SHOULDER THE LOAD

Lowetide
March 05 2014 11:10PM

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Today's deadline deal that sent away Nick Schultz opens up a big league job for a left defender. Oscar Klefbom was to receive the call today, but suffered an injury and his NHL debut is delayed.

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Statistically, Klefbom has shown progress in his first pro season. If we split his season in half, it's easy to see the progress:

  • Oct-Dec: 27, 0-3-3 -10
  • Jan-Mar: 18, 1-5-6 +1

That's progress! Recently, Jonathan Willis wrote an interesting item on Klefbom and I think pointed us to the reason why the Oilers want to see Klefbom now.

  • Willis: Klefbom    has been the third most-impressive AHL blueliner, and his numbers back that up. He’s been playing mostly on a pairing with David Musil too, so his results have not been goosed by having a difference-making partner. He’s almost the exact opposite of Fedun as a player: Fedun has average speed, below average size, but computes the game brilliantly while Klefbom’s extremely fast and has a pro frame but gets in trouble because his decision making could be better.

I spoke to Jason Strudwick about Klefbom today, and he mentioned something that benefited him when he was Klefbom's age, gave him an indication about how much was still to be done: a game in the NHL.    


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Klefbom's injury history is growing, and word today (from MacT, and vague) about another injury is a concern. He's missed time this season and lost most of last season to injury back in Sweden. Klefbom's injury history is fairly long for such a young man:

  • Sept 2/11: Swedish Oil: Klefbom was unlucky enough to get cut on his thigh by an ice skate, the wound was sewn with ten stitches, and when the stitches were removed there was an infection. Now Klefbom is on penicillin which also prohibits him from playing. 
  • Nov 14/11: Sami Hoffrén: Klefbom was hit to the head by a Russian forward and he had to leave the game. Didn’t play in the tournament after that hit. I assume Klefbom suffered a concussion.
  • Oct 9/12: he lost his season to a shoulder injury.     Oscar Klefbom: “It happened on Oct. 9 playing against Vaxjo,” Klefbom said. “I dumped the puck in the offensive zone and I got a small hit from behind and I lost my balance and I flew into the boards. I had to catch myself with my left arm. Afterwards, I couldn’t feel my arm, it was like a dead arm. I didn’t know what happened.”
  • Sept 12/13: Oilers announce they are following concussion protocol after Klefbom is injured in the U of A game.
  • 2013-14: He spent various portions of the season out of the lineup with injury. 

Injuries are now a pretty large issue with this player—not Pouliot-level yet—and he hasn't played his first NHL game.

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This is unwelcome news. It's important not to overreact—MacT's word and tone didn't suggest anything major and Klefbom finished the game—but it's worth noting as the news cycle winds down for the day.

Oscar Klefbom has been on the horizon for a couple of years now, and the injury concerns have been marching in lock step. We wait for more information on Klefbom. 

(photos by Rob Ferguson, all rights reserved)

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#1 D
March 05 2014, 11:25PM
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If his style of play portends to greater injuries, can that be changed? If it's not his style of play, is it just a matter of bad luck?

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#2 bazmagoo
March 05 2014, 11:26PM
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Happy to see Hemsky go to Ottawa today, he was a good soldier and super glad he's got an opportunity to play top 6 minutes. He was an electric player when at his best, and brought me out of my seat on many occasions. Godspeed Ales!

Hopefully Klef's injury is a minor one and he can get a cup of coffee in the bigs before the season is up.

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#3 eastcoastoil
March 05 2014, 11:27PM
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LT,

Do you know if the Larsen reacall was before or after the trade deadline?

I thought i read somewhere that JW thought Klef was better served by coming up halfway through the season next year.

I also remember that Ebs came up after the pats season was over(i think). Is that a option with Nurse?

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#4 bazmagoo
March 05 2014, 11:28PM
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@eastcoastoil

I believe the Larson call up was after the deadline, MacT stated that in his press conference today. He mentioned they were going to call up Klefbom, he suffered an injury so Larsen got the call instead.

