Another Year for Anton Belov?

Jonathan Willis
April 15 2014 07:00AM

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One of the more difficult players to get a read on this season is Anton Belov. In his first year in North America, the Russian rearguard offered an intriguing mix of ability and error. Should the Edmonton Oilers give him another season to find his way?

By Eye

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In a lot of ways, Belov is the classic puck-moving European defenceman, but with a twist: instead of being small and fast he’s big and slow.

Belov’s strengths are many. He’s relatively poised with the puck, with an ability to make the first pass out of the zone, even under pressure (something he improved on over the course of the year). He has a heavy shot, albeit one that wasn’t used frequently enough. In the defensive zone, he has both the frame (6’4”) and the strength (218 pounds) to hold the front of the net. Versatility is also an asset, as Belov was the only Oilers defenceman who seamlessly made the transition from left side to right side and back again.

There are some weaknesses in the mix, too. The most troubling is Belov’s skating; he has heavy feet and at times he can be exposed by speed. The other issue is that at times he loses one-on-one battles it looks like he should win. Some of that’s a speed issue, some of it’s a meanness issue, but at times it looked like Belov just wasn’t prepared for the kind of pressure he was put under by opposition forwards. In a way, that might be a good sign; the game in the KHL is much more passive and a lot of that could potentially clear up now that he has a season of NHL hockey under his belt.

By Number

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Anton Belov played regularly with four different partners: Jeff Petry, Justin Schultz, Nick Schultz and Philip Larsen. If we define “regularly” as at least 100 minutes, it’s interesting to compare the performance of those players with Belov to their performance with other partners.

The table which follows shows the Corsi percentage for the Oilers with each of the following pairings on the ice:

Regular Partner  Jeff Petry  Justin Schultz  Nick Schultz 
Anton Belov 58.4 49.0 43.4
Martin Marincin 48.1   ---
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Oscar Klefbom ---
44.8 ---
Andrew Ference 45.1 42.1 41.4
Nick Schultz 37.1 38.4 ---
Justin Schultz ---
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38.4
Jeff Petry ---
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37.1

(Philip Larsen was not included, as the only defence partner he spent more than 100 minutes with was Belov and so there was no other regular to contrast with. They were an extremely ineffective pairing, with a total on-ice Corsi rating of 34.7 percent).

The interesting thing here is that the three players who spent significant time with Belov and significant time with others all saw better on-ice shot rates with Belov than they did without him. Some of that may be related to role, but it’s hard to escape the idea that a lot of it has to do with Belov’s utility as a player.

My View

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The price point matters, but the Oilers could do much worse than Belov as a No. 6/7 option.

His versatility makes him fantastic for the No. 7 role because he can slide in anywhere without disrupting other pairings. He’s big enough to play with a small puck-mover, he’s a good enough puck-mover to survive with a player whose primary abilities lie elsewhere, and he can play the left or the right side. He’s also a significantly better player than other options Edmonton is likely to deploy in this role.

Additionally, there’s still some upside there. One of the Oilers’ (many) gaffes in recent years was the departure of Jan Hejda, who looked uneven in his first season in North America at around the same age Belov is now; he blossomed when he got a chance in Columbus and became a legitimate top-four shutdown defender.

On the right contract, the Oilers should be very interested in bringing Belov back.

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Jonathan Willis is a freelance writer. He currently works for Oilers Nation, Sportsnet, the Edmonton Journal and Bleacher Report. He's co-written three books and worked for myriad websites, including Grantland, ESPN, The Score, and Hockey Prospectus. He was previously the founder and managing editor of Copper & Blue.
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#1 Bicepus Maximus - Huge fan boy!
April 15 2014, 08:33AM
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HardBoiledOil wrote:

i'd sign Belov....then trade Petry !

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#2 oil leak
April 15 2014, 08:19AM
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I'd take a chance on belov improving. Also I think we should bring in 2or 3nhl defensemen. No gifting the spots to our young players lets get some competition for those spots going

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#3 Dman09
April 15 2014, 08:39AM
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If signing him mean getting rid of Larsen and Fraser then by all means get er done.

