That's... not a good sign

Jonathan Willis
March 09 2014 10:57PM

30-Scrivens-5

The Edmonton Oilers have not been a particularly stingy defensive team over the last five or six seasons, which is something like saying that winter in Canada isn't especially balmy. But even against that bar, this year's edition of the team is primed for record-setting badness in at least one category.

Shots Against 

Shots against

The chart above shows two things: the number of games per season where the Oilers surrendered 40-or-more shot, and the number of times the total was 50-or-more. The numbers for 2012-13 have been projected over an 82-game schedule, as have the numbers for this season. 

Against Los Angeles on Sunday, the Oilers allowed 50+ shots against for the second time this season. It's the first campaign since 1994 where the team played more than one game in which they allowed that many shots on net, and with 17 games left to play Edmonton is on pace to match the franchise's all-time high for games allowing 50-or-more shots in a single season (in 1992-92 the team did it three times).

The Rebuild

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It's more than fair to wonder about the state of the Oilers' rebuild at this point. This season's group hasn't had better results than Tom Renney's crew in 2011-12, and the decision to can Ralph Krueger (keep in mind that his team only played games against Western opponents) has not had results.

We can talk about shot quality, as Dallas Eakins has in recent days, but the reality is this: when a team allows shot after shot after shot, it means they're pinned in their own end. That can be mitigated a bit by allowing low quality shots, and it can be further alleviated by tremendous goaltending (as Ben Scrivens has so excellently demonstrated lately). But hanging around in the defensive zone is a recipe for disaster.

Eventually, bad things will happen. Eakins described the puck deflected in off Philip Larsen as a heart-breaker; it's true, but that's what happens to teams that hang around in the defensive zone. 

And the worst part is that things are getting worse. Via ExtraSkater.com, the following chart shows Edmonton's 10-game rolling Fenwick rating in 5-on-5 situations. That's a fancy way of saying that the line shows the percentage of unblocked shots Edmonton is taking at evens while the game is still within reach:

Edmonton Oilers 2013-2014 rolling 10-game 5v5 close FF%

They're winning games now, but that's only because Ben Scrivens is playing like Dominik Hasek. That can't last; it's good that he's capable of it but it's not enough to keep the team winning. And despite the wins, that chart is a decent argument that things are getting worse. Or, you know, the 50 shots Edmonton allowed against Los Angeles. 

That strong goalie play is masking extremely serious problems, or at least generally it's doing so. Sometimes, as with Sunday's game, even incredible goalie performances aren't enough because the team in front of that goaltender is being lit up like a Christmas tree by competent opposition. 

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Jonathan Willis is a freelance writer. He currently works for Oilers Nation, Sportsnet, the Edmonton Journal and Bleacher Report. He's co-written three books and worked for myriad websites, including Grantland, ESPN, The Score, and Hockey Prospectus. He was previously the founder and managing editor of Copper & Blue.
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#1 toprightcorner
March 10 2014, 01:55AM
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I wis people wpuld dtop posting to fire Eakins. MacT said publicly he will be the coach next year so stop with the "Fire Eakins" chants. ITs getting worse than the Omark and Schremp lovers.

If at 30 games next year and MacT has filled a bunch of the holes and the team is no better, barring multiple injuries you can come out again and wave the fire Eakins flag. Until then it is just annoying and makles zero difference.

Fire assistant coaches? Heck I will join you on that banwagon!!

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#2 Muji
March 09 2014, 11:22PM
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Advanced stat guys were saying the same thing about the Leafs earlier this season. That they were allowing WAY too many shots and that their winning ways were not sustainable. That the Leafs would eventually plummet to the bottom of the standings. Now, the Leafs aren't world-killers, but they've been relatively good this year and are competitive for a playoff position.

I'm not saying that the "Oilers will be fine!" (they probably won't be) or even that "the Oilers aren't that bad" (they're actually pretty damn bad..), but I am saying that shots against and some other advanced stats aren't enough to be 100% predictive of future games.

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#3 Zarny
March 10 2014, 09:17AM
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LMAO...the Oilers get over-matched by a bigger, better roster and people are still whining about coaching.

Good grief, a different coach is not going to make the worst blueline in the NHL any better or the Oilers top 6 F any bigger.

