Baggedmilk Live Blogs the Trade Deadline ***UPDATED***

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March 05 2014 08:19AM

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It looks like my first order of business at the Nation is to sit on my ass and watch TV for the day. Life is good. Which Oilers will be traded? How many 4th round picks will we collect? No one knows for sure, but I'm "excited" to find out.

What's Happened So Far

Yesterday, MacT took care of the goaltending part of his to do list with a couple of trades. After only 4 months, #BryzNation is no more. Our favourite Russian Space Lord was traded to the Wild for a 4th round pick and I wish him well unless he is playing against the Oilers. MacT followed up the Bryzgalov trade by scoring Viktor Fasth for a 5th rounder in 2014 and a 3rd rounder in 2015.

Fasth still has another year left on his contract at $2.9 million and should make for a solid running mate with our beloved Ben Scrivens. It'll be interesting to see how they battle for ice time down the stretch. WHO COULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT THE OILERS WOULD HAVE BETTER GOALTENDING THAN THE CANUCKS WHEN YESTERDAY STARTED?!!? One thing is for sure, Vancouver sucks at goalies.

Anyway...

The Likely Candidates

As much as it sucks to say it, Ales Hemsky will likely not be an Oiler when the day is done. I never understood why some people dislike Hemsky so much. He's been a warrior for the Oilers, has played hurt, and was often the best player on a team full of clowns.  The return for Hemsky is likely definitely going to be disappointing and I'll even go so far as to predict a Twitter meltdown when the trade goes down. He scored a beauty goal last night and it bums me out to think about him on another team.

  • baggedmilk's prediction: Ales Hemsky for a 2nd and a 3rd round pick

I'd also be willing to bet Wanye's lunch money that Ryan Smyth will be leaving town again. For Smytty's sake, I hope MacT sends him to a contender for a chance to win the Cup. Personally, I'd like to see him re-signed for another year and finish where he started, but the guy deserves a chance to win. If anyone is down to go cry at the airport with me, just hit me up on Twitter.

  • baggedmilk's prediction: Ryan Smyth for a 4th round pick and my tears

Next up on your ol' pal BM's chopping block is Nick Schultz. The thing that bums me out about trading Nick Schultz is the fact that the Tom Gilbert trade will likely end up as a late round pick. At the time, lots of people were really into the Gilbert trade (I was too) but now it seems like it was all for nothing. Gilbert is having a solid year #FancyStats-wise in Florida (Jonathan Willis, Lowetide, Tyler Dellow etc. can explain) and now it seems like Nick Schultz will be traded for any asset MacT can grab. Seems like a Tambo trade lost, no?

  • baggedmilk's prediction: Nick Schultz for a 6th round pick

Last of my likely moves is another favourite of mine, Ryan Jones.  Jonesy hasn't been the same guy since the eye injury but I'll always love the man with the flow. He gave a lot of effort with not as much skill and he used his carcass to score some goals in his time here. Lots of stats guys disliked him, but luckily I don't know how to math - my guess is that we say so long to the flow today.

  • baggedmilk's prediction: Jonesy for a low pick


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The Gagner/Marcobello Factor

Before the Olympic break, Twitter had Gagner going to the Kings but nothing came from it except getting angry at Kyle Clifford's name. At this point, there's no need to trade Gagner.  He's under contract for a couple more years and he would likely fetch more at the draft. Meanwhile, Marcobello has been lighting things up in OKC and it would seem like he's too good to be playing in the AHL at this point. Can he replace Gagner on the 2nd line? Has Marcobello done enough to make MacT think Gagner is expendable? I can't see it happening right now. In my uneducated opinion, it'll be Marcobello that gets traded today or neither. I think Marcobello deserves a chance in the NHL but I can't see it happening with the Oilers. 

  • baggedmilk's prediction:  Arcobello for a prospect we'll all have to Google after

The Trades

While you're pretending to work, be sure to keep refreshing this article as I'll be posting live updates of Oilers trades as they happen.  Until then, if you disagree with my trade predictions let me know. If you have a prediction of your own, feel free to share so we can all argue about it. Enjoy the trade deadline, friends - workplace productivity be damned.

