE HOME TEAM

It goes without saying that it's been a disappointing year in Edmonton. I don't think they spent time and money bringing in Dallas Eakins to lead the club to 29th place. The Oilers lost two nights ago to Buffalo, but have been playing solid lately, winning five of their last 10.

Lines, via Daily Faceoff:

Hall - Gagner - Perron
Lander - Nugent-Hopkins - Eberle
Hendricks - Gordon - Pitlick
Gazdic - Smyth - Jones

Ference - Schultz
Marincin - Petry
Klefbom - Fraser

Fasth

Viktor Fasth gets his first Battle of Alberta start. He was 2-0-0 with a shutout in two games against the Flames while with Anaheim.

The Oilers obviously have some skilled players (that top line, that second line) and are starting to figure out the "depth role player" riddle. That third line is actually pretty solid. But the defense is a bit dodgy, so you can figure out why they are in the general area that they are, standings-wise.

Oddly, Edmonton has the edge on Calgary on the power-play, the penalty kill and in five-on-five goal differential. How come Calgary's higher in the standings? Probably because Calgary's gotten some big contributions from their back-end (Giordano & Brodie, primarily) and some from their depth guys, while Edmonton remains top-heavy.

But if they can ever build something around that top group, wowzers. Granted, we've been saying this for years, but the Oilers could be scary-good if the guys building the team had a plan besides "draft high."

THE ROAD TEAM

The Flames are smarting a bit after last night. On one hand, they scored five goals! On the other, they gave up six. To Nashville, who rarely scores. Yikes.

Lines, via Daily Faceoff:

Cammalleri - Backlund - Byron
Glencross - Stajan - Hudler
Agostino - Monahan - Bouma
Westgarth - Colborne - McGrattan

Giordano - Brodie
Butler - Russell
Smid - Wotherspoon

Ramo

Karri Ramo returns after being out since before the Olympics with an MCL sprain. Joni Ortio returns to the AHL and Joey MacDonald is the back-up for the rest of the year.

Now that they're getting healthy, the Flames are rapidly beginning to resemble an NHL team. Kenny Agostino makes his Battle of Alberta debut after making his NHL debut last night, playing 12:40 in the loss to the Preds. Returning to the line-up is Kevin Westgarth - slotting in for T.J. Galiardi on the bottom line - and God, I hope Westgarth doesn't try to fight Gazdic again.

The Flames have also won five of their last ten games, so they're about as "hot" as the Edmonton Oilers right now.

SUM IT UP

It's a late-season game between two teams that are well out of the playoff picture! The best each club can hope for some emotion in this tilt, as each group tries to gain some momentum to close out the year.

Let's hope that this time next season, these games have a little bit more significance in the standings, because hockey's better when the Flames and Oilers are both doing well and Alberta is a place visiting teams fear to tread.

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Now in his fourth season covering the Calgary Flames and the NHL, Ryan Pike is a Calgary native and FlamesNation's managing editor. He's trying to keep his head up, his stick on the ice and is giving it 110% every shift. You can also find his work at The Hockey Writers and the Wrestling Observer.
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#301 Harlie
March 22 2014, 10:26PM
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Serious Gord wrote:

Which smith? Do you mean Ryan Smyth?

"In 1987, she accepted an invitation from Pet Shop Boys to duet with their lead singer, Neil Tennant, on the single "What Have I Done to Deserve This?".

Tennant cites Dusty in Memphis as one of his favourite albums, and he leapt at the suggestion of using Springfield's vocals for "What Have I Done To Deserve This?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn9E5i7l-Eg

" The song brought Springfield back into the public eye. The following year, Springfield moved back to the U.K., and in 1990, the Pet Shop Boys produced her album Reputation.

“Son of a Preacher Man” saw a revival of popularity with its inclusion on the Pulp Fiction soundtrack."

And in the briefcase??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uCTXVnEYZw

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#302 RexHolez
March 22 2014, 10:26PM
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#oilerpositives - Scrivens already signed a contract... cant back out now

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#303 Quintana
March 22 2014, 10:27PM
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kale wrote:

oh oh another jersey..

I hope for the sake of this franchise they keep throwing jerseys!!!!!

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#304 Loweblows
March 22 2014, 10:27PM
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Nine...nine....nine

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#305 kale
March 22 2014, 10:27PM
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oh well, at least we are an offensive team, on so many levels

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#306 Burnward
March 22 2014, 10:27PM
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HAHAHA! I think I just heard the fans erupt for the 50-50 draw.