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#5 Harry
March 05 2014, 11:29PM
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I saw Klef play in the young starts tourney in Penticton in the fall. He was awesome! The thing that stood out the most fpr me was hot fast and agile he was for such a big guy. I love this guys game and really hope he puts this injury crap behind him

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#6 toprightcorner
March 06 2014, 12:22AM
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eastcoastoil wrote:

LT,

Do you know if the Larsen reacall was before or after the trade deadline?

I thought i read somewhere that JW thought Klef was better served by coming up halfway through the season next year.

I also remember that Ebs came up after the pats season was over(i think). Is that a option with Nurse?

Eberle came up to the AHL to play for the Springfield Falcons for each of his last 2 years in junior. I don't beleive a junior player can be called up to the NHL at the end of the season without burning a year of his contract. I would love to see Nurse play some games for the Barons if the new CBA allows it.

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#7 Spoils
March 06 2014, 12:43AM
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Considering Klefbom was a first team AllStar at the WJC

http://www.tsn.ca/World_jrs/feature/?id=1324

it would really blow if he didn't at least anchor our 2nd pair.

Nurse, Schultz, Klefbom, Ekblad/(whatever our first pick gets us in 2014), Marincin, Petry

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#8 **
March 06 2014, 01:04AM
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As the months go by, Klefbom looks less like a stud and more like a unicorn. My take is they should bring him the moment he is ready to play. There will be no better time and his games up here will give him instruction on what to work on during the rest of the games in OKC and during the summer.

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#9 pelhem grenville
March 06 2014, 03:54AM
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...worrisome that this young man is spending as much time injured as he is...especially when there is at least one melon issue at his age...if this list grows as it looks like it has, without an NHL game under his belt, I'm hoping the "show" doesn't just take him out of the game before his time...keep your head up Oscar!

p.s.LT ...with Scarlett being in the family way...will you be getting us updates along the way? y'know sonograms and stuff? here's hoping the little gaffer looks like you bud

heehah!

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#10 K_Mart
March 06 2014, 06:45AM
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Nurse can't play for the barons yet. But he will be old enough at the end of next season so he will get some games in then.

There is going to be some fierce pressure for MacT and Eakins to start Nurse next season but they need to hold strong and give him one more year in Jr.

The fact that Nurse slowed quite a bit at the end of this Jr. Season could be a sign that he isn't ready for an 82 game NHL season. Not saying it is, but it could be.

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#11 Oilerz4life
March 06 2014, 07:19AM
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K_Mart wrote:

Nurse can't play for the barons yet. But he will be old enough at the end of next season so he will get some games in then.

There is going to be some fierce pressure for MacT and Eakins to start Nurse next season but they need to hold strong and give him one more year in Jr.

The fact that Nurse slowed quite a bit at the end of this Jr. Season could be a sign that he isn't ready for an 82 game NHL season. Not saying it is, but it could be.

I wouldn't say Nurse slowed a bit so much as he fell under media scrutiny. Eb and flow. He fell under the same scrutiny in the pre-season and suprised everyone with his learning curve, agility and strength on the puck. Word is at some point, not necessarily soon, but at some point, he has the potential to be a top defender in the league and is an absolute beast.

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#12 Smokey
March 06 2014, 07:41AM
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Fedun deserves a legit shot to showcase himself. The guy gave everything he had and got four games. In that he scored a pair, and played reasonably well. Let him earn his oportunity for somewhere else if the Oil dont want him.

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#13 the tikk
March 06 2014, 07:43AM
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So he's like Teubert, but less durable?

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#14 Smokey
March 06 2014, 07:43AM
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Oilerz4life wrote:

I wouldn't say Nurse slowed a bit so much as he fell under media scrutiny. Eb and flow. He fell under the same scrutiny in the pre-season and suprised everyone with his learning curve, agility and strength on the puck. Word is at some point, not necessarily soon, but at some point, he has the potential to be a top defender in the league and is an absolute beast.

If Nurse can't play in the AHL, I see no harm no foul in a 9 game audition in the NHL. Use it as a primer for the World Juniors, give him a taste.

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#15 Smokey
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the tikk wrote:

So he's like Teubert, but less durable?

