NADIR

Lowetide
March 22 2014 11:08PM

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As an Oiler fan, I can give you chapter and verse about low points in organization history. The quick exit in 1983 was nothing—we knew the Oilers would be back. The Pronger trade request was a bad damn day, I suspect you remember it. Tonight? Losing like this to the current edition of the Calgary Flames? Come on.

I'm not one for grand gestures, and I'm certainly not one who believes any business or organization should have a knee jerk reaction to a specific trainwreck. However, the score and the Hall-Eakins exchange are the cherry on top of a truly incredible season.

Oiler fans have, in my opinion, been amazingly patient during this rebuild. Even in this season—which is the most trying year of all—the grumbling has been less than one might expect based on performance/expectation.

The remaining schedule is difficult, the jerseys keep flying from the stands (and may I say that's getting old) and the hits just keep on coming.

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Looked liked Dallas Eakins and Taylor Hall had some frayed nerves tonight. That can be a good thing—this has to be a low for both men—and something good could come from it. Sometimes these things don't work out, and history tells us if one of them is leaving we already know his name.

This has all the makings of a bizarre spring. It is, at the very least, a dramatic low point in a season that defies description. We've passed surprise and driven through anger, and long ago stopped checking the standings.

What's next? I suspect the answer is indifference.

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#251 Smokey
March 23 2014, 02:03PM
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Oh ya the Howsen and MacT returns.

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#252 RexHolez
March 23 2014, 02:05PM
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still waiting for that press conference announcing the dismissal of Lowe and Eakins?? whats the hold up? Skype not working?

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#253 vetinari
March 23 2014, 02:10PM
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Love and hate are separated by a very fine line of indifference and at this point in time, if the Oilers were my wife, I would want a trial separation.

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#254 Bushed
March 23 2014, 02:18PM
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Spydyr wrote:

I have not paid to go to Oiler game or brought any Oiler merchandise for a few years now.I respectfully request more people join me.It is the only way fans can attempt to force change by affecting the teams bottom line.

I'm done as a season ticket holder--no renewal after this season.

I'd have asked for a refund in November if it were possible.

It will be interesting to see how many on the season ticket wait list "postpone" their option to buy and remain on the wait list for another year. It will also be interesting to see if the real renewal rates are made public.

I'll continue to follow the team, but from a distance--safer when dealing with train wrecks.

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#255 Loweblows
March 23 2014, 02:18PM
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Wonder what MacT and KLowe are doing today?

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#256 vetinari
March 23 2014, 02:26PM
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Loweblows wrote:

Wonder what MacT and KLowe are doing today?

Well, I'm pretty sure that PR will go out of their way to keep Lowe away from any reporters or open mic's so that he doesn't go on record saying something stupid to further p1ss off the fan base, and I'm sure that MacT has to call some jersey throwing fans to promise them that they can drop a ceremonial puck at some non-existent future playoff game. Oh yeah, and eat some waffles-- it's Sunday and you have to eat quick before Eakins arrives and lectures them on the benefits of healthy living leading to positive team results.

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#257 Joe
March 23 2014, 02:29PM
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I see Nurse with fire in his belly doing anything and everything to get better. His compete level is off the chart. That is why Edmonton took him at #7. I worry because Taylor Hall had that fire and the Oilers are sucking it out of him. He has been hurt by Oilers, and many others too.

No easy answers.

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#258 Zarny
March 23 2014, 02:29PM
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Throwing jerseys on the ice is pathetic. Scrivens' best move was throwing it back.

Let me guess...wrong systems last night? An umbrella PP and a left-wing lock would cure all no doubt.

No, it's the players. Over the course of the season management shares blame for not having assembled a better roster.

Last night however, is on the players in the dressing room. The best players in the dressing room. Winning in the NHL requires a commitment to defense. It requires playing as a unit not doing it yourself. It means not always being the last guy out of the offensive zone. If Crosby does it no one in the league has an excuse.

