BOA Round 214: Flames at Oilers

Ryan Pike
March 22 2014 03:10PM

Ladies and gentlemen, tonight is the fifth meeting of the season (and 214th meeting overall) between the Calgary Flames and the Edmonton Oilers. It's their last meeting until next season, too. I'd say the season series is up for grabs, as each team has won twice - the road team always won - but the Flames needed overtime in both wins at Rexall. The Flames need a win to tie the season series in terms of points earned.

That's about as far as this game goes in terms of "significance."

Calgary has 63 points and 12 games left. Edmonton has 59 points and 11 games left. The gap can close considerably with an Edmonton win, while a Calgary win probably cements their draft placement.

THE HOME TEAM

It goes without saying that it's been a disappointing year in Edmonton. I don't think they spent time and money bringing in Dallas Eakins to lead the club to 29th place. The Oilers lost two nights ago to Buffalo, but have been playing solid lately, winning five of their last 10.

Lines, via Daily Faceoff:

Hall - Gagner - Perron
Lander - Nugent-Hopkins - Eberle
Hendricks - Gordon - Pitlick
Gazdic - Smyth - Jones

Ference - Schultz
Marincin - Petry
Klefbom - Fraser

Fasth

Viktor Fasth gets his first Battle of Alberta start. He was 2-0-0 with a shutout in two games against the Flames while with Anaheim.

The Oilers obviously have some skilled players (that top line, that second line) and are starting to figure out the "depth role player" riddle. That third line is actually pretty solid. But the defense is a bit dodgy, so you can figure out why they are in the general area that they are, standings-wise.

Oddly, Edmonton has the edge on Calgary on the power-play, the penalty kill and in five-on-five goal differential. How come Calgary's higher in the standings? Probably because Calgary's gotten some big contributions from their back-end (Giordano & Brodie, primarily) and some from their depth guys, while Edmonton remains top-heavy.

But if they can ever build something around that top group, wowzers. Granted, we've been saying this for years, but the Oilers could be scary-good if the guys building the team had a plan besides "draft high."

THE ROAD TEAM

The Flames are smarting a bit after last night. On one hand, they scored five goals! On the other, they gave up six. To Nashville, who rarely scores. Yikes.

Lines, via Daily Faceoff:

Cammalleri - Backlund - Byron
Glencross - Stajan - Hudler
Agostino - Monahan - Bouma
Westgarth - Colborne - McGrattan

Giordano - Brodie
Butler - Russell
Smid - Wotherspoon

Ramo

Karri Ramo returns after being out since before the Olympics with an MCL sprain. Joni Ortio returns to the AHL and Joey MacDonald is the back-up for the rest of the year.

Now that they're getting healthy, the Flames are rapidly beginning to resemble an NHL team. Kenny Agostino makes his Battle of Alberta debut after making his NHL debut last night, playing 12:40 in the loss to the Preds. Returning to the line-up is Kevin Westgarth - slotting in for T.J. Galiardi on the bottom line - and God, I hope Westgarth doesn't try to fight Gazdic again.

The Flames have also won five of their last ten games, so they're about as "hot" as the Edmonton Oilers right now.

SUM IT UP

It's a late-season game between two teams that are well out of the playoff picture! The best each club can hope for some emotion in this tilt, as each group tries to gain some momentum to close out the year.

Let's hope that this time next season, these games have a little bit more significance in the standings, because hockey's better when the Flames and Oilers are both doing well and Alberta is a place visiting teams fear to tread.

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Ryan Pike is a Calgary native and FlamesNation's managing editor. He's covered the Flames and the NHL since 2010. His work can also be found at The Hockey Writers and The Wrestling Observer.
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#351 Doctor Smashy
March 22 2014, 10:50PM
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Rockmorton65 wrote:

Calm down, sweetie. You'll spill your juice box. I know the rule. What I'm saying is is that there are other players who actually remove their visor to fight. It's a sign of respect for the other player. The fact your boy doesn't, shows what kind of character he has.

