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Lowetide
April 15 2014 11:15PM

matty draft

The Edmonton Oilers didn't win the draft lottery, and that's a news story. The club has had three number one overall selections in recent seasons and had a good shot at another, but the Florida Panthers won the day and are now on the clock. Does it change the Oilers plans? Yes. And not really.

BE BAD, FOR EKBLAD!

Most Oiler fans probably feel the team's chances at Aaron Ekblad are gone now, but the draft is a tricky item. Remember Seth Jones one year ago? Fell all the way to Memphis Nashville, and it could happen again.

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HIGH C'S

There are three centermen available, and the Oilers will get a crack at least one of them on draft day. We compared their even scoring and their power-play production early in the year.

EVEN STRENGTH

top 3f at evens

Reinhart is the best offensive player at even strength, but this is close. I'd say all three of these players are going to have enough ability to play top 6F in the NHL. That shouldn't come as a surprise, but there were questions about Draisaitl's offense (and Bennett's too) and this graph addresses those concerns.

POWERPLAY

TOP 3F ON PP

Interesting. We don't have TOI totals, but the two WHL kids appear to be either more effective or more fortunate than Bennett. That doesn't mean they are better players—coaches make decisions based on their rosters and Bennett may have been used in a secondary manner.

IS THERE A WAY FOR EDMONTON TO GET EKBLAD?

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Yes. If, as Jason Gregor suggests, Florida takes Reinhart #1 overall, Buffalo may take the big defender. However, they have an impressive group of young defensemen either in the NHL (Myers, the dancing McCabes, Pysyk) or on the way (Zadorov, Ristolainen).

It isn't a slam dunk the Sabres take Ekblad.


WHAT'S YOUR BEST GUESS?

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If you're heading to Vegas, bet Leoni.

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#1 RexHolez
April 15 2014, 11:33PM
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- Don't have time to wait and see if Ekblad is worth the hype or just another bust like many other highly touted dman before him

- Leon seemed to disappear in the World juniors and prospect game. Makes me question him

I hope they go for Bennet, but they won't. Doesn't really matter tho, this team has far more problems than what 18 year old they pick this year.

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#2 mesa
April 16 2014, 12:04AM
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MAC T should threaten the league if u do not give us EKBLAD this year we r coming back next year for mc david.

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#3 Coco crisp
April 16 2014, 12:31AM
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McDavid is going to look good in oiler silks

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#4 Bucknuck
April 16 2014, 12:10AM
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If i had to go to the podium, I wouldn't know whether to pick Reinhart, Draisaitl, Ekblad, or Bennett. Since they are that close... I don't really care who they take.

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#5 Sorensenator
April 16 2014, 12:10AM
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Why do people keep saying they have been rebuilding for 8 years? That means they started to rebuild right after they lost game 7 in the Stanley cup finals to the Hurricanes... really?

Five years ago, the Oilers had the most lost man games to injury and basically had an AHL roster for the final 20 games under Pat Quinn. The REAL rebuild started the next year when they drafted Taylor Hall.

Sure they drafted Sam Gagner at 6th overall, however Oilers management was keen on picking up veteran pieces such as Lubomir Visnovsky and Sheldon Souray. That is not typical of a rebuild but rather a retool to try to contend.

The Oilers head into next year in their fifth year of the true rebuild and we all hope of better results.

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#6 6 ring circus
April 16 2014, 12:50AM
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Kevin Lowe will know who to pick,he knows a thing or two about winning and if Katz thinks Lowe knows what he's doing, who are we to disagree with him.It's only been 8 years since they made the playoffs, lets give them some more time.

(What a F--ken Joke!!!)

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#7 Drowning in Oil
April 15 2014, 11:20PM
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Doesnt matter who hey choose. The question is... How will they develop them? This team better get their s.h.iy together. 8 years is a hell of a long time for a rebuild and the people of this city who throw their money away to watch and support this team deserve better!!

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#8 Butters
April 15 2014, 11:51PM
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LD is big, but not a lot of penalty minutes. Does he play big? To me it might come down to which dog you want in the fight, the Pit Bull(Bennett) or the Labrador(Draisaitl). I think the Oilers will take the latter and I am not sure that is the right call. I could be wrong.

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#9 Quicksilver ballet
April 16 2014, 01:19AM
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Had tunnel vision for Ekblad all year, and will pray for a miracle that it still does happen. But if it isn't meant to be, all we can do is hope the kid they do take, turns out.

Beggars can't be choosers.

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#10 BLAKPOO
April 16 2014, 01:22AM
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RexHolez wrote:

- Don't have time to wait and see if Ekblad is worth the hype or just another bust like many other highly touted dman before him

- Leon seemed to disappear in the World juniors and prospect game. Makes me question him

I hope they go for Bennet, but they won't. Doesn't really matter tho, this team has far more problems than what 18 year old they pick this year.

It does matter.

