GDB 64.0: DRAFT LOTTERY DUEL

Jason Gregor
March 06 2014 03:03PM

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Now that the playoff roster deadline has passed, the focus, unfortunately for Oilers fans, once again turns to the draft lottery.

The Oilers are virtually guaranteed to finish in the bottom five, and unless one of the teams finishing 17th-25th wins the lottery, the Oilers will have another top-five pick.

24  Carolina M 62 27 26 9 63 26 154 175 -21 15-12-5 12-14-4 1-3 3-7-0 Won 1
25  Nashville C 62 26 26 10 62 25 151 188 -37 15-14-4 11-12-6 1-7 3-4-3 Lost 2
26  NY Islanders M 64 24 32 8 56 18 176 217 -41 9-16-8 15-16-0 6-4 3-7-0 Won 1
27  Calgary P 62 24 31 7 55 20 145 186 -41 13-15-3 11-16-4 4-3 6-4-0 Won 1
28  Florida A 62 23 32 7 53 16 152 201 -49 11-13-4 12-19-3 7-5 2-8-0 Lost 1
29  Edmonton P 63 21 34 8 50 19 157 206 -49 11-15-3 10-19-5 2-2 6-2-2 Won 1
30  Buffalo A 61 18 35 8 44 12 124 183 -59 12-17-5 6-18-3 6-4 4-5-1 Lost 1


Tonight's game is critical, if you believe a higher draft spot guarantees the Oilers a better player, because a win puts the Oilers within four points of the Islanders, while a loss puts them eight points back.

Let the race begin.

The Oilers are 6-2-2 in their last ten games, with only Minnesota and Philadelphia picking up more points during that stretch. They've been out shot in 9 of those games, and were tied in the other one, a 3-0 loss to Minnesota.

Ben Scrivens and Ilya Bryzgalov have been exceptional in goal, and during the two regulation losses the Oilers were shutout out both times. They are winning due to goaltending which hasn't happened regularly in quite some time.

The offence has only scored 10 goals in the last seven games, and their top-six forwards need to play better.

Hall, Eberle, Perron and Yakupov have one goal each over the last seven games, while Nugent-Hopkins and Gagner have none. These six need to start producing goals.

LINEUP

Hall-Gagner-Yakupov
Perron-RNH-Eberle
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Ference-J.Schultz
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Scrivens

I like the decision to play Gagner with Hall. The Oilers need Gagner to play well down the stretch for various reasons. If they don't trade him they him need to regain some confidence, and if MacTavish is looking to move him then he needs 89 to play much better. It will be difficult to trade him for anything of value if he keeps struggling, so play him with Hall the rest of the year and hope he gets going.

I thought they might start Fasth. Usually coaches play players against their former team, and with the Kings coming in on Sunday I thought Scrivens would play then, but Eakins said he told Fasth to prepare that he is playing Sunday.

Fasth's last NHL game was November 18th. He missed 37 games with a muscle inflammation/lower body issue, but he did play four games in the AHL in February and told me on Tuesday that he is 100% healthy and ready to play.

It is hard to argue against playing Scrivens because he has been outstanding, so it does make sense to stick with the hot goalie.

Fasth is looking forward to battling for the starting job. "It is good to have two goalies competing for the job. I think it helps a team to have two guys who want to start and are capable of it," he told me Tuesday.

I love his attitude. This team needs more competition. The second line should be competing with the first line for PP and ES time. Same thing on the blueline, and it would refreshing if Fasth's attitude towards competition was embraced by all the players and the organization. 

The management, coaching and the players have to show they don't accept losing. It is easy to say you don't, but actions speak louder than words and it is time that everyone in the franchise displayed a winning attitude.

QUICK HITS...

  • The NHL's decision to lower the Devil's punishment regarding cap circumvention looks awful. Did Lou Lamoriello think this was possible at the 2012 draft, when he elected to keep the 29th overall pick instead of forfeiting it? Maybe, but today that decision still looks foolish. Currently the Devils own the 11th overall pick, and depending how the final 19 games unfold they could forfeit a top-ten pick.

  • Hemsky played junior in Hull, just outside Ottawa, but I don't think that will be enough of a reason for him to not test free agency. This year's crop of free agents forwards isn't very deep, so he could fetch a good contract in July.

  • I wrote above that yesterday was the playoff roster deadline and not the trade deadline. NHL teams can still make trades today, but the players traded aren't eligible for the postseason. If the Oilers and Sabres wanted to make a trade today or next week they could.

