GDB 65.0: ANYONE FEEL A DRAFT?

Lowetide
March 09 2014 10:33AM

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The Los Angeles Kings roll into Edmonton tonight, in search of two points and a healthy roster at minute 60. The Oilers? Evaluating the recalls, making sure next year's goalie tandem doesn't spring a leak, and trying to straighten out the ghastly power play.

In February I looked at the lottery section of the  2014 Entry draft

  1. D Aaron Ekblad
  2. C Sam Reinhart
  3. C Sam Bennett
  4. C Leon Draisaitl
  5. L Michael Dal Colle
  6. L Jake Virtanen
  7. C Ivan Barbashev

It's time to add another name, we'll call him #8 on the list: RW David Pastrnak. Each year I look for a name (near springtime) to emerge from the Europeans and for 2014 I believe it's Pastrnak.

  • Craig Button: Pastrnak's ability to challenge defenders with his skating from both straight-ahead and darting positions makes him dangerous. He has very good hands and is always looking to create scoring opportunities.

If the season ended today, Edmonton would be drafting 2nd overall (I believe they'll pass the Islanders and the Panthers). I also believe they'll be happy with any of the top 4 names above, and that there's a slight chance Ekblad is not chosen #1 overall. It's a very interesting top of the draft board currently.

My bet for Oilers pick: Ekblad if they can make a move draft day, Draisaitl any other way.

TRADING SAMWISE

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After the trade deadline passed without a second or third-round selection coming to Edmonton, I think there's an increased chance we see Sam Gagner dealt for picks (or a pick and a player). Bruce Garrioch talks about NHL teams holding their high picks more dear at the deadline here. 

If the Oilers deal Gagner for a second and a third at the draft, I'm absolutely certain many Oiler fans will be up in arms. However, the Gagner money ($4.8M) may be better spent on a free-agent defender (possibly Brooks Orpik or Andrei Markov) or in trade for Braydon Coburn or Christian Ehrhoff.

Gagner for Ehrhoff works too, but the Oilers may have to offload the Gagner contract and then pursue a player with the cash in hand.

LINEUP

Hall-Gagner-Yakupov
Perron-RNH-Eberle
Hendricks-Gordon-Joensuu
Gazdic-Smyth-Jones

Ference-J.Schultz
Marincin-Petry
Fraser-Larsen

Scrivens

WESTCOTT KEL

I've lifted this from the last GDT, the two recalls won't play. Both men are on emergency recall, so we'll see how it rolls. Edmonton is down to three recalls available now (Larsen being the first) so at least three of the guys in OKC we thought we would see won't be here this season.

TONIGHT

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PREDICTION: Scrivens stops 50 and the Oilers win 2-1. Team takes Scrivens out for fries and a Coke after the game.

OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: Los Angeles will dominate entire shifts.

NOT-SO-OBVIOUS PREDICTION: Ryan Nugent-Hopkins breaks out of his slump with both goals—on the power play!


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#51 Serious Gord
March 09 2014, 06:07PM
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Naky wrote:

@Serious Gord

The way you keep going on and on about Gagner's contract makes you look a bit silly. Gagner's not that drastically overpaid as a guy who has routinely put up 40-50 points a year on the worst team in the league every year since he joined the Oilers. In that guy's scenario, look up Myers contract and tell me that he's worth the full 5.5m per year right now. Here's a hint: it's not at all. In that situation, the Oilers shouldn't have to eat anything and if they did, the amount would be so little it'd be laughable. For crying out loud, Vancouver managed to trade Roberto's contract without eating hardly anything and that contract's far worse than Gagner's.

Van is on the hook for 15% of his salary (and cap) plus if he retires or gets injured they have to eat whatever is left on his contract. In return they got a failing goalie prospect. And even then it can be argued that Florida gave away too much.

Gagner isn't just about numbers - it's about how he plays without the puck and several other issues. MacT paid far more than he's worth and he's going to have to take similar negative value back in return.

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#52 Stack Pad Save
March 09 2014, 10:46AM
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Do the Oilers have to play the emergency recalls?????

