Baggedmilk Live Blogs the Trade Deadline ***UPDATED***

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March 05 2014 08:19AM

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It looks like my first order of business at the Nation is to sit on my ass and watch TV for the day. Life is good. Which Oilers will be traded? How many 4th round picks will we collect? No one knows for sure, but I'm "excited" to find out.

What's Happened So Far

Yesterday, MacT took care of the goaltending part of his to do list with a couple of trades. After only 4 months, #BryzNation is no more. Our favourite Russian Space Lord was traded to the Wild for a 4th round pick and I wish him well unless he is playing against the Oilers. MacT followed up the Bryzgalov trade by scoring Viktor Fasth for a 5th rounder in 2014 and a 3rd rounder in 2015.

Fasth still has another year left on his contract at $2.9 million and should make for a solid running mate with our beloved Ben Scrivens. It'll be interesting to see how they battle for ice time down the stretch. WHO COULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT THE OILERS WOULD HAVE BETTER GOALTENDING THAN THE CANUCKS WHEN YESTERDAY STARTED?!!? One thing is for sure, Vancouver sucks at goalies.

Anyway...

The Likely Candidates

As much as it sucks to say it, Ales Hemsky will likely not be an Oiler when the day is done. I never understood why some people dislike Hemsky so much. He's been a warrior for the Oilers, has played hurt, and was often the best player on a team full of clowns.  The return for Hemsky is likely definitely going to be disappointing and I'll even go so far as to predict a Twitter meltdown when the trade goes down. He scored a beauty goal last night and it bums me out to think about him on another team.

  • baggedmilk's prediction: Ales Hemsky for a 2nd and a 3rd round pick

I'd also be willing to bet Wanye's lunch money that Ryan Smyth will be leaving town again. For Smytty's sake, I hope MacT sends him to a contender for a chance to win the Cup. Personally, I'd like to see him re-signed for another year and finish where he started, but the guy deserves a chance to win. If anyone is down to go cry at the airport with me, just hit me up on Twitter.

  • baggedmilk's prediction: Ryan Smyth for a 4th round pick and my tears

Next up on your ol' pal BM's chopping block is Nick Schultz. The thing that bums me out about trading Nick Schultz is the fact that the Tom Gilbert trade will likely end up as a late round pick. At the time, lots of people were really into the Gilbert trade (I was too) but now it seems like it was all for nothing. Gilbert is having a solid year #FancyStats-wise in Florida (Jonathan Willis, Lowetide, Tyler Dellow etc. can explain) and now it seems like Nick Schultz will be traded for any asset MacT can grab. Seems like a Tambo trade lost, no?

  • baggedmilk's prediction: Nick Schultz for a 6th round pick

Last of my likely moves is another favourite of mine, Ryan Jones.  Jonesy hasn't been the same guy since the eye injury but I'll always love the man with the flow. He gave a lot of effort with not as much skill and he used his carcass to score some goals in his time here. Lots of stats guys disliked him, but luckily I don't know how to math - my guess is that we say so long to the flow today.

  • baggedmilk's prediction: Jonesy for a low pick


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The Gagner/Marcobello Factor

Before the Olympic break, Twitter had Gagner going to the Kings but nothing came from it except getting angry at Kyle Clifford's name. At this point, there's no need to trade Gagner.  He's under contract for a couple more years and he would likely fetch more at the draft. Meanwhile, Marcobello has been lighting things up in OKC and it would seem like he's too good to be playing in the AHL at this point. Can he replace Gagner on the 2nd line? Has Marcobello done enough to make MacT think Gagner is expendable? I can't see it happening right now. In my uneducated opinion, it'll be Marcobello that gets traded today or neither. I think Marcobello deserves a chance in the NHL but I can't see it happening with the Oilers. 

  • baggedmilk's prediction:  Arcobello for a prospect we'll all have to Google after

The Trades

While you're pretending to work, be sure to keep refreshing this article as I'll be posting live updates of Oilers trades as they happen.  Until then, if you disagree with my trade predictions let me know. If you have a prediction of your own, feel free to share so we can all argue about it. Enjoy the trade deadline, friends - workplace productivity be damned.