  • I don't understand why the NHL only allows four callups from now until the end of the season. The lottery eliminates teams from guaranteeing themselves the first overall pick, but even if they put in a rule that said you could only have three call ups on an NHL roster at one time, baring injury, after the deadline would make more sense.

    The Oilers would like to see Anton Lander, Tyler Pitlick, Taylor Fedun, Oscar Klefbom and maybe even Marc Arcobello, but based on the rules only three of them can be recalled, unless the Oilers get into serious injury troubles. (If I read CBA correctly, I think Larsen counts as one -- can anyone confirm? -- which leaves only three recalls left.) If there are only three recalls remaining, then Klefbom, Lander and Pitlick would be the three I'd want to see.

    Playing one or two NHL games can be a great learning tool for young players. It gives them a taste of the league, but more importantly they can find out how challenging the league is and what they need to work on in the off season. Players always tell themselves what they need to work on, but when they actually get to play in a game, they have a better sense of how hard it actually is and what they need to improve on to stay in the NHL.

  • The goalie situation in Calgary, Vancouver and Edmonton is very even. Today the Oilers' goalies have 79 career NHL starts, the Flames' duo has 68 career starts while the Canucks tandem has started 59 NHL games.

    Out of those six goalies: Scrivens (51), Fasth (28), Ramo (66), Ortio (2),Markstrom (38) and Lack (21) which one do you think emerges as the best goalie?

  • The Edmonton Oilers need to change their practice habits. Earlier this year Ladislav Smid said he was surprised at how intense the Flames' practices were. Today, after his first practice in Minnesota, Ilya Brzygalov said Minnesota's practices have "a way faster pace." Compile that with Barry Trotz ripping Devan Dubynk's techniques, and Ken Hitchcock saying Magnus Paajarvi needed to learn the game, I'd say this is an organizational issue. Paajarvi, Dubnyk and Smid were all here before Eakins, so the lack of intense practices and attention to detail has been an issue this year and in previous seasons.

    The Oilers, specifically MacTavish and Eakins,  need to listen to these comments from former players, take them to heart and improve the situation. If they don't improve how they practice, it will be hard to improve on game day.

TONIGHT...

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GAME DAY PREDICTION: Both of these teams would love to eventually jump into the big boys fish bowl and compete for the playoffs, and tonight the Oilers show they are at least closer to getting there than the Islanders with a 6-1 victory (they have to score at some point).

OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: ~The Islanders won't be very competitive.~ Tavares is injured while Vanek and McDonald were traded in the past 48 hours. That is three of their top-six scorers.

NOT-SO-OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: The Oilers sell out streak ends tonight. Of all the remaining home games none are less attractive to hockey fans than tonight. The surprise is that the Oilers announce that it isn't a sell out.

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#151 Anton
March 06 2014, 10:17PM
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Yeah, that's how I feel about first and second star. Both Smytty and Scrivens won this game for Oilers. As for Gagner, you need to count your blessing from Smytty and Scrivens to give you a chance to make up the mistake for that SHA.

Fire Eakins! Fire Eakins! Fire Eakins!

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#152 This is Painful
March 06 2014, 10:19PM
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dougtheslug wrote:

I hope it was sarcasm. But it was also accompanied by a game prediction of a 6-1 Oilers win.

Has it ever been this bad? I keep asking myself the same question. And I keep getting the same answer.

No. But it still keeps getting worse.

Not sure, but assumed the competitive part was a subtle jab at Oilers lack of it…

It did look bad, and then they come back and win a game they had no business winning… haha… Life of an Oiler fan…

Snowpants scores or assists on the winner…Classic end to this game.

Score was off, but I guess Gregor was right in picking winner...

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#153 Dog Train
March 06 2014, 10:20PM
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Looks like I picked a good night to miss the first two periods. Exciting finish but we won't continue to win if we continue to play for only 20 minutes a night. I actually think Fraser has really settled down the last few games. His physical play in the 3rd was a bit of a spark if you ask me.

And Scrivens, what a goalie. Obviously that save on Grabner late in regulation stands out but he also made a point blank save (can't remember on who) when it was 2-1 with about 5 minutes left. He gave us a chance to pull one out.

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#154 Rod from Viking
March 06 2014, 10:21PM
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tabs wrote:

That win could cost the Oil a higher draft pick, meaningless win.