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#259 Rod from Viking
March 23 2014, 02:35PM
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oildrop wrote:

Ryan Smyth needs to go. if he would have retired 2 years ago I would have the upmost respect for him. He can not compete. When you watch him play all he does is fall and point fir other players to cover his man. His excuse of a slapshot is amusing. I can not keep count of the countless flybys On the PK I cant recall the last time he blocked a shot. And look at all his goals this year. 75% were shot of him (not deflections, literally shot of his hand or chest) one of them was an empty netter and another 2 were lucky shots. Id rather have a bog body screening on the powerplay than some skinny twig.

Ryan Jones did a better job with no stick on the pp goal, hey should try that again, it is impossible to knock the stick out of his hands, how could you defend the 1-3-1 then? (lol)

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#260 I AM KEVIL L.
March 23 2014, 02:47PM
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It looks like the Montreal Canadiens should be the only Canadian team going into the post season. The Habs, Canada's hockey team!!! Go Habs GO!!!!

Kevin L.

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#261 Harlie
March 23 2014, 02:49PM
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"For the colossal stupidity of what the Edmonton Oilers did this past summer ... If I had run my team into the sewer like that, I wouldn't throw a grenade at the other 29 teams and my own indirectly," Burke said of Lowe. "So I have no intention of speaking to him any time soon."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=yztuw7CJdbw

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#262 Still Hoping
March 23 2014, 02:49PM
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To all those ignorant Lowe and Mac T fans (and media) out there who will not wake up.

If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, it is a duck.

Again, the most disrespected management group in the lead.

You can't build a team trading 4th liners for 4th liners. RECYCLING NHL garbage and has beens does not work.

A successful team is built on the the first 3 lines.

However, the leadership in the organization is inbred with no hockey sense from the president of hockey operations, through the GM, scouting, coach, and assistant coaches.

Right down to players like Smyth, who should hang up his skates.

Keep paying money for this and this is what you get.

Whoever wants my tickets next year can have them.

Will not renew will KLowe is gone and takes all his buddies with him.

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#263 Rod from Viking
March 23 2014, 02:49PM
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If you want to watch a well coached team that plays with structure tune into the CIS final on Sportsnet W and watch the Bears.

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#264 SmythsMullet
March 23 2014, 02:50PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuoBs8QD6HI

and to think, I ditched homework to watch this debacle. The life of an Oilers fan. jokes on us

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#265 David
March 23 2014, 02:51PM
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Joe wrote:

I see Nurse with fire in his belly doing anything and everything to get better. His compete level is off the chart. That is why Edmonton took him at #7. I worry because Taylor Hall had that fire and the Oilers are sucking it out of him. He has been hurt by Oilers, and many others too.

No easy answers.

When will Taylor Hall ask for a trade just like Kesler.

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#266 #ThereGoesTheOilers
March 23 2014, 02:53PM
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I can appreciate the tone from most of us right now because this season has been such a disappointment. However, I am left wondering why should these last two losses sting so badly? We're not a good team and our recent success is misleading. I'm not buying that we're getting better - are you?

I had a quick look back at the previous 3 seasons. Here are all the wins/losses where 7 or more goals were tallied by the winner:

Oct 29, 2010: EDM (7) CHI (4) Nov 9, 2010: CAR (7) EDM (1) Nov 14, 2010: NYR (8) EDM (2) Nov 19, 2011: EDM (9) CHI (2) Feb 2, 2012: EDM (8) CHI (4) Apr 3, 2013: EDM (8) CGY (2) Apr 27, 2013: EDM (7) VAN (2) Nov 19, 2013: EDM (7) CBJ (0) Dec 5, 2013: EDM (8) COL (2) Mar 22, 2014: CGY (8) EDM (1 )

Couple of thoughts - interesting that we beat the Flames last year almost to the same tune. We've been a bad team for a long time now. We knew just how bad when we were eliminated from playoff contention in November.

Look at those games. The majority of the lop-sided victories belong to us. I think that says more about the offensive potential and defensive deficiencies of this group than just how close 'rock-bottom' is.