  • 10:05am - Boston Bruins claims Corey Potter off waivers
  • 10:30am - Ales Hemsky to Ottawa for a 5th round pick (2014) and a 3rd round pick (2015)
  • 10:49am - Former Oiler, Devan Dubnyk has been traded to the Canadiens for future considerations... tough year for Dubnyk
  • 12:23pm - Nick Schultz to Columbus for a 5th round pick **Corrected** -thanks John Shannon

That's all for Oilers trades today. The countdown to the draft lottery begins. 

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#51 dougtheslug
March 05 2014, 02:07PM
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Bonvie wrote:

The market just wasnt there this year. Last year the market for veterans, pending UFA's was huge, unfortunately our GM was asleep at the wheel, he actually acquired a non-NHL player in Smithson for a 4th pick. If you assess that trade bases on today's values you have to scratch your head and wonder if Tambellina already knew he was fired and was seeking payback.

Yeah, its really hard to believe Oilers get a fifth and a third for a useful player like Hemsky, and last year gave up a fourth for a nonentity like Smithson.

I see @FakeOilersGM is starting the rumour that Gillis is really Tambo in disguise. But I think its a tossup which GM did the most damage to their franchise.

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#52 still hoping
March 05 2014, 10:53AM
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So Hemsky goes for a 3rd and 5th rounder.

What does Ganger go for? Not much based on above.

This just shows us how bad our brain trust in Edmonton is all these years with Lowe in charge.

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#53 james_dean
March 05 2014, 11:13AM
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Gillis is doing a great job. I hope they extend him. Very solid moves. Cant wait to see what he gets for kesler!

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#54 Sevenseven
March 05 2014, 02:53PM
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Couldn't dump Jonesy, but hey, no big deal. Goaltending situation looks way better for next year than this year. Not a bad trade deadline for the oilers! Could be worse, we could be the Islanders! Lets hope the market for Gagner gets hotter this summer. Please play great down the stretch Gags, please play great down the stretch....

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#55 Spydyr
March 05 2014, 10:00AM
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Zarny wrote:

It's a good PR move but keep in mind the Canadian Olympic women's team basically went 0.500 against Midget teams.

It's a huge chasm between the women's Olympic team and the NHL. If Szabados ever had to play it would not be pretty.

Thanks for pointing out the obvious.

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#56 oilerjed
March 05 2014, 10:38AM
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@Fresh Mess

Meh. Money was already spent anyways.

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#57 Jakester
March 05 2014, 01:47PM
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lets bring back ulanov?

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#58 Eulers
March 05 2014, 02:22PM
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Maybe the NHL should just put a desk for the Buffalo Sabres on stage for the 2014 draft? That or the Sabres GM is going to hit his Fitbit goals that day!!

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#59 D'oh-ilers
March 05 2014, 03:24PM
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Nothing too surprising from the Oilers today. The return for Hemsky was underwhelming, but he's also been stuck on the 3rd line the past few years, which hurts his value.

MacT wasn't kidding when he said he was impatient. Since being hired, he's flushed Horcoff, MPS, Smid, Brown, Labarbera, Dubnyk, Hartikainen, Bryzgalov, N. Schultz, Potter, Omark, Hemsky, Whitney, Danis, Khabibulin, Belanger, Plante, Peckham, Petrell, Fistric & VandeVelde. That's 21 players who've suited up for the Oil in the past year, not to mention Krueger. Good grief.

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#60 Stamsky Hemkos
March 05 2014, 04:00PM
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Was reading this article summarizing all of Tambellini's moves during his tenure here as GM.

http://www.edmontonsun.com/2013/04/15/timeline-of-former-gm-steve-tambellinis-time-with-the-edmonton-oilers

I don't think he made one good trade. And here we now sit in 29th place...

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#61 Spydyr
March 05 2014, 05:29PM
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gk1980 wrote:

So, MacT is setting himself up for this summer, hopefully he is smart and build this team properly this summer. He has the room and the money. This might be the Oilers biggest summer yet. Even if they overpay, at this point. Just get our Suter and Parise. JUST DO IT! ITS NOT MY MONEY!