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#4 Bucknuck
April 15 2014, 09:11AM
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Looking at that Corsi surprised me. Belov kind of struck me as a guy that could be just great... but when exactly? I'm torn.

If the price point is right, I don't think it would be wise to say goodbye to a 6' 4" D-man with a big shot and good underlying statistics. another one year contract sounds about right.

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#5 The Soup Fascist
April 15 2014, 09:08AM
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I think Belov is an upgrade over Larsen and Fraser, as well.

Assuming the Oilers can add a legitimate 1st pairing "D" (hardly a slam dunk) your top six could be:

New Guy(getting picky, hopefully a righty), Petry, Schultz, Ference and two of (Marincin,Klefbom or Nurse)

Belov makes a decent #7. Mostly because he can play either side and adds some size. With all due respect I don't think you want one of the kids sitting in the pressbox. Send them to the minors (Marincin or Klefbom) or Junior (Nurse). Unless they can pickup a good known quantity on the bottom pairing (a Matt Greene type), I think Belov is the keeper. Larsen is a great skater but a mess in his own zone and Fraser is a tough, game guy but is S-L-O-W. Glacially slow.

I don't think this team can afford to have 3 young'ns playing D next year plus a defensively suspect young pro in Schultz. If MacT fails to find a legitimate top pair guy it is deja vu all over again.

If they somehow manage to get Ekblad, well that throws another wrench into the works. I think you have no choice but to trade one of the young D to reduce the logjam. Which one(s) - that is the question.

With Ekblad you would have four pups knocking on the door, NOT counting Gernat, Musil and Simpson (should he sign). That is too many guys essentially the same age in playing the same position, IMO. At some point you lose them and their value decreases as they stagnate in the minors.

That is a lot of "potential" talent stockpiled in one position AND a luxury that cannot be afforded with so many holes throughout the current sad sack roster.

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#6 God
April 15 2014, 12:35PM
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That was his first year. I think he'll get a lot better. Sign him to a 1 or 2 year deal. $1.5m range. Let's see what he's got.

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#8 etownman
April 15 2014, 09:41AM
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I agree, Belov deserves another 1 year contract. I'd sign him for sure. At his price range, who else on the UFA market is notably better with upside?

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#10 HardBoiledOil
April 15 2014, 07:36AM
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i'd sign Belov....then trade Petry !

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#11 Quicksilver ballet
April 15 2014, 09:45AM
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We've all seen what Larsen can do for this team this past season. He's the keeper out of this grey area bunch. Belov, Grebeshkov, Fraser all out. Petry will have surprising trade value inside of 12 months. Can't help but see a fit for Jeff in Philadelphia. Could Gags (half salary retained) and Petry net the Oilers Couturier before the end of next season?

It's difficult to see what these players are capable of, during this fire drill type environment in Edmonton.

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#12 6 ring circus
April 15 2014, 10:20AM
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16 Other teams and fans are getting ready for the playoff's, Oiler fans are getting ready for the draft lottery tonight,the draft in June and discussing already who will fill which positions next October,the season just ended, after 8 years of this same garbage you would think that there would be some sort of accountability from the team or a fan revolt, instead we keep hitting the rewind button year after year and we keep getting the same old results .I think someone should check the water in Edmonton and see if Rexall has been secretly putting Kool Aide in it.

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#13 The Real Scuba Steve
April 15 2014, 10:37AM
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Bicepus Maximus - Huge fan boy! wrote:

Signed,

Steve Tambellini

No, Steve Tambellini will need to take more time to ponder the situation in detail.

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#14 Truth
April 15 2014, 08:01AM
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In a perfect world you don't bring Belov back because you want Marincin/Klefbom in the 6/7 spots. This would require the Oilers picking up 2 defensemen better than those two. Hopefully one top 2 d man to play with Petry and one to slide in on the second or third pairing.