55 minutes of horrible hockey

I know, I was being sarcastic, they are going to trade Gagner, Yakapov,Gernat and this years #1 for Tavares so it doesn't matter if they win.(lol)

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#155 Anton
March 06 2014, 10:27PM
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Dog Train wrote:

Looks like I picked a good night to miss the first two periods. Exciting finish but we won't continue to win if we continue to play for only 20 minutes a night. I actually think Fraser has really settled down the last few games. His physical play in the 3rd was a bit of a spark if you ask me.

And Scrivens, what a goalie. Obviously that save on Grabner late in regulation stands out but he also made a point blank save (can't remember on who) when it was 2-1 with about 5 minutes left. He gave us a chance to pull one out.

You missed 3-on-1 and follow by 2-on-1 in second period, which both saved by Scrivens. If Scrivens can keep playing like this for the next 2 years, MacT made a hell of a steal from Kings.

Fire Eakins! Fire Eakins! Fire Eakins!

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#156 tabs
March 06 2014, 10:33PM
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Rod from Viking wrote:

I know, I was being sarcastic, they are going to trade Gagner, Yakapov,Gernat and this years #1 for Tavares so it doesn't matter if they win.(lol)

No problem I caught the sarcasm in your original post. Gawd I hate this group of players, don't often call for a coaches head but Eakins needs a buy out at the end of the season.

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#157 Mike
March 06 2014, 10:47PM
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No problem I caught the sarcasm in your original post. Gawd I hate this group of players, don't often call for a coaches head but Eakins needs a buy out at the end of the season.

You say you hate the group of players, but then blame the coach?

How do you expect a coach to win with this sad sack group of soft, lazy, uninspired players…All Oilers fans need to wake up and realize the players aren't that good. They don't work hard enough. I'm not even an Eakins fan, but I don't blame him with this pathetic group.

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#158 Comrade GT
March 06 2014, 11:01PM
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After this much losing I don't care how it comes, I just like seeing us win.

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#159 tabs
March 06 2014, 11:14PM
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Mike wrote:

You say you hate the group of players, but then blame the coach?

How do you expect a coach to win with this sad sack group of soft, lazy, uninspired players…All Oilers fans need to wake up and realize the players aren't that good. They don't work hard enough. I'm not even an Eakins fan, but I don't blame him with this pathetic group.

Mike, for the past four years I've commented about Gagner and our core veterans and you were one of many who called me a troll and worse.

So here you are now years later lecturing me about the quality of players the Oilers employ. Who clued you in? You used to think Gagner was terrific and attacked anyone who suggested differently.

I don't wanna hear you now!

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#160 Oilers4ever
March 06 2014, 11:15PM
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You people talking about firing Eakins make me sick. This organization has had enough of the coaching carousel. These players will NEVER get better if the damn systems change every year. Fricking suck it up and deal. He's better than Quinn and Renney in my books. This team is now 7-2-2 in their last 11. I'm not saying they dont still have issues but Eakins said from the start he expected half a season or more till results started showing. Well imagine that. If we'd had Scrivens and Bryz to start the season we'd probably have 10 more wins cuz Dubynk blew that many games; thus why he's on the Habs farm team. This team wi get better. Lucky tonight sure. Give them a bit more size top 6 and a top 2 dman and they'll be fine. I doubt any of you fire the coach whiners could do a better job. You'd be coaching instead of whining if you could...

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#161 **
March 07 2014, 12:27AM
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If this team gets less emberassing it will be inspite of coaching and management.

Dallas 6-1, Canucks 1. Oilers win in ot. I feel good, nanananana, more good than I could, nanananananana....Best part was reading Luongo's tweets.

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#162 Reg Dunlop
March 07 2014, 12:29AM
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@Oilers4ever

Who runs practice? Wouldn't you guess the coach? Eakins? Interesting comments from comrade Bryz regarding how tough he found his 1st practice with the Wild. He said it was much faster paced than what he was used to. I guess Eakins wants his squad to be fresh for golf season. Sh!tcan Eakins NOW.

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#163 **
March 07 2014, 12:31AM
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"you can taste the difference quality (goaltending) makes"

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#164 bazmagoo
March 07 2014, 12:49AM
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So for the 50th or so game this season the Oilers come out with no fire. Then the competitive spirit in the players takes over, they avoid a deflating unlucky bounce, and they come back and win. And yet people still come on this site and say coaching isn't the issue. Why can't Eakins get this team playing to it's potential for 60 minutes every night?! Fire Eakins, it's so freakin' obvious he isn't the guy for the job.

