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Lowetide
March 22 2014 11:08PM

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As an Oiler fan, I can give you chapter and verse about low points in organization history. The quick exit in 1983 was nothing—we knew the Oilers would be back. The Pronger trade request was a bad damn day, I suspect you remember it. Tonight? Losing like this to the current edition of the Calgary Flames? Come on.

I'm not one for grand gestures, and I'm certainly not one who believes any business or organization should have a knee jerk reaction to a specific trainwreck. However, the score and the Hall-Eakins exchange are the cherry on top of a truly incredible season.

Oiler fans have, in my opinion, been amazingly patient during this rebuild. Even in this season—which is the most trying year of all—the grumbling has been less than one might expect based on performance/expectation.

The remaining schedule is difficult, the jerseys keep flying from the stands (and may I say that's getting old) and the hits just keep on coming.

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Looked liked Dallas Eakins and Taylor Hall had some frayed nerves tonight. That can be a good thing—this has to be a low for both men—and something good could come from it. Sometimes these things don't work out, and history tells us if one of them is leaving we already know his name.

This has all the makings of a bizarre spring. It is, at the very least, a dramatic low point in a season that defies description. We've passed surprise and driven through anger, and long ago stopped checking the standings.

What's next? I suspect the answer is indifference.

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#51 Milos
March 23 2014, 12:57AM
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Oiler Domination To Follow

Hall is NOT the problem.

On any other team he will put up 40-50 goals.

Same goes for Eberle and Yakupov.

That's the real problem.

This organization is a joke.

Your intro and outro are greatly contradicting eachother. Shut the **** up.

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#52 Anonymous But totally connected insider
March 23 2014, 12:58AM
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Reg Dunlop wrote:

Sorry to say, anyone who thinks we have hit rock bottom is forgetting how often we hit it in the past. Zero points in the remaining games will be the new rock bottom. Then, Hall demanding a trade. Then, Ekblad refusing to put on an oil jersey at the draft. Then, no signings at free agency followed by another 'bold moves' presser from Mac. The oil still have lots of gongshow in them.

Taylor Hall is the #1problem with this totally dysfunctional organization! He an Justin Schultz are too good/cool to participate fully in the per game warm up drills- watch for your f)(ck$&g self on Tuesday!,!until these clowns are moved the Oilers will be stagnant!, HNIC analysts can see it!

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#53 RexHolez
March 23 2014, 12:59AM
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we should trade either yakupov or eberle before ufa day to Ottawa for negotiating rights on Hemsky

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#54 Zamboni Driver
March 23 2014, 01:00AM
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Luckily Smyth said it was 'unacceptable'.

Again.

So, you know. Our "leaders" really "care".

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#55 Ryan2
March 23 2014, 01:02AM
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I guess I am the only fan happy to see them lose this bad? Thankfully, I did not watch the game, but the only way to have a major change with the organization is a week like this - lose to Buffalo then get embarrassed by the Flames on HNIC.

Dallas Eakins was a huge mistake. MacT needs to let him go back to the AHL to lick his wounds and hopefully learn from the experience.

Ference was a bad contract that is only going to look next year and the following ones.

Gagner's contract is even worse. He only scores if Hall or one of his other linemates is drving the bus (but the same applies to Nuge and Ebs as well).

We knew Hall was not ready to be a leader at the start of the season, but where the heck is all of the veteran leadership that guys like Ference were supposed to bring to the table? It is nowhere to be seen.

Katz needs to finally step in and start letting his party buddies from the glory years go. The "Oilers Way" has been lost for a while now. The owner needs to go outside of the retired players and hire management that is saavy enough to operate in today's NHL.

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#56 kale
March 23 2014, 01:02AM
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I suspect I will get so trashed for this comment but the problem with this organizations is egos. From the top right on down. I can live with that and just go on being frustrated. However when a franchise starts censoring its fans, like the signage and Darcy tonight, and treating the fans the way they do who are understandably upset, fans who pay for the tickets, finance a new arena, that is the height of egotism and I dont know if I can continue to support this team. Period. Trash away

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#57 @Oilanderp
March 23 2014, 01:03AM
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@Serious Gord

Let's be categorical: Tonight was the lowest point in oilers history.