I really want to see the final games the year put to some actual purpose to evaluate what we actually have in guys like Lander, Klefbom and Pitlick.

I want to know what the Oilers have at the NHL level in Pitlick, he strikes me as the kind of player who excels in better games, i.e. he will be a better player at the NHL level than the AHL level. I have no proof for this, but I liked what I saw before he got hurt in the NHL at the start of the season.

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#53 Oilers42
March 09 2014, 11:05AM
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I don't see us passing islanders and flames as they have fairly easy schedules for the rest of the year and Luongo will keep Florida winning some games so I think 1.Sabres-Reinhart 2.Oilers-Ekblad 3.Islanders-Bennet 4.Flames-Dal Colle 5.Florida-Drasital

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#54 Spydyr
March 09 2014, 11:28AM
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Randaman wrote:

Is there at least one reporter in this city that will call out this organization for what it is? It's not like the games are all that great to attend anyway or is it more of a status thing to flash that press pass around?

Homers!!

Eakins already took their donuts away.If any fall out of line the hammer will fall.Just ask the guy handing out stickers at a bar across town from Rexall.

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#55 Spydyr
March 09 2014, 11:29AM
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Oiltown3000 wrote:

The reasons for bad development:

a) Too many Coach changes

b) No veterans too help the players learn

c) No bodyguard for the players

d) Not a good assistant or goalie coach

e) Rushing the players to the NHL

The reasons for bad development:

a)"The braintrust"

Fixed it for you.

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#56 THE PUZ
March 09 2014, 12:22PM
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The "strategy" of management seems to be letting proven NHL players, including first rounders like Hemsky & Gagner, leave for late round draft choices to "restock our shelves". These prospects statistically will never step foot in the NHL, especially with our bush-league scouting staff. The same trend of losing will continue as long as the vision of Lowe & MacT remain. We have needed tough top 6 NHL forwards , a starting goalie (not multiple backups) and legitimate NHL defencemen for years. Oiler's fans are sick and tired of hearing excuses from management on the 7th highest grossing team in the NHL.

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#57 dave
March 09 2014, 12:27PM
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Spydyr wrote:

Eakins already took their donuts away.If any fall out of line the hammer will fall.Just ask the guy handing out stickers at a bar across town from Rexall.

So what does Sticker man have to say ? Don't be a tease.

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#58 Danger Pay
March 09 2014, 12:29PM
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I started looking at prospects back in November. It was pretty amazing how the Oilers managed to have their Mid-Dec/Jan slump all season.

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#59 Spydyr
March 09 2014, 12:41PM
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dave wrote:

So what does Sticker man have to say ? Don't be a tease.

Something about if you diss Lowe expect the long arm of the Oilers to reach you half way across town.So much for free speech.

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#60 @Oilanderp
March 09 2014, 01:10PM
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Naky wrote:

If Sam Gagner is traded just for a 2nd and a 3rd draft round pick, it would be time to start throwing molotovs at that Oilers office downtown. No matter how negatively he's looked at here, he's a perennial 40-50 point player on the perennial worst team in the league. He's worth more than a prospect that might make our team on the fourth line in four years like Lander and a prospect that probably never will in a third.

A 3-4 d-man who has either been overshadowed by some younger prospects and has that dreaded extra year of term/extra million on the contract that the team is happy to offload for. You know, almost all the same reasons why some want to get rid of Gagner. We need bodies back, not draft picks in a weak drafting year.

Let me buy you a steak and beverage sir.

Trading Gags during a time when his shooting percentage is half of what it has been his entire career isn't getting good value.

If people really wanted him gone they should've done so last year when Sam finished tied for 17th in the LEAGUE for points by a center.

A 2nd and a 3rd round pick!?!?!? Gord help us all.

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#61 @Oilanderp
March 09 2014, 07:00PM
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Rusty Patenaude wrote:

What are you basing that on? He is very close in scoring to Reinhart and bigger. There seems to be very little to differentiate between Reinhart, Bennett, Dal Colle and Draisiatl. Different packages but they all project well as NHLers. I like Bennett too actually, my only problem with him is he might not be a center in the NHL.