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#165 Anton
March 07 2014, 01:02AM
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@Oilers4ever

Again, I've said this so many times but somehow someone still like to use "consistency" as an excuse for NOT firing a coach. So for one more time: just because we need some consistency at coaching position doesn't mean that we have to settle for BAD consistency. No one can trade the entire roster away (maybe Gillis can, still...) so it will be coach's job to bring out the best of the players. Eakins has only brought out the worst of the players, he points all fault on EVERYONE ELSE including FANS! How can you entrust someone who cannot shoulder any responsibility to lead? Not for once that he has ever admit the coaching errors which happened so many times throughout the season. You are drinking too much of Eakins' cool-aid, he is the reason why we suck so much this season. Just because Oilers have a little run for 7-2-2 which should be how this team suppose to be. In case that you missed it, we are still floating around basement of the league. That little run only prevent Oilers for being the worst team in the league again!

Fire Eakins! Fire Eakins! Fire Eakins!

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#166 Oilbaron
March 07 2014, 01:17AM
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Nice to see Hall protect the middle of the ice on the forcheck tonight instead of just gunning it into the offensive zone and leaving a lane wide open behind him like he usually does.

gotta look for the small improvements, of which there are many

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#167 Oilbaron
March 07 2014, 01:21AM
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Anton wrote:

Again, I've said this so many times but somehow someone still like to use "consistency" as an excuse for NOT firing a coach. So for one more time: just because we need some consistency at coaching position doesn't mean that we have to settle for BAD consistency. No one can trade the entire roster away (maybe Gillis can, still...) so it will be coach's job to bring out the best of the players. Eakins has only brought out the worst of the players, he points all fault on EVERYONE ELSE including FANS! How can you entrust someone who cannot shoulder any responsibility to lead? Not for once that he has ever admit the coaching errors which happened so many times throughout the season. You are drinking too much of Eakins' cool-aid, he is the reason why we suck so much this season. Just because Oilers have a little run for 7-2-2 which should be how this team suppose to be. In case that you missed it, we are still floating around basement of the league. That little run only prevent Oilers for being the worst team in the league again!

Fire Eakins! Fire Eakins! Fire Eakins!

seriously stop posting.

did you even watch the game or were you on your computer the whole time?

The team is finally starting to buy in and you want to fire the coach? You must really want McDavid.

I don't think you really understand hockey. This team has not had a real NHL coach since Mac-Tavish, and they haven't had a real GM since I don't know. Now they have both and if you can't see the changes you really aren't looking very hard.

Take a deep breath, everything will be ok. This team will get better

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#168 Anton
March 07 2014, 03:15AM
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Oilbaron wrote:

seriously stop posting.

did you even watch the game or were you on your computer the whole time?

The team is finally starting to buy in and you want to fire the coach? You must really want McDavid.

I don't think you really understand hockey. This team has not had a real NHL coach since Mac-Tavish, and they haven't had a real GM since I don't know. Now they have both and if you can't see the changes you really aren't looking very hard.

Take a deep breath, everything will be ok. This team will get better

I watched almost every game this season, the team did not buy into Eakins, it was mostly due to the great performance of Scrivens! Don't tell me the many times of 3-on-1 or 2-on-1 were part of players buying into his crap. His mistake is such a long list throughout entire season that I doubt there will be many GMs out there will ever hire him as HC.

Seriously, the 2 loses on Scrivens were both shutouts. During the 11 game stretch that Oilers gave up avg 35 shots per game! Bryz also did a wonderful job for 4 of those games. If you believe that Eakins is the reason behind the 7-2-2 stretch then you clearly give him way too much credits and give Scrivens too little. It is not coincidence that Oilers got better ever since Scrivens' arrival. Just on the contrast, the longer they keep Eakins as coach, the better chance we will get McDavid.

I do think that Mac-T is doing all right to fill up the roster but the one huge mistake is he hired Eakins. Once more, just we want some consistency, doesn't mean we have to settle with BAD consistency. The so-called "a real NHL coach" statement is so laughable, Eakins NHL coaching experience was being assistant to losing Leafs behind Maurice and Wilson. Then he coached 4 seasons at AHL for Marlies. He had two good seasons out of four with AHL Marlies. So the NHL HC experience is the 64 games he has with Oilers so far. The other so-called NHL experience that he has is 150 games played for 8 different teams. I don't think he has a clue about how NHL is actually like and this guy is coaching in NHL?

