Monday Mailbag - March 31st

baggedmilk
March 31 2014 11:22AM

QandA

Every Monday we'll be taking your questions and tossing them out to our writers to give their point of view.  Whether you're looking for a stats angle or player perspective from guys that have played in the show, we've got you covered. To ask a question, email me at baggedmilk@oilersnation.com and I'll add it to the list.

1) Ashton Simpson asks - Do you think the player of the game jacket has been a good idea? The reason I ask is that it seems as though Dallas Eakins has taken something that should be fun/funny and turned it into something a bit too serious?

Lowetide:

If the players value the game jacket idea, then it's a good thing. A jacket (especially one from the military) could have great meaning.

Jason Gregor: 

I don’t think it matters what the hat, jacket, cap is as long as the players enjoy the experience of singling out an individual who had a big impact on the game. I wish they still had the leather jacket from a few years ago. It was greasy. I do agree that comparing combat to sports can be a very slippery slope, and maybe it is a bit serious, but the players I’ve spoke to seem to like it.

Jason Strudwick: 

It is a cool idea. it is a badge of honour.

Robin Brownlee:

It's a gimmick. Teams have used such things for years. Don't see it as a good or bad idea. It's meant to be fun -- not big on the military connection, though. Don't need to tie a gag item like this to something as real-world serious as the military.

Wanye:

At this stage in the Oilers season they should award anyone that has done anything good on the ice the "Player of the game Maybach." There is no reward too large to try and pry a decent performance out of any of the 23 stout hearted men suiting up in Oilers silks in my mind.

Brian Sutherby:

I think it's a cool idea. Some teams have funny get ups , some teams just give away the game puck, others use something maybe a little more inspirational like the Oilers and some teams have nothing at all. As a player it's cool to be recognized by your peers that you contributed to a big win, no matter what it is. The jacket is all good with me.

baggedmilk:

If the guys are into it, then it's a good idea. Honouring the troops is always a good thing.


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2) @JRoddman asks - In your opinion, will Perron be with the team long enough to make buying his jersey worthwhile? I've never actually bought an Oilers jersey before and I want to pick a winner.

Lowetide:

Yes, I think so. Perron was the first major move by new GM MacT, I suspect he'll be here at least the length of his current contract, and likely longer. He's an excellent player. I thought he'd be good, he's been better.

Jason Gregor:

I’d hope so. He is exactly the type of player they need, and even if he does get traded your jersey will always stand out and people will say, “Perron, good choice, I liked how he played.” You likely won’t get razzed as much as the guy who bought a Barker or Belanger jersey.

Jason Strudwick:

I would buy a Messier jersey

Robin Brownlee:

This is a real question? How long makes buying his jersey worthwhile? One more season? Three?

Wanye:

If I were you I would buy a classic Oilers jersey - Gretzky, Messier, Fuhr. With a team in this state of freefall anyone could go anywhere at any time. Or we could continue to assess matters until 2099.

Brian Sutherby:

I don't think anything in hockey is a guarantee. Any player can be moved but I think he has been a great addition to this team. Very skilled and plays with a little jam. Not big, but plays bigger than many of the other skill guys. This team needs that fire. As long as things are good in the room, I don't see him going anywhere.

baggedmik:

The team needs more DP. 


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3) @Krazie94 asks - How do you think the Oilers will solve their 2C problem? By draft, free agency, trade or keep Gagner in the role?

Lowetide:

I think they'll trade Jordan Eberle in a package to Philadelphia for C Sean Couturier and D Braydon Coburn. It'll be the showcase deal in a busy summer.

Jason Gregor:

Draft is the most likely. Very few teams want to trade a big, skilled centre. There aren’t many of them out there. If Ekblad is gone, I’d look long and hard at Leon Draisaitl. He has excellent skill and size. You can always improve a player’s footspeed, but you can’t make him taller.

Jason Strudwick:

I think they should focus on the D group. That area needs more support.

Robin Brownlee:

Leon Draisaitl.

Wanye:

I'd bet a trade but I have left trade deadline day in tears 3 years in a row. So it's hard to say.

Brian Sutherby:

If it's by draft you are talking about another 2-3 years so I have to think by trade or free agency. I don't think they want to continue with Gagner in the role, but his contract doesn't make it very easy to part ways either. A big trade is needed.

baggedmilk:

I think the days of Samwise are drawing to an end. Other teams in the Pacific division are making it very obvious that you need some size to be mixed into the lineup. The only way Gagner will stay around is if they trade one of the other smaller guys.


