Baggedmilk Live Blogs the Trade Deadline ***UPDATED***

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March 05 2014 08:19AM

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It looks like my first order of business at the Nation is to sit on my ass and watch TV for the day. Life is good. Which Oilers will be traded? How many 4th round picks will we collect? No one knows for sure, but I'm "excited" to find out.

What's Happened So Far

Yesterday, MacT took care of the goaltending part of his to do list with a couple of trades. After only 4 months, #BryzNation is no more. Our favourite Russian Space Lord was traded to the Wild for a 4th round pick and I wish him well unless he is playing against the Oilers. MacT followed up the Bryzgalov trade by scoring Viktor Fasth for a 5th rounder in 2014 and a 3rd rounder in 2015.

Fasth still has another year left on his contract at $2.9 million and should make for a solid running mate with our beloved Ben Scrivens. It'll be interesting to see how they battle for ice time down the stretch. WHO COULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT THE OILERS WOULD HAVE BETTER GOALTENDING THAN THE CANUCKS WHEN YESTERDAY STARTED?!!? One thing is for sure, Vancouver sucks at goalies.

Anyway...

The Likely Candidates

As much as it sucks to say it, Ales Hemsky will likely not be an Oiler when the day is done. I never understood why some people dislike Hemsky so much. He's been a warrior for the Oilers, has played hurt, and was often the best player on a team full of clowns.  The return for Hemsky is likely definitely going to be disappointing and I'll even go so far as to predict a Twitter meltdown when the trade goes down. He scored a beauty goal last night and it bums me out to think about him on another team.

  • baggedmilk's prediction: Ales Hemsky for a 2nd and a 3rd round pick

I'd also be willing to bet Wanye's lunch money that Ryan Smyth will be leaving town again. For Smytty's sake, I hope MacT sends him to a contender for a chance to win the Cup. Personally, I'd like to see him re-signed for another year and finish where he started, but the guy deserves a chance to win. If anyone is down to go cry at the airport with me, just hit me up on Twitter.

  • baggedmilk's prediction: Ryan Smyth for a 4th round pick and my tears

Next up on your ol' pal BM's chopping block is Nick Schultz. The thing that bums me out about trading Nick Schultz is the fact that the Tom Gilbert trade will likely end up as a late round pick. At the time, lots of people were really into the Gilbert trade (I was too) but now it seems like it was all for nothing. Gilbert is having a solid year #FancyStats-wise in Florida (Jonathan Willis, Lowetide, Tyler Dellow etc. can explain) and now it seems like Nick Schultz will be traded for any asset MacT can grab. Seems like a Tambo trade lost, no?

  • baggedmilk's prediction: Nick Schultz for a 6th round pick

Last of my likely moves is another favourite of mine, Ryan Jones.  Jonesy hasn't been the same guy since the eye injury but I'll always love the man with the flow. He gave a lot of effort with not as much skill and he used his carcass to score some goals in his time here. Lots of stats guys disliked him, but luckily I don't know how to math - my guess is that we say so long to the flow today.

  • baggedmilk's prediction: Jonesy for a low pick


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The Gagner/Marcobello Factor

Before the Olympic break, Twitter had Gagner going to the Kings but nothing came from it except getting angry at Kyle Clifford's name. At this point, there's no need to trade Gagner.  He's under contract for a couple more years and he would likely fetch more at the draft. Meanwhile, Marcobello has been lighting things up in OKC and it would seem like he's too good to be playing in the AHL at this point. Can he replace Gagner on the 2nd line? Has Marcobello done enough to make MacT think Gagner is expendable? I can't see it happening right now. In my uneducated opinion, it'll be Marcobello that gets traded today or neither. I think Marcobello deserves a chance in the NHL but I can't see it happening with the Oilers. 

  • baggedmilk's prediction:  Arcobello for a prospect we'll all have to Google after

The Trades

While you're pretending to work, be sure to keep refreshing this article as I'll be posting live updates of Oilers trades as they happen.  Until then, if you disagree with my trade predictions let me know. If you have a prediction of your own, feel free to share so we can all argue about it. Enjoy the trade deadline, friends - workplace productivity be damned.