You mean they carry a screwdriver with them on the ice? What you are saying makes sense as long as you don't think about it. He has to wear a visor (you know the rule), he can't take of his helmet, his opponent can't take off his helmet for him (we'vee all seen that attempted), but you're saying you know of classy players that take the visor off just before the fight? Are you the guy who farts in an elevator with only one other person in it and thinks they won't know it was you if you act surprised?

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#352 Jeff Lebowski
March 22 2014, 10:51PM
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Sevenseven wrote:

Thanks for giving us a better draft pic Calgary :)

It doesn't matter what draft pick you get. Here's why:

1. Katz 2. Lowe 3. The rest of your putrid, rotten 'team'.

That pick will be ruined before he even starts.

Want it to change? All 3 those have to be changed. Not one or two. How likely?

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#353 dw
March 22 2014, 10:52PM
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Primo wrote:

Why would you think a new coach would resolve the Oiler issues? Have you not fired your coach almost annually over the last 6 years?? And where are the Oilers today??

Just because we have gone through a number of coaches in past years should not mean that Eakins gets a free pass. Why shouldn't he be scrutinized for his performance. There is always the argument that the players on the ice determine your success but the Oilers had some good things going under Krueger (ie. special teams) that absolutely fell off the map this year. There were portions of this year where we looked absolutely lost. Something has to change and the trade market would not be friendly to what we have to offer.

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#354 BurningSensation
March 22 2014, 10:54PM
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If Only HIs Name Was Olli Postandin wrote:

I can`t even gloat at the Oilers anymore. Actually, it`s scary to see another Canadian team that is this badly managed at all levels.

Whenever I have even a pang of sympathy for the Oilers I think of Esa Tikkanen and it goes away.

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#355 Jordan Nugent-Hallkins
March 22 2014, 10:55PM
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@Doctor Smashy

The guy thinks a helmet is called a visor. Don't get sucked into his idiocy, I made that mistake.

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#356 Rockmorton65
March 22 2014, 10:56PM
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Jordan Nugent-Hallkins wrote:

Sigh...

If you would've said "helmet" to begin with instead of "visor", I wouldn't have thought you were a complete numbskull. Removing ones helmet, and removing ones visor can be two completely different things.

I can kind of see the misunderstanding. I did make several references to the idea of removing it during a fight. You obviously can't remove just your visor. I'm just sorry you missed the point I was trying to make.

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#357 Quintana
March 22 2014, 10:58PM
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Eakins: "We made one mistake" What a f......g clown !!!!!!!FIRE EAKINS!!!!!!!!!

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#358 Rockmorton65
March 22 2014, 11:00PM
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Doctor Smashy wrote:

You mean they carry a screwdriver with them on the ice? What you are saying makes sense as long as you don't think about it. He has to wear a visor (you know the rule), he can't take of his helmet, his opponent can't take off his helmet for him (we'vee all seen that attempted), but you're saying you know of classy players that take the visor off just before the fight? Are you the guy who farts in an elevator with only one other person in it and thinks they won't know it was you if you act surprised?

I'm sorry. I forgot I was talking to Oiler fans. Good Lord. I said visor when I meant helmet. I thought you all could figure out what I meant. To remove the visor you have to take off the helmet, obviously. Guess I'll need to be more specific when in a shared thread. Good night, and wow.

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#359 Bringbackslats
March 22 2014, 11:01PM
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BurningSensation wrote:

This might be the greatest non Stanley Cup winning day of my Flames loving life.

Everyday of your life save for one has been "a non- Stanley Cup winning Day" you dork. Can you divide the #5 by the #1? That's what I thought. Even without 99 we still have as many cups as you do. But oh that's right. We have 4 more.

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#360 Quintana
March 22 2014, 11:05PM
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BurningSensation wrote:

Whenever I have even a pang of sympathy for the Oilers I think of Esa Tikkanen and it goes away.

Go away troll!!!!! 5 cups is more than 1......thats all!!!