Have you ever gone to a game or brought Oiler merchandise?

Then it is you money . As crappy as this team has been Katz is still making money.Our money well not mine I have boycotted all things Oilier.

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#62 Oilerz4life
March 05 2014, 10:15AM
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Sad to think the Oilers have pooled all this talent and now have to give it away for magic beans. When are we going to see this $#!+ show get their act together and start to put a winning team together. Same old story. For all we know bold moves won't be able to score any defense in the offseason and we'll be worse off again next year. This rebuild sucks. It really, really sucks.

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#63 Fresh Mess
March 05 2014, 10:35AM
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dougie79 wrote:

How can the Senators ever expect to win with Eugene "Thrifty" Melnyk at the helm? Ottawa is way below the cap and they still need the Oilers to retain some of Hemsky's contract. Must be Peter Pocklington version 2.0.

It's called good fiscal management. An alien concept to the Oilers.

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#64 Lochenzo
March 05 2014, 10:55AM
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There was a conversation between MacT and Hemsky this summer after we couldn't trade him. Hemsky agreed to do whatever was asked of him this year. Maybe discussing with Hemsky where he would want to play when the trade offers came in was part of their verbal agreement? MacT and Hemmer go way back.

Or maybe Mark Spector was actually right when he said Hemsky was only worth a 3rd.

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#65 Vinotintazo
March 05 2014, 11:46AM
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I hope hemsky has another great game tonight agains the flames :)

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#66 Soccer Steve
March 05 2014, 01:02PM
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Guys, at least we aren't the Islanders. They way they're run, they make us look like the Red Wings.

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#67 Bonvie
March 05 2014, 01:54PM
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Fauxrumors wrote:

BOLD MOVES BABY! Stealing those 5th round picks away from the other teams...pretty crafty MacT. Everyone knows the best place to start building a contender is in the 5th round! And taking 50% of Hemmer's salary in that deal...really snuck one by your counterpart on that one! And turned the world upside down in the goaltending department...you successfully managed to have 3 goalies with a total of 70 NHL games under their belt. Man you are crafty! Way to build not only a contender...but I am thinking DYNASTY here!

The market just wasnt there this year. Last year the market for veterans, pending UFA's was huge, unfortunately our GM was asleep at the wheel, he actually acquired a non-NHL player in Smithson for a 4th pick. If you assess that trade bases on today's values you have to scratch your head and wonder if Tambellina already knew he was fired and was seeking payback.

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#68 YEGFan
March 05 2014, 02:52PM
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I think the GMs of the league (especially in Minnesota) will quickly come to regret their over valuing of Moulson and under valuing of Hemsky.

I'm glad it will be to Ottawa's benefit and a team in our division's downfall.

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#69 Jeffff
March 05 2014, 03:20PM
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Pretty funny MacT explaining the demand increase for Hemsky after last nights game.

Note to MacT you got a 3rd and 5th rounder and you had to eat half his salary.

Huge demand. What a bunch of PR Bull

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#70 pkam
March 05 2014, 04:54PM
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TDSM31 wrote:

The St.Louis situation today reminded me of how bad a GM Lowe was. He would let have his ego get in the way and would have gotten all vindictive with St.Louis and let him sit for nothing (ie comrie, lupul, pronger, souray, etc). Yzerman handled it like a pro and got great return for his team.

How is the handling of Pronger and Lupul by Lowe different than the handling of MSL by Yzerman?

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#71 tabs
March 05 2014, 06:01PM
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chris wrote:

Ganger is an awful player. lazy, dosen't backcheck, follows the puck in the defencive, and always out of position, not to mention He never throws a hit and is week on the puck, and sucks in the faceoff. He is worth nothing and we should glady give the space he takes up on the bench to a warm body that can throw a hit. ganger trade for omarks cup and a bag of pucks. nothing less

In October I stated Gags was worth a 2nd round pick and got called all kinds of things. One of the writers here went as far as booting me from the site for writing that.

Today Gags is worth almost nothing on the market.

