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Lowetide
March 22 2014 11:08PM

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As an Oiler fan, I can give you chapter and verse about low points in organization history. The quick exit in 1983 was nothing—we knew the Oilers would be back. The Pronger trade request was a bad damn day, I suspect you remember it. Tonight? Losing like this to the current edition of the Calgary Flames? Come on.

I'm not one for grand gestures, and I'm certainly not one who believes any business or organization should have a knee jerk reaction to a specific trainwreck. However, the score and the Hall-Eakins exchange are the cherry on top of a truly incredible season.

Oiler fans have, in my opinion, been amazingly patient during this rebuild. Even in this season—which is the most trying year of all—the grumbling has been less than one might expect based on performance/expectation.

The remaining schedule is difficult, the jerseys keep flying from the stands (and may I say that's getting old) and the hits just keep on coming.

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Looked liked Dallas Eakins and Taylor Hall had some frayed nerves tonight. That can be a good thing—this has to be a low for both men—and something good could come from it. Sometimes these things don't work out, and history tells us if one of them is leaving we already know his name.

This has all the makings of a bizarre spring. It is, at the very least, a dramatic low point in a season that defies description. We've passed surprise and driven through anger, and long ago stopped checking the standings.

What's next? I suspect the answer is indifference.

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#301 Oil Vice
March 23 2014, 07:40PM
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There are three ways to build a team. Draft, trade or free agency. Trading requires that you already have valuable assets. With Edmonton remaining at the bottom of most FAs list we have one option. Draft. Lowe being fired will not change this reality. How long was Detroit's rebuild before they finally broke through? Now they have no problem signing the players they need in the off season. Simple logic suggests we need to stay the course. Painful indeed but what other option do we have? Upper management is not going to block a shot or take a hit to make a play.

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#302 samurai003
March 23 2014, 08:22PM
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Oil Vice wrote:

There are three ways to build a team. Draft, trade or free agency. Trading requires that you already have valuable assets. With Edmonton remaining at the bottom of most FAs list we have one option. Draft. Lowe being fired will not change this reality. How long was Detroit's rebuild before they finally broke through? Now they have no problem signing the players they need in the off season. Simple logic suggests we need to stay the course. Painful indeed but what other option do we have? Upper management is not going to block a shot or take a hit to make a play.

I don't know what you're getting at, and you're using Detroit as an example?

Detroit has NOT missed the playoffs since 89-90. Sure out in round 1 or 2, but made the playoffs, with two cups. That's a rebuild - It's good management at Detroit, Chicago, Pittsburg. They have vision on building a team.

Oilers - 05-06 was last appearance in the playoffs - it will be NINE straight years golfing in April, always a bottom 20 team.

To stay the course with the current management at the helm will lead us down the same path. KBlowe lacks vision and leadership. C.R.A.P. flows downhill.

Draft isn't working - as you can see from the standings, because they can't bring the talent out of the players. That's management.

Upper management doesn't block the shots, but they pick and choose who will, and how they will. Unfortunately, they are more concerned about their golf swing.

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#303 Oil Vice
March 23 2014, 10:07PM
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@samurai003

What I'm getting at is that management's hands are tied. It doesn't matter who manages the team at this point. After the 06 finals the oilers were completely depleted of all assets. I don't think people realize how little we had for prospects at the time. It takes time to regenerate that amount of depth in the system. We didn't have a dedicated AHL team for way too long and that hurt us badly.

Dig a little deeper into the wings history. I'm talking about the years leading up to 89-90. They were terrible for longer than 8 years. Yes the game is different but the principles of managing are simple and have not changed. How can you question what I'm getting at?! It's pretty cut and dry. FAs don't want to come here and we don't have the assets to make a significant trade without giving up on players that we want to keep. Every hockey fan knows the blueprint to the Pens rebuild was a lottery win to pick Crosby. Suggesting the oilers should emulate the penguins rebuild strategy shows limited hockey IQ IMO.