Hyperbole hy·per·bo·le hīˈpərbəlē noun 1. exaggerated statements or claims not meant to be taken literally. synonyms: exaggeration, overstatement, magnification, embroidery, embellishment, excess, overkill, rhetoric;

Remember THIS?

Stop throwing your water bottle around, Gord.

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#58 HardBoiledOil
March 23 2014, 01:04AM
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losses to Buffalo and Calgary....can't wait for this season to finally end!!

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#59 Wonger
March 23 2014, 01:04AM
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The decision to not dress MACINTYRE tonight really helped the Oilers win!!! How come McGrattan never yaps at Sabres players during the warm up or stares down the Sabres bench? Because the Bully is totally terrified of Big John Scott! He won't even make eye contact with him!!!

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#60 Stubblejumper
March 23 2014, 01:06AM
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Flames fan here (just to put that out there).

As one blogger said tonight the Oilers are short a centre and a couple quality defencemen and some veteran leadership.

It would be in MacTavish's interest to look at acquiring Giordano and Backlund for Nurse and #1 pick this year.

Flames age group of their core is 2-3 years behind the Oilers and this trade would make both teams stronger.

Oilers get a top 8-10 quality defender with leadership plus a top two way centre coming into his own playing all the tough minutes against top opposition over the last 3 months.

Flames get young drafted talent who will take 2-3 years to be ready for the NHL which also coalesces their core and aligns with their rebuild timeframe.

Would be great to see BOTH Alberta teams be great again!!

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#61 nuge2nail
March 23 2014, 01:06AM
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Milos wrote:

Your intro and outro are greatly contradicting eachother. Shut the **** up.

Oiler Domination To Follow

Lol relax there bud.

I'm sorry I offended you- I'll leave you to your misery.

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#62 john
March 23 2014, 01:07AM
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It's ok, no point to win games now, Panthers and Islanders are a few points ahead of us. 29th place is good to pick 2nd over all.

Eakins has to go after this season, the players don't play for him any more.

Late wins last season let the Flames picked ahead of us and they got Monahan. I hope Nurse turn into a good Dman for us.

Just 10 more games folks, next season get a real coach and we can win some games.

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#63 RexHolez
March 23 2014, 01:21AM
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please don't say anything about how the jersey hitting the ice is disrespectful to the history of the franchise and ex players etc... if you want to see disrespect towards our history, just watch game film of this team for the last 8 years! that's disrespect!

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#64 RexHolez
March 23 2014, 01:22AM
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just be thankful the jersey tossing only started just this year!

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#65 Drowning in Oil
March 23 2014, 01:24AM
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We can blame the players..... And I do. We can blame the coach.... And I do. But the true master of demise is Craig McTavish and his belly full of hot air! It is the General Managers responsibility to put the proper group of players on the ice....... And we are all still waiting on BOLD MOVES. He stands behind his CHOICE for coach even when it is painfully obvious a wood stump would derive the same results. He signed the youth of this team to inflated contracts that last a long, long time when none of them have proved to be winners at this level!

McTavish is the prime reason for the further fall of this once proud empire. His refusal to admit failure just makes the humiliation worse.

He was supposedly the man to carry us out of the cellar but has instead dug us a deep hole to dig out of.

Thanks McT, thanks a lot!!

PS. Can't wait for the McTavish conference where he eases our concern by telling us this is all part of the plan.

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#66 papler
March 23 2014, 01:24AM
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Well, LT predicted this would happen and some point (see GDB 69.0 vs Hurricanes).

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#67 Serious Gord
March 23 2014, 01:25AM
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SmythsMullet wrote:

At the game tonight someone threw their jersey hats etc.(getting old, no jersey thrown on the ice will have the significance as the first). Scrivens picked up a jersey and threw it into the crowd to some deserving fans.

