Baggedmilk Live Blogs the Trade Deadline ***UPDATED***

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March 05 2014 08:19AM

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It looks like my first order of business at the Nation is to sit on my ass and watch TV for the day. Life is good. Which Oilers will be traded? How many 4th round picks will we collect? No one knows for sure, but I'm "excited" to find out.

What's Happened So Far

Yesterday, MacT took care of the goaltending part of his to do list with a couple of trades. After only 4 months, #BryzNation is no more. Our favourite Russian Space Lord was traded to the Wild for a 4th round pick and I wish him well unless he is playing against the Oilers. MacT followed up the Bryzgalov trade by scoring Viktor Fasth for a 5th rounder in 2014 and a 3rd rounder in 2015.

Fasth still has another year left on his contract at $2.9 million and should make for a solid running mate with our beloved Ben Scrivens. It'll be interesting to see how they battle for ice time down the stretch. WHO COULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT THE OILERS WOULD HAVE BETTER GOALTENDING THAN THE CANUCKS WHEN YESTERDAY STARTED?!!? One thing is for sure, Vancouver sucks at goalies.

Anyway...

The Likely Candidates

As much as it sucks to say it, Ales Hemsky will likely not be an Oiler when the day is done. I never understood why some people dislike Hemsky so much. He's been a warrior for the Oilers, has played hurt, and was often the best player on a team full of clowns.  The return for Hemsky is likely definitely going to be disappointing and I'll even go so far as to predict a Twitter meltdown when the trade goes down. He scored a beauty goal last night and it bums me out to think about him on another team.

  • baggedmilk's prediction: Ales Hemsky for a 2nd and a 3rd round pick

I'd also be willing to bet Wanye's lunch money that Ryan Smyth will be leaving town again. For Smytty's sake, I hope MacT sends him to a contender for a chance to win the Cup. Personally, I'd like to see him re-signed for another year and finish where he started, but the guy deserves a chance to win. If anyone is down to go cry at the airport with me, just hit me up on Twitter.

  • baggedmilk's prediction: Ryan Smyth for a 4th round pick and my tears

Next up on your ol' pal BM's chopping block is Nick Schultz. The thing that bums me out about trading Nick Schultz is the fact that the Tom Gilbert trade will likely end up as a late round pick. At the time, lots of people were really into the Gilbert trade (I was too) but now it seems like it was all for nothing. Gilbert is having a solid year #FancyStats-wise in Florida (Jonathan Willis, Lowetide, Tyler Dellow etc. can explain) and now it seems like Nick Schultz will be traded for any asset MacT can grab. Seems like a Tambo trade lost, no?

  • baggedmilk's prediction: Nick Schultz for a 6th round pick

Last of my likely moves is another favourite of mine, Ryan Jones.  Jonesy hasn't been the same guy since the eye injury but I'll always love the man with the flow. He gave a lot of effort with not as much skill and he used his carcass to score some goals in his time here. Lots of stats guys disliked him, but luckily I don't know how to math - my guess is that we say so long to the flow today.

  • baggedmilk's prediction: Jonesy for a low pick


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The Gagner/Marcobello Factor

Before the Olympic break, Twitter had Gagner going to the Kings but nothing came from it except getting angry at Kyle Clifford's name. At this point, there's no need to trade Gagner.  He's under contract for a couple more years and he would likely fetch more at the draft. Meanwhile, Marcobello has been lighting things up in OKC and it would seem like he's too good to be playing in the AHL at this point. Can he replace Gagner on the 2nd line? Has Marcobello done enough to make MacT think Gagner is expendable? I can't see it happening right now. In my uneducated opinion, it'll be Marcobello that gets traded today or neither. I think Marcobello deserves a chance in the NHL but I can't see it happening with the Oilers. 

  • baggedmilk's prediction:  Arcobello for a prospect we'll all have to Google after

The Trades

While you're pretending to work, be sure to keep refreshing this article as I'll be posting live updates of Oilers trades as they happen.  Until then, if you disagree with my trade predictions let me know. If you have a prediction of your own, feel free to share so we can all argue about it. Enjoy the trade deadline, friends - workplace productivity be damned.

  • 10:05am - Boston Bruins claims Corey Potter off waivers
  • 10:30am - Ales Hemsky to Ottawa for a 5th round pick (2014) and a 3rd round pick (2015)
  • 10:49am - Former Oiler, Devan Dubnyk has been traded to the Canadiens for future considerations... tough year for Dubnyk
  • 12:23pm - Nick Schultz to Columbus for a 5th round pick **Corrected** -thanks John Shannon

That's all for Oilers trades today. The countdown to the draft lottery begins. 