  • 10:05am - Boston Bruins claims Corey Potter off waivers
  • 10:30am - Ales Hemsky to Ottawa for a 5th round pick (2014) and a 3rd round pick (2015)
  • 10:49am - Former Oiler, Devan Dubnyk has been traded to the Canadiens for future considerations... tough year for Dubnyk
  • 12:23pm - Nick Schultz to Columbus for a 5th round pick **Corrected** -thanks John Shannon

That's all for Oilers trades today. The countdown to the draft lottery begins. 

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#251 pkam
March 05 2014, 03:50PM
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HardBoiledOil wrote:

kinda makes the Oilers deal for Bryz seem like a rip off!

Can we also say that makes the trade for Scrivens like a steal?

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#252 pkam
March 05 2014, 03:59PM
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Blucifer Copperballs wrote:

Snow had to get Vanek out of NYI, and the Habs arent going to sell the farm for a player who will test free agency in the summer. No way Vanek changes his mind on that, not after all the hoopla this year. We'll be talking about his new team again in a few months. Habs gave up basically nothing to rent him, and NYI got something instead of nothing if they didnt move him. Win-Win.

Vanek is an UFA but so was Murray last season.

Moulson is also an UFA but Sabres got more from him than Islanders did from Vanek.

Are Murray and Moulson better players than Vanek? I don't think so. The only problem with Vanek is every GM knows he will not re-sign with Islanders so Snow must trade him for whatever he can get. While Murray and Moulson may re-sign with their teams if they are not traded.

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#253 Stamsky Hemkos
March 05 2014, 04:00PM
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Was reading this article summarizing all of Tambellini's moves during his tenure here as GM.

http://www.edmontonsun.com/2013/04/15/timeline-of-former-gm-steve-tambellinis-time-with-the-edmonton-oilers

I don't think he made one good trade. And here we now sit in 29th place...

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#254 Lofty
March 05 2014, 04:13PM
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1) Who cares if the oil eat 100% of Hemsky's salary. The only person that should have an issue with it should be D. Katz. The season is a wash for the organization and the contract is over in 4 months.

2) I question the gamble of Hemsky playing last night. Had he got hurt (again) they would have got nothing for him. I don't see last night increasing his value to where it was worth the gamble.

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#255 dougtheslug
March 05 2014, 04:15PM
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I wonder if some critics of MacT's moves think he was offered more and turned it down for less. The price for Hemsky was obviously what was paid. Nobody offered more. So what do you do? Take nothing and let him walk in June?

I think he is worth more than they got but so what. I liked him as a player, but he is part of a roster that has produced 4 lottery picks in 5 years. Face it, his production this year was very Marcel Goc like (26 vs 23 points, plus Goc is a useful faceoff man and kills penalties, and costs 1.7 mill vs 5 mill). Goc is actually more desirable, and the return on Hemsky was almost exactly the same.

We are living with the legacy of Tambo and KLowe. Hopefully, a time will come where we don't have to endure this stuff at the trade deadline anymore. It sucks.

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#256 T__Bone88
March 05 2014, 04:18PM
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It feels like the return on Hemsky was underwhelming but at the same time did any of the higher profile free agents go for drastically more? Not a single player got a 1st for this upcoming draft which is considered weak compared to other years. I think GM's now feel that paying big prices for pending FA's isn't the smart way to do busy. Today wasn't a day for the Oilers to make the big trade splash which I think some were expecting. The Oilers did fine in my mind getting something in return for expiring contracts and we will have to wait until the draft/free agency in which I'm sure MacT will do something more meaningful.

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#257 Harry
March 05 2014, 04:22PM
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There is a god!! Dont let the door hit you on the a$$ on the way oit Hemsky. FINALLY HES GONE!!

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#258 TDSM31
March 05 2014, 04:37PM
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The St.Louis situation today reminded me of how bad a GM Lowe was. He would let have his ego get in the way and would have gotten all vindictive with St.Louis and let him sit for nothing (ie comrie, lupul, pronger, souray, etc). Yzerman handled it like a pro and got great return for his team.

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#259 ThatButthurtOilersFan
March 05 2014, 04:39PM
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Eulers wrote:

The Islanders continue to trade from a house down to a paper clip. They should make a documentary!

Yeah, Snow might be worst than Tambellini.

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#260 admiralmark
March 05 2014, 04:40PM
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Lofty wrote:

1) Who cares if the oil eat 100% of Hemsky's salary. The only person that should have an issue with it should be D. Katz. The season is a wash for the organization and the contract is over in 4 months.

2) I question the gamble of Hemsky playing last night. Had he got hurt (again) they would have got nothing for him. I don't see last night increasing his value to where it was worth the gamble.