I'm not selling koolaid here. We suck and we know it. Why do these losses come as such a sting? Even good teams can lose badly. Why should the losingest team in the past 8 years be shocked when they lose so badly?

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#267 #ThereGoesTheOilers
March 23 2014, 03:05PM
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Unless you paid money to be at the game last night. Then I totally get why you're pissed. I would be.

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#268 Rod from Viking
March 23 2014, 03:16PM
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@#ThereGoesTheOilers

I think they were playing decent and with some confidence because of the unsustainable goaltending.They were not brutal against Buffalo and started all right last night, They should be trying to finish hard but I think a lot of them are booking holidays and tee times instead of playing the way Eakins wants. How does everyone think the rest of the season will go against virtually all playoff teams? I don't think anything will change until one of the #1 picks on this team is traded for a player that is a better fit on the top six. I also hope that some teams that may be trading partners either don't make the play-offs or are out in the first round.

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#269 Sean17
March 23 2014, 03:18PM
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I had a pair of club seats given to me from a corporate sponsor I deal with. My wife is due any day now so, I decided to give them to my Dad. They were for pick-up. The Oilers would not let me change the name for pick-up to my Dad because I was not the owner of the tickets. The sponsor was not available to call in to change on a Saturday. So, I told them to donate them to a kids organization. They said I cannot do that. All worked out I guess as it showed two empty seats on TV, my Dad and I didn't have to sit through it and neither did some poor little kid! But I guess Katz still got his money….

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#270 Zamboni Driver
March 23 2014, 03:22PM
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I'm still looking for a 'young talent' defender to tell me where Hall was yesterday.

Eberle?

Nugent-Hopkins (wherever he has been all year).

Lowe did not play. MacTavish didn't either.

These "young superstars with huge upside" did.

And got waxed.

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#271 milo
March 23 2014, 03:48PM
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7 is a number

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#272 Eulers
March 23 2014, 03:49PM
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I don't understand all the hate directed to MacT given the train-wreck left by Tambi. MacT has done a good job of retooling the team in a short time, but has a couple more tools to trade out of town. Tambi is the reason we've been bouncing off rock bottom for so... many... years...

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#273 Mo Playoffs Mo Problems
March 23 2014, 03:55PM
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With the frustration the fan base is feeling, does anyone think that the Oilers can draft Aaron Ekblad? Why would fans expect anything different next season when Nurse/Ekblad should likely going back to junior to develop?

Can the organization pass on a player that can play 2/3 C next year in the NHL in Bennett/Reinhart/Draisaitl?

I know another 18-19 year old won't solve the team's issues and carry them to the promised land, but it would be the first step in changing the makeup of the top 6 forwards and offer some signal of change while the D they've already drafted continue to develop...

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#274 samurai003
March 23 2014, 04:00PM
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Loweblows wrote:

Wonder what MacT and KLowe are doing today?

Getting ready for golf season, as they have done for the past 8 years.

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#275 Rod from Viking
March 23 2014, 04:01PM
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milo wrote:

7 is a number

He would make a lot more money if they made the play-offs, they also will be spending to the cap and he has more $ in management than most teams. I don't like how he slithered away after the Arena deal or the BS letter defending K-Lowe.It would be good to know what he is thinking and if 25% plus don't renew their tickets maybe we will find out.

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#276 hankthetank
March 23 2014, 04:02PM
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milo wrote:

7 is a number

Yeah.

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#277 vetinari
March 23 2014, 04:03PM
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@Admin -

please review comment #271 and remove the offensive commentary.

Debate management decisions, criticize ownership or complain about players but leave out the anti-semitic commentary.

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#278 milo
March 23 2014, 04:10PM
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vetinari wrote:

@Admin -

please review comment #271 and remove the offensive commentary.

Debate management decisions, criticize ownership or complain about players but leave out the anti-semitic commentary.

hello there

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#279 M22
March 23 2014, 04:10PM
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milo wrote:

7 is a number

updated.

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#280 milo
March 23 2014, 04:11PM
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stop

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#281 Eulers
March 23 2014, 04:16PM
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@milo I'm sure you spend a lot of time wondering why other people don't see things the way you do. Ever wondered if you could learn something from the rest of us?