So glad Ben is on this team, he seems like the person to calm the storm. great character.

Someone should have thrown it back at him.

They should be apologizing to that fan and all of the other fans who buy the tickets and the jerseys for the horrible entertainment experience they provided - not criticize them.

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#68 Ryan2
March 23 2014, 01:36AM
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Just viewed the game summary and my reaction was.......is it at the point yet where Oilers d-men pray that they are not teamed up with Gagner as the centerman for an entire game?

As bad as Yak started out, he has improved his defensive game over the last couple of months. Gagner has been lost without the puck for seven years now.......

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#69 Distant
March 23 2014, 01:46AM
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Ryan2 wrote:

Just viewed the game summary and my reaction was.......is it at the point yet where Oilers d-men pray that they are not teamed up with Gagner as the centerman for an entire game?

As bad as Yak started out, he has improved his defensive game over the last couple of months. Gagner has been lost without the puck for seven years now.......

Every time I watch Gagner on the ice, I see a weak and confidence lacking man. It seems he has forgotten how to play the game. He might garner points here and there, but his on ice presence and game play domination are non existent. Trade him. Petry needs to go as well. He is not a real defenceman. Fire Eakins, Lowe and let MacT know his pink slip is close to arriving. Unless he pulls a rabbit out of the hat.

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#70 Drowning in Oil
March 23 2014, 01:46AM
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Ryan2 wrote:

Just viewed the game summary and my reaction was.......is it at the point yet where Oilers d-men pray that they are not teamed up with Gagner as the centerman for an entire game?

As bad as Yak started out, he has improved his defensive game over the last couple of months. Gagner has been lost without the puck for seven years now.......

I agree 100%, but Gagner is McTavish's boy!

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#71 Hoozonphirst
March 23 2014, 01:50AM
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Mac's determination to keep Eakins 'Dallas is not going away' should be grounds for his firing. Not allowing the fans to bring negative signs tells us that Wrecksall sports is a corporate low-life. I really hope the season ticket buyers walk away from next season. Katz/Lowe/Mact are the problem and I won't knowingly put 1 red cent into Oiler coffers. Katz is from this point in time the worst thing to happen to hockey in this city. He should fire himself by selling the team to someone who has half a clue at least.

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#72 27Ginge
March 23 2014, 01:51AM
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I'm totally on board for a rebuild. But only if we are guaranteed to win the lottery the next three years. No franchise could possibly be so inept that they would screw up having three number 1 overall selec...

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#73 27Ginge
March 23 2014, 01:51AM
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Go Oilkings!?

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#74 Distant
March 23 2014, 01:55AM
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On a different note. It's high time the Oilers change their goal horn. With the exception of their fluke Cup Run of 2006, They have been the worst team in the NHL since they adopted that stupid sounding honky horn.

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#75 Distant
March 23 2014, 02:09AM
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Stop ragging on Hall. If I had to play for such an inept group and a foolishly absurd coach, I doubt any kind of real motivation (not just money) would develop. He still gives a damn. He is only 22. He does not compare to Arnott. Oilers fans (I am one) are the absolute worst at reliving the past, whether it be the glory years or the horrible early-mid 1990's. Let the distant past go. It does not have any relevance to what is happening now. The recent past on the other hand...

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#76 @Oilanderp
March 23 2014, 02:10AM
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@@Oilanderp

Judging by the props to trashes ratio, apparently a few people think that a blowout loss in a meaningless game between two non-playoff teams IS WORSE THAN TRADING WAYNE GRETZKY.

Gretzky then went on to score an empty netter which sealed a comeback elimination of the Oilers in the playoffs. The Oilers were up 3 games to 1 and the Kings came back to take the series.

Youth often means well but exaggerates. Everything is the best or the worst and nowhere in between.

You may not want to hear this right now but I am here to tell you that this is not the low point. Things could get a LOT worse.

I cried for days when they traded Gretzky. Days.

Time marches on (for whom the bell tolls).

