GDB 65.0: ANYONE FEEL A DRAFT?

Lowetide
March 09 2014 10:33AM

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The Los Angeles Kings roll into Edmonton tonight, in search of two points and a healthy roster at minute 60. The Oilers? Evaluating the recalls, making sure next year's goalie tandem doesn't spring a leak, and trying to straighten out the ghastly power play.

In February I looked at the lottery section of the  2014 Entry draft

  1. D Aaron Ekblad
  2. C Sam Reinhart
  3. C Sam Bennett
  4. C Leon Draisaitl
  5. L Michael Dal Colle
  6. L Jake Virtanen
  7. C Ivan Barbashev

It's time to add another name, we'll call him #8 on the list: RW David Pastrnak. Each year I look for a name (near springtime) to emerge from the Europeans and for 2014 I believe it's Pastrnak.

  • Craig Button: Pastrnak's ability to challenge defenders with his skating from both straight-ahead and darting positions makes him dangerous. He has very good hands and is always looking to create scoring opportunities.

If the season ended today, Edmonton would be drafting 2nd overall (I believe they'll pass the Islanders and the Panthers). I also believe they'll be happy with any of the top 4 names above, and that there's a slight chance Ekblad is not chosen #1 overall. It's a very interesting top of the draft board currently.

My bet for Oilers pick: Ekblad if they can make a move draft day, Draisaitl any other way.

TRADING SAMWISE

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After the trade deadline passed without a second or third-round selection coming to Edmonton, I think there's an increased chance we see Sam Gagner dealt for picks (or a pick and a player). Bruce Garrioch talks about NHL teams holding their high picks more dear at the deadline here. 

If the Oilers deal Gagner for a second and a third at the draft, I'm absolutely certain many Oiler fans will be up in arms. However, the Gagner money ($4.8M) may be better spent on a free-agent defender (possibly Brooks Orpik or Andrei Markov) or in trade for Braydon Coburn or Christian Ehrhoff.

Gagner for Ehrhoff works too, but the Oilers may have to offload the Gagner contract and then pursue a player with the cash in hand.

LINEUP

Hall-Gagner-Yakupov
Perron-RNH-Eberle
Hendricks-Gordon-Joensuu
Gazdic-Smyth-Jones

Ference-J.Schultz
Marincin-Petry
Fraser-Larsen

Scrivens

WESTCOTT KEL

I've lifted this from the last GDT, the two recalls won't play. Both men are on emergency recall, so we'll see how it rolls. Edmonton is down to three recalls available now (Larsen being the first) so at least three of the guys in OKC we thought we would see won't be here this season.

TONIGHT

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PREDICTION: Scrivens stops 50 and the Oilers win 2-1. Team takes Scrivens out for fries and a Coke after the game.

OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: Los Angeles will dominate entire shifts.

NOT-SO-OBVIOUS PREDICTION: Ryan Nugent-Hopkins breaks out of his slump with both goals—on the power play!


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#1 nuge2nail
March 09 2014, 10:53AM
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Oiler Domination To Follow

I would be happy with any of the top 3. Bennett's the grittiest, Ekblad fills the teams biggest need.

Watching McKinnon play, I am starting to think Oilers ruin prospects, even if they are 1st overalls.

Hearing guys like Bryz and Smid say they are "shocked" at the intensity and speed of other teams practices is very concerning.

Is it possible Hall would be a consistant 40 goal scorer on another team? Hopkins would be a league leader in +-? We all know how good Yakupov was before spending a year with the Oilers.

There's a chance no matter how good Reinhert or Bennett are they will not perform on this team... As an Oilers fan that's devastating.

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#2 Oiler Al
March 09 2014, 11:14AM
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Any chance that Eakins is history at the end of this season, along with the other two statues behind the bench.?

Its troubling when you hear comments about the lack of intensity in the teams practice habits! More than one source, must be something to it. However, non of the Edmonton scribes dare do a research and write up on this issue.

Heck there were times when Eakins was in the stands during practice... to big to communicate to the players.

Also: Why does he always send out the 4 th line after a [rare] goal is scored. Should send a line that can build on the momentum of the game.

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#3 Rod from Viking
March 09 2014, 09:06PM
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Just listened to Eakins post game, does he think we are blind and dumb? He has never seen a mic he didn't like.