  • 10:05am - Boston Bruins claims Corey Potter off waivers
  • 10:30am - Ales Hemsky to Ottawa for a 5th round pick (2014) and a 3rd round pick (2015)
  • 10:49am - Former Oiler, Devan Dubnyk has been traded to the Canadiens for future considerations... tough year for Dubnyk
  • 12:23pm - Nick Schultz to Columbus for a 5th round pick **Corrected** -thanks John Shannon

That's all for Oilers trades today. The countdown to the draft lottery begins. 

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#151 ghostofberanek
March 05 2014, 01:29PM
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Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty) wrote:

Vanek to the Habs! Book it!

Good call!

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#152 ghostofberanek
March 05 2014, 02:30PM
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Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty) wrote:

Yeah...I credit my sources........

Oh yeah....and the ability to go back after the fact and edit my post!

Ha! And to think I was actually impressed.

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#153 HardBoiledOil
March 05 2014, 03:37PM
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pkam wrote:

I couldn't believe when I read the Flames traded Reto Berra to Avs for a 2nd rounder in 2014.

A 2nd rounder for a 27 year old UFA goalie who has only played 29 NHL games with a 0.897 SV% and 2.95 GA? What are the Avs thinking?

kinda makes the Oilers deal for Bryz seem like a rip off!

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#154 Oilcruzer
March 05 2014, 09:39PM
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Spydyr wrote:

They must of put the Oilers "Braintrust" in charge of Shaw today.

(Grammar police enters)

"...must have... ...must... ...HAVE...!!!"

(Grammar police exits)

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#155 Spydyr
March 05 2014, 08:53AM
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Rama Lama wrote:

I for one do not want to trade Hemsky for a 2nd rounder. Sign the warrior for another two years and trade him later.......everyone knows this guy is a better bet than than most of the players mentioned in trade deals so far.

Mac T will do the right thing today.

Sure but I don't think Hemsky is interested in signing here.

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#156 The Towel Boy
March 05 2014, 08:59AM
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I still have trouble wrapping my head around Hemsky for picks being a good thing. Have the Oilers made a reasonable offer to Hemsky? I've been out of the loop for the last few weeks.

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#157 John Chambers
March 05 2014, 08:59AM
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Lastly I want to see Hemsky end up in San Jose so I can watch him dangle the shit out of Mark Fraser sometime later this season.

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#158 rubbertrout
March 05 2014, 09:09AM
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Jason Bonsignore. NSFW Fridays. This is what I turn to you for. Not insight and analysis.

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#159 Fresh Mess
March 05 2014, 10:07AM
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Potter claimed by Boston.

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#160 Zarny
March 05 2014, 10:09AM
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Spydyr wrote:

Thanks for pointing out the obvious.

If it's obvious why on earth would the Oilers actually dress her?

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#161 Tikkanese
March 05 2014, 10:15AM
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Fresh Mess wrote:

Potter claimed by Boston.

Miracle! 23 teams passed on Potter for free. No idea how some on here thought they could trade him. I'm surprised he even got picked up on waivers.

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#162 Czar
March 05 2014, 10:47AM
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bumblebpete wrote:

Hate to see Hemsky go, but I'm glad he went to Ottawa. I believe that's where he wanted to be, since he played Junior in Hull.

I agree dude and it won't be hard to cheer for him in Ottawa.

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#163 Will
March 05 2014, 10:48AM
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For the Hemsky trade, I can imagine there was a compromise between what Mac T could get, and where Hemsky wanted to go.

I think he could have gotten more somewhere else, but Hemsky likely didn't want to go there. Where as Mac T might have gotten offered less by say the Burgh. So this feels like middle ground since it's likely Hemsky will want to resign with the Senators after the season is over.

It would have been nice to have gotten more, but I think this is a classy move on the part of management.

I'm glad I was there last night to watch his last performance as an Oiler.