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#77 Rob F
March 23 2014, 02:27AM
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Distant wrote:

Stop ragging on Hall. If I had to play for such an inept group and a foolishly absurd coach, I doubt any kind of real motivation (not just money) would develop. He still gives a damn. He is only 22. He does not compare to Arnott. Oilers fans (I am one) are the absolute worst at reliving the past, whether it be the glory years or the horrible early-mid 1990's. Let the distant past go. It does not have any relevance to what is happening now. The recent past on the other hand...

saying you give a damn is easy

but he didnt play like he gave a damn tonight.....he was dogging it out there tonight

and he said they weren't embarassed after the game ....the team was a collective -35 tonight

Ah.....yeah i'd be embarrassed.......they werent playing boston or chicago.....they were playing a fellow bottom feeder

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#78 John
March 23 2014, 02:32AM
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Distant wrote:

Stop ragging on Hall. If I had to play for such an inept group and a foolishly absurd coach, I doubt any kind of real motivation (not just money) would develop. He still gives a damn. He is only 22. He does not compare to Arnott. Oilers fans (I am one) are the absolute worst at reliving the past, whether it be the glory years or the horrible early-mid 1990's. Let the distant past go. It does not have any relevance to what is happening now. The recent past on the other hand...

Hall is turning into Carmelo Anthony

great player, puts up nice offensive numbers.....no defence and does not make anyone better around him

hows that working for the knicks

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#79 Distant
March 23 2014, 02:39AM
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@Rob F

He gives a damn most nights, unlike the rest of the team. He minced words in that interview. There is a PR crunch on anyone who says something realistic about the team thanks to Oilers brass. If there is any blame to be placed, it is on to ownership and management.

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#80 Anton (still waiting for playoffs)
March 23 2014, 03:19AM
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We have 7 more home games to get "Fire Eakins!" chant going. Peoples with tickets should still go to the game and start the chant to give this so-called organization a piece of our mind.

I understand that all involved parties should all be removed from this organization which include Katz himself. Since that is not a possibility then we should at least to hold the clown Eakins responsible for this horrendous display.

The game against Avs should be a good example of what Oilers can be when they are managed and coached properly.

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#81 mlcselli
March 23 2014, 03:36AM
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After the last two games, it's pretty hard to imagine what worse could look like. Unfortunately, I think we will see it. The nerve and the arrogance of Taylor Hall to look straight at the camera and say he is not embarrassed by the loss. Shameful!!!!!

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#82 Ed in Edmonton
March 23 2014, 03:46AM
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Here I am at 3:35 unable to sleep, I can't get that game out of my mind. Some have suggested this to be the worst Oiler performance of all time. As a follower of the Oil since 1972, I am challenged to think of a worse one.

After a game like this its easy to get over dramatic and too pessimistic, but zero points in the last 10 games is a possibility. In the immortal words of Laddy Smid " some people are saying that things can't get worse, but they are wrong".

I hope that someone in the Oilers media team (i.e the Edmonton sports media) would ask a player, coach, GM, POHO, owner if they are embarrassed that their loyal fans feel the need to through Oil jersey's on the ice?

Tossing a jersey onto the ice is a sincere comment of the cruel joke the Oil organization is. Don't blame the messenger.

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#83 Ed in Edmonton
March 23 2014, 03:48AM
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Anton (still waiting for playoffs) wrote:

We have 7 more home games to get "Fire Eakins!" chant going. Peoples with tickets should still go to the game and start the chant to give this so-called organization a piece of our mind.

I understand that all involved parties should all be removed from this organization which include Katz himself. Since that is not a possibility then we should at least to hold the clown Eakins responsible for this horrendous display.

The game against Avs should be a good example of what Oilers can be when they are managed and coached properly.

You need to go to the root of the problem. Fire Lowe should be the go.

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#84 Devolution
March 23 2014, 04:17AM
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Distant wrote:

On a different note. It's high time the Oilers change their goal horn. With the exception of their fluke Cup Run of 2006, They have been the worst team in the NHL since they adopted that stupid sounding honky horn.