Coming back from commercial, the stands are going to be empty.

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#307 Jordan Nugent-Hallkins
March 22 2014, 10:28PM
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@Rockmorton65

"If he's not allowed, then how are other tough guys in the league doing it?"

Are you... Are you serious? You really can't read, can you? I already explained the reason why he can't. The grandfather visor rule that was just put in place? The rule that says any player new to the league in 13/14 has to wear a visor? The fact that Gazdic WAS NEW TO THE LEAGUE IN 2013?

Here,let me give you bullet points, it's easier to digest:

-NHL/NHLPA agree any player entering the league in 13/14 and beyond must wear a visor

-Gazdic enters the league in 13/14

-Gazdic must wear a visor

Got it? I don't usually get mad at people on the internet, but the thought of you actually reproducing kind of pisses me off.

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#308 RexHolez
March 22 2014, 10:28PM
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#oilerpositives - there is no relegation in the nhl

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#309 Oiler63
March 22 2014, 10:29PM
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This oilers team never stops to amaze fans. Just when we think they were at rock bottom losing to the Sabers, this happens. Amazing. This team is beyond cure. Let's just pray and leave everything to the hands of God.

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#310 Johnnydapunk
March 22 2014, 10:29PM
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Half of me doesn't want to watch this gong show of a match (and I have no issues with saying the Flames are spanking the Oil badly) but half of me wants to watch for the potential of an epic meltdown and also see raining jerseys as I've never seen that before.

Fair play Calgary, you were the better team by an embarrassing amount.

And Fasth needs to get that hole fixed in his new glove right chicken....

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#311 Fred
March 22 2014, 10:30PM
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Does Eakins make it out of this game with his job?

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#312 Parallex
March 22 2014, 10:30PM
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Arg... so close for Agostino there. I love seeing guys get there first so I hope he pots one soon.

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#313 RexHolez
March 22 2014, 10:31PM
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#oilerpositives - the Zamboni didn't break down

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#314 Scoring_guru
March 22 2014, 10:31PM
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Lowe, Eakins and MacTavish should not be fired. They should do the right thing for the organization and resign.

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#315 merfer
March 22 2014, 10:31PM
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So little pride. There was a day that when the Oilers got killed like tonight, ever player would at least find a partner for a good old fashion bench clearing. Just gutless team, such pussies, I can hardly stand it You can play crappy but at least show a little pride. Hit them with your purse Sammy snow pants.

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#316 BurningSensation
March 22 2014, 10:32PM
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Is there any evidence that Butler has improved over the 2nd half of the season? I still think he looks like junk.

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#317 Jason
March 22 2014, 10:33PM
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Too bad Yakupov is not in this game

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#318 RexHolez
March 22 2014, 10:33PM
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#oilerpositives - all their skate laces seem to be tied properly.

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#319 Randaman
March 22 2014, 10:33PM
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I have seen players other than Hall throw water bottles before so lay off on the grow up comments! Eakins on the other hand is more worried about his suit jacket than the absolute ass kicking they are receiving? I mean benching your best player over an accidental incident. Now that goes beyond childish! Kick this guys ass to the curb now because if you thought he lost the room before, he has definitely lost it now!!

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#320 Serious Gord
March 22 2014, 10:33PM
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Just looked it up - EDM finishes remainder of season with two or fewer points and it will be the worst in history. And it is pretty much a lock that they will have had the three worst seasons in franchise history all under Lowe and within the last four years.

Moral of the story:

You can't rebuild a team properly on the ice unless you first rebuild the management properly. The way you do that is remote the highest person in the org and work your way down.

You would expect An executive like Katz to know that.

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#321 @Oilanderp
March 22 2014, 10:33PM
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Yakupov is only -5 on the night.

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#322 Ivan Drago
March 22 2014, 10:33PM
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Johnnydapunk wrote:

Half of me doesn't want to watch this gong show of a match (and I have no issues with saying the Flames are spanking the Oil badly) but half of me wants to watch for the potential of an epic meltdown and also see raining jerseys as I've never seen that before.

Fair play Calgary, you were the better team by an embarrassing amount.

And Fasth needs to get that hole fixed in his new glove right chicken....

Fsth came here as a good goalie with a lot of potential to improve, now Freddie Chabot has gotten hold of him............