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#164 Fresh Mess
March 05 2014, 10:53AM
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why would the habs pay to gey DD when he was available for free on waivers? I'm guesing the "futures" are something like a 7 round pick.

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#165 james_dean
March 05 2014, 11:12AM
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Oilerfan wrote:

Know what else is palletable? Bags of manure outside the front door of Canadian Tire on the Victoria Day weekend.

I like this quote :)

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#166 Fresh Mess
March 05 2014, 11:31AM
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MWA1991 wrote:

The problem with the trade is the money. I get that he couldn't squeeze a 2nd rounder. I also get the 3rd in 2015 because from what everyone else is saying, it's a deeper draft. Although with MacT giving all the 2014 picks, I'm not sure they even need to show up draft day 2014. But take half of the salary is insane. It boils down to the Oil paid the Senator for a Top 6 forward. That's atrocious.

Sens get a Top 6 plus $580,000 for a 3rd and a 5th whose chances of becoming full time NHL players are slim to none.

He wasn't going to resign here. I get we had to get something. But that money really twirks me.

As I stated yesterday, the market value for Hemsky was established as a fourth round pick. The oilers wanted more, so they had to swallow salary.

This reflects how the rest of the NHL views Hemsky.

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#167 Sevenseven
March 05 2014, 11:42AM
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I thought that penner going for a fourth set hemskys value ar a 3rd. Guess I was right.

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#168 The Real Scuba Steve
March 05 2014, 11:56AM
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Bob Cob wrote:

You're an idiot, makes sense that you're also a Flames fan. Hemsky was never going to get more than that. He has an expiring contract, he'll be a rental in Ottawa, he has been injury prone, and Mac T hurt his tradeability by saying last summer the Oilers were looking to trade him. Add in to that the fact the Oilers had to eat a chunk of his contract for the rest of the year and they were lucky to get as much as they did for Hemsky.

The only thing Burke does is wear his hair helmet bad.

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#169 pkam
March 05 2014, 11:57AM
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Zarny wrote:

Hemsky was never going to resign for 3rd line money. It had nothing to do with what MacT said.

Unless you move Eberle or Yakupov it's simply not economical to resign Hemmer.

I am willing to re-sign Hemsky to 4M for another 2-3 years. Not saying Hemsky will re-sign for this amount, but at least the option is there if MacT didn't make that announcement.

And if we manage to re-sign Hemsky to a reasonable contract, we will have 5 wingers who can play top 6 so we have the depth when one of them get injured. I don't see anyone in our roster or in OKC who can fill that role. We also have the option to trade one of Eberle, Yakupov or Perron (Hemsky can play LW).

It is never a bad thing to have more options.

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#170 Oilers21
March 05 2014, 12:34PM
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Ed in Edmonton wrote:

Hardly surprising, the resumes of the two players are remarkably similar. I wonder if Pit was in the hunt for Hemsky and Goc was their fall back position.

How are they similar? Goc has never had more than 30 points in a season. They're even the same age. I guess Goc has a slightly better +/-, for what that's worth

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#171 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
March 05 2014, 12:54PM
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Vanek to the Habs! Book it!

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#172 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
March 05 2014, 01:18PM
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Legwand to Detroit.

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#173 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
March 05 2014, 01:26PM
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Moulson to Minny.

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#174 Ted
March 05 2014, 03:28PM
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@Crooked

Not man NHL'ers in the group.

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#175 Spydyr
March 05 2014, 05:02PM
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Sevenseven wrote:

Couldn't dump Jonesy, but hey, no big deal. Goaltending situation looks way better for next year than this year. Not a bad trade deadline for the oilers! Could be worse, we could be the Islanders! Lets hope the market for Gagner gets hotter this summer. Please play great down the stretch Gags, please play great down the stretch....

Let's hope he was another eight point night.

Then again he had one point in the last ten games last year.A second assist.I think the former is more likely.