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#4 Zarny
March 10 2014, 09:24AM
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Ryan2 wrote:

And yet.....both Renney and Kruger had much weaker teams the past two seasons and put up better results. That comes down to coaching, plain and simple. I have said it all season - Eakins is not ready/able to coach at the NHL level.

A good coach will tweak his system to allow players to succeed, he did not.

A good coach will implement said system stepwise so the players can progressively improve in it. It does not appear he did that.

A good coach will run high intensity practices with tempo so it reflects game play. We are hearing now that he does not.

Finally, a good coach can motivate his team to play with passion and commitment to one another, something the Oilers have not done all season.

I can understand teams going through slumps or one or two players struggling under a new coach - it happens. But this has been a season long slump for the team that is just being bailed out by goaltending in order to win, and multiple players are regressing. The latter is why Eakins must go. He has failed in developing the kids this season, which was supposed to be the reason he was hired in the first place.

Good grief, better results? Renney and Krueger's teams's were brutal.

This year is tainted by the first 20 games when Dubnyk was letting in beach balls from the bluelines and the top 2 C were injured. Throw out of the first 20 games the this year's record is the same as last year's.

Eakins has tweaked the systems.

A good coach does not implement systems stepwise I'm afraid. That's silly. Systems aren't that complicated. Forward 1 goes here. Forward 2 goes there. You don't start by half implementing a system.

In case you missed the memo the criticism about practices not being intense enough goes back to Renney and Krueger's days.

It doesn't matter who coaches the Oilers. Until they can put a top pairing D on the ice that isn't named Schlutz, Ference, Petry, Belov, Fraser, Marincin or Larsen this team is scr*wed.

You can't make chicken salad with chicken sh*t

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#5 Naky
March 09 2014, 11:23PM
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Haven't you read the comments of these articles lately? Trade away Gagner for third and a fifth like Hemsky (because that's at most what you're going to get unless we eat all of his salary) and all of our problems at forward are fixed. Oh, and recall Arcobello to replace one smallish 2nd line center with a smaller one. Oh, and fire Eakins.

Think that about sums it all up? Did I leave anything out? Seems like that's all I read these days so forgive me if I missed anything small that fell between those big cracks.

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#6 Gored 1970
March 10 2014, 08:52AM
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I'm not sure firing Eakins would be the answer - I doubt the great Scotty Bowman could coach the current Oilers to many more wins. The problem is this is not a team but a collection of parts that don't function well as a team. Under Lowe's watch the Oilers have consistently taken the best player available rather than drafting based on team requirements. The end results is a top 6 of similar players with little grit and nobody to do the cornerwork and a flashy D with everyone wanting to carry the puck but no reliable stay at home defencemen.

Lowe must love the fire Eakins campaign because it gives the impression that he has put a good team together but Eakins is mismanaging it. Truth is, Lowe is a complete failure because this is not an NHL caliber team.

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#7 Jiri Slegr
March 09 2014, 11:43PM
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In case anyone wonders why we lost: Their Team Leaders Are: Kopitar Age 26 Marian Gaborik Age 32 Jeff Carter Age 29 Mike Richards Age 29 Dustin Brown Age 29 Drew Doughty Age 24 Robin Regehr Age 33 Matt Green Age 30

Oilers Team Leaders Are: Taylor Hall Age 22 Jordan Eberle Age 23 Ryan Nuge Age 20 Nail Yak Age 19 David Perron Age 25 Justin Schultz Age 23 Jeff Petry Age 26 Andrew Ference Age 34

Not matter how many times we bat this thing around, there is still this blatant fact. Theres too many young ones. If this core stays, we have to be patient because only time will make it better. Think of our mindset at age 20. Hard to be a professional that young.

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#8 toprightcorner
March 10 2014, 01:51AM
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J.R. wrote:

Coaching sucks. Execution is one thing but where is the system play? Guys out of position in the defensive zone was so brutal to watch tonight.

What is the strategy? All defenders pile into the slot?

Lame. Oh and fire Eakins.

Execution is not one thin, it is everything. Eakins system does not tell all players to pile in the slot or the dman to chace a player by going behind the net or drop pass at the blue line. Every mistake that is made that goes into the net is becasue the DIDN'T follow the system. It is plain as day to see when your watching them and when their mistake ends up in the back of their net you can see it in their eyes that not only did they scre up but they didn't do what they were told to do.