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#323 Loweblows
March 22 2014, 10:34PM
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What an absolutely dreadful team we have on so many levels.

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#324 dw
March 22 2014, 10:34PM
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Jordan Nugent-Hallkins wrote:

"If he's not allowed, then how are other tough guys in the league doing it?"

Are you... Are you serious? You really can't read, can you? I already explained the reason why he can't. The grandfather visor rule that was just put in place? The rule that says any player new to the league in 13/14 has to wear a visor? The fact that Gazdic WAS NEW TO THE LEAGUE IN 2013?

Here,let me give you bullet points, it's easier to digest:

-NHL/NHLPA agree any player entering the league in 13/14 and beyond must wear a visor

-Gazdic enters the league in 13/14

-Gazdic must wear a visor

Got it? I don't usually get mad at people on the internet, but the thought of you actually reproducing kind of pisses me off.

He is speaking of the practice where each fighter takes off their helmet at the same time prior to fighting. However, I don't agree that Gazdic is obligated to remove his helmet in order to be in compliance with "the code". Another good example of Don Cherry being a moron.

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#325 BurningSensation
March 22 2014, 10:34PM
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Agostino getting lots of burn

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#326 Jesse
March 22 2014, 10:34PM
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Fire Kevin Lowe !

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#327 The Soup Fascist
March 22 2014, 10:35PM
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"Calgary's fourth line getting to play MEANINGFUL minutes?"

IT'S freaking 8 to 1!!

They had masks to protect the noggin when Hrudey played ....... right?

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#328 RexHolez
March 22 2014, 10:35PM
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#oilerpositives - flames still havnt won 5 cups

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#329 Jase
March 22 2014, 10:35PM
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Ironic Hall has a DEFENCEman's number, Lowe must be proud!

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#330 Primo
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Randaman wrote:

I have seen players other than Hall throw water bottles before so lay off on the grow up comments! Eakins on the other hand is more worried about his suit jacket than the absolute ass kicking they are receiving? I mean benching your best player over an accidental incident. Now that goes beyond childish! Kick this guys ass to the curb now because if you thought he lost the room before, he has definitely lost it now!!

Why would you think a new coach would resolve the Oiler issues? Have you not fired your coach almost annually over the last 6 years?? And where are the Oilers today??

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#331 Serious Gord
March 22 2014, 10:36PM
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Why aren't they chanting,

LOWE MUST GO!

Only flames fans left in the building?

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#332 Rockmorton65
March 22 2014, 10:36PM
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Jordan Nugent-Hallkins wrote:

"If he's not allowed, then how are other tough guys in the league doing it?"

Are you... Are you serious? You really can't read, can you? I already explained the reason why he can't. The grandfather visor rule that was just put in place? The rule that says any player new to the league in 13/14 has to wear a visor? The fact that Gazdic WAS NEW TO THE LEAGUE IN 2013?

Here,let me give you bullet points, it's easier to digest:

-NHL/NHLPA agree any player entering the league in 13/14 and beyond must wear a visor

-Gazdic enters the league in 13/14

-Gazdic must wear a visor

Got it? I don't usually get mad at people on the internet, but the thought of you actually reproducing kind of pisses me off.

Calm down, sweetie. You'll spill your juice box. I know the rule. What I'm saying is is that there are other players who actually remove their visor to fight. It's a sign of respect for the other player. The fact your boy doesn't, shows what kind of character he has.

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#333 John
March 22 2014, 10:37PM
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Final minute... and the crowd goes wild!!

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#334 Quintana
March 22 2014, 10:37PM
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BurningSensation wrote:

Is there any evidence that Butler has improved over the 2nd half of the season? I still think he looks like junk.

Who cares!!!!!

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#335 Loweblows
March 22 2014, 10:38PM
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Serious Gord wrote:

Just looked it up - EDM finishes remainder of season with two or fewer points and it will be the worst in history. And it is pretty much a lock that they will have had the three worst seasons in franchise history all under Lowe and within the last four years.

Moral of the story:

You can't rebuild a team properly on the ice unless you first rebuild the management properly. The way you do that is remote the highest person in the org and work your way down.

You would expect An executive like Katz to know that.

Katz doesnt run the oilers like a normal business. Its a hobby. A toy thing. Its common knowledge that Katz has been buds with KLowe for years. Success will never start from the top down when you cant fire your buddy.