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#176 pkam
March 05 2014, 05:02PM
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TDSM31 wrote:

Okay, Lowe may not have been GM at the time but he was definitely the one leading the charge on how they handled Souray.

Then blame Katz because he is the one leading the charge.

Remember when Oilers fans asked for MacT's head in 2009? It was Katz, not Lowe, came out to say that MacT was not going anywhere.

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#177 EricOG
March 05 2014, 09:06AM
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I plead to the gords that all communications go down untill after the deadline and McT is stuck and has to offer Hemmer another contract.

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#178 Chambers
March 05 2014, 09:15AM
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Oiler fans must be excited today. This day as well as draft day is what they live for. There season is always over in October.

Sad and have fun as I have always said Oiler fans deserve better!

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#179 Czar
March 05 2014, 09:42AM
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Spydyr wrote:

With newly-acquired netminder Viktor Fasth not scheduled to arrive until later this afternoon, Olympic gold medal-winning Team Canada goalie and Edmonton native Shannon Szabados will practice with the ‪#‎Oilers‬ this morning.

I like that.

Saw that too, walking in with Nuge. Good for her!

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#180 pkam
March 05 2014, 10:44AM
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Oilers21 wrote:

Unless I'm missing something, we just basically gave Hemsky away. Not even a SECOND rounder??

When MacT publicly announced that we needed to part with Horcoff and Hemsky when he took over the GM, he pretty much put himself into the corner by eliminating any chance for Hemsky to re-sign with us. So he must get something, anything, before this trade deadline. A 3rd and a 5th is better than nothing.

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#181 oilerjed
March 05 2014, 10:46AM
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vetinari wrote:

Hemsky's remaining salary is couch change to Katz and we would have lost him for nothing at the end of the season anyways... the picks replace what we gave up for Fasth and if you ask me, I would have traded Hemsky straight up for Fasth ...

Not a great deal but:

3rd + 5th > 19 games of Hemsky

Nice way of looking at it. Backdoor 3 way deal? Maybe in 2 years we are bowing down to MacT or maybe not.

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#182 Cain
March 05 2014, 11:00AM
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Oilerfan wrote:

Know what else is palletable? Bags of manure outside the front door of Canadian Tire on the Victoria Day weekend.

HUH?

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#183 Oilerfan
March 05 2014, 11:09AM
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Cain wrote:

HUH?

Was a better joke before Old Retired Guy corrected his spelling. But the sentiment remains the same. Hemsky is and always was an expensive bag of sh!t, at the forefront of a badly run organization. I realize metaphors are a bit tough for a fanbase that thinks "Flames s.uck" is clever commentary.

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#184 Ed in Edmonton
March 05 2014, 11:17AM
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Lochenzo wrote:

There was a conversation between MacT and Hemsky this summer after we couldn't trade him. Hemsky agreed to do whatever was asked of him this year. Maybe discussing with Hemsky where he would want to play when the trade offers came in was part of their verbal agreement? MacT and Hemmer go way back.

Or maybe Mark Spector was actually right when he said Hemsky was only worth a 3rd.

I think the latter.

I see that some contributors are stating that "Oilers fans have over valued Hemsky" so hah!

Just for the record there has been about an even split on this site re the value Hemsky would fetch in a trade. Some saying a 1st rounder, high value prospect or even a roster player would be received, others suggesting much less.

Many Oiler fans such has myself are not the least bit surprised.

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#185 Bandwagon jumper
March 05 2014, 11:20AM
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If the Oil are retaining half of Hemmer's salary, it is only for the next 19 games. So about $600,000 for the remainder of the year. Like someone else said, pocket change for Katz.

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#186 DisappointedFan
March 05 2014, 11:23AM
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oilerjed wrote:

Good exit interview with Hemsky. At least I know who Im cheering for in the playoffs.

If they can make the playoffs...

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#187 Crooked
March 05 2014, 11:49AM
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Sad to see Hemsky go. Return was less than I'd hoped for, but it's better than nothing. Best of luck to him in Ottawa, hope he does great!