When you get a 3rd overall pick, you should take the BPA, with the intention of seeing how he fits into the plan in 3-5 years, not next season. Like it or not, these picks will be vital to our future team success.

If the previous regimes put as much importance into the draft and preparing for the future as the club has in recent years, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Think of all the drafts we've blown in the last 15 years, and how much better our club could have been with better scouting, preparedness and asset management.

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#11 TonyT
April 16 2014, 10:15AM
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I think the Oilers take Draisatl, but I want Bennett because of his compete level.

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#12 tired
April 16 2014, 06:43AM
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And he shall be Leon and he shall be a good man

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#13 HockeyYodaDotcom
April 16 2014, 10:18AM
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Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty) wrote:

All of the top 4 look like players who will be above average NHL talent.

Not really knowing any of them, my concern with Bennett is that he is the smallest of the group and to date has experienced the most games missed due to injury.

My concern about Draisaitl is that he is a non- Canadian import. This usually carries some risk as well.

Bennett is 6' 180lbs. Draisaitl 6' 1.5" 209lbs.

Bennett +- is something like + 29 Draisaitl and Reinhart are plus single digit.

Like Kale said at #4 above....would be very interesting to see some analysis of each guys line mates.

I'm not here to toot my own horn but I have been very accurate in my assessment of draft picks in the past.

What concerns me about Draisaitl is that he disappointed in his only two opportunities to play against a higher level of competition. He was less than invisible at the world juniors. And he played poorly in the prospects game. Oh, and Craig Button loves him - which makes red flag number three. Contrast to Sean Monahan, who was outstanding in the super series, but didn't make team Canada because he didn't play well enough for Steve Spot's liking in scrimmages. (But that's another story)

For those of you too impatient too wait for a Dman to develop, make no mistake, Ekblad is better than Nurse already. And if available at 3, he can step right into a top 4 role on this team. There's a reason he was one of Team Canada's best players and Nurse didn't make the team. (Nothing against Nurse) You can't teach Ekblad's intensity and desire to improve his game. He has the same attitude as Crosby. For the record I was in that MacKinnon over Jones camp last year because I do agree Dmen hold a higher risk, but MacKinnon was an obvious stud pick to me. Ekblad is not an 18 yr old boy. He is a man.

Rienhart has proven he can elevate his game. If you watch his highlights, you'll see his ability to find pucks and create plays from all over the ice. At the least, he'll be a highly skilled second line center.

Bennett looks good too, but I would be a little concerned that many of his points are off the rush and behind the net wraparounds. He might have a little tougher time bringing these skill sets to the pro game. But if you dying for a centre, I agree he's the best option after Reinhart.

But here's another option if Ekblad and Reinhart are gone and you can stand taking a winger. Micheal Dal Colle is ranked 3 by the ISS. Yes, I know you want a centre or Dmen, but Dal Colle has size, skill and a tremendous shot. He's a natural goalscorer who can also make plays. The takeaway from this novel, don't take a chance on Draisaitl because you're desparate for a big centre.

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#14 sizzay
April 16 2014, 10:47AM
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HockeyYodaDotcom wrote:

I'm not here to toot my own horn but I have been very accurate in my assessment of draft picks in the past.

What concerns me about Draisaitl is that he disappointed in his only two opportunities to play against a higher level of competition. He was less than invisible at the world juniors. And he played poorly in the prospects game. Oh, and Craig Button loves him - which makes red flag number three. Contrast to Sean Monahan, who was outstanding in the super series, but didn't make team Canada because he didn't play well enough for Steve Spot's liking in scrimmages. (But that's another story)

For those of you too impatient too wait for a Dman to develop, make no mistake, Ekblad is better than Nurse already. And if available at 3, he can step right into a top 4 role on this team. There's a reason he was one of Team Canada's best players and Nurse didn't make the team. (Nothing against Nurse) You can't teach Ekblad's intensity and desire to improve his game. He has the same attitude as Crosby. For the record I was in that MacKinnon over Jones camp last year because I do agree Dmen hold a higher risk, but MacKinnon was an obvious stud pick to me. Ekblad is not an 18 yr old boy. He is a man.

Rienhart has proven he can elevate his game. If you watch his highlights, you'll see his ability to find pucks and create plays from all over the ice. At the least, he'll be a highly skilled second line center.

Bennett looks good too, but I would be a little concerned that many of his points are off the rush and behind the net wraparounds. He might have a little tougher time bringing these skill sets to the pro game. But if you dying for a centre, I agree he's the best option after Reinhart.

But here's another option if Ekblad and Reinhart are gone and you can stand taking a winger. Micheal Dal Colle is ranked 3 by the ISS. Yes, I know you want a centre or Dmen, but Dal Colle has size, skill and a tremendous shot. He's a natural goalscorer who can also make plays. The takeaway from this novel, don't take a chance on Draisaitl because you're desparate for a big centre.