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#51 Bonvie
March 05 2014, 09:56AM
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They're $hittie wrote:

I like Colin Wilson and want him, but he is not a top 6 winger on oilers, Hall, Yak, Eberle, Perron ahead of him.

As for top 6 at center, if Gagner goes the other way yes if not based on point production Gagner may still be the second line center.

But I would like Wilson here for sure.

The whole point of that trade would be to alter the makeup of that top six, its obvious watching them all season that sometthing needs to change. Oilers need somebody that can play on the wall in all three zones, and drive a large body toward the net, and at center we could also use the size. Wilson is definitely top 6 and I believe adding his skill set or one similar will add offence to the whole group.

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#52 Cody anderson
March 05 2014, 09:56AM
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Great job by Stevie Y. He gave up the best player in the trade, but he is 38. Apparently St. Louis had requested a trade after his Olympic snub.

If you can get a useful younger player, a 1st in a deep draft, and a 2nd this year for an unhappy 38 yr old UFA, I would say you are doing pretty damn good job!

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#53 Zarny
March 05 2014, 09:58AM
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Spydyr wrote:

With newly-acquired netminder Viktor Fasth not scheduled to arrive until later this afternoon, Olympic gold medal-winning Team Canada goalie and Edmonton native Shannon Szabados will practice with the ‪#‎Oilers‬ this morning.

I like that.

It's a good PR move but keep in mind the Canadian Olympic women's team basically went 0.500 against Midget teams.

It's a huge chasm between the women's Olympic team and the NHL. If Szabados ever had to play it would not be pretty.

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#54 Spydyr
March 05 2014, 09:59AM
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Zarny wrote:

It was always going to take until the trade deadline to start moving forward. The big deals won't be until the draft or the summer.

That's just how it goes.

There has been seven trade deadlines since the last time the team played a playoff game.The team finally seems to be making moves to get better.Outside of high draft picks.That was what I was eluding too.

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#55 John Chambers
March 05 2014, 10:00AM
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Cody anderson wrote:

Great job by Stevie Y. He gave up the best player in the trade, but he is 38. Apparently St. Louis had requested a trade after his Olympic snub.

If you can get a useful younger player, a 1st in a deep draft, and a 2nd this year for an unhappy 38 yr old UFA, I would say you are doing pretty damn good job!

Tampa's cap flexibility is also amazing. They have a quality goaltender signed for peanuts, and Drouin about to start his ELC.

Add the fact they have two first rounders in a deep draft and this team is poised to be very good for quite some time.

Stevie Y knows what he's doing.

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#56 Spydyr
March 05 2014, 10:00AM
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Zarny wrote:

It's a good PR move but keep in mind the Canadian Olympic women's team basically went 0.500 against Midget teams.

It's a huge chasm between the women's Olympic team and the NHL. If Szabados ever had to play it would not be pretty.

Thanks for pointing out the obvious.

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#57 Bonvie
March 05 2014, 10:05AM
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@Spydyr

Conacher got picked up by buffalo off waivers.

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#58 Fresh Mess
March 05 2014, 10:07AM
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Potter claimed by Boston.

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#59 Zarny
March 05 2014, 10:08AM
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Spydyr wrote:

There has been seven trade deadlines since the last time the team played a playoff game.The team finally seems to be making moves to get better.Outside of high draft picks.That was what I was eluding too.

Gotcha.

Tambo certainly was afflicted by a case of the dithers.

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#60 Rama Lama
March 05 2014, 10:08AM
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Spydyr wrote:

Sure but I don't think Hemsky is interested in signing here.

That's our own doing...........we have been trying to trade this guy for the past 5 years.

Tambo had a deal in place last year, ( when he should have been traded) but could not find his tiny mouse balls, to actually pull off the trade.

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#61 Zarny
March 05 2014, 10:09AM
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Spydyr wrote:

Thanks for pointing out the obvious.

If it's obvious why on earth would the Oilers actually dress her?

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#62 Fresh Mess
March 05 2014, 10:10AM
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Phillips signs in OTT for 2 years

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#63 Wanye
March 05 2014, 10:15AM
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WHAT IN THE SWEET HOLY HELL??? YOU WORK HERE NOW TOO??

*skips around in utter glee*

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#64 Oilerz4life
March 05 2014, 10:15AM
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Sad to think the Oilers have pooled all this talent and now have to give it away for magic beans. When are we going to see this $#!+ show get their act together and start to put a winning team together. Same old story. For all we know bold moves won't be able to score any defense in the offseason and we'll be worse off again next year. This rebuild sucks. It really, really sucks.