4) Taylor Lineham asks - Should Theo Fleury's #14 be hanging in the Saddledome? Will Ryan Smyth's 94 be the next to hang in the rafters at Rexall? Should Smyth's jersey even be retired?

Lowetide:

I think Fleury deserves the honour, along with Lanny McDonald, Mike Vernon, Al MacInnis, Doug Gilmour, Joe Nieuwendyk and Jarome Iginla. Plus Phil Russell and Paul Reinhart.

Jason Gregor:

I would put Fleury’s jersey in the rafters, and I believe the Flames will do so in the next few years. Currently, the Oilers have a rule that a player needs to be in the Hockey Hall of Fame to have his jersey hoisted to the rafters. Smyth won’t be going to the HHOF, but he should be remembered somehow. I’d like to see a Wall of honour in the new rink, and if they have one, #94 would be an obvious inclusion.

Jason Strudwick:

Yes. I think his jersey should be retired. I think 94 will be in the rafters.

Robin Brownlee:

Unless the Oilers change organizational convention, Smyth's jersey won't hang in Rexall until he's in the HHOF. That's not going to happen. Maybe the team will have a separate area in the new building where they honor players who aren't in the HHOF. Theo Fleury has a chance to be in the HHOF. Not sure how the Flames approach that as far as retiring numbers.

Wanye:

Ryan Smyth is the greatest modern day Oiler in my mind. He should absolutely have his jersey retired at the conclusion of his career for being the awesome soldier that he is. Fleury too for that matter although if I were in charge the Flames would be disbanded as an NHL franchise - not worrying about retiring numbers.

Brian Sutherby:

I like Ryan Smyth and know he has done great things for this team and community. He's been a model citizen and hockey player for the Oilers and Canada. If there is a player in the last decade in Edmonton that deserves it, it's Ryan Smyth, but I feel that the jerseys hanging in the rafters have set the bar too high. It's Hall of Famers and Stanley Cups in Edmonton and I just don't quite see him in the same company. I don't think you base everything on championships, but I don't think his numbers are quite there either.

baggedmilk:

Ryan Smyth is a saint and I will personally track down and spank anyone that suggests otherwise. Mullet wigs for urrbody!


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5) @DLetch44 asks - What do you think of Justin Schultz's body language? I was at the NYI game a few weeks ago and I noticed that he looked uninterested in what was going on? He seemed to be following the play with his shoulders slumped down.

Lowetide:

How he looks doesn't reflect level of interest imo. It appears to be his style. He looks 'easy breezy' and that's okay. He needs to be better, but it has nothing to do with his body language.

Jason Gregor:

I think he is very interested in the game. I think his overall game has improved. He wants to be better, and I suspect he will be. My only issue is that he rarely enters a fray. I don’t expect him to mix it up, but I’d like to see less hesitation when those situations arise. Just go in and grab a guy. Show them you aren’t afraid

Jason Strudwick:

If he keeps shooting from the point on the PP he can slouch all he wants!

Robin Brownlee:

Getting an accurate read on "body language" with any player, even if you see him day-in and day-out for years, is tricky at the best of times. Reading something into Schultz based on one game is a reach of epic proportion.

Wanye:

Justin Schultz looks softer than salt water taffy left in the Texas sun for a week in July. I agree with you - he doesn't look like he is firing on all cylinders.

Brian Sutherby:

I think this is a just very nonchalant player and personality. You see his interviews and he seems like a quiet guy that plays a quiet/soft offensive game on the back end. Tremendously skilled and talented and in time could be that D-man everyone is expecting him to be. Expecting him to appear physically or emotionally engaged would be a surprise for me. He doesn't seem to be that type of player and that's OK. Sergei Gonchar and Mike Green were guys I played with that appear similar and are great NHLer's. There is plenty of room for his game to improve but this gets back to team make up. It's fine to have guys like this, it's a problem to have a team full of them.

baggedmilk:

The reason Justin Schultz's shoulders are sagging is because of the weight of expectations that he's been carrying. The guy hasn't even played two full seasons yet and he's expected to win the Norris or something. That's the Oilers fault, not his.

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#1 The Towel Boy
March 31 2014, 11:37AM
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To the guy asking about the Perron jersey:

Do it.