Any type of system can have success, thats why most teams can play a different one nad can succeed. The difference is how well the players execute the system and right now nobody on this team can execute this system for an entire game. They eaithr don't have the brains, the ability, the buy in, or compete level. The other biggest one is none of the offensive players have ever truley been taught how to play a 2 way game in thier lives. If that was being taught in the organization over the last 5 years, Hall, Eberle and Gagner would not be so terrible at it today.

Its like raising your kids and letting them do everything they wanted without repercussions as long as they made their bed and then suddenly at the age of 16 you tell them you can't do half of the things you used to be able to do and now you have to cut the grass, do the dishes, shovel the snow, vacuum and dust the house, wash the clothes and put new shingles on the house or you can't leave you room. It is idiotic to think that will work.

This is a problem Eakins inherited, not one that he caused. Sure he may end up not being the best coach but blaming him for the lank of implementing development structure within the team for development and two way play and everyone working on their weaknesses, Eakins had to start 5 steps behind what he thought he would cause ther were no where near ready enough to do even the simple defensive things.

When Eakis said that when he asked guys in training camp to start with a baisic defence, nobody knew what that was or though it was something different. That is a problem Eakins inherited, he didin't casue it but know he is trying to fix and unbreak the bad habits that they got over the past 4 years.

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#9 Ari Gold
March 10 2014, 02:26AM
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Fire Eakins.

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#10 zenoil
March 10 2014, 08:37AM
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To the koolaid drinkers who say Mac T has done nothing but good for this team. Yes he has made some good trades, but this is the worst defense this team has ever had. The worst coach this team has ever had. The most disappointing season the team has ever had. He's doing great!!

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#11 Zarny
March 10 2014, 11:12AM
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Ryan2 wrote:

LOL. Have you ever coached at any level? Based on your comments, I doubt it. You do not implement a system all at once - you break it down into components based on the level of your team and implement it stepwise just like training a newbie at work. That is how a good coach does it. At the NHL level you can go faster, but just like in youth hockey you still need the players to master the fine points of each component before they can do the whole system properly. That is why you break it down and implement it stepwise. Skip a step or cheat the process and you get the mess that the Oilers are this year. If I recall correctly, this team is viewed by opponents as cheating the process as well........

Eakins adapted his Junior or maybe AHL calibre-system well after it was apparent to everyone else that it would not work at the NHL level. Good for him for finally recognizing it, but whatever he is doing now is not helping much either. The team is totally disorganized and only wins when Scrivens can steal a game here or there.

WRT intensity at practice, isn't that what Mr. Fitness was supposed to do - bring up the intensity and compete levels on the team? In my comment I never said that Renney or Kruger were different, I just pointed out that Mr. Fitness does not practice what he preaches (which is apparently the same for player accountability as well based on his free passes for young players not named Yakupov).

The simple fact remains that Renney and Kruger had weaker teams (Pat Quinn likely had the worst one of the bunch - that lineup was brutal) and they still generated the same or better results. That speaks volumes about the current coaching staff.

I do agree with you that the team needs a better blue line, and have been saying it here for the past two or three years that I have been posting.

LMAO...I played junior A bud.

For starters coaches don't implement 'a' system. They implement systems...plural. Since the system for defensive zone coverage has nothing to do with your offensive zone.

And no, you don't implement a system step-wise. It's rather imperative that all 5 players know their roles and responsibilities. You don't tell the D their defensive zone responsibilities and then tell the forwards you'll let them know what they should do in a couple of games lol.

You see "systems", even at the NHL level, are very general. The first D or F into the offensive/defensive zone does this...the second guy does this. That is all implemented at the same time.

The problem isn't Eakins' systems or what he is doing now. Most of the time players are in the right position which is all a system is designed to do. The problem is the players keep making stupid decisions or just get beat 1 on 1 because they are playing over their head against better players.

The key to a system being effective is the players not the coach.

WRT to intensity at practice no that isn't really what Mr. Fitness was talking about. Practice isn't about fitness. Off-season training is which is what Eakins was actually preaching about.

High intensity practices are about practicing and making decisions at the same speed you play the game as well as developing an edge to bring into the game.