There's only one list that I have seen that has him (the German) in the top 3. I have to defer to the 'authorities' on the subject since I can't watch all of the prospects myself. So, with the caveat that I am talking out of my a55 when it comes to the future draft, I bet Draisaitl doesn't go top 3. Still, there's hockey left to play.

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#62 Spydyr
March 09 2014, 07:22PM
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I AM KEVIN L. wrote:

Score!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Most posters here are negative drama queens and not true Oilers fans. Go the real Captain, Taylor Hall!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think you mean most posters here are realists and true heartbroken Oiler fans.3-1 LA.

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#63 Gk1980
March 09 2014, 07:30PM
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Soooo....when are they going to start covering the point and not run around like a bunch if idiots? Boys against men or Scrivens against LA. Size is an issue but some smart plays and you could attempt to counter that. Boys look lost out there. They give LA too much respect.

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#64 dougtheslug
March 09 2014, 07:50PM
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Rod from Viking wrote:

Lander and Klefbom in the press box, please send us back to OKC so we can play for a good AHL team.

On that note, another 2 points for Arcobello in an OT win over Rochester tonight.

Two callups are required immediately: Arco for Gagner, and Todd Nelson for Eakins

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#65 vetinari
March 09 2014, 09:33PM
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Don't mind losing to a superior team, but really, the PP is still non-existent, we still give up 50 shots, and we still get badly out chanced on home ice. This isn't month two of the regular season, it's month six-- what the heck is Eakins doing with these guys to fix these problems? Doing more of the same isn't working. Where's the innovation and skills development? Where's the accountability? Where's the teaching and motivation? Even Eakin's interviews are just a rehash of what he's said before... try something new boys...

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#66 admiralmark
March 10 2014, 10:31AM
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Sam Bennet is the player we want. Gagner for a bag of pucks and his $4.8 Million cap space back would be just fine. Arco is a better player then Gagner and I think everyone knows it. But Bennet or Reinhart will likely be better long term then Arco. As for Ekblad well I guess if he's there they will feel forced to take him.

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#67 Yaz
March 09 2014, 12:42PM
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Oiler Al wrote:

Any chance that Eakins is history at the end of this season, along with the other two statues behind the bench.?

Its troubling when you hear comments about the lack of intensity in the teams practice habits! More than one source, must be something to it. However, non of the Edmonton scribes dare do a research and write up on this issue.

Heck there were times when Eakins was in the stands during practice... to big to communicate to the players.

Also: Why does he always send out the 4 th line after a [rare] goal is scored. Should send a line that can build on the momentum of the game.

Exactly, too much ego and not enough coaching. I suspect we'll keep Eakins into October 2014 when he is canned after a 1-10 start. Everybody sees it coming except 6 rings and Mac.T who is saving his own ego and hoping to hell Eakins can pull a rabbit out of his ass.

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#68 The Real Scuba Steve
March 09 2014, 12:54PM
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Another year and lottery draft. I guess the draft is the Oiler equivalent of playoffs. We are the champs at slipping in at the big pick. If they gave first draft pick rings, Kevin Lowe wouldn't have enough fingers to accomindate all these rings.

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#69 Jeffff
March 09 2014, 12:56PM
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You can't have good environment after being the worst team in the NHL for the last 8 years.

Oilers do ruin players. I can't see much changing . Every year has been wait until next year. Well here we are again. With the amount of #1 picks and high picks in the last 8 years and Edmonton is sitting in 29th place. How is that hope and change working?

Edmonton we have a problem

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#70 Jed
March 09 2014, 12:59PM
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@Oilanderp wrote:

Draisaitl will NOT be picked in the top 3.

I don't know but Redline's Kyle Woodlief has him in the top 3.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nhl/columnist/woodlief/2014/03/02/nhl-draft-red-line-report-defensemen/5952761/

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#71 Jed
March 09 2014, 01:00PM
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@Oilanderp wrote:

Draisaitl will NOT be picked in the top 3.