Except Teubert skated like he was in cement.

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#16 John B
March 06 2014, 08:06AM
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You mean the Oilers have a potential top-level defender but he's injury prone? How unusual!

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#17 camdog
March 06 2014, 08:16AM
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Shame that Musil is getting knocked in this article. Reality is he thinks the game as good as any of our current d-man, problem being his foot speed isn't good enough to jump to the next level.

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#18 Max
March 06 2014, 08:40AM
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I was disappointed with the recall of Larsen, felt plenty of others deserved it more, but when I listened to the presser, MacT said that Larson hadn't yet flown back to OKC so he was readily available.

I am really hoping for Fedun to come up again, and Pitlick as well as others. Giving these kids a chance will be a good sign of what we have to do at end of season.

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#19 Max
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Max wrote:

I was disappointed with the recall of Larsen, felt plenty of others deserved it more, but when I listened to the presser, MacT said that Larson hadn't yet flown back to OKC so he was readily available.

I am really hoping for Fedun to come up again, and Pitlick as well as others. Giving these kids a chance will be a good sign of what we have to do at end of season.

Larsen - sorry, too early in the morning to be perfect!!!!!!

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#20 David S
March 06 2014, 08:43AM
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Those of us who still care about W's in the here and now probably won't be too excited to hear "the third most-impressive AHL blueliner" will be facing the best forwards in the world on a nightly basis for our team.

Geez man. This team HAS to get it together soon. At some point it'd really be something if we could be reading stories about the real NHL talent on our team instead of the next junior player the grade school kids are talking about at lunch break.

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#21 Al Low
March 06 2014, 08:57AM
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That's unfortunate. Hopefully, Klefbom's good to go soon. Anything would be better than the D that we're looking at right now. As bad as Justin Schultz has looked some nights, I think he's still got lots of potential. But I see him as a no 3-4 dman in the future. Petry and Ferrence (albeit a very overpaid bottom pairing guy in Ferrence) are 5-6 on most teams. I do think Nurse will eventually be a top 2 guy. It would be great to see where Klefbom would fit into this potential future group. Obviously, a top dman is still needed and something MacT needs to address in the offseason. I think Fedun could take a 5-6 spot if the Oil decided to unload Petry in a package after the season. Larson and Belov don't really cut it as NHL dmen, in my opinion. And, it's good to see Nick Schultz and Corey Potter will not be options going forward.

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#22 A-Mc
March 06 2014, 09:09AM
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This kid just can't catch a break.. Injury. Injury. Injury.

I'm begging the Hockey gods to allow Klefbom to stay healthy and develop into the Defenseman the Oilers desperately need. PLEAAAASSEEEEEEE. *Bows to Hockey Gods*

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#23 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
March 06 2014, 09:11AM
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Put Klefbom in a package with Gagner and whoever and get us a legitimate number one Dman.

Yes! To all of you "you can't trade him before he even plays a game in the NHL"....yes...yes you can...these artificial cliche parameters are all bullcrap.....get it done MacT! The Kid is Brittle...and we MUST get a number one Dman who can play now. Enough already with the hopes and wishes and unicorn kisses.

The whole Klefbom, Nurse, Ekblad, plan reeks of desperation....

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#24 Johnson
March 06 2014, 09:14AM
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How could MacT be so wrong about Klefbom he e expected him to be playing in the NHL after a few games in the AHL.

Just because MacT is soft spoken and articulate this does not make him a good GM

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#25 Rob...
March 06 2014, 09:24AM
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Remove the two concussions and cut by a skate, injuries that can happen to anyone, and you're left with two shoulder injuries over the last 3 years. Those are a concern but there's not a team out there that has more expertise than the Oilers when it comes to shoulder injuries.

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#26 Jack
March 06 2014, 09:42AM
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Why do sportswriters blogs TSN ESPN have the Hemsky trade wrong?

They should be embarrassed.

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#27 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
March 06 2014, 09:43AM
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Previous Gregor post

"In the last 20 years, the only true elite D-man chosen in the top five who spent significant time with the team that drafted him was Scott Niedermayer. Mike Rathje, Chris Phillips and Rotislav Klesla have spent at least ten years with the team that drafted them, but none of them are elite."