1) Agreed 2) Whoa whoa I have Hemsky in my hockeypool. The decision for him to play was a sound wise one.

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#261 Senator Theo
March 05 2014, 04:42PM
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TDSM31 wrote:

The St.Louis situation today reminded me of how bad a GM Lowe was. He would let have his ego get in the way and would have gotten all vindictive with St.Louis and let him sit for nothing (ie comrie, lupul, pronger, souray, etc). Yzerman handled it like a pro and got great return for his team.

Lowe wasn't even GM during the Souray situation. It seems odd to include him in that list.

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#262 TDSM31
March 05 2014, 04:42PM
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Harry wrote:

There is a god!! Dont let the door hit you on the a$$ on the way oit Hemsky. FINALLY HES GONE!!

May this receive many Trashes...

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#263 TDSM31
March 05 2014, 04:51PM
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Senator Theo wrote:

Lowe wasn't even GM during the Souray situation. It seems odd to include him in that list.

Okay, Lowe may not have been GM at the time but he was definitely the one leading the charge on how they handled Souray.

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#264 pkam
March 05 2014, 04:54PM
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TDSM31 wrote:

The St.Louis situation today reminded me of how bad a GM Lowe was. He would let have his ego get in the way and would have gotten all vindictive with St.Louis and let him sit for nothing (ie comrie, lupul, pronger, souray, etc). Yzerman handled it like a pro and got great return for his team.

How is the handling of Pronger and Lupul by Lowe different than the handling of MSL by Yzerman?

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#265 john
March 05 2014, 04:58PM
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oilfan in yyc wrote:

We're still paying 1/2 his salary and received two picks that have about a 25% chance of playing a game in the NHL between them. That isn't something, that is less than nothing. As I said would have been better to keep him the rest of the season and let him walk but apparently you can't read.

half his salary for 21 games (25% of season)$625k....not $2,5 million....keep him for what?

hes gone anyway at the end of the year....

with your logic, we keep him so we can maybe finish 28th instead of 29th?

Hey.....are you Tambellini?

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#266 Spydyr
March 05 2014, 05:02PM
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Sevenseven wrote:

Couldn't dump Jonesy, but hey, no big deal. Goaltending situation looks way better for next year than this year. Not a bad trade deadline for the oilers! Could be worse, we could be the Islanders! Lets hope the market for Gagner gets hotter this summer. Please play great down the stretch Gags, please play great down the stretch....

Let's hope he was another eight point night.

Then again he had one point in the last ten games last year.A second assist.I think the former is more likely.

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#267 pkam
March 05 2014, 05:02PM
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TDSM31 wrote:

Okay, Lowe may not have been GM at the time but he was definitely the one leading the charge on how they handled Souray.

Then blame Katz because he is the one leading the charge.

Remember when Oilers fans asked for MacT's head in 2009? It was Katz, not Lowe, came out to say that MacT was not going anywhere.

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#268 Time Travelling Sean
March 05 2014, 05:10PM
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Why the Sens? They just missed the play-offs last game. We should of traded him to Boston or Anaheim or somewhere like that.

Poor Hemmer :c

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#269 gk1980
March 05 2014, 05:24PM
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So, MacT is setting himself up for this summer, hopefully he is smart and build this team properly this summer. He has the room and the money. This might be the Oilers biggest summer yet. Even if they overpay, at this point. Just get our Suter and Parise. JUST DO IT! ITS NOT MY MONEY!

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#270 Spydyr
March 05 2014, 05:29PM
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gk1980 wrote:

So, MacT is setting himself up for this summer, hopefully he is smart and build this team properly this summer. He has the room and the money. This might be the Oilers biggest summer yet. Even if they overpay, at this point. Just get our Suter and Parise. JUST DO IT! ITS NOT MY MONEY!

Have you ever gone to a game or brought Oiler merchandise?

Then it is you money . As crappy as this team has been Katz is still making money.Our money well not mine I have boycotted all things Oilier.

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#271 DarkLinkCosplay
March 05 2014, 05:35PM
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Stamsky Hemkos wrote:

Was reading this article summarizing all of Tambellini's moves during his tenure here as GM.

http://www.edmontonsun.com/2013/04/15/timeline-of-former-gm-steve-tambellinis-time-with-the-edmonton-oilers

I don't think he made one good trade. And here we now sit in 29th place...