This same writer believed last week that Smyth was worth the 21st pick and up in the 2014 draft. I stated then this line of thinking was insanity -

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#72 Zarny
March 05 2014, 10:52AM
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pkam wrote:

When MacT publicly announced that we needed to part with Horcoff and Hemsky when he took over the GM, he pretty much put himself into the corner by eliminating any chance for Hemsky to re-sign with us. So he must get something, anything, before this trade deadline. A 3rd and a 5th is better than nothing.

Hemsky was never going to resign for 3rd line money. It had nothing to do with what MacT said.

Unless you move Eberle or Yakupov it's simply not economical to resign Hemmer.

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#73 MWA1991
March 05 2014, 11:11AM
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The problem with the trade is the money. I get that he couldn't squeeze a 2nd rounder. I also get the 3rd in 2015 because from what everyone else is saying, it's a deeper draft. Although with MacT giving all the 2014 picks, I'm not sure they even need to show up draft day 2014. But take half of the salary is insane. It boils down to the Oil paid the Senator for a Top 6 forward. That's atrocious.

Sens get a Top 6 plus $580,000 for a 3rd and a 5th whose chances of becoming full time NHL players are slim to none.

He wasn't going to resign here. I get we had to get something. But that money really twirks me.

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#74 Sam
March 05 2014, 12:11PM
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Hemsky for 2 picks that will never play in the NHL. Any good deals on Sens jerseys anywhere??

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#75 CdnMaDCoW
March 05 2014, 12:18PM
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While watching the game last night ,I wondered why Neil pulled up on that open ice hit on Hemmer. Now it makes perfect sense. That coulda been lights out for Ales.

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#76 ghostofberanek
March 05 2014, 01:03PM
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oilfan in yyc wrote:

We're still paying 1/2 his salary and received two picks that have about a 25% chance of playing a game in the NHL between them. That isn't something, that is less than nothing. As I said would have been better to keep him the rest of the season and let him walk but apparently you can't read.

You make no sense. Option one would be to keep Hemsky, pay his whole salary and watch him walk away in July for nothing. Option two was to trade him for SOMETHING, pay half his salary and actually get something back. Option one was, in fact, less than nothing.

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#77 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
March 05 2014, 01:27PM
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Crap! Islanders get Ekblad!

No Tavares, no Vanek, no Moulson, no MacDonald.

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#78 pkam
March 05 2014, 01:58PM
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pkam wrote:

Islanders also got Sebastien Collberg, who was drafted 33rd overall in 2012, so it is actually 2 2nd rounders for Vanek. Can't believe Doug Murray and Vanek have the same trade value.

Just find out that 2nd from the Habs is a conditional 2nd. And Islanders have to package a conditional 5th with Vanek. In other words, Vanek worth less than Doug Murray who got the Sharks 2 2nd rounders.

What a poor year for the sellers.

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#79 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
March 05 2014, 02:24PM
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ghostofberanek wrote:

Good call!

Yeah...I credit my sources........

Oh yeah....and the ability to go back after the fact and edit my post!

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#80 Lofty
March 05 2014, 04:13PM
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1) Who cares if the oil eat 100% of Hemsky's salary. The only person that should have an issue with it should be D. Katz. The season is a wash for the organization and the contract is over in 4 months.

2) I question the gamble of Hemsky playing last night. Had he got hurt (again) they would have got nothing for him. I don't see last night increasing his value to where it was worth the gamble.

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#81 Oilcruzer
March 05 2014, 10:13PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

Here we are 5 yrs into this rebuild. Can anyone claim without any doubt, management has this club better off than they were 5 yrs ago?

Really only 5 or 6 players to claim they're building around. Trusting a rookie GM and rookie coach has them walking blindly in the desert. Things appear to be getting worse with the Oilers being out of it 1/4 the way through this seasons schedule.

QS, that's a misdirection play. At the moment, no. But in 2007, the team had zero assets in development and aging veterans. Hell, no farm team even for one year. They tried to bait and switch and then made some questionable moves w Green and Stoll and if I recall, still were riding the "JFJ has all the tools and he's going to turn the corner" bandwagon.

Not a great FA destination with no future. There were zero options. *Boom*

So, no, today's team isn't better. And Tambo wasn't helping.