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#28 John B
March 06 2014, 09:44AM
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Al Low wrote:

That's unfortunate. Hopefully, Klefbom's good to go soon. Anything would be better than the D that we're looking at right now. As bad as Justin Schultz has looked some nights, I think he's still got lots of potential. But I see him as a no 3-4 dman in the future. Petry and Ferrence (albeit a very overpaid bottom pairing guy in Ferrence) are 5-6 on most teams. I do think Nurse will eventually be a top 2 guy. It would be great to see where Klefbom would fit into this potential future group. Obviously, a top dman is still needed and something MacT needs to address in the offseason. I think Fedun could take a 5-6 spot if the Oil decided to unload Petry in a package after the season. Larson and Belov don't really cut it as NHL dmen, in my opinion. And, it's good to see Nick Schultz and Corey Potter will not be options going forward.

That's the biggest problem this defense corp has had to deal with for about 7 years now isn't it; half a dozen #3-#7 defensemen trying to play above their heads! One day this franchise will have to get over their inferiority complex & start putting guys into positions where they are designed to fit (eg, bonafide #1 NHL defencemen in first pairing), then they don't have to do a job they aren't cut out for.

The other advantage to putting the right defenceman into the right spot is they don't have worry about doing their partners job as well as their own which is what happens a lot right now.

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#29 GriffCity
March 06 2014, 09:50AM
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I am kind of afraid that Klefbom is a bust. It makes sense that they don't want to bring him up to the nhl level to fall on his face and decrease his stock. He was penciled in to make the team this season and not only did he fall way short of that out of camp but has failed to earn a call up all bloody abysmal season. You would think if the Oil had a stud on the farm they could have certainly used him on the back end with all of their troubles. I think that Klefbom may be a big disappointment and as much as i'd hate to write off a player before he even plays a game in the nhl i feel it is happening. Perhaps the Oilers brass still understands that he was a highly touted draft pick and that they may be able to sell another franchise on the excellent junior play and "progression" he has shown at the AHL level and try to move him as a package for a real defenceman.

I heard Klefbom in a pre-season interview compare his style of gamew to that of newly departed Oilers blueliner Nick Schultz. Really Oscar? Thats who you would compare your style of play to? Perhaps that is another telling indication of the reason why Marincin, Fedun, Larson, Potter, and even Hunt have been called up to the show this season and Klefbom, for whatever reason has not. Don't be shocked if you see Klefbom moved perhaps along side another player this summer for someone with an NHL pedigree.

I surely hope this is not another utter draft FAIL by Oiler management. Time will surely tell

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#30 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
March 06 2014, 09:53AM
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Previous Gregor Post

"By my count in the 47-year history of the draft, only seven [players picked top-5] have emerged as elite defenders. Brad Park, Denis Potvin, Dave Babych, Larry Murphy, Scott Neidermayer, Chris Pronger and Ed Jovanovski. Drew Doughty looks like he’ll join that group and the jury is still out on Bogosian, Hedman, Suter, Phaneuf, Johnson and Johnson."

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#31 2004Z06
March 06 2014, 09:57AM
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I have had concerns with Klefbom injury history since we drafted him. Would have liked to have seen him moved in a package.

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#32 K Pal
March 06 2014, 09:58AM
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Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty) wrote:

Previous Gregor post

"In the last 20 years, the only true elite D-man chosen in the top five who spent significant time with the team that drafted him was Scott Niedermayer. Mike Rathje, Chris Phillips and Rotislav Klesla have spent at least ten years with the team that drafted them, but none of them are elite."

Hmmmmmm. Shea Weber...Duncan Keith....just off the top of my head. But of course, there is nothing elite about these guys. Right ?????????????????