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#2 Chris
March 31 2014, 11:37AM
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Bagged Milk answering these questions with journalists and former NHLers is my favorite part.

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#4 #ThereGoesTheOilers
March 31 2014, 11:46AM
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Pretty fair questions. Baggedmilk - where are the nasty pertinent questions 90 percent of the fans have on their minds these days?

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#5 Czar
March 31 2014, 11:48AM
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"The team needs more DP."

The Oilers have been getting DP'd all season, let it end!

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#6 Oilerboy1112
March 31 2014, 11:49AM
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If I were to choose Smyth would be in the HHOF.

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#7 Wait until next year!!
March 31 2014, 11:49AM
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baggedmilk wrote:

Pulitzer Prize winning baggedmilk... thank you.

Pulitzer Prize...is that a new donut at Tim Hortons?

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#8 laughing pug
March 31 2014, 11:51AM
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I like this article format.

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#9 ubermiguel
March 31 2014, 11:51AM
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"baggedmik: The team needs more DP." LOL! Some nights the Oilers get DP'd pretty good by the other team. (Head to Urban Dictionary in case you miss the double entendre...absolutely NSFW).

edit: Darn, Czar beat me to the joke!.

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#12 Baresnake
March 31 2014, 12:13PM
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Chris wrote:

Bagged Milk answering these questions with journalists and former NHLers is my favorite part.

Are we calling Wanye a journalist now? LONG LIVE BAGGEDMILK!!!!

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#13 Spydyr
March 31 2014, 12:17PM
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2) @JRoddman asks - In your opinion, will Perron be with the team long enough to make buying his jersey worthwhile? I've never actually bought an Oilers jersey before and I want to pick a winner.

If you want to pick a winner why are you purchasing an Oilers sweater?

Please do not enable Katz by giving him your hard earned money.Wait till the team makes the playoffs at least.

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#14 Spydyr
March 31 2014, 12:19PM
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Should Smyth's jersey even be retired?

The standard has been set for numbers hanging from the rafters.Either loose an eye of win the Cup and be in the HHOF.

Smyth has done none of the above.

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#15 mayorblaine
March 31 2014, 12:19PM
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i could hope that Lowetide would be correct in Ebs for Couturier. Philly would be dumb to do it but yes, please yes! now.

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#16 mayorblaine
March 31 2014, 12:21PM
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honour Smyth with a trophy named after him or somethig of that sort. not a jersey raising. not worthy.

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#17 Spydyr
March 31 2014, 12:25PM
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mayorblaine wrote:

honour Smyth with a trophy named after him or somethig of that sort. not a jersey raising. not worthy.

What would the trophy be for? Most offensive zone penalties?

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#18 Rod from Viking
March 31 2014, 12:29PM
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They could retire Smyth's stick, it could probably hold up part of the rafters in "Jolly Rogers" center.

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#19 mayorblaine
March 31 2014, 12:30PM
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Spydyr wrote:

What would the trophy be for? Most offensive zone penalties?

most conflicted personality/best cry face.

he is though a hardworker so what about a GRIT award. grit.

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#20 zenoil
March 31 2014, 12:49PM
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Military theme? Baaa Player of the game should be fun.

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#21 Spydyr
March 31 2014, 12:52PM
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mayorblaine wrote:

most conflicted personality/best cry face.

he is though a hardworker so what about a GRIT award. grit.

Best mullet?

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#22 New Season New Hope
March 31 2014, 12:54PM
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If we had won in 2006, my opinion would be different but don't retire Smyth's jersey. Instead get a hold pile of the paddles he calls a stick and award players with a Ryan Smyth stick for every truly greasy goal that is scored. This year, they would all go to Perron and Gordon and we wouldn't need that many of them.

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#23 Sevenseven
March 31 2014, 12:56PM
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Oilers signed another small defenseman today.

Exactly what we need.

Oiler dominance to follow.

Boo Jeanshorts.

Fire Lowe.

Trade Gagner.

When is spring? Its colder than Eakins heart out there.

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#24 Sevenseven
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Oilers signed another small defenseman today.

Exactly what we need.

Oiler dominance to follow.

Boo Jeanshorts.

Fire Lowe.

Trade Gagner.

When is spring? Its colder than Eakins heart out there.

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#26 J.R.
March 31 2014, 01:32PM
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I like this question and answer thingy....keep it up.

Also - Just hoist Smyth's jersey to the rafters. I know he'll never be HHOF...who cares...he deserves a rafter excemption IMO.