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#4 Randaman
March 09 2014, 11:40AM
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Watching the Red Wings & Rangers. If you want to see a real coach in action check out Babcock. He is in constant communication with his assistants and players. Eakins is in way over his head. Fire his a$$ along with Puqueberger & Smith. This is the number one issue but MacT will have to swallow his pride and get Batmans permission when it comes to the pathetic assistants.

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#5 Toro
March 09 2014, 09:27PM
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Wonder if Kevin Lowe still thinks half the league would swap rosters with us because I would be all over that!

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#6 Total Points
March 09 2014, 11:07AM
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I can not believe that Gagner is still on the first line.

Arco should have taken his place before Christmas and Gagner should have been placed on waivers (nobody would have picked him up on waivers) and then banished to the press box until he figures out how play the game.

It is hard to believe that MacT and 6 rings actually considered him as Captain. Goes to show how out of touch these 2 are.

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#7 Butters
March 09 2014, 06:48PM
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Shaun wrote:

Oilers should draft Leon Draisaitl if he is available when the Oilers pick

Eckblad.?..Is that you?

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#8 Rod from Viking
March 09 2014, 08:54PM
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RexHolez wrote:

Call me unimpressed with this team, this rebuild and this management. I guess accountability is only for players.

A select few players.

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#9 Oiltown3000
March 09 2014, 11:28AM
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nuge2nail wrote:

Oiler Domination To Follow

I would be happy with any of the top 3. Bennett's the grittiest, Ekblad fills the teams biggest need.

Watching McKinnon play, I am starting to think Oilers ruin prospects, even if they are 1st overalls.

Hearing guys like Bryz and Smid say they are "shocked" at the intensity and speed of other teams practices is very concerning.

Is it possible Hall would be a consistant 40 goal scorer on another team? Hopkins would be a league leader in +-? We all know how good Yakupov was before spending a year with the Oilers.

There's a chance no matter how good Reinhert or Bennett are they will not perform on this team... As an Oilers fan that's devastating.

The reasons for bad development:

a) Too many Coach changes

b) No veterans too help the players learn

c) No bodyguard for the players

d) Not a good assistant or goalie coach

e) Rushing the players to the NHL

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#10 dougtheslug
March 09 2014, 07:50PM
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Rod from Viking wrote:

Lander and Klefbom in the press box, please send us back to OKC so we can play for a good AHL team.

On that note, another 2 points for Arcobello in an OT win over Rochester tonight.

Two callups are required immediately: Arco for Gagner, and Todd Nelson for Eakins

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#11 Jeffff
March 09 2014, 08:59PM
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Funny how fans are when Oilers win a game against non playoff teams, they get excited and think only a few more players. Well today Oilers faced a real playoff team that need to win. Why are the fans surprised at the results . 8 YEARS and still fans are fooled.

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#12 vetinari
March 09 2014, 09:33PM
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Don't mind losing to a superior team, but really, the PP is still non-existent, we still give up 50 shots, and we still get badly out chanced on home ice. This isn't month two of the regular season, it's month six-- what the heck is Eakins doing with these guys to fix these problems? Doing more of the same isn't working. Where's the innovation and skills development? Where's the accountability? Where's the teaching and motivation? Even Eakin's interviews are just a rehash of what he's said before... try something new boys...

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#13 Randaman
March 09 2014, 11:25AM
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Is there at least one reporter in this city that will call out this organization for what it is? It's not like the games are all that great to attend anyway or is it more of a status thing to flash that press pass around?

Homers!!

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#14 RexHolez
March 09 2014, 08:52PM
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Call me unimpressed with this team, this rebuild and this management. I guess accountability is only for players.

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#15 nuge2nail
March 09 2014, 11:02AM
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Oiler Domination To Follow

An example of the above is Ales Hemsky and Andrew Cogliano.

4 points playing on the top line with the Sens already, can blame Eakins but on our top line he wouldnt have performed.

Good for Hemsky, happy for him, wish him all the best, but crappy for the Oilers.

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#16 mlcselli
March 09 2014, 12:22PM
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Oiler Al wrote:

Any chance that Eakins is history at the end of this season, along with the other two statues behind the bench.?