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#65 Tikkanese
March 05 2014, 10:15AM
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Fresh Mess wrote:

Potter claimed by Boston.

Miracle! 23 teams passed on Potter for free. No idea how some on here thought they could trade him. I'm surprised he even got picked up on waivers.

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#66 Bonvie
March 05 2014, 10:19AM
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Tikkanese wrote:

Miracle! 23 teams passed on Potter for free. No idea how some on here thought they could trade him. I'm surprised he even got picked up on waivers.

Very good pickup for Boston!!! Hemsky to Ottawa is the report.

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#67 Fresh Mess
March 05 2014, 10:20AM
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Hemsky to Ottawa for picks

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#68 Czar
March 05 2014, 10:23AM
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Fresh Mess wrote:

Hemsky to Ottawa for picks

He is a Senator now.

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#69 Fresh Mess
March 05 2014, 10:24AM
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3 rd and 5th for Hemsky

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#70 jl
March 05 2014, 10:26AM
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@Fresh Mess

ahhahahaaa, coiler fans were saying late 1st after that performance, ahahahahah

you guys are beyond sucking.

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#71 Fresh Mess
March 05 2014, 10:26AM
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MacLooselips recovers the Fasth picks.

This will be a reality slap upside the head for the ON delusionals who thought Hemsky was worth a first.

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#72 Fresh Mess
March 05 2014, 10:27AM
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LOL !! AND the Oilers had to retain salary.. LOl

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#73 Bonvie
March 05 2014, 10:29AM
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Fresh Mess wrote:

MacLooselips recovers the Fasth picks.

This will be a reality slap upside the head for the ON delusionals who thought Hemsky was worth a first.

Well the only saving grace is they are trading him to a bad team vs a good team like Pittsburg, so this pick at 3 isn't much different than Pittsburgh' second.

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#74 bumblebpete
March 05 2014, 10:31AM
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Czar wrote:

He is a Senator now.

Hate to see Hemsky go, but I'm glad he went to Ottawa. I believe that's where he wanted to be, since he played Junior in Hull.

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#75 dougie79
March 05 2014, 10:32AM
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How can the Senators ever expect to win with Eugene "Thrifty" Melnyk at the helm? Ottawa is way below the cap and they still need the Oilers to retain some of Hemsky's contract. Must be Peter Pocklington version 2.0.

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#76 Oilers21
March 05 2014, 10:32AM
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Unless I'm missing something, we just basically gave Hemsky away. Not even a SECOND rounder??

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#78 oilerjed
March 05 2014, 10:34AM
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Fresh Mess wrote:

LOL !! AND the Oilers had to retain salary.. LOl

How Much?

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#80 oilerjed
March 05 2014, 10:34AM
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Good bye Hemmer! You put up with a lot of S!$t and NEVER complained. Good Luck.

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#81 They're $hittie
March 05 2014, 10:34AM
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Bonvie wrote:

The whole point of that trade would be to alter the makeup of that top six, its obvious watching them all season that sometthing needs to change. Oilers need somebody that can play on the wall in all three zones, and drive a large body toward the net, and at center we could also use the size. Wilson is definitely top 6 and I believe adding his skill set or one similar will add offence to the whole group.

I agree with what your saying but they aint moving a top 6 winger for Wilson. The RW have way more value than that and another winger isnt what we need. Perron is a different player than the other three so he is likely staying also. That means Wilson would be number 5 winger on the team. Yes he can play top 6. But the way Eakins has been deploying his team Wilson would be on the third line.

As for a number two center, If gagner were gone than yes Wilson would be there. If not it is more likely Wilson would be used on third line wing and fill in for extra depth on center when needed.

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#82 Fresh Mess
March 05 2014, 10:35AM
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dougie79 wrote:

How can the Senators ever expect to win with Eugene "Thrifty" Melnyk at the helm? Ottawa is way below the cap and they still need the Oilers to retain some of Hemsky's contract. Must be Peter Pocklington version 2.0.

It's called good fiscal management. An alien concept to the Oilers.

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#83 Fresh Mess
March 05 2014, 10:35AM
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oilerjed wrote:

How Much?

Half

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#84 oilerjed
March 05 2014, 10:38AM
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@Fresh Mess

Meh. Money was already spent anyways.

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#85 Lochenzo
March 05 2014, 10:39AM
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Return for Hemsky feels cheap. Good point about Hemsky playing junior in Hull/Gatineau. An accomodation? I don't mind that much if it is. Hemsky has done everything asked of him this year.