And no it's not a simple fact that Renney and Krueger had weaker teams. Both had much better G than what the Oilers had before Scrivens this year. Both were far less effected by key injuries.

Most important of all both had Horcoff to protect Nuge and Gagner. Offensively Horcoff could never live up to his contract but defensively he was a #1C, a terrific PK and did the dirty jobs on the PP. When Horcoff was injured last year the Oilers got throttled.

It's rather sad how so many like you still apparently think of Hall, Nuge, Eberle, Yakupov and Schultz as children with no responsibility for their dumb decisions, risky passes, lack of intensity or trying to do it all themselves.

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#12 Geoff
March 10 2014, 11:31AM
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Personally I think before you all fire Eakins you would have to give him a proper NHL defence core first to really evaluate him.

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#13 ThatButthurtOilersFan
March 09 2014, 11:07PM
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Drinking Game!

Step 1: Get vodka

Step 2: Take a shot whenever the Oilers a) Turn the puck over b) Fail a toe drag c) Petry misses his man and d) The Oilers get scored on when Yakupov's on the ice.

Step 3: Die because you've had too much alcohol and your liver failed.

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#14 mesa
March 10 2014, 01:20AM
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will i am on board re firing the head coach.LA had the game from the start and we suckered punched and the head coach does not want to lose the power play.lose the game fighting man.the fans would loved that .

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#16 james_dean
March 10 2014, 12:12AM
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My friend asked me on thursday, " want to go to the game? Theres 10$ tix on stubhub."

Sorry, I replied type 2 fan here. Need free tickets and free oiler bucks to watch that

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#17 Walter Sobchak
March 10 2014, 12:46AM
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The only good thing about this season was Soshi.........Plus the Canucks & Flame's suck too.

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#18 mesa
March 10 2014, 01:15AM
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Walter Sobchak wrote:

The only good thing about this season was Soshi.........Plus the Canucks & Flame's suck too.

the flames suck but we suck doing it on our knees.

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#19 Serious Gord
March 10 2014, 01:28AM
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Katz should play spin the bottle with Lowe, Eakins, MacT and himself. Whoever it points at leaves the organization. If he's not going to make someone accountable for this disaster he can let the bottle do the dirty work for him.

The departure of any one of the four will improve the team because regardless of which one goes, Eakins gets fired. The higher up the corporate ladder the one selected is the better and more complete the changeover is.

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The oil have only beaten one of the top sixteen teams seven times this season - about 20% win rate if my numbers are correct.

They play 12 of the remaining 17 games against that group.

If they continue to suck as bad as they have thus far they will finish with maybe 14 more points (maybe) for a total of 66 the worst record in franchise history besides 09-10 and 10-11.

Put another way that would mean that the top three worst records in franchise history have all occurred in within the last six seasons.

And KLOWE still has a job with the oil.

Only the NYI have management that is competitively arguably as bad as the oil, but that is an argument where all of the recent stats Favour the oil.

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#20 **
March 10 2014, 02:35AM
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MAybe Phillip Larsen is best suited to be a winger. He is just brutal as a d man. And I'm not talking just about that own goal, he almost cost the Oilers the game against the Islanders.

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#21 Zarny
March 10 2014, 01:43PM
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Cold Hard Truth wrote:

What is actually funny is the lengths you will contort yourself to defend the team.

I don't blame you, to be honest. After 8 years of dismal failure, most Oilers fans have forgot what a good team looks like.

Actually, what is funny is that you think I'm defending the team.

Umm no. Eakins is simply the wrong target.

The first problem is the players as a whole are simply not good enough. Far too many players like Petry and Schultz are forced to play above their heads. Most of that blame lies with Tambo who did not obtain anything other than a few 1st overall draft picks.

The second problem is the players. Namely Hall, Nuge, Eberle, Gagner, Yakupov and Schultz. They make stupid decisions ad nauseam. They all make risky, cross ice passes that continually get picked off and lead to odd man rushes against.

A different coach or a different system will do nothing to improve the Oilers' fortunes.

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#22 Zarny
March 10 2014, 01:46PM
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Rama Lama wrote:

Zarny or should I say Dallas, you are right on one front and one front only!

I have been critical of Dallas Eakins since the start of the season............there are too many issues he has created on his own to mention.

I do need to concede on one front where Dallas has made an improvement............our players no longer eat donuts!