With MacT at the helm, and he hasn't been on for a year yet, he has made 11 of the 58 trades for the year. He's been involved in ONE in FIVE trades in the league. Plus spun gold for free... A draft pick for free for simply signing Bryz on a trial. That allowed him to close the book on the Dubnyk project.

The team is poised to be better, and has assets to react to aging. No one is going to trade you their best player, unless they are UFA or disgruntled like Marty St Looo"Waaaaah!"

So you fill your bottom two lines with everyone's throw offs while you develop your Pitlicks.

You trade your developed extra assets with a draft choice for quality players like Perron. You get a house full of goalies, including a 20 yr old stud for a few years from now for next to nothing because no team can sell an untried current #3 for much.

You thank a number 83 for still sticking with it for a couple more years and give the fans at least something to cheer for while the building continues.

You move unmovable assets who have no role and are overpaid and accept what you can get, hoping you don't have to eat salary.

You thank God that Clarkson didn't choose to come over for what would have been an awful decision.

You learn as a GM you won't win on every signing or trade, but don't make major mistakes on the bad signings.

And... You suck it up when forums blast you for not creating a Stanley Cup Playoff entry within 5 years of blowing up and starting a new path to correct the mistakes from 1990 thru 2009.

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#83 jl
March 05 2014, 10:26AM
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@Fresh Mess

ahhahahaaa, coiler fans were saying late 1st after that performance, ahahahahah

you guys are beyond sucking.

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#84 Fresh Mess
March 05 2014, 10:26AM
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MacLooselips recovers the Fasth picks.

This will be a reality slap upside the head for the ON delusionals who thought Hemsky was worth a first.

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#85 Lochenzo
March 05 2014, 10:39AM
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Return for Hemsky feels cheap. Good point about Hemsky playing junior in Hull/Gatineau. An accomodation? I don't mind that much if it is. Hemsky has done everything asked of him this year.

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#86 OttawaOilFan
March 05 2014, 11:05AM
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Zarny wrote:

It's a good PR move but keep in mind the Canadian Olympic women's team basically went 0.500 against Midget teams.

It's a huge chasm between the women's Olympic team and the NHL. If Szabados ever had to play it would not be pretty.

I think she's very pretty :-)

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#87 Bicepus Maximus - Huge fan boy!
March 05 2014, 11:29AM
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Druds wrote:

Just getting rid of Potter is a step forward for this screwed up organization

The Curse of the Tambellini is deep-rooted in this organization. A piece at a time, must MacTavish rid us of this Curse. Continuing with Potter....... *spits on the ground*

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#88 Dave
March 05 2014, 12:04PM
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I wonder how much salary Oilers have to eat if they Trade Gagner.

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#89 DisappointedFan
March 05 2014, 12:08PM
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@oilerjed

Yepp, well who knows what will happen here in Oil Country...wouldn't even mind if Szabados started a game just to set a record.

Because we aren't making the playoffs regardless...

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#90 Cain
March 05 2014, 12:11PM
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pkam wrote:

I am willing to re-sign Hemsky to 4M for another 2-3 years. Not saying Hemsky will re-sign for this amount, but at least the option is there if MacT didn't make that announcement.

And if we manage to re-sign Hemsky to a reasonable contract, we will have 5 wingers who can play top 6 so we have the depth when one of them get injured. I don't see anyone in our roster or in OKC who can fill that role. We also have the option to trade one of Eberle, Yakupov or Perron (Hemsky can play LW).

It is never a bad thing to have more options.

Essentially what you are saying is: "Let's keep this 29th place team together"(albeit I'm sure you would add some decent defencemen to the mix)

I don't understand that thinking at all, we are incapable of scoring ANY goals right now,why would you want that to stay the same?

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#91 vetinari
March 05 2014, 12:41PM
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Our biggest trade chips have likely fallen and I doubt that anything that remains (Smyth, Jones) would land us anything higher than a fourth rounder at best. Not a great deadline but a necessary one to clear room for summer transactions.