As matter of fact, for all years during MacT's stint in Edmonton, I always like him as a player and a coach. His NHL resume is so long that I do believe he will figure it out about how to be a good GM, so far I like most of his moves other than hiring Eakins. I will give credit to the one who deserve the recent resurgence, it is MacT and Scrivens. Eakins? He may want all the credits, but he should take some of those blames too. He is neither hard or soft coach, he is a gimmick coach, he is one trick pony. At nowadays that NHL players shipped out of town faster than your post service, you can't expect to have the same players on roster to run the gimmicks.

Fire Eakins! Fire Eakins! Fire Eakins!

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#169 Rob F
March 07 2014, 04:04AM
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Dave wrote:

Atleast smytty scored. It'll help Stauffer argue how amazing this team is gonna be. He'll probably tell everyone that Eakins is gonna win the jack Adams next year

I hope Stauffer does predict Eakins wining the Jack Adams

its the Stauffer curse......last time he predicted that, Kruger was fired

dont let us down Stauffer....say it!

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#170 Rob F
March 07 2014, 04:09AM
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Oilers4ever wrote:

You people talking about firing Eakins make me sick. This organization has had enough of the coaching carousel. These players will NEVER get better if the damn systems change every year. Fricking suck it up and deal. He's better than Quinn and Renney in my books. This team is now 7-2-2 in their last 11. I'm not saying they dont still have issues but Eakins said from the start he expected half a season or more till results started showing. Well imagine that. If we'd had Scrivens and Bryz to start the season we'd probably have 10 more wins cuz Dubynk blew that many games; thus why he's on the Habs farm team. This team wi get better. Lucky tonight sure. Give them a bit more size top 6 and a top 2 dman and they'll be fine. I doubt any of you fire the coach whiners could do a better job. You'd be coaching instead of whining if you could...

thanks for your input mrs eakins

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#171 Walter Sobchak
March 07 2014, 04:15AM
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Oilbaron wrote:

seriously stop posting.

did you even watch the game or were you on your computer the whole time?

The team is finally starting to buy in and you want to fire the coach? You must really want McDavid.

I don't think you really understand hockey. This team has not had a real NHL coach since Mac-Tavish, and they haven't had a real GM since I don't know. Now they have both and if you can't see the changes you really aren't looking very hard.

Take a deep breath, everything will be ok. This team will get better

Did you watch the game…………..

The Oilers were outshot again and badly out played for two straight periods.

Scrivens and his remarkable 950 SV % is the ONLY reason the Oiler's won.

Think about those three things for a second............

The Oilers rode luck here.

As for past coach’s……

I suppose Babcock and Holland think so little of Renney that the went out of their minds making him Co-coach of the Red Wings, or Babcock going out of his way to single Krueger out for his contribution to the coaching staff, or Canada hiring Krueger to scout the opposition for them and giving the coaching staff advance scouting and prep work on the other teams systems and players?

Ya………….Terrible coach’s.

This team may get better, but right now, in the present, they are not!

Think about the fans who buy season tickets at 8-K a season over the last 8 season's......... or the fans that purchase Oilers merchandise, food, beer, parking, or those fans that drive hours to game, Take a deep breath of that.

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#172 Gk1980
March 07 2014, 06:04AM
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Couple things I noticed at last nights game: - it was dead quite all game, fans not into it. Only when gretzkys face was shown - Fraser played mean, best game as an oiler - Larson is fast, maybe karlson type? - Kids invisible - Scrivens is a battler! So far so good! - Hendricks is an awesome character guy, during warm up would hoot and holler and acknowledge the fans. Cool guy!

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#173 ubermiguel
March 07 2014, 06:19AM
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Interesting tweet last night:

Dustin Nielson ‏@nielsonTSN1260 "Lots of yelling with coaches and players after the 2nd, in a good way, like brothers" - Perron

So they have a little passion left, and it showed in the third. If Perron's onto something and they start working together like 20 brothers-from-another-mother we might have a team next year.

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#174 DrunkGuyTy
March 07 2014, 06:26AM
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@Anton

I'm going to hazard a guess here that Eakins' 150 games in the NHL are about 150 more than you played.

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#175 DrunkGuyTy
March 07 2014, 06:32AM
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@Walter Sobchak

Don't kid yourself with the 'co-coach', Renny is an assistant coach to one of the best.

I'm not necessarily an Eakins fan, but you put all of the blame on him for anything bad and give him zero credit for anything good. That speaks to your credibility.