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#361 John
March 22 2014, 11:07PM
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Eakins's explanation in the presser sounded like the court hearing in Top Gun after Maverick's flat spin. "We just could not recover from it. We tried everything and we couldn't recover and it just went deeper and deeper."

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#362 BobbyO
March 22 2014, 11:09PM
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Quintana wrote:

Go away troll!!!!! 5 cups is more than 1......thats all!!!

Oiler fans have 2 things to look forward too:

1) Living The Past 2) Draft Day

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#363 BurningSensation
March 22 2014, 11:09PM
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Bringbackslats wrote:

Everyday of your life save for one has been "a non- Stanley Cup winning Day" you dork. Can you divide the #5 by the #1? That's what I thought. Even without 99 we still have as many cups as you do. But oh that's right. We have 4 more.

Conveniently you failed to read the 'of my Flames life' part.

Dork.

May your rebuild be infinite.

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#364 exsanguinator
March 22 2014, 11:09PM
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Quintana wrote:

Go away troll!!!!! 5 cups is more than 1......thats all!!!

Toronto has more cups than the Oilers. What's your point?

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#365 Quintana
March 22 2014, 11:10PM
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BobbyO wrote:

Oiler fans have 2 things to look forward too:

1) Living The Past 2) Draft Day

So Flames Fans!!!!!

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#366 Bringbackslats
March 22 2014, 11:10PM
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Bringbackslats wrote:

Everyday of your life save for one has been "a non- Stanley Cup winning Day" you dork. Can you divide the #5 by the #1? That's what I thought. Even without 99 we still have as many cups as you do. But oh that's right. We have 4 more.

Guess which Flamer fan on here trashed my post? You lemon... Get a life and get on your own teams message boards. And BTW not only do we have 4 more cups than your sorry team but we also made it to game seven more recently than you... So what the hell are you so smug about?

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#367 John
March 22 2014, 11:11PM
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@Quintana

You're starting to sound like Kevin Lowe. Keep telling yourself that 5 cups means you're great now. The fact that the Oil was once such a great organization only shows how far they've fallen. The fan base deserves better.

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#368 dw
March 22 2014, 11:12PM
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I have been an Oilers fan for life and I currently live in Calgary. I got to march down Jasper Ave 5 times as a kid celebrating our cup victories. But to put it in perspective, our last cup came 24 years ago. While I don't discount the cups that we won, we can't keep pointing to it like a scoreboard. It just makes us look desperate.

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#369 kittensandcookies
March 22 2014, 11:12PM
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Wow usually I have to pay good money to watch a bitchslapping like that.

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#370 sathome
March 22 2014, 11:14PM
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You all know this post is on both OilersNation and FlamesNation, right? Nobody is on the other team's message board, it's a linked post.

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#371 kale
March 22 2014, 11:15PM
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OMG there was a guy on the radio that said he was thrown out of Rexall for wearing his jersey inside out

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#372 Bringbackslats
March 22 2014, 11:16PM
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@BurningSensation

Yeah and your rebuild after you passed on Martin St Louis and "Lost the cup to TB the next year" is going great?

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#373 hockey fan 1976
March 22 2014, 11:22PM
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How Lowe and MacT can have a job on Monday after a loss like this is beyond me..and how Katz says he's a true Edmontonian is a straight up lie other wise he would not tolerate being the joke of professional sports for the last 8 seasons and make no mistake about it, more years to come.

Fire everyone from Lowe down and start over so sell the god damn team so that we can actually get an owner with actual desire to bring pride back to us fans who truly deserve better than this garbage you call a "entertaining product"

BS!!

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#374 Andy7190
March 22 2014, 11:25PM
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Some comments here seem to be hoping for a Brent Sutter surfacing with the Oilers. Well, as a Flames guy, I don't think you want him. Yes, he would get more out of the players than Eakins is. So would the guy in the row behind the Oilers bench.

Sutter coached the Flames for three years. He took a team the Mike Keenan coached into the playoffs in his two years, and managed to reel off three straight misses.