Why do you care? It's not like it is bothering anyone.

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#85 Anton (still waiting for playoffs)
March 23 2014, 04:36AM
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Ed in Edmonton wrote:

You need to go to the root of the problem. Fire Lowe should be the go.

Well, the root of the problem is actually Daryl Katz. He held this team hostage to get city hall to pay a lucrative amount of money for his little toy and selling fans faulty products of so-called Oilers. Sometimes I wonder, Mark Cuban is also a fan of the game, but why that Cuban can do well with his franchise but Katz can't? You know what, since this team need a nuclear type of explosion to blow everything apart, it may as well have Katz to get his ass to Seattle and then Edmonton can look for a new team. Just like how Winnipeg did with their Jets right?

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#86 Fyvm
March 23 2014, 04:48AM
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On top of all the current discussion about competency and irrelevance where is the bloated and entitled press in all this sh@t? Whats with all the softball questions at every single interview? Afraid of losing your press passes girls? If the sports press in this market had one nut amongst them I would be surprised. Why aren't they more pointed in their questions? Because they have their snouts thrust into the trough up to their ears.

There are stories here that aren't being touched that are a hell of a lot more important than jumping on the back of a 20 yr old 2nd year player. But of course Yak is an easy whipping boy for coaches and media to gang up on. There is alot more rotten in our town than Denmark.

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#87 Kypreos
March 23 2014, 05:27AM
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As a Flames fan I really don't like Oilers but I have watched the Oilers live a few times this year and have a couple of comments. You can see they have talent and when they want to play as a group and they can be dominate. Their effort is only there for a few shifts a game and then lost until the next game. The Eakins/Hall situation is the tip of the ice berg of what is really going on in the room. I don't understand why Oilers management is so arrogant not to not make changes whether it is the coach or players. Maybe they can't because the drug lord is calling the shots.

As a Flames fan, the Oilers even piss me off with their performance this year.

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#88 hemi
March 23 2014, 05:55AM
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There are no words to describe the Oil that really describe just how bad this team really is. From top to bottom, the negativism that has become the Oil is so overwhelming that I truly cannot see a way out of this! Just when we think that the team has sunken to it's lowest point, it turns up the stink dial to eliminate the status quo of low to much more than ever should be expected and accepted.

This year especially has become the BOTTOMLESS PIT OF DISAPPOINTMENT. I find it disgusting when the talking bobble-heads (Lowe,Mac-T,Eakins) explain themselves in the media. Sweet Lord, even the least knowledgeable fan of the game can see that this group is the worst in the league. Will tonight's embarrassment finally hit home with Katz? Surely even his own pride must be hurting as much as the common fan?

Not sure what us fans have ever done to deserve this continuous dose of heartbreak but God Almighty, haven't we paid the piper for our wrongdoings?

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#89 former Notre Dame Hound
March 23 2014, 06:27AM
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Ryan2 wrote:

Just viewed the game summary and my reaction was.......is it at the point yet where Oilers d-men pray that they are not teamed up with Gagner as the centerman for an entire game?

As bad as Yak started out, he has improved his defensive game over the last couple of months. Gagner has been lost without the puck for seven years now.......

Omg...another fan with Gagneritous...horrible disease...he is a #1 chickenshxx and one of the main factors in the da nir of this team...

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#90 wiseguy
March 23 2014, 06:31AM
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Reg Dunlop wrote:

When I was a kid we didn't even have a NHL team to cheer on so quit crying. And we had to walk to school through snow that was over our heads. Damn kids. Get off my lawn.

So the only difference now is global warming has resulted in less snow and you're no longer in school...

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#91 geeker99
March 23 2014, 06:36AM
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@nuge2nail

I wouldn't want to make any drastic moves till kids play a meaningful pro game. It doesnt look like they had to play a bit of defensive hockey growing up. IMO calgary are in a much better rebuild position cause they have a solid defense core.

a couple of years ago a buddy asked who would I trade for a 1-2 d-man. I said Hall cause i didnt think he was going to live to play a third. Then his shoulder operation smarten him up and then the Clutterbuck hit. Man i love that hit, and was close to being a legit hit. Love nuges hockey brain but physically not ready to play in this league. Love ebs but he would be my trade bait. when he is not scoring he is invisible.