I'll take 7-2-2 in the last 11. It's not great, but its progress.

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#176 Loweblows
March 07 2014, 07:05AM
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Oilbaron wrote:

seriously stop posting.

did you even watch the game or were you on your computer the whole time?

The team is finally starting to buy in and you want to fire the coach? You must really want McDavid.

I don't think you really understand hockey. This team has not had a real NHL coach since Mac-Tavish, and they haven't had a real GM since I don't know. Now they have both and if you can't see the changes you really aren't looking very hard.

Take a deep breath, everything will be ok. This team will get better

I watched the whole game. I dont think you understand hockey. Eakins has been an absolute failure. The powerplay was again a glaring reason why Eakins must go. Fire Eakins.

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#177 Smokey
March 07 2014, 08:18AM
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Oilbaron wrote:

seriously stop posting.

did you even watch the game or were you on your computer the whole time?

The team is finally starting to buy in and you want to fire the coach? You must really want McDavid.

I don't think you really understand hockey. This team has not had a real NHL coach since Mac-Tavish, and they haven't had a real GM since I don't know. Now they have both and if you can't see the changes you really aren't looking very hard.

Take a deep breath, everything will be ok. This team will get better

There's no buy in. You could watch the games or look at the underlying stats and realize there lifeless and get outplayed. Last night they never started playing till 5 mins left in the 2nd. You can not honestly believe their bought in with the lifeless play, and continued follies on the pp.

Goaltending is the great equilizer. Ben and Bryz are responsible for this last 10 games. The beat a brutal NY team missing Tavaras, McDonald and Vanek. They got outworked most of the game, and almost coughed up the win except for a great save by Scrivens.

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#178 Smokey
March 07 2014, 08:23AM
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Gk1980 wrote:

Couple things I noticed at last nights game: - it was dead quite all game, fans not into it. Only when gretzkys face was shown - Fraser played mean, best game as an oiler - Larson is fast, maybe karlson type? - Kids invisible - Scrivens is a battler! So far so good! - Hendricks is an awesome character guy, during warm up would hoot and holler and acknowledge the fans. Cool guy!

Larson is a Karlsson type? He is lucky he is in the NHL. He's playing for a job next year, probably in the KHL.

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#179 Bob Cob
March 07 2014, 08:27AM
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Smokey wrote:

There's no buy in. You could watch the games or look at the underlying stats and realize there lifeless and get outplayed. Last night they never started playing till 5 mins left in the 2nd. You can not honestly believe their bought in with the lifeless play, and continued follies on the pp.

Goaltending is the great equilizer. Ben and Bryz are responsible for this last 10 games. The beat a brutal NY team missing Tavaras, McDonald and Vanek. They got outworked most of the game, and almost coughed up the win except for a great save by Scrivens.

Great point, "they got outworked most of the game". That is why this team will not succeed as soon as they could, they get outworked. The Flames outworked them last Saturday, they are a lazy team and that is not on the coaches. Scotty Bowman could coach this team, if they don't work, they will lose regardless of the game plan. Stop blaming Eakins, until they realize the hard work it takes to win games consistently they won't and I have to believe that comes with age and maturity.

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#180 Dave
March 07 2014, 08:39AM
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Could one of the ON staff writers please write an article on the merits of bringing up Arcobello to replace Sam Gagner.

Can we get a ON petition or something ?

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#181 Rob...
March 07 2014, 08:47AM
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Dave wrote:

Could one of the ON staff writers please write an article on the merits of bringing up Arcobello to replace Sam Gagner.

Can we get a ON petition or something ?

The article I want is a Willis breakdown of Yak's games lately. I don't know what's going on with him but the last two games he would have been better off stapled to the bench. I really hope he's just working through a bad flu or something. For that matter, I think Eberle has had the same flu for several months now.

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#182 camdog
March 07 2014, 08:57AM
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Smokey wrote:

Larson is a Karlsson type? He is lucky he is in the NHL. He's playing for a job next year, probably in the KHL.

Larsen reminds me of Grebeshkov. Not this year's Grebeshkov, but the one that was with this team 10 or so years back. Still can't figure out why we wasted that roster spot on Grebs when we had Larsen in the system...

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#183 Serious Gord
March 07 2014, 09:08AM
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Let's talk Canucks for a minute:

Looking at that team - does anyone reading this think that either the coach or GM should keep his job?