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#15 Mason Storm
April 15 2014, 01:35PM
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Dman09 wrote:

"Very High End Defenseman" What exactly does that mean? Does that mean MacT might try and go after Weber? Would Gagner, Petry, 2015 1st rounder make it happen?

Who else would even be on the Radar for MacT?

Nashville scoffed at Phillys offer sheet and matched. They would have gotten 4 first round picks. Any trade for Weber starts with the name Hall and then some. Weber means more to Nashville then Hall does to Edmonton and not one Oilers fan in the world would trade Hall for a package of players/ picks involving Gagner, Petry and a 1st rounder

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#16 vetinari
April 15 2014, 09:34AM
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Depends on money, and certainly no more than a one year contract. I'd suggest Fraser/Larson type of money at between $1M to $1.25M for a one year contract.

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#17 The Soup Fascist
April 15 2014, 10:24AM
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Dman09 wrote:

If Ekblad and Draisaitl are gone when the Oil pick I think they seriously need to consider trading down. Even if they can turn that pick into a lower 1st and a mid 2nd that would be worth it as they need specific types of players to complete this team.

Respectfully, I could not disagree more. The last thing this organization needs is more "maybes".

This scouting staff has not shown me they are ahead of the curve in identifying talent out of the top tier. Their record for later 1st round picks (granted they have not had a ton of those lately) and 2nd rounders on has been, to be kind, spotty.

The one guy who was a value pick was Eberle, but he basically lived next door to the late great Lorne Davis of Regina, who raved to the Oilers about the kid, prior to his passing.

If they are not sold on Reinhart or Bennett then trade the pick, but package it up for a known quantity 2C or 1D. No more darts for the dartboard, please.

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#18 The Real Scuba Steve
April 15 2014, 10:40AM
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The Soup Fascist wrote:

OK. Revolt it is. Which street corner are we meeting on? Are you making up the placards or shall I?

Good idea but I think 6Rings is already at his summer bunker in B.C, thinking to himself "Not a bad year overall".

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#19 Great One
April 15 2014, 11:11AM
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I think Couturier is the center the OIL should be targeting. The def we may need to find a stop gap like Boyle or Markov and just let this young group develop.

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#20 nuge2nail
April 15 2014, 11:21AM
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Oiler Domination To Follow

Who cares about our #7 D.

Unless we get a #1C and a #1D this team is screwed.

Doesn't matter who coaches and who plays in our bottom pairing.

Hopkins is the perfect #2C- he's too small and young to be the #1 guy in this division.

I'm hoping for Statsny- than sign some complimentary players like Glass, Moss, Winnik, Downie, etc...

Signing Markhov and trading for Myers would also be ideal.

It all seems unrealistic to me though, unless the silver fox pulls off an epic offseason.

More realistic: Bennett becomes the #2C and Nurse the #1D long term.

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#21 The Soup Fascist
April 15 2014, 12:10PM
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oilerjed wrote:

"I would take the skill over the size any day of the week."

Isnt this the mindset that has in the exact situation we are trying to find a way out of right now? No matter who we pick in June, they SHOULD NOT be on the Oilers next year. Let them wow the crap out of MacT in OKC and force him to find room for them.

18 and 19 year olds can't play in the AHL. It is either NHL or CHL ..... there lies the rub.

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#22 Sevenseven
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I hope Edmonton makes enough signings and has enough depth to throw Belov in the minors. Most of the guys coming up from OKC are looking good. I think Belov needs another season to adapt to the north american game. Him playing top minutes in okc will do wonderds for his game. I think he has a lot of upside.

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#23 God
April 15 2014, 02:14PM
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Mason Storm wrote:

Nashville scoffed at Phillys offer sheet and matched. They would have gotten 4 first round picks. Any trade for Weber starts with the name Hall and then some. Weber means more to Nashville then Hall does to Edmonton and not one Oilers fan in the world would trade Hall for a package of players/ picks involving Gagner, Petry and a 1st rounder

Finally someone says it. Weber was second in scoring on team Canada. He ate up big minutes against the best in the world and looked far superior. This was a team that Hall couldn't even make.