This rebuild should be a documentary on how not to rebuild. A young number 1 line doesnt work when you don't have puck moving D and playing dump and chase . goaltending? sorry for the ramble on

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#92 pelhem grenville
March 23 2014, 06:37AM
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one of the Ghermezian brothers' name is Nadir

no?

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#93 Dan
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When I hear the players and coaches react to the jerseys being tossed it makes me upset. Not one of them paid for the jersey they are wearing, unlike the fans. Then to go on some kind of bullcrap rant like this team is some kind of religion and there's some sacred purpose with the logo. Are we really that screwed up in our heads. Who's our god, Kevin Lowe? When the players won't even show up to play for what the fans paid good money to see, it is totally acceptable to have that happen. It's like buying a brand of beer and half the time it's terrible and you can't even drink one, but the company says to you "don't worry it will get better". It wouldn't take long for you to stop trying it. Oilers fans are fed up and have every right to be.

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#94 geeker99
March 23 2014, 06:52AM
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Anton (still waiting for playoffs) wrote:

Well, the root of the problem is actually Daryl Katz. He held this team hostage to get city hall to pay a lucrative amount of money for his little toy and selling fans faulty products of so-called Oilers. Sometimes I wonder, Mark Cuban is also a fan of the game, but why that Cuban can do well with his franchise but Katz can't? You know what, since this team need a nuclear type of explosion to blow everything apart, it may as well have Katz to get his ass to Seattle and then Edmonton can look for a new team. Just like how Winnipeg did with their Jets right?

I know lastnights game was on CBC but Katz lives in Van and doesn;t get sportsnet west? only explanation I can come up with. I can't believe fans can"t take signs in rexall? I say if no swearing is on it have at it, explains jersey tossing.

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#95 Jordan Nugent-Hallkins
March 23 2014, 07:06AM
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The game last night pissed me off so much, I argued with a Flames fan for the entire time because he kept calling a helmet a 'visor'. That's how bad things have gotten.

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#96 DoubleDIon
March 23 2014, 07:08AM
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@Wonger

I don't think McGratton has lost a fight in his time with the Flames. He's also hardly a bully. He only fights heavyweights and isn't chippy at all. Ignorant comment, guys like Scott go after Kessel type players. McGratton has never done anything like that. BTW, McGratton would tool Scott.

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#97 Spydyr
March 23 2014, 07:11AM
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Someone should be fired this morning.If Katz does not have the balls someone should fall on their sword and resign.

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#98 Ari Gold
March 23 2014, 07:12AM
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I tip my hat to the jersey tossing fan, and Scribbles. Both are needed.

Going forward, Scribbles should be the only one kept.

The only one.

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#99 Boiler
March 23 2014, 07:13AM
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Pouzar99 wrote:

How bad have things gotten? A great many people sitting around me tonight and apparently throughout the building were suffering through the third period instead of leaving, for one purpose only - the 50-50 draw, which they expected any second, and $60,000 is nothing to sneeze it.

It soon became obvious team officials were stalling, or tanking if you prefer, because they knew the building would immediately empty, apart from Flames fans, on national television, as it did when they finally posted the winning numbers with less than 5 minutes remaining, which is the latest call I can remember in more than 30 years of coming to nearly every game.

Just another great example of how the Oilers management try over and over to pretend we have a real hockey product worth top dollar. It's funny there's a saying that it's not a lie if your believe it. The Kool aid is on tap at rexall.

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#100 Jordan Nugent-Hallkins
March 23 2014, 07:15AM
Trash it!
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@Ari Gold

I'd keep Nurse too. Nurse and Scrivens, take Ekblad, trade literally every single other player on this team for something resembling NHL talent.

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