That's quite an accomplishment!

The fact morons like you think the Oilers' problem is coaching is laughable.

If Renney and Krueger were so great why do all of the players they coached still make dumb decisions?

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#23 Errol
March 09 2014, 11:12PM
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Oiler fans have so many expectations but the reality is Oilers are barely an NHL team.

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#24 Mr common sense
March 10 2014, 12:06AM
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Eakins is in over his head, it's quite obvious. His "I'm going home to drink a bottle of scotch and be back at the office at 5am " routine isn't fooling anyone.

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#25 Cold Hard Truth
March 10 2014, 08:05AM
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Hiring Eakins was one of MacTavish's biggest mistakes, but keeping him will be an even bigger one.

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#26 Ryan2
March 10 2014, 09:12AM
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Gored 1970 wrote:

I'm not sure firing Eakins would be the answer - I doubt the great Scotty Bowman could coach the current Oilers to many more wins. The problem is this is not a team but a collection of parts that don't function well as a team. Under Lowe's watch the Oilers have consistently taken the best player available rather than drafting based on team requirements. The end results is a top 6 of similar players with little grit and nobody to do the cornerwork and a flashy D with everyone wanting to carry the puck but no reliable stay at home defencemen.

Lowe must love the fire Eakins campaign because it gives the impression that he has put a good team together but Eakins is mismanaging it. Truth is, Lowe is a complete failure because this is not an NHL caliber team.

And yet.....both Renney and Kruger had much weaker teams the past two seasons and put up better results. That comes down to coaching, plain and simple. I have said it all season - Eakins is not ready/able to coach at the NHL level.

A good coach will tweak his system to allow players to succeed, he did not.

A good coach will implement said system stepwise so the players can progressively improve in it. It does not appear he did that.

A good coach will run high intensity practices with tempo so it reflects game play. We are hearing now that he does not.

Finally, a good coach can motivate his team to play with passion and commitment to one another, something the Oilers have not done all season.

I can understand teams going through slumps or one or two players struggling under a new coach - it happens. But this has been a season long slump for the team that is just being bailed out by goaltending in order to win, and multiple players are regressing. The latter is why Eakins must go. He has failed in developing the kids this season, which was supposed to be the reason he was hired in the first place.

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#27 Jay
March 10 2014, 09:27AM
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It's gotta get worse before it can get better, right... right?

I don't know if firing the coach would solve a lot of the problems. Wouldn't it just be another coaching change that the players have to deal with, and style to get used to? But I guess if it's a veteran coach with experience that'd be good.

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#28 Max
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On a positive note, I think our days of 8-0 thrashings are done with the signing of Ben Scrivens. On a sour note, Andrew Ferrance - Stanly Cup winner, mentor,captain,4 year contract with no-trade clause. His play has been medicore at best. If that's mentoring, then wow. Our defense definitely is atrocious, but what's happening to Eberle, Nugent-Hopkins, Yakabov? They seem to be scared to play like they used to. It may be Eakins and staff, I'd like to think so. We really need major changes AGAIN in the off season. I really hope we can get some defensemen - MEN, not boys and let the young guys get back to what they do best. SCORE. Things cannot improve without removing the cause of the rot. Deep thought has to gone into what this cause may be. Heads must once again roll.

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#29 Zarny
March 10 2014, 01:22PM
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Cold Hard Truth wrote:

Typical blindfaither argument: "If it weren't for ____, then we would be a lot better."

The problem is ____ is changing every year.

Truth is, the Oilers don't just have 1 or 2 problems. They are not 1 or 2 fixes away from becoming competitive. The organization is riddled with problems that have been talked about exhaustively.

This year, according to the blindfaithers, Dubnyk was the sole cause of the team's collapse. Yet now they've been getting excellent goaltending from Scrivens and they still suck.

Spare me your drivel.

At no point in time have I ever insinuated the Oilers are 1 or 2 moves away. They need to two top pairing D and 2 different top 6 F alone.

Dubnyk was not the sole cause of the team's collapse but last year he was solid while this year he was letting in beach balls from the blueline.

And in case you missed the memo, if you ignore the first 20 games the Oilers are 3 games below 0.500 which is exactly what they were last year.