Too many people act like Weber's inflated contract is a reason to trade him. Why then are we not questioning Ryan Suter? Malkin? These are players earning similar dollars and who aren't as valuable as Weber. Nashville also has plenty of cap space, by the way.

I admire the dreaming but Mason Storm is right. The first piece traded for Weber is Hall and he still isn't enough.

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#24 Oilbaron
April 15 2014, 10:13AM
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I would re-sign Belov for sure, and I'm glad I'm not alone in this thinking. He still wasn't great at the end of the year, but he looked like a completely different player than at the start. If he keeps improving at that rate we should have a solid 4/5 defender by the end of next season... especially if we can let Steve Smith go and get an actual NHL caliber assistant coach.

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#25 The Soup Fascist
April 15 2014, 10:26AM
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6 ring circus wrote:

16 Other teams and fans are getting ready for the playoff's, Oiler fans are getting ready for the draft lottery tonight,the draft in June and discussing already who will fill which positions next October,the season just ended, after 8 years of this same garbage you would think that there would be some sort of accountability from the team or a fan revolt, instead we keep hitting the rewind button year after year and we keep getting the same old results .I think someone should check the water in Edmonton and see if Rexall has been secretly putting Kool Aide in it.

OK. Revolt it is. Which street corner are we meeting on? Are you making up the placards or shall I?

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#26 Phil
April 15 2014, 11:06AM
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MacT presser year end plan going forward 'blahblahblahblahbladblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblah...Same old sh*t

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#27 Dog Train
April 15 2014, 11:20AM
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Anton Belov is the new Corey Potter. Big, slow, can move the puck decently, has a heavy shot, loses board battles. The stats guys even liked both of them. I will say that he is a bit more physical than Potter ever was. He brings some decent traits to the #7 D spot but that's about it for me. On a cheap one-year deal, maybe, but our improvement defensively needs to be at the top of the depth chart.

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#28 Will
April 15 2014, 12:29PM
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oilerjed wrote:

"I would take the skill over the size any day of the week."

Isnt this the mindset that has in the exact situation we are trying to find a way out of right now? No matter who we pick in June, they SHOULD NOT be on the Oilers next year. Let them wow the crap out of MacT in OKC and force him to find room for them.

I completely agree that whoever is drafted should not be on the roster next year.

Soup Fascist makes a great point that because of the contract the CHL has with the NHL, you have to be 20 to be in the American Hockey League, which puts these high drafted young kids in a tough developmental spot. Nurse is likely facing another year of dominating junior, where he likely does not push his game. I can't imagine Ekblad really getting a lot out of 2 more years in junior. Klefbomb is a good example of how even the AHL is not necessarily the best league for development since it's so much dump and chase as there are less players that can take and make passes.

As for Edmonton drafting so much small skill over size, that is a farce. Years of drafts were wasted on taking high round coke machines that never worked out. Which is why the team is struggling now to build around the talent we have, because they did not use their later picks wisely to draft the complimentary players a cup winner needs. If you look at Chicago and the Pens, they all got their complimentary players in later rounds, well before they got their Toews, Kane's, Malkins, and Crosby's.

I think recently they may have turned that ship around with the likes of Chase, Nurse, Yakimov, Sheleshov, Moroz and Kahrija, but those guys are all too far away.

Finally, there's the position in question. You can always trade or buy size on the wing. Heatly at 33, 6'4 and 214 who will go for pennies this off season is a good example. But you don't necessarily need size down the middle to be a contender. Duchene, Mckinnon, Boston, the Red Wings, Tampa Bay.

True, the Oilers have such a hard time against our big Pacific rivals. But getting bigger on D, where the guys can break up the cycles will help. Gaining the zone and winning puck battles might be another conversation.

So, I guess I both agree and disagree with you, noting that it's nto that simple.

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#29 The Soup Fascist
April 15 2014, 03:13PM
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@The Real Scuba Steve

"Sad, I thought the Katz era was going to bring winning hockey back to Edmonton".

You and me both. No more cap issues. No more nickel and diming. Glory Days were at hand.