Iginla looked horrible under Sutter, so did Stajan and Bouwmeester. The Flames as a group didn't look right. Playing some weird defensive trap game. Brutal to watch. It is too bad Kipper and Iginla's last three seasons were wasted under this coach.

Hartley gets more effort and more offence out of a worse team. They are fun to watch. No, they aren't any good, but they make it interesting. And Hartley coaches offence. Imagine that. A coach who can get a transition game going.

Anyway, I don't think Eakins is your answer either. It is weird to say fire yet another coach, but Krueger wasn't this bad. He wasn't. He could get more out of this group than Eakins. And I wouldn't have said that in the summer, but watching this season, I can say it now.

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#375 kittensandcookies
March 22 2014, 11:26PM
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On second thought I'm thinking the Flames didn't play too well; only one of the facepunchers got a goal tonight.

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#376 BurningSensation
March 22 2014, 11:27PM
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Bringbackslats wrote:

Yeah and your rebuild after you passed on Martin St Louis and "Lost the cup to TB the next year" is going great?

It's 8-1 on Rexall ice great. Thanks for asking.

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#377 lionlager
March 22 2014, 11:30PM
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What a great game. That's all there is to say.

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#378 TRAV
March 22 2014, 11:31PM
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I give Oilers fans some credit for defending their team and trying to talk some smack. It's pretty tough after that display. Heartless.

I think that some of the Oiler Fans anger is misdirected. while I think Eakins is a tool I actually think that its time to direct more anger at the players. I think that it starts with Hall. He is the leader on this team and he is a poor one at that. Lots of skill but limited care. Too much, too early without working for it.

What I think really hurts Oilers fans is the fact that if the Oilers cared and worked like the Flames they could be very good. Lots of potential up front.

Flames note Wotherspoon hasn't been very noticeable which is a great thing for a defensemen. I think we may have something here.

To be honest I wish both the Flames and the Oilers didn't suck so much right now. How great would a playoff battle between these two be?

Also why not more fights from the Oilers when they were being humiliated in their own barn?

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#379 RKD
March 22 2014, 11:32PM
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That was a beating of EPIC PROPORTIONS. I am happy GlenX got the hat trick but even happier Stajan got a goal for his late son.

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#380 Bringbackslats
March 22 2014, 11:35PM
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BurningSensation wrote:

It's 8-1 on Rexall ice great. Thanks for asking.

Yes a hearty congrats to you. Beating the 2nd worst team in the league could only make a true flames chump feel like a champ. We won the last cup more recently than you, and we'll be vying for the cup before you do again.

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#381 mk
March 22 2014, 11:36PM
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Not much to say after that game. Glencross is the type of player the Oilers need and he showed them his score face. :)

Go Flames go!

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#382 BurningSensation
March 22 2014, 11:37PM
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Bringbackslats wrote:

Yes a hearty congrats to you. Beating the 2nd worst team in the league could only make a true flames chump feel like a champ. We won the last cup more recently than you, and we'll be vying for the cup before you do again.

I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome your rebuild is going.

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#383 Oiler Al
March 22 2014, 11:39PM
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Taught there was a terrible smell on this site... then realized all the COWPIES on here.

What a bunch of hillbillies.

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#384 Quintana
March 22 2014, 11:40PM
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BurningSensation wrote:

I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome your rebuild is going.

Since when the Flames are rebuilding ?

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#385 Loweblows
March 22 2014, 11:43PM
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BurningSensation wrote:

This might be the greatest non Stanley Cup winning day of my Flames loving life.

You must have a sad life.

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#386 If Only HIs Name Was Olli Postandin
March 22 2014, 11:47PM
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Quintana wrote:

Go away troll!!!!! 5 cups is more than 1......thats all!!!

Man, Oilers fans sure get worked up over sh!t that happened 3 decades ago in another NHL era. I won`t begrudge you that, however, even though I was too small to recall even the last Oiler cup; you need something to cheer you up during those long, cold winters.