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#30 Andrew
March 09 2014, 11:29PM
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You are watching and paying through the nose for AHL level hockey. With Katz holding the pink slip and KLowe and Mac running the show I am surprised that anyone who cheers for the Oil are surprised at the result.

I would say that at least 4 of the top 6 suck and the others simply blow! By the time the drafted D get to the show, if they do, the bottom 6 will be succumbing to old age and the top 6 will be moving on as free agents hoping to play for a winning organization.

I wouldn't go to an Oiler's game with a free ticket. As a matter of fact a local company can't get anyone to take their tickets for free unless the person is cheering the visiting team. I can't believe these aholz have brought this proud tradition to such an ignominious ending. A pox on the tools who have created this mess.

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#31 Anton
March 10 2014, 03:00AM
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toprightcorner wrote:

Execution is not one thin, it is everything. Eakins system does not tell all players to pile in the slot or the dman to chace a player by going behind the net or drop pass at the blue line. Every mistake that is made that goes into the net is becasue the DIDN'T follow the system. It is plain as day to see when your watching them and when their mistake ends up in the back of their net you can see it in their eyes that not only did they scre up but they didn't do what they were told to do.

Any type of system can have success, thats why most teams can play a different one nad can succeed. The difference is how well the players execute the system and right now nobody on this team can execute this system for an entire game. They eaithr don't have the brains, the ability, the buy in, or compete level. The other biggest one is none of the offensive players have ever truley been taught how to play a 2 way game in thier lives. If that was being taught in the organization over the last 5 years, Hall, Eberle and Gagner would not be so terrible at it today.

Its like raising your kids and letting them do everything they wanted without repercussions as long as they made their bed and then suddenly at the age of 16 you tell them you can't do half of the things you used to be able to do and now you have to cut the grass, do the dishes, shovel the snow, vacuum and dust the house, wash the clothes and put new shingles on the house or you can't leave you room. It is idiotic to think that will work.

This is a problem Eakins inherited, not one that he caused. Sure he may end up not being the best coach but blaming him for the lank of implementing development structure within the team for development and two way play and everyone working on their weaknesses, Eakins had to start 5 steps behind what he thought he would cause ther were no where near ready enough to do even the simple defensive things.

When Eakis said that when he asked guys in training camp to start with a baisic defence, nobody knew what that was or though it was something different. That is a problem Eakins inherited, he didin't casue it but know he is trying to fix and unbreak the bad habits that they got over the past 4 years.

If players cannot but into the system, then it is a failed system. Part of reason why some coach failed in one team but then find success on different team. Since no team can ever just trade entire roster away to fit into certain coach's system then you have to find somebody else that have a system which can work with the team. No coach should cry about how the players just won't be able to work with his system because it is their job to find a system that his players can work with.

Since Eakins came in, he started preaching his gimmick (it is not a system, it is a gimmick) without evaluating what types of players that he has. Any Oilers fan with a more realistic view of the team would expect the team miss playoffs but at least to see some signs of improvement, not Eakins' Oilers however. The team are regressing from whatever they had from last year and just completely lost out there on ice. If the players don't understand the concept of playing a two way game, then you work on the basic fundamental of how to play a proper defense by not trying to sell some gimmick which was working with a bunch of underachievers in minor league. What do you deal with a young team is by helping them to improve on certain areas of their game which can benefiting them in a long run. Eakins came into Edmonton by thinking himself as savior of franchise (you can read the interview when he was first hired by stating "Oilers will be a hard team to play against with", seem kind of ridiculous now isn't it?) without even have the first practice with the team. He is arrogant and full of himself, have this guy as a coach will only damaging the team further. The worst rookie that we ever have is Eakins himself!

I don't know how you can use the reason of "Eakins inherit a bad team" as an excuse for how awful the team is, because it is HIS JOB TO FIX THE DAMN PROBLEM! THAT'S WHAT HE WAS HIRED FOR! Try to be more logic instead blindly defend someone who should actually do his job.

Fire Eakins! Fire Eakins! Fire Eakins!

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#32 Loweblows
March 10 2014, 07:00AM
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Fire Eakins!

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#33 BingBong
March 10 2014, 07:38AM
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What's the deal with RNH? He's been invisible the last month and he's our #1 center!

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#34 John Chambers
March 10 2014, 07:59AM
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Ari Gold wrote:

Fire Eakins.