I don't know where he will be picked but Kyle Woodlief of Redline report has him in the top 3

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nhl/columnist/woodlief/2014/03/02/nhl-draft-red-line-report-defensemen/5952761/

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#72 @Oilanderp
March 09 2014, 01:15PM
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Jed wrote:

I don't know where he will be picked but Kyle Woodlief of Redline report has him in the top 3

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nhl/columnist/woodlief/2014/03/02/nhl-draft-red-line-report-defensemen/5952761/

Fair enough. Still, like I said, he's not going in the top 3. I mean, he could, but i'm betting he doesn't.

We'll have more info as the day approaches, but it's my understanding that Ek, Rein, and Bennett are the top 3.

If the Oil like Darisatil enough to take him in the top 2, I sure hope they trade down and take him later.

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#73 toprightcorner
March 09 2014, 01:24PM
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Oiltown3000 wrote:

The reasons for bad development:

a) Too many Coach changes

b) No veterans too help the players learn

c) No bodyguard for the players

d) Not a good assistant or goalie coach

e) Rushing the players to the NHL

100% agree

I think some of that bad culture we supposedly had 3-6 years ago greatly affected Gagne and also hurt Hall and Ebbs in their first year. It could take a couple years to break those learned habits.

Much of this is easily fixable this summer but could take a season or two to reverse the damage.

- Add 2 veteran dmen, preferably #1 and #3 over the age of 27 and have character and leadership to be role models for defense A guy like Orpik who knows how to winit the type we need.

- Add a veteran 2C with good 2-way play and good work ethic and competes hard. A guy like Dubinsky or Vermette comes to mind.

- With Gadzic, Hendricks and Fraser we finally of bodyguard types. A big winger like Stewart or Brower would be awesome in the top 6.

- replace Bucky and Smith, overpay for quality replacements. Move Acton to assistant or let him go and bring in associate with NHL experience

- Replace Chabot as goalie coach. Overpay to get a Burke or Radford type with NHL experience

- Leave Nurse in junior one more year to develop more, use the Pietrangelo method of 2 years in junior.

- I would like to see whoever they draft 1st spend 1 more year in Junior. Drouin, Huberdeau, Murray, Reinhart, Schenn and Reilly are all top 5 picks that spent at least 1 more year in junior.

The change in team dynamics needs to happen this summer as it will take at least a year to reap the rewards of that change.

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#74 719
March 09 2014, 01:43PM
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An interesting RUMOR (rumor emphasized) was Gagner for Stewart.

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#75 Serious Gord
March 09 2014, 02:19PM
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Rick Stroppel wrote:

RE LOTTERY

Literallly any team that misses the playoffs could win the # 1 pick in the new system that started last year. The 30 the place team has a 25% chance, 29th has 18.8 %, 28th has 14.2 %, down to the 15th place team (missing the playoffs by one spot) which has a 0.5 % chance of picking first overall. The only pick that is subject to the lottery is # 1 pick. Google NHL Draft Lottery for more info.

WHAT COULD HAPPEN TO GAGNER

Buffalo finishes last overall, wins the lottery, drafts Ekblad, trades now superfluous Tyler Myers to Edmonton for Gagner. Both players flourish in their new homes.

You forgot this piece:

"A single selection from the lottery pool is made, with the winning team improving its draft position to the number 1 spot, and no team dropping more than one place."

(From wiki)

So a last place team picks no worse than second - and so on.

No way that trade with buffalo happens unless the oil pays gagner's contract.

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#76 SiD
March 09 2014, 02:36PM
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@Serious Gord

That's old. Now every team out of the playoffs have the potential to draft 1st

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#77 Alex Mathis
March 09 2014, 02:52PM
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I can't understand why Eakins continous to play Smyth at Centre. Move him to the wing (3rd or 4th line) and let Arcobello, Lander or even Hendricks play instead.

We already did the same mistake last year. I also question Joenssu and Jones, they didn't have much impact the last couple of games. Or how did Eakins say: Accountability is what matters...