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#33 Oil Can
March 06 2014, 09:59AM
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@Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)

Yes I agree that there are some players that should never be traded before the teams see what they have. But with Klefbom the Oil know what they have and he would seem to be a quality defence prospect and should be a 3 or 4 d-man in the NHL in a year or so. But the Oil have to many top defence prospects and Klefbom would be better served if he was packaged and traded for a need for the Oil. But it will also take a lot more than him and Gagner to get a number one d-man. Personally I don't think that anybody is going to give up a number one d-man period, but if someone was to give one up it would take Hall or RNH, just to get to talks started. And Erhoff or Cambell are not the defenceman that the Oil need. Sutter or Weber are the type of d-man that the Oil need and they are not available and if they were available it would be a bidding war that the Oil probably would not win any way.

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#34 2004Z06
March 06 2014, 10:01AM
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When we are speaking of call-ups,lets remember that OKC is in a playoff race. The Oilers are no where near that. Why pull their best players at this point. The playoff experience will serve them better than the bottom of the NHL experience they would receive here.

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#35 K Pal
March 06 2014, 10:02AM
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K Pal wrote:

Hmmmmmm. Shea Weber...Duncan Keith....just off the top of my head. But of course, there is nothing elite about these guys. Right ?????????????????

Oops.. missed top five .. my apologies. Curious though. Which Oiler defense prospect picked in top 5 were we referring to???

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#36 GriffCity
March 06 2014, 10:08AM
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2004Z06 wrote:

When we are speaking of call-ups,lets remember that OKC is in a playoff race. The Oilers are no where near that. Why pull their best players at this point. The playoff experience will serve them better than the bottom of the NHL experience they would receive here.

Disagree. Players play their way to be among the best so that they can get a call from the NHL. AHL playoffs, which aren't even here yet or an NHL debut? hmm, tough call. Furthermore, the NHL experience is required to see if a player can actually perform at that level, regardless of AHL play. See Omark and/or Lander for definable reasons.

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#37 Harry
March 06 2014, 10:25AM
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GriffCity wrote:

I am kind of afraid that Klefbom is a bust. It makes sense that they don't want to bring him up to the nhl level to fall on his face and decrease his stock. He was penciled in to make the team this season and not only did he fall way short of that out of camp but has failed to earn a call up all bloody abysmal season. You would think if the Oil had a stud on the farm they could have certainly used him on the back end with all of their troubles. I think that Klefbom may be a big disappointment and as much as i'd hate to write off a player before he even plays a game in the nhl i feel it is happening. Perhaps the Oilers brass still understands that he was a highly touted draft pick and that they may be able to sell another franchise on the excellent junior play and "progression" he has shown at the AHL level and try to move him as a package for a real defenceman.

I heard Klefbom in a pre-season interview compare his style of gamew to that of newly departed Oilers blueliner Nick Schultz. Really Oscar? Thats who you would compare your style of play to? Perhaps that is another telling indication of the reason why Marincin, Fedun, Larson, Potter, and even Hunt have been called up to the show this season and Klefbom, for whatever reason has not. Don't be shocked if you see Klefbom moved perhaps along side another player this summer for someone with an NHL pedigree.

I surely hope this is not another utter draft FAIL by Oiler management. Time will surely tell

Klefbom was never penciled in to make the team this year. The plan was to allow him a full season in OKC because of all the hockey he has missed in the past 2 years. Hence the call ups of all the other dmen before him. Make no mistake he has all the physical abilities {great passer, fast, agile, strong in the corners} that make up a great prospect defenceman. Trust me if he can stay healthy he'll be a very good top 4 dman in the NHL soon.

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#38 Harry
March 06 2014, 10:27AM
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K Pal wrote:

Hmmmmmm. Shea Weber...Duncan Keith....just off the top of my head. But of course, there is nothing elite about these guys. Right ?????????????????

Classic...Weber and Keith werent even chosen int he first round let alone top5. SPAZZZ

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#39 Mclick
March 06 2014, 10:42AM
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bazmagoo wrote:

Happy to see Hemsky go to Ottawa today, he was a good soldier and super glad he's got an opportunity to play top 6 minutes. He was an electric player when at his best, and brought me out of my seat on many occasions. Godspeed Ales!

Hopefully Klef's injury is a minor one and he can get a cup of coffee in the bigs before the season is up.