If ... A veteran NHL coach is available and willing then yes.

Laviolette, Bylsma, Teds Nolans, just don't bother if they're going to replace Eakins with another rookie coach or with Ron Wilson.

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#36 Newj
March 10 2014, 09:27AM
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I'm not usually critical of Kevin & Louie on the Oiler coverage, but yesterday Louie's color comments just perpetuate the problems the Oilers are experiencing.

Yak tried a high risk backhand pass out of their defensive zone which was quickly gobbled up and resulted in a decent scoring chance for the Kings. Seeing Yak's reaction to what he just did I sensed he knew he screwed up.

Louie on the other hand, he praised Yak for that risky move. Something about how it was nice to see the young kids trying things out there even if they dont always work.

WTF?

C'mon I appreciate the positive spin on everything the Oilers do and don't do, but that kind of commentating gets tired real quick. Why can't Louie call a spade a spade and state that hopefully those kind of mistakes are avoidable if they will play within themselves and quit trying those high risk passes, toe drags, ect, ect.

Louie's koolaid commentary is way beyond being supportive of the team, in fact it's counter productive because acceptance of their mistakes becomes the norm.

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#37 BingBong
March 10 2014, 09:50AM
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CMG30 wrote:

Honestly I am not a fan of firing another head coach because I believe that's been part of the problem with the Oilers. But with the way the team has been preforming, Mactavish may have no choice.

I agree. I don't necessarily think coaching is the biggest problem, but if the Oilers start out poorly next year then MacT will have no choice but to fire Eakins, regardless of what our roster looks like.

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#38 Max
March 10 2014, 10:30AM
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Go into, not gone, sorry.

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#39 Woggie63
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The sample size is big enough, we need a bold move with this team.

Fire the coaching staff, hire some combination of

Head Coach

Laviolette (2x Stanley Cup appearances)

Marc Crowford (2 X Stanley Cup appearances)

Assist Coach

Larry Robinson (2X Stanley Cup appearances)

Todd Nelson (Has done a great job on the farm)

Jac. Lemire (winner)

AND

Fire Kevin Lowe and hire Bob Nicholson as POHO

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#40 Cold Hard Truth
March 10 2014, 11:22AM
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Zarny wrote:

Good grief, better results? Renney and Krueger's teams's were brutal.

This year is tainted by the first 20 games when Dubnyk was letting in beach balls from the bluelines and the top 2 C were injured. Throw out of the first 20 games the this year's record is the same as last year's.

Eakins has tweaked the systems.

A good coach does not implement systems stepwise I'm afraid. That's silly. Systems aren't that complicated. Forward 1 goes here. Forward 2 goes there. You don't start by half implementing a system.

In case you missed the memo the criticism about practices not being intense enough goes back to Renney and Krueger's days.

It doesn't matter who coaches the Oilers. Until they can put a top pairing D on the ice that isn't named Schlutz, Ference, Petry, Belov, Fraser, Marincin or Larsen this team is scr*wed.

You can't make chicken salad with chicken sh*t

Typical blindfaither argument: "If it weren't for ____, then we would be a lot better."

The problem is ____ is changing every year.

Truth is, the Oilers don't just have 1 or 2 problems. They are not 1 or 2 fixes away from becoming competitive. The organization is riddled with problems that have been talked about exhaustively.

This year, according to the blindfaithers, Dubnyk was the sole cause of the team's collapse. Yet now they've been getting excellent goaltending from Scrivens and they still suck.

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#41 Rama Lama
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Zarny or should I say Dallas, you are right on one front and one front only!

I have been critical of Dallas Eakins since the start of the season............there are too many issues he has created on his own to mention.

I do need to concede on one front where Dallas has made an improvement............our players no longer eat donuts!

That's quite an accomplishment!

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#42 Towersofdub
March 10 2014, 04:18PM
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@Max

Ference, Yakupov....I'm curious to know how closely you watch Oilers games if you don't know how the players names are spelled.

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#43 bwar
March 09 2014, 11:17PM
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But don't worry everyone, the team will totally be fixed by next season.

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#44 Kevin
March 09 2014, 11:25PM
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With all the draft picks Oilers have had in the last 8 years you would think the team would slowly get better. But they are getting worse. I don't think it is the players they picked so much , I think it comes down to management's formula to win in the NHL. It has been so wrong.