Boy were we wrong!

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#30 Rob...
April 15 2014, 09:04AM
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Even Omark was stronger along the boards than Belov. Until the Oilers win more puck battles than they lose along the boards we will continue to miss the playoffs.

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#31 nuge2nail
April 15 2014, 11:27AM
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Oiler Domination To Follow

This is a playoff team, aka a wet dream roster for next year.

Perron Statsny Yakupov

Hall Hopkins Eberle

Moss Bennett Downie

Hendricks Gordan Gazdic

Markhov Myers

Shultz Marincin

Petry Ference

Klefbom Nurse

Scrivens Fasth

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#32 HardBoiledOil
April 15 2014, 11:50AM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

In the Oilers shoes, I'd much rather bring back Belov than Larsen. Much, much rather.

for our defense, sure. if Larsen is playing forward next year, we could and should sign him for the bottom 2 lines next year.

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#33 The Soup Fascist
April 15 2014, 12:04PM
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nuge2nail wrote:

Oiler Domination To Follow

This is a playoff team, aka a wet dream roster for next year.

Perron Statsny Yakupov

Hall Hopkins Eberle

Moss Bennett Downie

Hendricks Gordan Gazdic

Markhov Myers

Shultz Marincin

Petry Ference

Klefbom Nurse

Scrivens Fasth

The Oilers have roughly $28.5 million in cap space. Somehow you have managed to parlay Gagner and Joensuu into Steve Downie and Tyler Myers (well done, by the way!) Increasing your salary availability to $34 million.

But wait we have to actually pay Myers ($5.5 million) and Downie ($2.65 million)? Oops. Now we only have $25.8 million. No problemo.

Our 7th and 8th D (sitting in the pressbox) are going to cost us close to $4 million with bonuses. So that gives us $21.8 million. Bennett, 4th overall is another $2.5 with bonuses. Alright, we still have over $19 million.

Crap, we have to re-up Schultz and Petry? They are RFA's so we can really beat them up - still going to be $2.5 - 3 million apiece even on a bridge deal. Lets's call it $5.5 total. I am guessing over $6M but let's dream big. So we have $13.5 M left - awesome.

Gaz, here is a million for you. Moss you were making $2.1 we will give you cost of living, you are happy with that right? Call it $2.5 M. Oh we need an extra forward? Ok we will sign a kid. Another million. So let's see ... carry the three ... that leaves us with 9 million bucks.

Mr. Stastny, Mr. Markhov you are highly sought after free agents so we are going to offer you each $4.5 million to sign with the 3rd worst team in the league ....wait, what's that Scott, we need to sign Yak next year ?? .... Ahem, We are prepared to offer you $3 million dollars each ....

..... Click....

Mr. Stastny? Mr. Markhov?? ....

Damn. Disconnected again.

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#34 The Real Scuba Steve
April 15 2014, 02:17PM
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The Soup Fascist wrote:

Now we are talking! Let's go to Kelowna!!

Golf clubs. Check

Beach wear. Yup

Beer cooler. Roger

Torches and pitchforks. Got 'em.

In all sincerity, I honestly believe the guy is thinking about resigning. The Bob Nicholson trial balloon may be garbage or their may be some validity.

Lowe is a proud guy. I would not be surprised if he hung them up after the playoffs. Not sure he can dig himself out of this hole quickly enough.

True, but his boss is one of his best friends. Kazt, who nobody even hears from these days probably doesn't even care until the puck drops in his new arena, and by that time all people will think when mentioning the Oilers is the longest post season drought record in the NHL. Sad, I thought the Kazt era was going to bring winning hockey back to Edmonton.

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#35 Will Colford
April 15 2014, 10:07AM
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I really wish the team was not in this terrible situation on D where we face a bunch of young kids coming up, and no vet defenders to stabilize and mentor. That way we could have the patience to see what Belov might turn into. Instead I sense he's out this year and a guy like Matt Green comes in for his spot as 6 or 7.