Torts has put the team into full collapse. He has clearly failed and not changed his spots. He should be fired and I bet that is the near unanimous opinion of Canucks fans.

The GM hired torts to a four year contract. Dithered and dithered on his goalies and other players. Still with three years on his deal he too should be terminated.

Has Eakins done any better than torts? The teams play and record sure don't indicate that he has. Why shouldn't he be fired?

I really dislike two things in people - cockiness and incompetence.

Eakins is a cocky incompetent coach.

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#184 pkam
March 07 2014, 09:09AM
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I remember earlier in the season when the Oilers outplayed and outshot our opponents but the opponent's goalie, and in some cases the posts, stole them a game, fans here said they would rather have a bad win than a moral victory, didn't they?

I also remember in some games we played great for 40 minutes but poorly for 20 minutes and lost the game, again they said they would rather have a win than a moral victory, didn't they?

Seems like the hockey god granted them their wish. Whether it is good goaltending or luck, we played for 20 minutes and come out with a win. No more moral victories but bad wins, isn't it what fans here wanted? And they are complaining? What should the hockey god do?

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#185 Dave
March 07 2014, 09:12AM
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Rob... wrote:

The article I want is a Willis breakdown of Yak's games lately. I don't know what's going on with him but the last two games he would have been better off stapled to the bench. I really hope he's just working through a bad flu or something. For that matter, I think Eberle has had the same flu for several months now.

OK sure but let us focus in on the biggest goat since Dubnyk left and the fact that Arcobello was mishandled by this organization.

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#186 Mike
March 07 2014, 09:28AM
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I don't know about you guys, but whenever I have had a coach that thinks we are going to win because we are going to have better fitness, it always ends up as sad as this Oilers team.

All the focus is taken away from developing the right skillsets, the teamplay, the positioning etc. Fitness for fitness sake is useless. It needs to have a functional objective. I admit I do not watch their practices but I feel Eakins is one of those coaches. "We are getting outworked therefore we are not fit enough", which probably is not true. Why are we getting outworked? Functional strength? Body positioning? Poors kating technique? Those are more than just fitness.

I don't want to put all the blame on the coach either as the players should know what's missing in their toolbox but the coach has to help them figure out how to fix it.

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#187 Dave
March 07 2014, 09:29AM
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@Serious Gord

I agree SeriousGord. Perhaps it is just me but his interviews really get on my nerves. Most "student of the game" coaches don't pontificate before the media. They just coach.

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#188 camdog
March 07 2014, 09:34AM
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Serious Gord wrote:

Let's talk Canucks for a minute:

Looking at that team - does anyone reading this think that either the coach or GM should keep his job?

Torts has put the team into full collapse. He has clearly failed and not changed his spots. He should be fired and I bet that is the near unanimous opinion of Canucks fans.

The GM hired torts to a four year contract. Dithered and dithered on his goalies and other players. Still with three years on his deal he too should be terminated.

Has Eakins done any better than torts? The teams play and record sure don't indicate that he has. Why shouldn't he be fired?

I really dislike two things in people - cockiness and incompetence.

Eakins is a cocky incompetent coach.

The Canucks are exactly were I expected them to be this off season. They no longer play in the easiest division in all of hockey, the Sedin's have lost a step and there drafting/development of young players has been horrible over Gillis' regime. Don't matter what coach they hired, this is where most expected them to be...

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#189 camdog
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Mike wrote:

I don't know about you guys, but whenever I have had a coach that thinks we are going to win because we are going to have better fitness, it always ends up as sad as this Oilers team.

All the focus is taken away from developing the right skillsets, the teamplay, the positioning etc. Fitness for fitness sake is useless. It needs to have a functional objective. I admit I do not watch their practices but I feel Eakins is one of those coaches. "We are getting outworked therefore we are not fit enough", which probably is not true. Why are we getting outworked? Functional strength? Body positioning? Poors kating technique? Those are more than just fitness.

I don't want to put all the blame on the coach either as the players should know what's missing in their toolbox but the coach has to help them figure out how to fix it.

Eakins entire philosophy to start the season was deeply flawed, from the fitness regime to the swarm. For players like Hemsky, Gagner, Eberle, Perron and RNH it's not just their fitness that limits their ability to play 22 to 25 minutes it's their physical strength as well.

You can have the best fitness in the world, however if you get thrown in the boxing ring, and get pounded on for 2 minutes you are going to get worn out. Of course this doesn't mean you are not in shape. Problem is I don't think Eakins understood this when he took over this team.