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#387 Loweblows
March 22 2014, 11:47PM
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BurningSensation wrote:

I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome your rebuild is going.

The burning sensation you have is treatable with preparation h.

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#388 BurningSensation
March 22 2014, 11:48PM
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Loweblows wrote:

You must have a sad life.

The life of a FLAMES FAN is actually pretty awesome right now.

Seriously, can Oiler fans not read?

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#389 BurningSensation
March 22 2014, 11:49PM
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Loweblows wrote:

The burning sensation you have is treatable with preparation h.

Coming from the guy blowing Kevin Lowe, I wouldn't make too many jokes

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#390 Quintana
March 22 2014, 11:49PM
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BurningSensation wrote:

The life of a FLAMES FAN is actually pretty awesome right now.

Seriously, can Oiler fans not read?

Its been like that since 2004, right?

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#391 BurningSensation
March 22 2014, 11:53PM
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Quintana wrote:

Since when the Flames are rebuilding ?

An Oiler fan who speaks Yoda!

Trade deadline last year since it is

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#392 Rod from Viking
March 22 2014, 11:56PM
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BurningSensation wrote:

I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome your rebuild is going.

You should be able to hear out of one ear, there is only one cup ringing in an ear.

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#393 Primo
March 22 2014, 11:57PM
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dw wrote:

Just because we have gone through a number of coaches in past years should not mean that Eakins gets a free pass. Why shouldn't he be scrutinized for his performance. There is always the argument that the players on the ice determine your success but the Oilers had some good things going under Krueger (ie. special teams) that absolutely fell off the map this year. There were portions of this year where we looked absolutely lost. Something has to change and the trade market would not be friendly to what we have to offer.

When do you hold the players accountable? Specifically the 1st overalls. They simply are not performing. HNIC showed 4 instances where Taylor Hall was dogging it on goals AGAINST.

Yes, I can see where another change of coaches will help!

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#394 CHAMBERS
March 23 2014, 12:00AM
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Quintana wrote:

Its been like that since 2004, right?

Flames rebuild is only 1 year old. Team has been competitive for the most part since 2004. Sorry only facts.

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#395 ?
March 23 2014, 12:04AM
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@Jordan Nugent-Hallkins

Lmao, nobody really gives an eff about Gazdic's visor. He can beat up Westgarth all he wants , the Flames will just continue to do the same to the Oilers

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#396 Quintana
March 23 2014, 12:05AM
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CHAMBERS wrote:

Flames rebuild is only 1 year old. Team has been competitive for the most part since 2004. Sorry only facts.

Yeah looking at your top 6 ......you can call that a rebuild!!!!!

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#397 Dr. Philosophy
March 23 2014, 12:14AM
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Quintana wrote:

Eakins: "We made one mistake" What a f......g clown !!!!!!!FIRE EAKINS!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, listening carefully is hard.

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#398 Oilers!!
March 23 2014, 12:15AM
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Quintana wrote:

Yeah looking at your top 6 ......you can call that a rebuild!!!!!

YA! Oilers is bestest team accept they loose a lot of the alweys agenst everyone...we has all the winning in the 80s

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#399 If Only HIs Name Was Olli Postandin
March 23 2014, 12:19AM
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Quintana wrote:

Yeah looking at your top 6 ......you can call that a rebuild!!!!!

Call them what you want. They`re the same guys that handed your plethora of first-overall picks an a$$-whuppin tonight (in your own barn no less). Seriously, with fans like you that persistenly trump out the so-called glory years as a defense mechanism for all things hockey, I now get how Lowe and company repeatedly get away with incompetence.

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#400 LoweBlow
March 23 2014, 12:35AM
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Jeff Lebowski wrote:

It doesn't matter what draft pick you get. Here's why:

1. Katz 2. Lowe 3. The rest of your putrid, rotten 'team'.

That pick will be ruined before he even starts.

Want it to change? All 3 those have to be changed. Not one or two. How likely?

What I find most shameful is how a Cowtown fan has to tell it like it is.

Can someone take us out back and shoot us yet?

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