Its troubling when you hear comments about the lack of intensity in the teams practice habits! More than one source, must be something to it. However, non of the Edmonton scribes dare do a research and write up on this issue.

Heck there were times when Eakins was in the stands during practice... to big to communicate to the players.

Also: Why does he always send out the 4 th line after a [rare] goal is scored. Should send a line that can build on the momentum of the game.

I remember a radio interview Lowe gave when Renney was not renewed. He said the onus is on the GM when it comes to the future of the head coach, but the exit interviews from the players, regarding the coach, weighs heavily into the decision. For the benefit of the team and the fans, hopefully the players give a scathing review (Ference won't because he is an ass kisser), and MacT realizes he bet on the wrong horse. If an experienced guy like Laviolette os Sutter…coached the Oilers, we would have a system that everyone can learn in a timely manner. This season is over 60 games old, and the boys still don't have a clue. Coaching is the problem without a doubt.

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#17 Ari Gold
March 09 2014, 10:47AM
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I feel completely embarrassed to be talking about the draft yet again. This game is honestly not even worth watching.

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#18 Spydyr
March 09 2014, 11:29AM
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Oiltown3000 wrote:

The reasons for bad development:

a) Too many Coach changes

b) No veterans too help the players learn

c) No bodyguard for the players

d) Not a good assistant or goalie coach

e) Rushing the players to the NHL

The reasons for bad development:

a)"The braintrust"

Fixed it for you.

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#19 Max
March 09 2014, 12:42PM
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We can only hope that the coaching staff held a more intense practice today - oops sorry, I forgot it was only an OPTIONAL skate. Given our position in the standings, I would have thought practices should be mandatory AND intense. Still, what do I know, I'm only a fan and an armchair coach.

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#20 Ari Gold
March 09 2014, 10:02PM
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I just watched the 1st period and I'm glad that's all. It was brutally obvious that LA was on a completely different level, a playoff level. The Oilers looked like an AHL team out there.

The Kings were organized and had amazing puck support. The Oilers always seemed to be way too stretched out and had little puck support. It's honestly not even fun to watch. Hall scored a great goal in the first but I don't expect much more than 30 seconds of brilliance from this team, night in night out. A few of the Kings goals were lucky, but eventually a couple trickle in when you get 50 shots in a game. The Oilers surrendered 50 shots to a team struggling to score! Ridiculous.

I hold no pride in saying that I was there, supporting the team, in the darkest of times. That's just foolish. Why would I chose to be unhappy every second night? There are more productive things to do. I'm happy to come back to the team when they show that they actually want our support. Until then, it's pure insanity to cheer for this team with unquestioned loyalty. People walk away from marriages for less.

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#21 Wyatt
March 09 2014, 01:57PM
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TeddyTurnbuckle wrote:

No way Oilers take Draisaitl if they are picking top three. Bennet and Reinhart are way too good. Who cares about size when they are easily the best forwards in the draft. Either one of these guys would set the Oilers up at center for 15 years.

Who cares about size...? If you've been watching the oilers for the past 7 years you would know that statement is ludacris.

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#22 Taylor Gang
March 09 2014, 03:24PM
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I love how Lowe just says he knows about winning as if it makes a difference. I could say I'm best friends with Nail Yakupov but that doesn't mean it's true.

What achievements does Lowe have under his belt that would suggest he knows anything about "winning"? He has to be the most narcissistic, delusional, bird brained moron in the world of hockey. The only person who knows how to run an organization worse than 6 rings is Mike Milbury, and its close too.

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#23 Spydyr
March 09 2014, 03:33PM
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samurai003 wrote:

Careful Guys...when someone leaves their current position, eventually it leads to a management promotion, like MacT and Howson.

It's interesting on the basic stats of these three: Howson: ran CBJ into the ground, and now they are in the playoff race. Only been with the Oilers and CBJ. Maybe no other takers for his services except KBlowe.

MacT: As a failed coach with Oilers, and Chicago Wolves(AHL), TSN pickup him for a short stint. Only to leave that post for a promotion - with the Oilers. No other NHL takers except for KBlowe.