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#45 Soccer Steve
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It's very strange, this.

After years of complete ineptitude under the Tambo regime I feel like there is finally some serious, fruitful gains being made by our new GM.

Yet the team sucks worse than it ever has.

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#46 Gk1980
March 10 2014, 12:42AM
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This team is like a featuring wound that just keeps bleeding. What the heck is management gonna do to stop it? Is there an answer? What is the solution?

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#47 Gk1980
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Jiri Slegr wrote:

In case anyone wonders why we lost: Their Team Leaders Are: Kopitar Age 26 Marian Gaborik Age 32 Jeff Carter Age 29 Mike Richards Age 29 Dustin Brown Age 29 Drew Doughty Age 24 Robin Regehr Age 33 Matt Green Age 30

Oilers Team Leaders Are: Taylor Hall Age 22 Jordan Eberle Age 23 Ryan Nuge Age 20 Nail Yak Age 19 David Perron Age 25 Justin Schultz Age 23 Jeff Petry Age 26 Andrew Ference Age 34

Not matter how many times we bat this thing around, there is still this blatant fact. Theres too many young ones. If this core stays, we have to be patient because only time will make it better. Think of our mindset at age 20. Hard to be a professional that young.

And this is Tambo's failure!!! He never knew how to put a proper supporting cast for the "KIDS"being drafted and thrown into the freaken fire. "Here rookies, take that hill!". It isn't going to fly. This is still an issue and I think mactavish recognizes this and will try to bring in the right guys. At least I hope so, us mere peasants can see this!

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#48 J.R.
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Coaching sucks. Execution is one thing but where is the system play? Guys out of position in the defensive zone was so brutal to watch tonight.

What is the strategy? All defenders pile into the slot?

Lame. Oh and fire Eakins.

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#49 Al Low
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If there's one thing I'll give Mr Fitness, it's his stubbornness. He refuses to move on his 1-3-1 PP system which completely blows. There's absolutely no structure to anything they do out there -- wasn't structure the reason Coach Eakins was brought in. He's in way over his head. He may not have the personnel but the team's never looked worse than they have in this so-called rebuild. We really are the Brooklyn Islanders of the West. Unreal. Yeah, 6Rings, it's only been 4 years but I'm tired of the circus you and Katz have created.

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#50 toprightcorner
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I remember whe the Oilers brought in Oates just before Christmas in 2003/04 and he worked hard on teaching guys how to take faceoffs and could teach younger offensive guys like Hemsky, Horcoff Stoll and Smyth, I recall MacT saying in an interview what a difference Oates made to the team about winning and they had brough in Oates to do Just that.

Hemsky, Smyth, Horcoff, Stoll and Torres all had career years the following year. Stoll, Horcoff and Reasoners faceoffs jumped dramatically and I beleive set up the younger guys with the desire to compete and make the cup run the next NHL season after the lockout. All of your offensive forwards don't all chance overnight and have their career year at the same time without influence and I beleive that to be Adam Oates. All but Hemsky had also developed the defensive part to their game that wa lacking. You bring in Pronger and Peca that year and it was a whole new team because of the changes the players made to compete each and every night.

If the Oilers could convince a player like that, at the end of his career to come for just a year to extend ther carreer with the idea of having him mentor that team I think that would make a huge difference. I think Jagr could teach this team a ton on working hard and commitment and realate to the offensive guys. He also seems willing to play almost anywhere so if you offered him the same contract or a touch more for a year could be the best short term investment they have ever made. Other options could be Jovanovski, Iginla, Dan Boyle and Bertuzzi. Heck , sign them and tell them you will even trade them to a contender at the deadline if the Oilers are no in a playoff position. 60 games (what Oates played) could go a long way to righting the ship and and teaching the comete and commitment it takes.

Jagr made a measly $2 mill this season $4.5 the previous aft scoring 54 points, I would give him $4 - $4.5 for 1 year cause his work ethic and commitment to the game and practice will change some of these young guys around. He has a few more attainable milestones so I see him wantong to play another year. Philly's and Stars and even Bruins all commented on the positives he brout to the room and work ethic while there.

Jagr could be the Coles Notes of teaching this team how to compete, practice and commitment to improving.

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