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#86 Gored 1970
March 05 2014, 10:40AM
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A player is worth only as much as another team is willing to pay. Obviously Hemsky's value wasn't close to what Oiler fans expected. Ottawa got him for a 3rd and a 5th pick which is just one up from a bag of pucks.

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#87 junior
March 05 2014, 10:40AM
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Oilers21 wrote:

Unless I'm missing something, we just basically gave Hemsky away. Not even a SECOND rounder??

Yup, your missing a realistic sense of what the market would pay for an overpaid twenty game rental.

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#88 vetinari
March 05 2014, 10:42AM
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Hemsky's remaining salary is couch change to Katz and we would have lost him for nothing at the end of the season anyways... the picks replace what we gave up for Fasth and if you ask me, I would have traded Hemsky straight up for Fasth ...

Not a great deal but:

3rd + 5th > 19 games of Hemsky

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#89 Oilerfan
March 05 2014, 10:42AM
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Alice for cr@ppy picks. Sounds about right. Cold splash of water, Oiler fan.

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#90 Zamboni Driver
March 05 2014, 10:42AM
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@Zarny

Also there's no Santa Claus.

Good god. are you SURE it would be a gong show?

Do you have the stats?

It's a fun thing. Get over yourself.

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#91 Mike Krushelnyski
March 05 2014, 10:43AM
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Who cares if Katz eats some of Hemsky's salary? He owes us anyways.

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#92 pkam
March 05 2014, 10:44AM
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Oilers21 wrote:

Unless I'm missing something, we just basically gave Hemsky away. Not even a SECOND rounder??

When MacT publicly announced that we needed to part with Horcoff and Hemsky when he took over the GM, he pretty much put himself into the corner by eliminating any chance for Hemsky to re-sign with us. So he must get something, anything, before this trade deadline. A 3rd and a 5th is better than nothing.

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#93 Oilers21
March 05 2014, 10:46AM
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junior wrote:

Yup, your missing a realistic sense of what the market would pay for an overpaid twenty game rental.

I guess so. It just seems like we're the only team (other than Vancouver) that actually has to settle for "fair market value". Paul Gaustad got a first rounder, for example. We gave away the exact same picks for an unproven 31 year old goaltender who's hurt and whose salary goes up to 3.4 next year

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#94 oilerjed
March 05 2014, 10:46AM
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vetinari wrote:

Hemsky's remaining salary is couch change to Katz and we would have lost him for nothing at the end of the season anyways... the picks replace what we gave up for Fasth and if you ask me, I would have traded Hemsky straight up for Fasth ...

Not a great deal but:

3rd + 5th > 19 games of Hemsky

Nice way of looking at it. Backdoor 3 way deal? Maybe in 2 years we are bowing down to MacT or maybe not.

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#95 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
March 05 2014, 10:47AM
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vetinari wrote:

Hemsky's remaining salary is couch change to Katz and we would have lost him for nothing at the end of the season anyways... the picks replace what we gave up for Fasth and if you ask me, I would have traded Hemsky straight up for Fasth ...

Not a great deal but:

3rd + 5th > 19 games of Hemsky

Really good point Ventinari......Hemsky as a rental for Fasth signed for another year...and Ales gets to go to a good destination as a reward for being a great Oiler.......makes the whole thing more palatable.....

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#96 Czar
March 05 2014, 10:47AM
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bumblebpete wrote:

Hate to see Hemsky go, but I'm glad he went to Ottawa. I believe that's where he wanted to be, since he played Junior in Hull.

I agree dude and it won't be hard to cheer for him in Ottawa.

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#97 Will
March 05 2014, 10:48AM
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For the Hemsky trade, I can imagine there was a compromise between what Mac T could get, and where Hemsky wanted to go.

I think he could have gotten more somewhere else, but Hemsky likely didn't want to go there. Where as Mac T might have gotten offered less by say the Burgh. So this feels like middle ground since it's likely Hemsky will want to resign with the Senators after the season is over.

It would have been nice to have gotten more, but I think this is a classy move on the part of management.

I'm glad I was there last night to watch his last performance as an Oiler.

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#98 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
March 05 2014, 10:50AM
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Dubnyk's A Hab!

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#99 Druds
March 05 2014, 10:51AM
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Penney went for a 4th rounder so Jenner is slightly better and gets a 3rd so it seems about right. Anyone who wanted more is smokin Colorado cigarettes

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#100 Zarny
March 05 2014, 10:51AM
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Dubnyk to Mtl.

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