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#36 The Soup Fascist
April 15 2014, 10:49AM
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The Real Scuba Steve wrote:

Good idea but I think 6Rings is already at his summer bunker in B.C, thinking to himself "Not a bad year overall".

Now we are talking! Let's go to Kelowna!!

Golf clubs. Check

Beach wear. Yup

Beer cooler. Roger

Torches and pitchforks. Got 'em.

In all sincerity, I honestly believe the guy is thinking about resigning. The Bob Nicholson trial balloon may be garbage or their may be some validity.

Lowe is a proud guy. I would not be surprised if he hung them up after the playoffs. Not sure he can dig himself out of this hole quickly enough.

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#37 oilerjed
April 15 2014, 11:45AM
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I like the idea of getting Belov for 1 year. The thing I feel is most attractive about keeping him is that he is already in that window of his apprenticeship where we should know definitively if he is worth keeping by the end of next year. Other then Maricin and Klefbom we cant say the same thing about any of the rest.

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#38 oilerjed
April 15 2014, 12:02PM
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@Will

"I would take the skill over the size any day of the week."

Isnt this the mindset that has in the exact situation we are trying to find a way out of right now? No matter who we pick in June, they SHOULD NOT be on the Oilers next year. Let them wow the crap out of MacT in OKC and force him to find room for them.

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#40 Dman09
April 15 2014, 09:21AM
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The Soup Fascist wrote:

I think Belov is an upgrade over Larsen and Fraser, as well.

Assuming the Oilers can add a legitimate 1st pairing "D" (hardly a slam dunk) your top six could be:

New Guy(getting picky, hopefully a righty), Petry, Schultz, Ference and two of (Marincin,Klefbom or Nurse)

Belov makes a decent #7. Mostly because he can play either side and adds some size. With all due respect I don't think you want one of the kids sitting in the pressbox. Send them to the minors (Marincin or Klefbom) or Junior (Nurse). Unless they can pickup a good known quantity on the bottom pairing (a Matt Greene type), I think Belov is the keeper. Larsen is a great skater but a mess in his own zone and Fraser is a tough, game guy but is S-L-O-W. Glacially slow.

I don't think this team can afford to have 3 young'ns playing D next year plus a defensively suspect young pro in Schultz. If MacT fails to find a legitimate top pair guy it is deja vu all over again.

If they somehow manage to get Ekblad, well that throws another wrench into the works. I think you have no choice but to trade one of the young D to reduce the logjam. Which one(s) - that is the question.

With Ekblad you would have four pups knocking on the door, NOT counting Gernat, Musil and Simpson (should he sign). That is too many guys essentially the same age in playing the same position, IMO. At some point you lose them and their value decreases as they stagnate in the minors.

That is a lot of "potential" talent stockpiled in one position AND a luxury that cannot be afforded with so many holes throughout the current sad sack roster.

I think Marincin has earned a shot at a spot on the team next year. I'd still send Nurse and Klefbom back down until they force MacT's hand. If Ekblad is selected and expected to play in the NHL next season then I wouldn't be surprise to see Petry and Gagner packaged with a pick for either a true top pairing Dman or a really good Center. Likely a Center.

I honestly think Edm should select Leon Draisaitl. Then send Gagner and Petry and a first rounder for a true top pairing Dman. I think that would be a better move as I think Leon could play just as good as Gagner but maybe my hopes are too high.

Either one of these scenerio's would still require MacT to find one more defenseman preferably a top 4. Having Ference and Marincin as a third pairing would be preferable.

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#41 The Soup Fascist
April 15 2014, 09:35AM
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Dman09 wrote:

I think Marincin has earned a shot at a spot on the team next year. I'd still send Nurse and Klefbom back down until they force MacT's hand. If Ekblad is selected and expected to play in the NHL next season then I wouldn't be surprise to see Petry and Gagner packaged with a pick for either a true top pairing Dman or a really good Center. Likely a Center.

I honestly think Edm should select Leon Draisaitl. Then send Gagner and Petry and a first rounder for a true top pairing Dman. I think that would be a better move as I think Leon could play just as good as Gagner but maybe my hopes are too high.