To be fair, I don't think the Penner trade was too bad. Considering how 3 years later he only fetched a 4th rounder...

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#272 tabs
March 05 2014, 06:01PM
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chris wrote:

Ganger is an awful player. lazy, dosen't backcheck, follows the puck in the defencive, and always out of position, not to mention He never throws a hit and is week on the puck, and sucks in the faceoff. He is worth nothing and we should glady give the space he takes up on the bench to a warm body that can throw a hit. ganger trade for omarks cup and a bag of pucks. nothing less

In October I stated Gags was worth a 2nd round pick and got called all kinds of things. One of the writers here went as far as booting me from the site for writing that.

Today Gags is worth almost nothing on the market.

This same writer believed last week that Smyth was worth the 21st pick and up in the 2014 draft. I stated then this line of thinking was insanity -

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#273 Smokey
March 05 2014, 06:56PM
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Lofty wrote:

1) Who cares if the oil eat 100% of Hemsky's salary. The only person that should have an issue with it should be D. Katz. The season is a wash for the organization and the contract is over in 4 months.

2) I question the gamble of Hemsky playing last night. Had he got hurt (again) they would have got nothing for him. I don't see last night increasing his value to where it was worth the gamble.

They got nothing...who cares if he got hurt, other then for Ales' sake. He was worth a second or not at all. Great asset management.

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#274 Smokey
March 05 2014, 06:58PM
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DarkLinkCosplay wrote:

To be fair, I don't think the Penner trade was too bad. Considering how 3 years later he only fetched a 4th rounder...

Had term left, he was not a rental and 30 plus when he was traded to LA. Different Senario

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#275 Harry
March 05 2014, 06:58PM
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TDSM31 wrote:

May this receive many Trashes...

Ya cause a 70 point season and a career high of 25 goals in what seems like 100 years ago is sometging to celebrate. Though he wasnt soft he was lazy and a textbook under achiever.

Good riddance!!!!!

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#276 Don W
March 05 2014, 07:10PM
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TDSM31 wrote:

The St.Louis situation today reminded me of how bad a GM Lowe was. He would let have his ego get in the way and would have gotten all vindictive with St.Louis and let him sit for nothing (ie comrie, lupul, pronger, souray, etc). Yzerman handled it like a pro and got great return for his team.

Actually they did pretty good on the Pronger trade when you look at what they got. Considering the circumstances it was a very good trade. I think Souray had everything to do about Tambellini and nothing to do with Lowe. Comrie was a gong show on Lowe and Lupul I can't remember what they got for him so I don't know. I get that you don't like Lowe but saying Yzerman did great is only true if they resign Callahan. If they don't I would never make that trade.

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#277 TDSM31
March 05 2014, 07:40PM
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Don W wrote:

Actually they did pretty good on the Pronger trade when you look at what they got. Considering the circumstances it was a very good trade. I think Souray had everything to do about Tambellini and nothing to do with Lowe. Comrie was a gong show on Lowe and Lupul I can't remember what they got for him so I don't know. I get that you don't like Lowe but saying Yzerman did great is only true if they resign Callahan. If they don't I would never make that trade.

Even if Callahan doesn't sign Yzerman has a first and second rounder (possibly two first rounders if NY goes to conference final) for a soon to be 39 year old. Not to mention that he will have over $5MM freed up. Tampa won that trade.

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#278 Oilcruzer
March 05 2014, 09:39PM
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Spydyr wrote:

They must of put the Oilers "Braintrust" in charge of Shaw today.

(Grammar police enters)

"...must have... ...must... ...HAVE...!!!"

(Grammar police exits)

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#279 Oilcruzer
March 05 2014, 10:13PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

Here we are 5 yrs into this rebuild. Can anyone claim without any doubt, management has this club better off than they were 5 yrs ago?

Really only 5 or 6 players to claim they're building around. Trusting a rookie GM and rookie coach has them walking blindly in the desert. Things appear to be getting worse with the Oilers being out of it 1/4 the way through this seasons schedule.

QS, that's a misdirection play. At the moment, no. But in 2007, the team had zero assets in development and aging veterans. Hell, no farm team even for one year. They tried to bait and switch and then made some questionable moves w Green and Stoll and if I recall, still were riding the "JFJ has all the tools and he's going to turn the corner" bandwagon.

Not a great FA destination with no future. There were zero options. *Boom*

So, no, today's team isn't better. And Tambo wasn't helping.