Am I the only one that is REALLY tired of the "Good Soldier" reference for Hemsky and just hockey players in general. I get it, you heard them say it on the radio over and over so now it is your opinion.

Hockey players are not soldier. Does a hockey player put his life on the line to barely make an income? Does a hockey player have to deal with PTSD. I've seen it first hand how it affects "REAL" soldiers.

Tired of that reference and I hope to not hear it. Hemsky was a good player and worked hard and took a beating while doing it.

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#40 Mclick
March 06 2014, 10:49AM
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@2004Z06

Why trade an up and coming defensive prospect, and for what, nothing at the trade deadline. Hemsky got us a few picks...Klefbom would have got us a hockey bag and some sock tape at this point in his career and go on to likely be a top D a few years down the road on another team.

The article makes you think it is a long and horrible injury history and that we should be concerned about it.

His leg was sliced which is not a normal wear and tear injury.

He was pushed form behind into the boards which is not based on his play, just circumstance.

A few head hits aren't going to likely knock this guy out. They likely have more protocol to follow now with respect to head hits so it seems like a bigger deal.

How long was Petry out after his head hit the glass? I expect Klefbom to get a look before the season is over for sure.

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#41 Harry
March 06 2014, 10:51AM
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Mclick wrote:

Am I the only one that is REALLY tired of the "Good Soldier" reference for Hemsky and just hockey players in general. I get it, you heard them say it on the radio over and over so now it is your opinion.

Hockey players are not soldier. Does a hockey player put his life on the line to barely make an income? Does a hockey player have to deal with PTSD. I've seen it first hand how it affects "REAL" soldiers.

Tired of that reference and I hope to not hear it. Hemsky was a good player and worked hard and took a beating while doing it.

I was totally with you until you said he worked hard.

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#42 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
March 06 2014, 10:53AM
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Oil Can wrote:

Yes I agree that there are some players that should never be traded before the teams see what they have. But with Klefbom the Oil know what they have and he would seem to be a quality defence prospect and should be a 3 or 4 d-man in the NHL in a year or so. But the Oil have to many top defence prospects and Klefbom would be better served if he was packaged and traded for a need for the Oil. But it will also take a lot more than him and Gagner to get a number one d-man. Personally I don't think that anybody is going to give up a number one d-man period, but if someone was to give one up it would take Hall or RNH, just to get to talks started. And Erhoff or Cambell are not the defenceman that the Oil need. Sutter or Weber are the type of d-man that the Oil need and they are not available and if they were available it would be a bidding war that the Oil probably would not win any way.

Yeah.....and there's a snowballs chance in hell that Slats can trade for last years Art Ross Trophy winner at the deadline. Also....Erhoff and Campbell are miles ahead of ANY defensemen the Oilers currently have. Don't let the perfect come at the cost of the good. Do so and you risk ending up doing nothing.....and the COST of doing nothing is that you further erode the development of the core talent.

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#43 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
March 06 2014, 11:04AM
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Is Fasth here yet?

Edit: Update...Victor Fasth Has arrived in Edmonton and is taking part in the morning skate.

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#44 Serious Gord
March 06 2014, 11:05AM
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Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty) wrote:

Put Klefbom in a package with Gagner and whoever and get us a legitimate number one Dman.

Yes! To all of you "you can't trade him before he even plays a game in the NHL"....yes...yes you can...these artificial cliche parameters are all bullcrap.....get it done MacT! The Kid is Brittle...and we MUST get a number one Dman who can play now. Enough already with the hopes and wishes and unicorn kisses.

The whole Klefbom, Nurse, Ekblad, plan reeks of desperation....

Agree 100%.

I say get up here and showcase him if he's healthy enough and then package him off. This team has far too much uncertainty as it is, it needs to get some proven assets in place.

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#45 Oil Can
March 06 2014, 11:06AM
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@Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)

With all due respect St.Louis is not one of the top centres or forwards in the game and he is 38 years old and he requested a trade and would only go to New York. That is a whole lot different than trying to get a big tough number one defenceman in his prime. Both Erhoff and Cambell are to soft and offensive d-men only. Yes they are better than what the Oil have now, but they will not make the Oil better enough to even think about the playoffs.