KBlowe: No management experience except with the Oilers - he's successfully been golfing in April for 9 (soon to be 10) years since 2000, the year he was given an office as GM. He works on his golf skills more than his management skills.

Lowe must one awesome golfer by now.My question is where do you get golf gloves big enough to fit over all those rings?

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#24 Jeffff
March 09 2014, 12:56PM
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You can't have good environment after being the worst team in the NHL for the last 8 years.

Oilers do ruin players. I can't see much changing . Every year has been wait until next year. Well here we are again. With the amount of #1 picks and high picks in the last 8 years and Edmonton is sitting in 29th place. How is that hope and change working?

Edmonton we have a problem

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#25 Al Low
March 09 2014, 11:30PM
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Rod from Viking wrote:

Just listened to Eakins post game, does he think we are blind and dumb? He has never seen a mic he didn't like.

The smugness of Eakins is such a turn off. I'd understand if the team was any good but he's an egomaniac for no reason. This guy loves to hear himself talk. I know the team's not good enough but I can't blame them for quiting on this blowhard.

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#26 Czar
March 09 2014, 04:11PM
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@Taylor Gang

The only person who knows how to run an organization worse than 6 rings is Mike Milbury, and its close too.

Snow has to be given some consideration as well,with Gillis in contention soon.

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#27 dougtheslug
March 09 2014, 07:40PM
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Gk1980 wrote:

Soooo....when are they going to start covering the point and not run around like a bunch if idiots? Boys against men or Scrivens against LA. Size is an issue but some smart plays and you could attempt to counter that. Boys look lost out there. They give LA too much respect.

Boys look lost most nights. They don't look much different tonight than they have for the past couple of months.

Only difference is pucks that were bouncing into Scrivens for the past month are bouncing by him tonight.

This is what a half decade of Lowe led rebuilding looks like.

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#28 Spoils
March 09 2014, 09:08PM
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3 apples for Hemmer against the jets on Saturday, and he had the 3rd pass on one of the other goals. Nice to see.

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#29 samurai003
March 09 2014, 01:56PM
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Oiler Al wrote:

Any chance that Eakins is history at the end of this season, along with the other two statues behind the bench.?

Its troubling when you hear comments about the lack of intensity in the teams practice habits! More than one source, must be something to it. However, non of the Edmonton scribes dare do a research and write up on this issue.

Heck there were times when Eakins was in the stands during practice... to big to communicate to the players.

Also: Why does he always send out the 4 th line after a [rare] goal is scored. Should send a line that can build on the momentum of the game.

Careful Guys...when someone leaves their current position, eventually it leads to a management promotion, like MacT and Howson.

It's interesting on the basic stats of these three: Howson: ran CBJ into the ground, and now they are in the playoff race. Only been with the Oilers and CBJ. Maybe no other takers for his services except KBlowe.

MacT: As a failed coach with Oilers, and Chicago Wolves(AHL), TSN pickup him for a short stint. Only to leave that post for a promotion - with the Oilers. No other NHL takers except for KBlowe.

KBlowe: No management experience except with the Oilers - he's successfully been golfing in April for 9 (soon to be 10) years since 2000, the year he was given an office as GM. He works on his golf skills more than his management skills.

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#30 Dave
March 09 2014, 08:29PM
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Another display of what 5 years of rebuilding gets you

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#31 Spydyr
March 09 2014, 11:11AM
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nuge2nail wrote:

Oiler Domination To Follow

I would be happy with any of the top 3. Bennett's the grittiest, Ekblad fills the teams biggest need.

Watching McKinnon play, I am starting to think Oilers ruin prospects, even if they are 1st overalls.

Hearing guys like Bryz and Smid say they are "shocked" at the intensity and speed of other teams practices is very concerning.

Is it possible Hall would be a consistant 40 goal scorer on another team? Hopkins would be a league leader in +-? We all know how good Yakupov was before spending a year with the Oilers.

There's a chance no matter how good Reinhert or Bennett are they will not perform on this team... As an Oilers fan that's devastating.

Well you don't just get to end up out of the playoffs for eight years ,most as a lotto team by having intense up tempo practices. It takes an team effort to be that bad for that long.