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#282 samurai003
March 23 2014, 04:18PM
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Eulers wrote:

I don't understand all the hate directed to MacT given the train-wreck left by Tambi. MacT has done a good job of retooling the team in a short time, but has a couple more tools to trade out of town. Tambi is the reason we've been bouncing off rock bottom for so... many... years...

Really, Tambo? You've got to look further up the ladder...@KBlowe.

I'm no MacT fan, but he made a good move with Hendricks and Scrivens.

If he can pull a magical D pair in the offseason and get rid of Eakins, only then will I tip my hat to him.

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#283 milo
March 23 2014, 04:20PM
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@milo I'm sure you spend a lot of time wondering why other people don't see things the way you do. Ever wondered if you could learn something from the rest of us?

stop

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#284 Mo Playoffs Mo Problems
March 23 2014, 04:26PM
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@milo

Maybe you can go find a racist blog where they're willing to talk hockey with you?

It doesn't seem to be working the other way around.

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#285 6 ring circus
March 23 2014, 04:33PM
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Loweblows wrote:

Wonder what MacT and KLowe are doing today?

They are both at Katz's house washing his windows, deciding on who they are going to throw under the bus at the end of the season.

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#287 Jeffff
March 23 2014, 04:48PM
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Lowetide wrote:

Milo: This is a hockey blog. Your views are not acceptable here. Please refrain from continuing or I will be forced to ban you.

Thanks,

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#288 th
March 23 2014, 04:54PM
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What was the point of building a top heavy team with "offensively gifted" players again? Oilers are sitting at 23rd in the league with 2.43 goals per game

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#289 ColourMeImpressed
March 23 2014, 04:57PM
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Lowetide wrote:

Milo: This is a hockey blog. Your views are not acceptable here. Please refrain from continuing or I will be forced to ban you.

Robin Brownlee, if you're reading this - THIS is how you moderate.

You don't just ban people for saying something stupid without so much as a warning.

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#290 Casey
March 23 2014, 05:14PM
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luke wrote:

Omark and a second for weber???

More like Petry(he's a UFA so even better!!) and 7th for Chara and Seiddenberg!!!

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#291 Serious Gord
March 23 2014, 05:23PM
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Zarny wrote:

Throwing jerseys on the ice is pathetic. Scrivens' best move was throwing it back.

Let me guess...wrong systems last night? An umbrella PP and a left-wing lock would cure all no doubt.

No, it's the players. Over the course of the season management shares blame for not having assembled a better roster.

Last night however, is on the players in the dressing room. The best players in the dressing room. Winning in the NHL requires a commitment to defense. It requires playing as a unit not doing it yourself. It means not always being the last guy out of the offensive zone. If Crosby does it no one in the league has an excuse.

So is booing pathetic?

Apathy is pathetic. (Has the same roots even) Endlessly defending the old boy establishment is pathetic. Hoping for better results from a management group that has been a serial failure in the past is pathetic.

Throwing a jersey on the ice is one step up from booing. It takes courage to do it. It is the polar opposite of pathetic.

If fans can throw hats onto the ice in celebration without fear of expulsion then throwing a jersey onto the ice in disgust should also be allowed without penalty. And to expel a fan for wearing the jersey inside out rather than apologizing to the fan and all the others who are suffering because of this organizations incompetence is just more evidence of how rotten and out of touch this organization is.

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#292 Serious Gord
March 23 2014, 05:28PM
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Reflecting back on these lost years - years of misery, firings, contract clashes etc. I am fascinated/amazed that Kevin Lowe hasn't resigned long ago.

What personality trait does he possess that prevents him from doing what any same executive would have done long ago?

Is there a parallel in hockey? In pro sport ?

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#293 Germoil
March 23 2014, 05:42PM
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Serious Gord wrote:

Reflecting back on these lost years - years of misery, firings, contract clashes etc. I am fascinated/amazed that Kevin Lowe hasn't resigned long ago.