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#336 Jordan Nugent-Hallkins
March 22 2014, 10:38PM
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@dw

I'm like 99% sure he still thinks Gazdic is allowed to play without a visor, but chooses not to.

I can hear him mouth-breathing from here.

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#337 kale
March 22 2014, 10:39PM
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oh well we have a chance to redeem ourselves against San Jose and Anaheim...pfffffffft

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#338 Clyde
March 22 2014, 10:39PM
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Jordan Nugent-Hallkins wrote:

"If he's not allowed, then how are other tough guys in the league doing it?"

Are you... Are you serious? You really can't read, can you? I already explained the reason why he can't. The grandfather visor rule that was just put in place? The rule that says any player new to the league in 13/14 has to wear a visor? The fact that Gazdic WAS NEW TO THE LEAGUE IN 2013?

Here,let me give you bullet points, it's easier to digest:

-NHL/NHLPA agree any player entering the league in 13/14 and beyond must wear a visor

-Gazdic enters the league in 13/14

-Gazdic must wear a visor

Got it? I don't usually get mad at people on the internet, but the thought of you actually reproducing kind of pisses me off.

U don't get it. He's hiding behind the visor and has been called out twice on hnic who also show examples of tough guys getting around the rule in order to be respected in their role

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#339 Jase
March 22 2014, 10:40PM
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Give Hrudey a raise

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#340 Randaman
March 22 2014, 10:41PM
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Primo wrote:

Why would you think a new coach would resolve the Oiler issues? Have you not fired your coach almost annually over the last 6 years?? And where are the Oilers today??

I just can't stand his egotistical demeanour and that hair? My wife always comments "someone should tell him to choose a new style". I was an advocate for hiring Sutter in the first place

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#341 Scoring_guru
March 22 2014, 10:42PM
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Next time they should blackout the game in Edmonton and show reruns of Murdoch Mysteries or Anne of Green Gables.

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#342 Serious Gord
March 22 2014, 10:42PM
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Went to a jays game a couple of years ago and they got shelled by Tampa (as usual) particularly one particular pitcher.

Heard over the radio he was being waived/released before we even got out of the parking lot.

Kevin Lowe should fire himself before Reed and Rob open up the phone lines...

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#343 BobbyO
March 22 2014, 10:42PM
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Jordan Nugent-Hallkins wrote:

I'm like 99% sure he still thinks Gazdic is allowed to play without a visor, but chooses not to.

I can hear him mouth-breathing from here.

Give it up. Your defeated on this as well! It's a sign of respect. Take off the visor and man up!!

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#344 MontanaMan
March 22 2014, 10:44PM
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Jordan Nugent-Hallkins wrote:

I'm like 99% sure he still thinks Gazdic is allowed to play without a visor, but chooses not to.

I can hear him mouth-breathing from here.

You are a moron and I'm tired of reading your rants. Go have glass of warm milk, put on your jammies and head to your bunkbed. It's late and your team took a severe spanking.

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#345 JonnyR
March 22 2014, 10:44PM
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Scott Oake to Cammalleri:

"Let's move on to hot you are"

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#346 If Only HIs Name Was Olli Postandin
March 22 2014, 10:45PM
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I can`t even gloat at the Oilers anymore. Actually, it`s scary to see another Canadian team that is this badly managed at all levels.

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#347 Serious Gord
March 22 2014, 10:47PM
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Loweblows wrote:

Katz doesnt run the oilers like a normal business. Its a hobby. A toy thing. Its common knowledge that Katz has been buds with KLowe for years. Success will never start from the top down when you cant fire your buddy.

Then there will never be success.

I will say it again - go look up Phillip Wrigley.

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#348 beloch
March 22 2014, 10:48PM
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Cheers and goodnight to all fans of both teams. No matter the outcome, it's always a pleasure to see the Battle of Alberta.

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#349 Jordan Nugent-Hallkins
March 22 2014, 10:49PM
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@Rockmorton65

Sigh...

If you would've said "helmet" to begin with instead of "visor", I wouldn't have thought you were a complete numbskull. Removing ones helmet, and removing ones visor can be two completely different things.

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#350 Loweblows
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I have a feeliing that when we wake up tomorrow Edmonton may have a press conference announcing the dismissal of Dallas Eakins. If I am dreaming pinch me and awake me from this nightmare. Last post of the night. Gotta go kick the dog.

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