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#78 Ralph
March 09 2014, 03:24PM
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Eakins is on a 4 year contract. How much is he making each year to coach the Oilers? Incentives?

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#79 ThatButthurtOilersFan
March 09 2014, 03:24PM
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The only logical conclusion to why the Oilers and their management have blown for so long is that when Pronger got traded, he must've cursed the City of Edmonton and its sports teams with voodoo magic.

Christ, we suck...

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#80 Taylor Gang
March 09 2014, 03:24PM
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I love how Lowe just says he knows about winning as if it makes a difference. I could say I'm best friends with Nail Yakupov but that doesn't mean it's true.

What achievements does Lowe have under his belt that would suggest he knows anything about "winning"? He has to be the most narcissistic, delusional, bird brained moron in the world of hockey. The only person who knows how to run an organization worse than 6 rings is Mike Milbury, and its close too.

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#81 Smokey
March 09 2014, 04:46PM
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The new world of trades where servicable players go for magic beans. Teams with needs can't trade a 40-50 point players to fill a hole.

Being a top dog team really has its advantageous. Being a to pick up a top 9 24 year player like Gagner at a reasonable number (the next couple years his hit won't look bad with 68 mil cap) and only giving up a 2nd and 3rd is crazy good value if you got any cap flexibility.

Seems like lower end teams have to trade whatever talent that they can not sign. The really get little value. Vanek was given away. I don't get how Iggy gets a late first and Vanek gets 2nd rounders.

I wonder if we will ever see another Heatley Hossa type deal?

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#82 Serious Gord
March 09 2014, 07:46PM
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can't view the game tonight - how is scrivens playing against his old team?

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#83 Dave
March 09 2014, 08:29PM
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Another display of what 5 years of rebuilding gets you

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#84 RexHolez
March 09 2014, 08:52PM
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Call me unimpressed with this team, this rebuild and this management. I guess accountability is only for players.

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#85 Rod from Viking
March 09 2014, 08:54PM
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RexHolez wrote:

Call me unimpressed with this team, this rebuild and this management. I guess accountability is only for players.

A select few players.

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#86 Rod from Viking
March 09 2014, 09:06PM
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Just listened to Eakins post game, does he think we are blind and dumb? He has never seen a mic he didn't like.

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#87 Spoils
March 09 2014, 09:08PM
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3 apples for Hemmer against the jets on Saturday, and he had the 3rd pass on one of the other goals. Nice to see.

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#88 Toro
March 09 2014, 09:27PM
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Wonder if Kevin Lowe still thinks half the league would swap rosters with us because I would be all over that!

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#89 God
March 09 2014, 10:02PM
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I just watched the 1st period and I'm glad that's all. It was brutally obvious that LA was on a completely different level, a playoff level. The Oilers looked like an AHL team out there.

The Kings were organized and had amazing puck support. The Oilers always seemed to be way too stretched out and had little puck support. It's honestly not even fun to watch. Hall scored a great goal in the first but I don't expect much more than 30 seconds of brilliance from this team, night in night out. A few of the Kings goals were lucky, but eventually a couple trickle in when you get 50 shots in a game. The Oilers surrendered 50 shots to a team struggling to score! Ridiculous.

I hold no pride in saying that I was there, supporting the team, in the darkest of times. That's just foolish. Why would I chose to be unhappy every second night? There are more productive things to do. I'm happy to come back to the team when they show that they actually want our support. Until then, it's pure insanity to cheer for this team with unquestioned loyalty. People walk away from marriages for less.

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#90 risto siltanen's slapshot
March 09 2014, 10:50PM
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Andrew wrote:

Are you talking about Ryan Nothing-Hopkins? Ryan Nugent-Hopkins lost his nerve and left town. Another over-valued under-performing star-child.

the nuge is one of the soldiers.he does what the coach wants.we've turned a scorer into horcoff.we tried with cogliano and we're even trying with yakupov.sometimes it is the coach.can't wait to get a real one and see what the talent can do.until...