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#190 pkam
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Dave wrote:

OK sure but let us focus in on the biggest goat since Dubnyk left and the fact that Arcobello was mishandled by this organization.

I believe Acro was sent down to OKC to help them compete for a playoff spot. OKC is very weak in offense and desperately needs offensive help.

I believe the only Oilers forwards that can be sent down there wihtout going thru waiver are Acro and Yak.

If I remember correctly, OKC was 13th in the west conference and 11 points out of playoff before Acro joined them. Now they are 9th and 2 points out (Milwaukee Admirals is 8th with 2 games in hand though).

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#191 merfer
March 07 2014, 09:55AM
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Unfortunately we need a good draft choice this year if we ever plan on being competive with Colorado. McKinnon is a real beast and will only get better. They have been able to draft more domiant players with their recent drafts and I'm not sure we will ever be able to beat them out if we were to reach a conference final. They are definately the team of the future. They look very well positioned to be dominant in two or three years. The Oilers on the other hand look to very far away from just making the playoff, more over making a conference final. Colorado really scares me.

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#192 Mike Modano's Dog
March 07 2014, 10:03AM
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I think what all those instances show is that we haven't had quality organizational management for a long time. It is no wonder that so few of oh. Prospects haven't turned out over the years. If you want change - you have to be willing to change.

The management, from the top on down, all the assistant coaches - all should have to be accountable for that.

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#193 Gk1980
March 07 2014, 12:13PM
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Smokey wrote:

Larson is a Karlsson type? He is lucky he is in the NHL. He's playing for a job next year, probably in the KHL.

Serious? Maybe not a karlson but he is scoring goals, he has potential. I wouldn't give up on this guy just yet.

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#194 Ryan2
March 07 2014, 12:31PM
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It will be interesting to see how high the ceiling is with Marincin. He was dangling the puck nicely last night and is now starting to show his offensive instincts. It is great that they have brought him along slowly. With his combination of size, skill, skating, and hockey sense, he may end up becoming a top pairing d-man that the team is sorely lacking.......

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#195 BobbyCanuck
March 07 2014, 01:50PM
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Back to the Lotto.

Please shed some light or correct me if I am wrong.

Until last year, I have always been of the opinion that if the player is not in the big show, I really do not care to hear about them. Just recently have I started to pay attention to junior development and draft.

On draft day it is customary for teams interested in a player to interview said player to get a feel for fit, personality etc.

How hard would it be for a player to blow the interview, therefore making the interviewer feel that this player is not a good fit?

I have gassed more interviews then I care to admit, for positions that I was actually keen on getting.

For example if Ekblad said to the Oilers: 'Ya go ahead and draft me, but I promise you once my entry level contract is over, I will be moving along'

Would we still draft him?

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#196 Walter Sobchak
March 07 2014, 05:06PM
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DrunkGuyTy wrote:

Don't kid yourself with the 'co-coach', Renny is an assistant coach to one of the best.

I'm not necessarily an Eakins fan, but you put all of the blame on him for anything bad and give him zero credit for anything good. That speaks to your credibility.

I'll take 7-2-2 in the last 11. It's not great, but its progress.

Explain to me where I mention Eakins in that post?

No, Renney is NOT an assistant coach, the Red Wings have those, he IS the co-coach.

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#197 Wonger
March 07 2014, 06:09PM
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GREAT GAME MARK FRASER!!!! Please lock this gentleman up for at least 3 more years MACT! He is a perfect 5-6-7 D! He even scares me in the warm up! HE LOOKS TOUGH AND IS TOUGH AS NAILS!!!!!!!! GO MARK FRASER!!!!

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#198 camdog
March 07 2014, 06:35PM
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Ryan2 wrote:

It will be interesting to see how high the ceiling is with Marincin. He was dangling the puck nicely last night and is now starting to show his offensive instincts. It is great that they have brought him along slowly. With his combination of size, skill, skating, and hockey sense, he may end up becoming a top pairing d-man that the team is sorely lacking.......

They didn't really bring him up slowly. They got him up as quick as they could. As to his ceiling well he could potentially end up being the best d-man in the system, with young d-man you just never know.

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#199 Anton
March 08 2014, 02:51AM
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Not to be a buzzkill here, but unless Scrivens is having another demigod like performances that I am expecting another 4 game losing streak.

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#200 Anton
March 08 2014, 02:51AM
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Ah, forgot this:

Fire Eakins! Fire Eakins! Fire Eakins!

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