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#46 wiseguy
March 06 2014, 11:21AM
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Mclick wrote:

Am I the only one that is REALLY tired of the "Good Soldier" reference for Hemsky and just hockey players in general. I get it, you heard them say it on the radio over and over so now it is your opinion.

Hockey players are not soldier. Does a hockey player put his life on the line to barely make an income? Does a hockey player have to deal with PTSD. I've seen it first hand how it affects "REAL" soldiers.

Tired of that reference and I hope to not hear it. Hemsky was a good player and worked hard and took a beating while doing it.

I don't think anyone should seriously compare anything in sport to real life so in the context of a sports story, column, or blog, we all understand what being a "good soldier" means. It means he's a team player, honors the crest on his jersey, stays in line despite treatment that may seem unfair, etc. Nobody is comparing a player to guys taking live bullets in war. Other expressions: "Semenko policed the ice". Doesn't mean he carried sidearm and arrested anyone who assaulted Gretzky. " Weber is a stud defence men" doesn't mean he is forcibly mated with another defenceman to produce genetically superior defenceman offspring. Get off your soapbox.

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#47 BigE91
March 06 2014, 11:30AM
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Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty) wrote:

Put Klefbom in a package with Gagner and whoever and get us a legitimate number one Dman.

Yes! To all of you "you can't trade him before he even plays a game in the NHL"....yes...yes you can...these artificial cliche parameters are all bullcrap.....get it done MacT! The Kid is Brittle...and we MUST get a number one Dman who can play now. Enough already with the hopes and wishes and unicorn kisses.

The whole Klefbom, Nurse, Ekblad, plan reeks of desperation....

Yes, exactly, Klefbom, Gagner and WHOEVER, is going to bring the Oilers a number 1 d-man. Unless the circumstances are extenuating the only 2 players on the Oilers that have the ability of garnering a number 1 d-man in trade are Hall and Nugent-Hopkins. A package of Eberle and Yakupov might do the trick but there is no way Gagner, a prospect and ??? entice a GM to give away a cornerstone player.

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#48 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
March 06 2014, 11:36AM
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K Pal wrote:

Hmmmmmm. Shea Weber...Duncan Keith....just off the top of my head. But of course, there is nothing elite about these guys. Right ?????????????????

They're discussing Dmen that were drafted in the top 5. Weber and Keith were well outside that group.

Could probably add Adam Larsson to that group though. Should be interesting to see the results of Seth Jones after year one. Probably be some good data there that could be useful for 18/19 yr old dmen.

Klefbom needs to put a healthy season together before he'll have much/any value. Throwing him to the AHL wolves could shorten what appears to be a soon perishing hockey career.

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#49 2004Z06
March 06 2014, 11:38AM
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Mclick wrote:

Am I the only one that is REALLY tired of the "Good Soldier" reference for Hemsky and just hockey players in general. I get it, you heard them say it on the radio over and over so now it is your opinion.

Hockey players are not soldier. Does a hockey player put his life on the line to barely make an income? Does a hockey player have to deal with PTSD. I've seen it first hand how it affects "REAL" soldiers.

Tired of that reference and I hope to not hear it. Hemsky was a good player and worked hard and took a beating while doing it.

I prefer the term Mercenaries to Soldiers. Soldiers do what they do because they have heart, character etc. Mercenaries do what they do because they are being paid by the highest bidder!

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#50 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
March 06 2014, 11:38AM
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BigE91 wrote:

Yes, exactly, Klefbom, Gagner and WHOEVER, is going to bring the Oilers a number 1 d-man. Unless the circumstances are extenuating the only 2 players on the Oilers that have the ability of garnering a number 1 d-man in trade are Hall and Nugent-Hopkins. A package of Eberle and Yakupov might do the trick but there is no way Gagner, a prospect and ??? entice a GM to give away a cornerstone player.

I looked it up....the word "whoever" means "whoever"....J. Shultz, Yak, Ebbs, etc....whoever....get it now?

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