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#91 Al Low
March 09 2014, 11:30PM
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Rod from Viking wrote:

Just listened to Eakins post game, does he think we are blind and dumb? He has never seen a mic he didn't like.

The smugness of Eakins is such a turn off. I'd understand if the team was any good but he's an egomaniac for no reason. This guy loves to hear himself talk. I know the team's not good enough but I can't blame them for quiting on this blowhard.

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#92 Dash Riprock
March 10 2014, 01:07PM
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john wrote:

Forget about Ekblad, we need another good big center, winning games at end of last year cost us Monahan (Flames got him). Now there's no point to win games again that will cost us high draft pick in last 17 games. Stay competitive and score some goals but lose some games, win 5 and lose 12. With 62 points is good enough to pick 2nd or 3rd.

Taylor Hall is amazing but we should have picked Tyler Seguin (he is coming to his own now) and Landeskog at left wing the next year. Yukopov will turn into a natural scorer soon. Then we would have a good team now, RNH is too soft like the Sedin sisters.

That's what I think, props if you agree.

Seguin was already traded once, what do you think that says about his personality. If Edm drafted him and had to trade him after a few years because of attitude, everyone would have complained "how much research does management do before drafting?" They did their research and choose the best player and the best fit for the team.

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#93 Twoskidoos
March 09 2014, 11:28AM
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@Total Points

Relax. There's nothing to lose.

Perhaps they're seeing for the last time whether or not Gagner is having an off year, or if they have to offload him.

I believe they offload him and take Bennett (in no particular order). He's exactly what they need - grit, prickishness, scoring ability, faceoff ability, he's 186 lbs and hopefully would fill out to 205ish.

Gagner may fetch a few pics like LT says, or, I'd rather get Ehrhoff.

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#94 Randaman
March 09 2014, 11:40AM
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Watching the Red Wings & Rangers. If you want to see a real coach in action check out Babcock. He is in constant communication with his assistants and players. Eakins is in way over his head. Fire his a$$ along with Puqueberger & Smith. This is the number one issue but MacT will have to swallow his pride and get Batmans permission when it comes to the pathetic assistants.

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#95 Dave
March 09 2014, 12:24PM
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Yes, I agree that the assistants will be fired (Bucky will get some sort of job in the organization). They are just scapegoats to give Eakins another year.

Still ... if the Oilers have a crappy start next year Eakins will be let go.

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#96 Max
March 09 2014, 12:42PM
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We can only hope that the coaching staff held a more intense practice today - oops sorry, I forgot it was only an OPTIONAL skate. Given our position in the standings, I would have thought practices should be mandatory AND intense. Still, what do I know, I'm only a fan and an armchair coach.

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#97 Jed
March 09 2014, 12:52PM
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Leon Draisaitl has been as high as top 3 and as low as 11.

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#98 Spydyr
March 09 2014, 03:33PM
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samurai003 wrote:

Careful Guys...when someone leaves their current position, eventually it leads to a management promotion, like MacT and Howson.

It's interesting on the basic stats of these three: Howson: ran CBJ into the ground, and now they are in the playoff race. Only been with the Oilers and CBJ. Maybe no other takers for his services except KBlowe.

MacT: As a failed coach with Oilers, and Chicago Wolves(AHL), TSN pickup him for a short stint. Only to leave that post for a promotion - with the Oilers. No other NHL takers except for KBlowe.

KBlowe: No management experience except with the Oilers - he's successfully been golfing in April for 9 (soon to be 10) years since 2000, the year he was given an office as GM. He works on his golf skills more than his management skills.

Lowe must one awesome golfer by now.My question is where do you get golf gloves big enough to fit over all those rings?

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#99 Taylor Gang
March 09 2014, 03:44PM
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Spydyr wrote:

Lowe must one awesome golfer by now.My question is where do you get golf gloves big enough to fit over all those rings?

Lol he probably keeps them in a bullet proof box in a bunker deep below Rexall Place.

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Taylor Gang wrote:

Lol he probably keeps them in a bullet proof box in a bunker deep below Rexall Place.

So in the same box he keeps the incriminating photos from the 80's?

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