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#27 Enough Already
March 31 2014, 01:45PM
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@ Lowetide - Stop already with the Eberle for Coburn and Couturier trade. That will never happen. Why would Philly trade a 6'3" 21 year old who will someday be a Selke nominee. His salary is $1.75M for the next 2 years. He's #2 forward in ice time on the team and the guy who plays against the number one line on every team they play. Also appears to be one of Berube's favourites. I don't think they would trade him straight up for a small $6M player who is -16. Let alone throw in their #2 DMan (Coburn). Timmonen being #1, but likely retiring at the end of the year.

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#28 Loweblows
March 31 2014, 01:47PM
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Oilers have recalled Will the thrill Acton. Let the scoring begin.

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#29 Czar
March 31 2014, 01:50PM
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They extended Arcobello for next year, good move.

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#30 Loweblows
March 31 2014, 01:50PM
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Giving a miliitary jersey to an oiler player is disrespectful. A tutu maybe but not a military jersey.

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#31 tileguy
March 31 2014, 01:53PM
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J.R. wrote:

I like this question and answer thingy....keep it up.

Also - Just hoist Smyth's jersey to the rafters. I know he'll never be HHOF...who cares...he deserves a rafter excemption IMO.

Other notable rafter excemptions could be 1.Chris Pronger 2. Linus Omark 3.......................

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#32 Wanye
March 31 2014, 02:14PM
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Baresnake wrote:

Are we calling Wanye a journalist now? LONG LIVE BAGGEDMILK!!!!

CERTAINLY NOT THAT GUY IS A CRUMB AND HE SUCKS AND EVERYTHING SUCKS AND I HATE THE OILERS AND I REMARKED THAT ALOUD TO MY FRIENDS AS WE WATCHED THE OILERS LOSE LAST NIGHT BOO EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE

AMEN

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#33 ubermiguel
March 31 2014, 02:29PM
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Czar wrote:

They extended Arcobello for next year, good move.

There were doubts he would resign here, I wouldn't have blamed him if he didn't. I'm very glad to see this character guy in the organization.

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#34 The Towel Boy
March 31 2014, 02:33PM
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Spydyr wrote:

What would the trophy be for? Most offensive zone penalties?

Hardest Slapshot.

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#35 Spydyr
March 31 2014, 02:34PM
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Sooooo....looks like the Oilers are loading up on small players again.How is that working out so far?

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#36 Spydyr
March 31 2014, 02:35PM
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The Towel Boy wrote:

Hardest Slapshot.

Timed with a sun dial.

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#37 Tikkanese
March 31 2014, 02:42PM
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It is the HOCKEY Hall of Fame, not the NHL Hall of Fame. If Clark Gilles can make it, Smyth has a shot. He'll certainly make the IIHF-HOF.

Olympic Gold? check

World Cup Gold? check

World Juniors Gold? check

Plus other golds in World Championships, Spenglers etc and Captaining Team Canada a bunch of times.

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#38 Spydyr
March 31 2014, 02:56PM
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Tikkanese wrote:

It is the HOCKEY Hall of Fame, not the NHL Hall of Fame. If Clark Gilles can make it, Smyth has a shot. He'll certainly make the IIHF-HOF.

Olympic Gold? check

World Cup Gold? check

World Juniors Gold? check

Plus other golds in World Championships, Spenglers etc and Captaining Team Canada a bunch of times.

So failing to make the playoffs and playing in so many World Championships and Spengler Cups the Europeans call you Captain Canada is reason to get your number in the rafters.Mine is winning the Stanley Cup.

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#39 ubermiguel
March 31 2014, 02:58PM
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Spydyr wrote:

Sooooo....looks like the Oilers are loading up on small players again.How is that working out so far?

Arco is a rare win for this organization, you don't throw those away for nothing. Especially ones that punch above their weight class. I've seen enough big guys that play small on this team (e.g.: Penner, Bonsignoire, Paajarvi, Nash, Niinimaki, Mikhnov, Kelly, Stajduhar, etc etc etc) that I'll welcome little guys that play big.

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#40 Oilcruzer
March 31 2014, 03:01PM
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Tikkanese wrote:

It is the HOCKEY Hall of Fame, not the NHL Hall of Fame. If Clark Gilles can make it, Smyth has a shot. He'll certainly make the IIHF-HOF.