Dubnyk... jeez. He seemed super bummed about being traded again. Especially now that Montreal has announced he's being assigned to Hamilton. Ouch. Hope he's able to turn it around.

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#188 vetinari
March 05 2014, 12:41PM
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How dare I double post!!!! Rude!!! Trash trash trash...

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#189 oilfan in yyc
March 05 2014, 12:56PM
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@ghostofberanek

We're still paying 1/2 his salary and received two picks that have about a 25% chance of playing a game in the NHL between them. That isn't something, that is less than nothing. As I said would have been better to keep him the rest of the season and let him walk but apparently you can't read.

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#190 NontOilerfan
March 05 2014, 01:08PM
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Cmon, don't be so hard on MacT! I'm sure we all went into today hoping for a bold move to try a get the coveted "5th round selection"! Now we have 3 of them!

Its all part of the plan to build the best "Team of Hobbits" that happen to play in a division of Orcs!

Congrats MacKnucklehead, maybe you shouldhve kept your helmet on!!!

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#191 Johnnydapunk
March 05 2014, 01:10PM
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Soccer Steve wrote:

Guys, at least we aren't the Islanders. They way they're run, they make us look like the Red Wings.

I agree with that, seems like Buffalo is also going through some kind of implosion as well.

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#192 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
March 05 2014, 01:25PM
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Habs are trade day winners.

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#193 Blucifer Copperballs
March 05 2014, 02:19PM
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pkam wrote:

Just find out that 2nd from the Habs is a conditional 2nd. And Islanders have to package a conditional 5th with Vanek. In other words, Vanek worth less than Doug Murray who got the Sharks 2 2nd rounders.

What a poor year for the sellers.

Snow had to get Vanek out of NYI, and the Habs arent going to sell the farm for a player who will test free agency in the summer. No way Vanek changes his mind on that, not after all the hoopla this year. We'll be talking about his new team again in a few months. Habs gave up basically nothing to rent him, and NYI got something instead of nothing if they didnt move him. Win-Win.

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#194 Blucifer Copperballs
March 05 2014, 02:45PM
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Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty) wrote:

Just looking at the structure of the Goc deal.....3rd in 2015 5th in 2014....makes me wonder if MacT was going back and forth on Hemsky between Pittsburgh and Ottawa?

Gotta think ( at least hope) MACT would have dealt Hemsky to PIT over OTT for the difference in years. 3rd and 5th round picks are long shots, regardless, so i would hope he'd put Hemmer in the best position for a cup run.

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#195 Senator Theo
March 05 2014, 04:42PM
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TDSM31 wrote:

The St.Louis situation today reminded me of how bad a GM Lowe was. He would let have his ego get in the way and would have gotten all vindictive with St.Louis and let him sit for nothing (ie comrie, lupul, pronger, souray, etc). Yzerman handled it like a pro and got great return for his team.

Lowe wasn't even GM during the Souray situation. It seems odd to include him in that list.

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#196 Zarf
March 06 2014, 09:57AM
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I'm trying to figure out why it's a big deal that the Oilers have been asked to eat part of the remainder of Hemsky's salary.

If there are 20 games left in the season ... that's a quarter of the season. A quarter of $5 million is, like $1.25 million. If the Oilers are on the hook for half of that, it's $600,000. Chicken feed nowadays. Certainly not onerous ... and certainly not worth holding up as evidence that MacT got fleeced.

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#197 rob
March 05 2014, 08:46AM
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something big is happening today,book it,my guess is ebs or yaks is gone

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#198 Spydyr
March 05 2014, 08:59AM
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Did shaw go down for anyone else?

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#199 John Chambers
March 05 2014, 08:59AM
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I hope we trade for Tim Thomas, Jaro Halak, and the rights to Kari Takko.

No reason to stop loadin' up on Tenders.

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#200 Cody anderson
March 05 2014, 09:22AM
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It would only make sense that Hemsky wants a change. He is not a good fit for a bottom 6 position, and he no longer belongs in our top 6 with Yak and Ebs on the right side.

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