What personality trait does he possess that prevents him from doing what any same executive would have done long ago?

Is there a parallel in hockey? In pro sport ?

Narcissism?

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#294 Harry2
March 23 2014, 06:03PM
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baggedmilk wrote:

I can assure you this is one of the dumbest/most hilarious things I've ever read. Untrue 100%

Then answer me this simple question. Why do none of you ask management the questions that need to be asked? Now whos the dummy. Or should I say coward

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#295 Harry2
March 23 2014, 06:16PM
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Spydyr wrote:

I have not paid to go to Oiler game or brought any Oiler merchandise for a few years now.I respectfully request more people join me.It is the only way fans can attempt to force change by affecting the teams bottom line.

Im on board man. Not one dime comes out of my pocket towards the Oilers. And I have switched from my local Rexall pharmacy to a non Rexall more than 20 mins away.

May seem like small potatoes but I encourage all Oiler fans to.follow.

Now after reading this I can just see Lowetide running like Smithers up to Katz mansion to tell him THE REVOLUTION IS COMING!!!

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#296 YAKCITY64
March 23 2014, 06:48PM
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Jordan Nugent-Hallkins wrote:

Should be a good Brownlee article coming out on this soon. He's one of the only writers on here that tells it like it is concerning the Oilers these days.

No offense meant to LT and Gregor, but they seem to try to keep it fairly PC.

I agree it seems that Brownlee and Struddy are the only real men in the media. Gregor is starting to sound like a staffer clone and must be pushing for a job with the oilers somewhere. LT might have the least hockey IQ not only in the media but in all of Edmonton I have no Idea how guys like this get a show that discusses sports this guy is clueless. I have listened to Gregor from the very beginning I support the team 100% but anytime LT comes on I change the station and I don't think I have ever done that with the team before.

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#297 YAKCITY64
March 23 2014, 06:54PM
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Zamboni Driver wrote:

I'm still looking for a 'young talent' defender to tell me where Hall was yesterday.

Eberle?

Nugent-Hopkins (wherever he has been all year).

Lowe did not play. MacTavish didn't either.

These "young superstars with huge upside" did.

And got waxed.

I agree with these kids not showing up but #1 Mac T was the idiot that signed all of these kids to Huge Deals. Also why are we trying to hold kids accountable when the management and owners and buddys can do whatever they want. Change the structure and create something that is basically what Matt Hendricks was talking about on After Hours. This will not happen until management changes. Sorry.

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#298 Harlie
March 23 2014, 07:08PM
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Serious Gord wrote:

Reflecting back on these lost years - years of misery, firings, contract clashes etc. I am fascinated/amazed that Kevin Lowe hasn't resigned long ago.

What personality trait does he possess that prevents him from doing what any same executive would have done long ago?

Is there a parallel in hockey? In pro sport ?

Allow me to paraphrase KLowe himself.

" Well first of all, he's a moron. "

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#299 Rod from Viking
March 23 2014, 07:15PM
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YAKCITY64 wrote:

I agree with these kids not showing up but #1 Mac T was the idiot that signed all of these kids to Huge Deals. Also why are we trying to hold kids accountable when the management and owners and buddys can do whatever they want. Change the structure and create something that is basically what Matt Hendricks was talking about on After Hours. This will not happen until management changes. Sorry.

Mac T only extended Nuge to the six year extension( pretty tough not to follow up on Hall & Ebs deal made with Tambo AKA Lowe) and he extended Gagner another 2 years after this with a NT for 14/15 and not for 15/16.

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#300 The Real Scuba Steve
March 23 2014, 07:22PM
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Harry2 wrote:

Im on board man. Not one dime comes out of my pocket towards the Oilers. And I have switched from my local Rexall pharmacy to a non Rexall more than 20 mins away.

May seem like small potatoes but I encourage all Oiler fans to.follow.

Now after reading this I can just see Lowetide running like Smithers up to Katz mansion to tell him THE REVOLUTION IS COMING!!!

Kazt is probably in his out of town castle, probably doesn't know his team even played last night.

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