With MacT at the helm, and he hasn't been on for a year yet, he has made 11 of the 58 trades for the year. He's been involved in ONE in FIVE trades in the league. Plus spun gold for free... A draft pick for free for simply signing Bryz on a trial. That allowed him to close the book on the Dubnyk project.

The team is poised to be better, and has assets to react to aging. No one is going to trade you their best player, unless they are UFA or disgruntled like Marty St Looo"Waaaaah!"

So you fill your bottom two lines with everyone's throw offs while you develop your Pitlicks.

You trade your developed extra assets with a draft choice for quality players like Perron. You get a house full of goalies, including a 20 yr old stud for a few years from now for next to nothing because no team can sell an untried current #3 for much.

You thank a number 83 for still sticking with it for a couple more years and give the fans at least something to cheer for while the building continues.

You move unmovable assets who have no role and are overpaid and accept what you can get, hoping you don't have to eat salary.

You thank God that Clarkson didn't choose to come over for what would have been an awful decision.

You learn as a GM you won't win on every signing or trade, but don't make major mistakes on the bad signings.

And... You suck it up when forums blast you for not creating a Stanley Cup Playoff entry within 5 years of blowing up and starting a new path to correct the mistakes from 1990 thru 2009.

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#280 Zarf
March 06 2014, 09:57AM
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I'm trying to figure out why it's a big deal that the Oilers have been asked to eat part of the remainder of Hemsky's salary.

If there are 20 games left in the season ... that's a quarter of the season. A quarter of $5 million is, like $1.25 million. If the Oilers are on the hook for half of that, it's $600,000. Chicken feed nowadays. Certainly not onerous ... and certainly not worth holding up as evidence that MacT got fleeced.

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#281 BobbyCanuck
March 06 2014, 10:34AM
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Spydyr wrote:

Have you ever gone to a game or brought Oiler merchandise?

Then it is you money . As crappy as this team has been Katz is still making money.Our money well not mine I have boycotted all things Oilier.

I did not boycott per say. I stll have an Oiler coffe mug from Avon, but that is about it.

Last game I paid my own money for was Wayne's last game back when he was with the Kings.

Wayne got his typical goal, the type when he dikes out most of the team, and scores all by himself, and Kurri got his typical one-timer goal, and Oilers won the game...good times good times

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#282 BobbyCanuck
March 06 2014, 11:01AM
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@Blucifer Copperballs

You are basing your thoughts on what is known as a moral compass, whereby you do the right thing for someone that you respect. You make an ethical decison based on game theory: we both win, or I win you lose. or you win and I lose, or we both lose. With both winning being the best.

Pointed out many times, that 3-5th rounders rarely turn into 11 yr NHL veterans.

SO we both lose, Edm gets a two picks that may turn to nothing, Hemsky's team misses the pplay-offs by 2 points. Should have traded him to Pitts for future considerations.

Oiler mgmt has proven over the years, that so called compass has been misplaced, and they really don't care to spend the time to look for it.

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#283 BobbyCanuck
March 06 2014, 11:11AM
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pkam wrote:

I couldn't believe when I read the Flames traded Reto Berra to Avs for a 2nd rounder in 2014.

A 2nd rounder for a 27 year old UFA goalie who has only played 29 NHL games with a 0.897 SV% and 2.95 GA? What are the Avs thinking?

What were they thinking?

They were thinking that they had better trust the opinion of thier pro/junior scouts, I think it has worked out fairly well for the Avs so far, don't you?

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#284 Ed in Edmonton
March 06 2014, 12:46PM
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BobbyCanuck wrote:

You are basing your thoughts on what is known as a moral compass, whereby you do the right thing for someone that you respect. You make an ethical decison based on game theory: we both win, or I win you lose. or you win and I lose, or we both lose. With both winning being the best.

Pointed out many times, that 3-5th rounders rarely turn into 11 yr NHL veterans.

SO we both lose, Edm gets a two picks that may turn to nothing, Hemsky's team misses the pplay-offs by 2 points. Should have traded him to Pitts for future considerations.

Oiler mgmt has proven over the years, that so called compass has been misplaced, and they really don't care to spend the time to look for it.

Are you Hemsky's brother?

The Oil did not have an obligation of any sort to ensure Hemsky moved to a cup contender. If Buffalo had offered as much as Ottawa he should have been moved there.

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