Olympic Gold? check

World Cup Gold? check

World Juniors Gold? check

Plus other golds in World Championships, Spenglers etc and Captaining Team Canada a bunch of times.

Good list. It makes for a great debate. Views are slanted now that twilight is upon this storied career.

What player gave more for Canada that isn't in the HHOF? As I recall, he's also top 101 players all time in goal scoring, although maybe I read that wrong.

Everyone brings up Gillies and Eagleson. Those two were admitted mistakes.

Putting 94 in there wouldn't be a mistake.

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#41 Tikkanese
March 31 2014, 03:01PM
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Spydyr wrote:

So failing to make the playoffs and playing in so many World Championships and Spengler Cups the Europeans call you Captain Canada is reason to get your number in the rafters.Mine is winning the Stanley Cup.

In many peoples eyes, Olympic and World Cup golds are just as, if not more important than Stanley Cups. The rest was just a side note although you chose to focus solely on that.

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#42 Spydyr
March 31 2014, 03:08PM
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Tikkanese wrote:

In many peoples eyes, Olympic and World Cup golds are just as, if not more important than Stanley Cups. The rest was just a side note although you chose to focus solely on that.

The hardest trophy to win in any professional sport is the Stanley Cup four seven games series.That are physical and emotional, it is a battle of attrition.

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#43 Gillies
March 31 2014, 03:24PM
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Tikkanese wrote:

It is the HOCKEY Hall of Fame, not the NHL Hall of Fame. If Clark Gilles can make it, Smyth has a shot. He'll certainly make the IIHF-HOF.

Olympic Gold? check

World Cup Gold? check

World Juniors Gold? check

Plus other golds in World Championships, Spenglers etc and Captaining Team Canada a bunch of times.

All those do not equal 4 Stanley Cups protecting Bossy and Trottier.

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#44 Paul
March 31 2014, 03:25PM
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@Oilcruzer

2 words - Paul Henderson.

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#45 Tikkanese
March 31 2014, 03:36PM
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Gillies wrote:

All those do not equal 4 Stanley Cups protecting Bossy and Trottier.

All that "protecting" never got him on any international teams. Let alone 2 X on the ultimate international teams, Olympics and World Cup (or in Gillies' day the Canada Cup).

edit: my mistake, the site I looked at did not list his lone Canada Cup appearance in '81. I was too young then to remember.

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#46 Gillies
March 31 2014, 03:42PM
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@Tikkanese

I am not an Isle fan, so not sure why I am defending him, but his Bio is actaully pretty impressive. HOF impressive??? But I would put him in ahead of 94.

http://www.legendsofhockey.net/LegendsOfHockey/jsp/LegendsMember.jsp?mem=p200202&type=Player&page=bio&list=ByName

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#47 Tikkanese
March 31 2014, 04:08PM
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Gillies wrote:

I am not an Isle fan, so not sure why I am defending him, but his Bio is actaully pretty impressive. HOF impressive??? But I would put him in ahead of 94.

http://www.legendsofhockey.net/LegendsOfHockey/jsp/LegendsMember.jsp?mem=p200202&type=Player&page=bio&list=ByName

I don't know why I even bring him up. I guess because he is the favorite whipping boy as guidelines for who is HHOF worthy.

I am old school and would like to see the Probert's, McSorely's and Semenko's make the HHOF someday. It is the Fame part of the title that gets guys like Gillies in and makes these debates. There really is no set criteria other than a popularity vote for who gets in.

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#48 hagargt
March 31 2014, 05:16PM
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Czar wrote:

"The team needs more DP."

The Oilers have been getting DP'd all season, let it end!

Super duper funny!

As for Smyths jersey... he has been a slightly brighter star in a pretty big cluster of dim lights. GREAT guy for the team, and for the community, but I personally don't see his talent being high enough to get a jersey hoisted. I won't however argue anyone that thinks his jersey should be retired. I don't feel nearly strong enough on my stance to defend it.

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#49 J.R.
March 31 2014, 05:35PM
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Maybe any player that cries when traded should have his jersey retired...by how things look today it'll be a short list.

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#50 CMG30
March 31 2014, 08:10PM
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Spydyr wrote:

Should Smyth's jersey even be retired?

The standard has been set for numbers hanging from the rafters.Either loose an eye of win the Cup and be in the HHOF.

Smyth has done none of the above.

What's an eye worth in teeth?

Hang up the Jersey!

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