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#32 Naky
March 09 2014, 02:27PM
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@Serious Gord

The way you keep going on and on about Gagner's contract makes you look a bit silly. Gagner's not that drastically overpaid as a guy who has routinely put up 40-50 points a year on the worst team in the league every year since he joined the Oilers. In that guy's scenario, look up Myers contract and tell me that he's worth the full 5.5m per year right now. Here's a hint: it's not at all. In that situation, the Oilers shouldn't have to eat anything and if they did, the amount would be so little it'd be laughable. For crying out loud, Vancouver managed to trade Roberto's contract without eating hardly anything and that contract's far worse than Gagner's.

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#33 Rod from Viking
March 09 2014, 07:56PM
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dougtheslug wrote:

On that note, another 2 points for Arcobello in an OT win over Rochester tonight.

Two callups are required immediately: Arco for Gagner, and Todd Nelson for Eakins

And Rockey Thompson for Bucky, bring up there play by play team as well and send the Sportsnet team down there on non-recallable waivers.

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#34 Stack Pad Save
March 09 2014, 10:43AM
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Nuge!!!!!!!

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#35 Naky
March 09 2014, 12:27PM
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If Sam Gagner is traded just for a 2nd and a 3rd draft round pick, it would be time to start throwing molotovs at that Oilers office downtown. No matter how negatively he's looked at here, he's a perennial 40-50 point player on the perennial worst team in the league. He's worth more than a prospect that might make our team on the fourth line in four years like Lander and a prospect that probably never will in a third.

A 3-4 d-man who has either been overshadowed by some younger prospects and has that dreaded extra year of term/extra million on the contract that the team is happy to offload for. You know, almost all the same reasons why some want to get rid of Gagner. We need bodies back, not draft picks in a weak drafting year.

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#36 The Real Scuba Steve
March 09 2014, 12:54PM
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Another year and lottery draft. I guess the draft is the Oiler equivalent of playoffs. We are the champs at slipping in at the big pick. If they gave first draft pick rings, Kevin Lowe wouldn't have enough fingers to accomindate all these rings.

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#37 Quicksilver ballet
March 09 2014, 03:06PM
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Great couple weeks ahead for the Ekblad or bust enthusiasts. Should be able to pad that 29th place lead we hold right now. Only ones in doubt are the Horriblcanes and the Sabres if they want to take a run at 30th.

Doesn't take any skill to belly up to the lotto pick bar and sit there till someone pulls you out of the gutter. Lowe knows a lot about losing. He's running out of rope as far as the blame game goes.

This Eakins experiment will only confirm their incompetence. 4-zip Kings please.

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#38 Yaz
March 09 2014, 12:42PM
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Oiler Al wrote:

Any chance that Eakins is history at the end of this season, along with the other two statues behind the bench.?

Its troubling when you hear comments about the lack of intensity in the teams practice habits! More than one source, must be something to it. However, non of the Edmonton scribes dare do a research and write up on this issue.

Heck there were times when Eakins was in the stands during practice... to big to communicate to the players.

Also: Why does he always send out the 4 th line after a [rare] goal is scored. Should send a line that can build on the momentum of the game.

Exactly, too much ego and not enough coaching. I suspect we'll keep Eakins into October 2014 when he is canned after a 1-10 start. Everybody sees it coming except 6 rings and Mac.T who is saving his own ego and hoping to hell Eakins can pull a rabbit out of his ass.

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#39 Spydyr
March 09 2014, 10:43AM
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Another year picking fist.Don't know whether to laugh or cry.

Edit: Missed it by that much.

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#40 Anton
March 09 2014, 04:38PM
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I was hoping that they would start Vasth instead of Scrivens, it is usually a disadvantage to have a goalie play against his former team. To be honest that I am not expecting Scrivens to steal this game for Oilers.

Kings 4 Oilers 0

Fire Eakins! Fire Eakins! Fire Eakins!

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#41 risto siltanen's slapshot
March 09 2014, 10:50PM
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Andrew wrote:

Are you talking about Ryan Nothing-Hopkins? Ryan Nugent-Hopkins lost his nerve and left town. Another over-valued under-performing star-child.

the nuge is one of the soldiers.he does what the coach wants.we've turned a scorer into horcoff.we tried with cogliano and we're even trying with yakupov.sometimes it is the coach.can't wait to get a real one and see what the talent can do.until...