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#92 Johnnydapunk
March 05 2014, 01:07PM
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I can't really complain about the moves the Oil has made, it was nothing surprising, bit of a cleanup before the summer, a chance for a few AHL players to see what they can offer. MacT did well in getting Fasth yesterday and let's see what happens in the summer.

It seems a lot of teams are trading potential FAs as there is some uncertainty with what the cap will be.

Overall I'm happy that MacT seems to be at least trying to address the needs of the team. He has been on the winning side of trades a bit more than losing so I'm fine with that.

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#93 The Last Big Bear
March 05 2014, 01:14PM
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You know what the Oilers really needed to do to finish this season?

To throw in the towel again.

It was extremely important to further reinforce the habit of tanking down the stretch, to get some minimal improvement in draft position (in this case by trading away contributing players for a couple of throw-away draft picks).

This is a team that habitually just doesn't quit, and management made the right decision by once again giving up on the season, and making it clear to the team that they're giving up on the season.

Again.

I mean, what does the team need more, a clear mandate from management that it's time to put a stop to the culture of tanking? Or a 5th rounder or two?

I think we all know the answer to that.

See you all at the draft lottery party.

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#94 pkam
March 05 2014, 01:46PM
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Randaman wrote:

You mean with the pick they traded?

The Islanders traded one of the 1st rounder of 2014 or 2015. So they can keep their 1st rounder for 2014. Without Vanek and Taveres, it is very likely they will finish last and get Ekblad. However, they have to take the risk of losing McDavid to Sabres next year.

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#95 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
March 05 2014, 02:41PM
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Just looking at the structure of the Goc deal.....3rd in 2015 5th in 2014....makes me wonder if MacT was going back and forth on Hemsky between Pittsburgh and Ottawa?

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#96 Jackson
March 05 2014, 03:29PM
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Jeffff wrote:

Pretty funny MacT explaining the demand increase for Hemsky after last nights game.

Note to MacT you got a 3rd and 5th rounder and you had to eat half his salary.

Huge demand. What a bunch of PR Bull

Imagine if Hemsky didn't play well last night Oilers would have got a 5th rounder and would have eaten all the salary

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#97 T__Bone88
March 05 2014, 04:18PM
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It feels like the return on Hemsky was underwhelming but at the same time did any of the higher profile free agents go for drastically more? Not a single player got a 1st for this upcoming draft which is considered weak compared to other years. I think GM's now feel that paying big prices for pending FA's isn't the smart way to do busy. Today wasn't a day for the Oilers to make the big trade splash which I think some were expecting. The Oilers did fine in my mind getting something in return for expiring contracts and we will have to wait until the draft/free agency in which I'm sure MacT will do something more meaningful.

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#98 admiralmark
March 05 2014, 04:40PM
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Lofty wrote:

1) Who cares if the oil eat 100% of Hemsky's salary. The only person that should have an issue with it should be D. Katz. The season is a wash for the organization and the contract is over in 4 months.

2) I question the gamble of Hemsky playing last night. Had he got hurt (again) they would have got nothing for him. I don't see last night increasing his value to where it was worth the gamble.

1) Agreed 2) Whoa whoa I have Hemsky in my hockeypool. The decision for him to play was a sound wise one.

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#99 TDSM31
March 05 2014, 07:40PM
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Don W wrote:

Actually they did pretty good on the Pronger trade when you look at what they got. Considering the circumstances it was a very good trade. I think Souray had everything to do about Tambellini and nothing to do with Lowe. Comrie was a gong show on Lowe and Lupul I can't remember what they got for him so I don't know. I get that you don't like Lowe but saying Yzerman did great is only true if they resign Callahan. If they don't I would never make that trade.

Even if Callahan doesn't sign Yzerman has a first and second rounder (possibly two first rounders if NY goes to conference final) for a soon to be 39 year old. Not to mention that he will have over $5MM freed up. Tampa won that trade.

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March 05 2014, 08:51AM
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It seems like just last week I was lamenting that the team had no NHL calibre goaltending signed for next year.Now they have two.Have to give Mac-T props on this one.

A few more draft picks today a few more contract spots opened up a few more dollars to spend.It is moving forward slowly,finally.

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