Either one of these scenerio's would still require MacT to find one more defenseman preferably a top 4. Having Ference and Marincin as a third pairing would be preferable.

I agree. The rather long winded point I was trying to make was that if Ekblad is still around, unless the "braintrust" honestly believe Ekblad is the second coming of Shea Weber, they should take a center. Preferably a center with some size. Draisaitl fits the bill.

If he is gone I am honestly torn between Bennett and Reinhart. I think Reinhart has more vision and will put up better numbers but he is an RNH clone.

Bennett is said to have more sandpaper and two way ability (I have not seen him play) and that is something that is needed despite the fact he is not a monster.

BPA sounds great in principle, but when you have a top six of almost exclusively smallish non-physical players it is difficult to introduce another one. If the Oilers pick third they have a decision to make. If they pick forth they take the guy that is left. There is separation between the top four and the next grouping, IMO.

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#42 God
April 15 2014, 10:01AM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

We've all seen what Larsen can do for this team this past season. He's the keeper out of this grey area bunch. Belov, Grebeshkov, Fraser all out. Petry will have surprising trade value inside of 12 months. Can't help but see a fit for Jeff in Philadelphia. Could Gags (half salary retained) and Petry net the Oilers Couturier before the end of next season?

It's difficult to see what these players are capable of, during this fire drill type environment in Edmonton.

That's a beautiful idea but Couturier will cost even more than what you've suggested.

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April 15 2014, 10:30AM
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The Soup Fascist wrote:

OK. Revolt it is. Which street corner are we meeting on? Are you making up the placards or shall I?

Lets meet at the Oilers office at noon LOL.

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God wrote:

That's a beautiful idea but Couturier will cost even more than what you've suggested.

It all depends who's in the position of need. If it's Holmgren coming to MacTavish to address a need, then the price often seems more affordable.

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#45 Will
April 15 2014, 10:53AM
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On another note, draft lotto day is today. Not that they can really make a bad pick in the top 4, but what happens if they get 1st overall? Do they just take Ekblad and be done with it? Or do they look to trade down? Everyone knows they want Ekblad, soif anyone is willing to trade with them, then it's because that team is taking Ekblad.

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#46 The Soup Fascist
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WONGER wrote:

We Need BIG, VERY TOUGH MARK FRASER as our 6-7D Man next year!!! Look at the SYSTEMATIC BEAT DOWN he put on HUGE PATRICK MAROON (another guy who should be an Oiler)!!!!

I don't dislike the guy but he is a turnstile, Wonger.

SYSTEMATIC BEAT DOWN ??

Wonger, you aren't really New Age Sys's pugilistic alter ego ..... are you???

Your posts are much too brief and somewhat entertaining, which does not fit the profile, however the RANDOM CAPS and now use of the word "systematic" has an eerie familiarity to it.

Hmmmm.

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@The Soup Fascist

Ill agree with that with the caveat that a year extra in Junior would be less detrimental developmentally then two years too soon in the NHL.

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#48 Oiler Al
April 15 2014, 02:45PM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

In the Oilers shoes, I'd much rather bring back Belov than Larsen. Much, much rather.

The only way Larsen stays is if he plays forward. I would take Larsen over Lander though.

IF only Blov played a gritty tough game back there it would make for a better fit. Then you dont need Fraser.

But I guess if its not in your DNA to be tough, all the tigers milk in the world wont help. Same message goes to Petry, would like to see him drive some guys through the boards.

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#49 Harry2
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nuge2nail wrote:

Oiler Domination To Follow

This is a playoff team, aka a wet dream roster for next year.

Perron Statsny Yakupov

Hall Hopkins Eberle

Moss Bennett Downie

Hendricks Gordan Gazdic

Markhov Myers

Shultz Marincin

Petry Ference

Klefbom Nurse

Scrivens Fasth

How do we get Myers without giving anyone up?

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#50 The Last Big Bear
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Oh, and can we have a thread to make fun of the absolute joke of a press conference MacT gave?

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