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#42 Oilers42
March 09 2014, 11:05AM
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I don't see us passing islanders and flames as they have fairly easy schedules for the rest of the year and Luongo will keep Florida winning some games so I think 1.Sabres-Reinhart 2.Oilers-Ekblad 3.Islanders-Bennet 4.Flames-Dal Colle 5.Florida-Drasital

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#43 Rick Stroppel
March 09 2014, 02:03PM
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Serious Gord wrote:

Lowetide:

"If the season ended today, Edmonton would be drafting 2nd overall (I believe they'll pass the Islanders and the Panthers). "

1- isn't it a lottery for the top five? If so then there is no guarantee that finishing second last gets you the #2 pick.

2. Almost impossible for the oil to catch either of those two teams - the oil have a far tougher schedule.

As for the gagner trade discussion - no way anyone gives up a second and a third unless the oil are allowed to buy up a huge percentage of his contract (and keep that chunk of cap room. And the oil doesn't need more picks - it needs real nhl ready players. Thus the best route would be to trade the underperforming, negative value gagner for another underperforming negative value player who has a skill set that better addresses the oils needs.

RE LOTTERY

Literallly any team that misses the playoffs could win the # 1 pick in the new system that started last year. The 30 the place team has a 25% chance, 29th has 18.8 %, 28th has 14.2 %, down to the 15th place team (missing the playoffs by one spot) which has a 0.5 % chance of picking first overall. The only pick that is subject to the lottery is # 1 pick. Google NHL Draft Lottery for more info.

WHAT COULD HAPPEN TO GAGNER

Buffalo finishes last overall, wins the lottery, drafts Ekblad, trades now superfluous Tyler Myers to Edmonton for Gagner. Both players flourish in their new homes.

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#44 Dave
March 09 2014, 03:21PM
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Gagner for a second and third?? You nuts LT?? If hemmer got a third and fifth I can't see getting any better for gagner with his over inflated contract

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#45 Taylor Gang
March 09 2014, 03:49PM
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Sevenseven wrote:

Gagners play of late has been a little better, but not close to where it needs to be. That being said, 4.5 million a year is not that horrible of cap hit. Horcoffs cap hit was much worse, and we got a fair trade for him. The only way the oilers should have to take a cap hit is if we get something juicy in return. But trading a vastly underperforming, but veteran nhler for pics is a dumb move for the oilers. I think Sam sees the writing on the wall. He better get his game back together, cause Arco and Lander are making a case for his job. I like watching players play for their job. I wish we had another top 6 rw prospect to push ebs and yak to play better.

Gagner's cap hit is 4.9 million, and Horcoff netted Edmonton virtually nothing in return. The Oilers would never make it in the stock market with their buy high, sell lowe (pun intended).

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#46 Rod from Viking
March 09 2014, 07:42PM
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Lander and Klefbom in the press box, please send us back to OKC so we can play for a good AHL team.

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#47 Rod from Viking
March 09 2014, 08:46PM
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dougtheslug wrote:

I think Quinn called Quick, "Scrivens" about four times tonight.

Size 52 blaser, size 1 hat Lou Debrusk only mentioned "Blue Paint" six times tonight, that must be a record.

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#48 Alex Mathis
March 09 2014, 02:52PM
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I can't understand why Eakins continous to play Smyth at Centre. Move him to the wing (3rd or 4th line) and let Arcobello, Lander or even Hendricks play instead.

We already did the same mistake last year. I also question Joenssu and Jones, they didn't have much impact the last couple of games. Or how did Eakins say: Accountability is what matters...

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#49 Andrew
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Are you talking about Ryan Nothing-Hopkins? Ryan Nugent-Hopkins lost his nerve and left town. Another over-valued under-performing star-child.

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#50 Stack Pad Save
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Do the Oilers have to play the emergency recalls?????

I really want to see the final games the year put to some actual purpose to evaluate what we actually have in guys like Lander, Klefbom and Pitlick.

I want to know what the Oilers have at the NHL level in Pitlick, he strikes me as the kind of player who excels in better games, i.e. he will be a better player at the NHL level than the AHL level. I have no proof for this, but I liked what I saw before he got hurt in the NHL at the start of the season.

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