Oilers fans posses unequaled passion thus the constant cry for new management will not end until we make the playoffs but I feel some are blinded with rage. What would new management have to do besides waving a magical wand?! If you were managing then what would you do?

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#304 Pouzar99
March 24 2014, 05:29AM
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I'd fire myself. Then I'd fire you for doing such a poor job of concealing you are an Oiler employee, as no one could really be stupid enough to make such claims otherwise. How has staying the course worked so far? The course has turned the franchise into the laughing stock of the league. When that happens you CHANGE course. The people who drove the team into the ditch and have been stuck there for 8 years are not the ones to get us out. They are a big part of why no FAs want to come here.

Kevin Lowe leaving and being replaced by a proven hockey manager would be the first step to changing the course in the right direction. No doubt there are some ex-Oilers that might be able to do the job but it must be someone else. Someone with no previous connection to this club. Brian Burke would have been perfect, but it's too late for that now.

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#305 Oil Vice
March 24 2014, 05:51AM
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@Pouzar99

I'll admit I sound like an oilers employee. Not true but if any employees are reading then I'd love to be one even if we are the laughing stock of the league. Sounds like you'd be one in favour of the magic wand scenario. Fire everyone....very original. Brian Burke has done very little as a manager. He was lucky to inherit the ducks when they were already built and primed to succeed. Do better.

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#306 Pouzar99
March 24 2014, 11:23AM
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You seem to be forgetting that Burke won the Cup in Anaheim after he fleeced Kevin Lowe, getting Chris Pronger for a bag of pucks and Lupul. Nice try though. Go back to your boss and ask for some new arguments.

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#307 Kevin Lowe
March 24 2014, 01:04PM
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We need to stay the course. Fans I assure you firing me is not the answer. We just need to be patient and in the next 8 years I guarentee you we will be a competitive hockey team. We are so close and if we can only land 2-8 more first overall draft picks we will have the right mix up of 5"10 centremen to really get ourselves into a fight for that 8th playoff spot. However after a series against St Louis/La we will have to rebuild again.

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#308 Oil Vice
March 24 2014, 02:37PM
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Pouzar99 wrote:

You seem to be forgetting that Burke won the Cup in Anaheim after he fleeced Kevin Lowe, getting Chris Pronger for a bag of pucks and Lupul. Nice try though. Go back to your boss and ask for some new arguments.

You seem to be forgetting that pronger demanded a trade. Thus the oilers had no hope of getting fair value...nice try tho And since I'm so forgetful then plz remind me who was it that convinced pronger and peca to sign here in the first place? Pronger was the best UFA signing in the history of the franchise at the time.

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#309 Oil Vice
March 24 2014, 05:02PM
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@Pouzar99

Done?

Have I beaten you with my word stick enough?

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#310 Mike Wazowski
March 24 2014, 05:14PM
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Serious Gord wrote:

So is booing pathetic?

Apathy is pathetic. (Has the same roots even) Endlessly defending the old boy establishment is pathetic. Hoping for better results from a management group that has been a serial failure in the past is pathetic.

Throwing a jersey on the ice is one step up from booing. It takes courage to do it. It is the polar opposite of pathetic.

If fans can throw hats onto the ice in celebration without fear of expulsion then throwing a jersey onto the ice in disgust should also be allowed without penalty. And to expel a fan for wearing the jersey inside out rather than apologizing to the fan and all the others who are suffering because of this organizations incompetence is just more evidence of how rotten and out of touch this organization is.

I heard your rant on the post-game show and I couldn't disagree with you more. The fans may have every right to be frustrated but that jersey is a symbol of our city, every fan and player who has ever worn it. It's a symbol of all the blood, sweat and hard work that went into getting to the NHL and every teammate that injured himself making a play. Throwing it away IS disrespecting it.

You called Scrivens and Eakins 'employees'. Don't you want players, coaches and management who are passionate and invested in this team and city?!?

Never mind the fact Scrivens grew up as an Oiler fan. His idols wore that jersey and it was probably the proudest moment of his life when he got to wear it himself. Personally, I don't blame him for being pissed off.

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