Uhhh Draisaitl played top competition all year. He was the only star on the Raiders. He went head to head against Lazar and could've had about 15 points had his wingers buried their chances. The chances HE created from the corners and shielding the puck and dishing it into the slot on the tape.

As for the World Juniors - he played for Germany... GERMANY. 1 vs 5 every shift.

Top prospects game - Seguin didn't have a great game either. Turned out okay.

I agree with everything else you've said.

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#15 Toby
April 16 2014, 12:37AM
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Sorensenator wrote:

Why do people keep saying they have been rebuilding for 8 years? That means they started to rebuild right after they lost game 7 in the Stanley cup finals to the Hurricanes... really?

Five years ago, the Oilers had the most lost man games to injury and basically had an AHL roster for the final 20 games under Pat Quinn. The REAL rebuild started the next year when they drafted Taylor Hall.

Sure they drafted Sam Gagner at 6th overall, however Oilers management was keen on picking up veteran pieces such as Lubomir Visnovsky and Sheldon Souray. That is not typical of a rebuild but rather a retool to try to contend.

The Oilers head into next year in their fifth year of the true rebuild and we all hope of better results.

One reason many think the rebuild started 8 seasons ago is they lost 9 players after the 06' run to the SC finals.

The Oiler yes-men say it wasn't until they drafted Hall in 10'. Stauffer and numerous Edmonton sports writers re-write history on a weekly basis. Spin doctors every one.

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#16 mayorblaine
April 16 2014, 06:15AM
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Ekblad if available. without question.

from reports on radio and twitter from reputable people i've heard Draisaitl may have size but he doesn't use it exceptionally well. if so, what are we gaining by drafting him. he's not the best center. take the best center.

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#17 The Last Big Bear
April 16 2014, 08:19AM
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Sorensenator wrote:

Why do people keep saying they have been rebuilding for 8 years? That means they started to rebuild right after they lost game 7 in the Stanley cup finals to the Hurricanes... really?

Five years ago, the Oilers had the most lost man games to injury and basically had an AHL roster for the final 20 games under Pat Quinn. The REAL rebuild started the next year when they drafted Taylor Hall.

Sure they drafted Sam Gagner at 6th overall, however Oilers management was keen on picking up veteran pieces such as Lubomir Visnovsky and Sheldon Souray. That is not typical of a rebuild but rather a retool to try to contend.

The Oilers head into next year in their fifth year of the true rebuild and we all hope of better results.

Lol.

Just going to call a mulligan on the whole rebuild around Smid+Hemsky+Cogliano+Gagner+Brodziak+Schremp?

The reason people think it was a rebuild was because the Oilers gutted their roster, traded away their best player, and dressed 15 roster players between ages 18-25.

"But look", you say, "they acquired a veteran defenceman, that means it was never a rebuild!"

Kool-Aid and shenanigans.

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#18 Jeff
April 16 2014, 10:39AM
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The better question is who is the best two way player, since the organization, MacT and Easkins want 2 way players.

I fear if we draft the best of the offencive players, they are going to get frustrated like Nail.

Our Scotting and our Coach/GM need to be on the same page on who we are looking for in a player, than find that player in the draft.

Pick the best talent should always be the best play, however when that player does not fit in what the GM/Coach wants, whats the point.

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#19 WhattaMike
April 16 2014, 11:36AM
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First I wish to state that the Oilers need Eckblad most when considering the four to five top prospects in 2014. I say that the Oilers definitely take him in a flash at #4 myself or make a deal without offering up a stupid package with Florida.

Concerning the present open-minded idea of drafting Sam Reinhart at #3 if he's there, I have seen NHL teams in the past...(aka the Oilers)...pick draft prospects such as Pouliot becuase they scored tons of points on their junior team and were stars.

While he is ripping it up for Kootenay, Reinhart plays with great linemates on a very good junior team just as Pouliot once did alongside a super kid named Crosby.

We all know how Pouliot turned out.

Once Eckblad is gone (if he is by #3) the Oil should hold up not for Bennett or reinhart...but go for the big Draisaitl as I believe he is more like a Joe Thornton type guy and this is an excellent second line tpye centre to play with anyone of/or all.. of Hall, Ebs, Perron, Yakupov. Him and Yak could become a dynamic duo alone with his passing and strength to set up Yak's awesome shot.

That being said, the Oilers have until July 1st (I believe) to trade Gagner before his no trade for one yr kicks in. Unless the Oilers make him a third line winger to play with Gordon.... Put him and some prospects in a package for a very good top 4 defenceman to help Ference bring along and teach the kids (Petry, Schultz, Marancin, Klefbom, Nurse).

So.....If Eckblad's gone then...(as armchair GM)...Draisaitl is the next one for the Oilers.

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#20 Towersofdub
April 16 2014, 11:53AM
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as a grown man who only follows NHL hockey, i could care less which teenager the Oilers draft. It's unlikely that the kid they draft this summer is going to be the difference between 15th place and 8th place in the Western conference. That change will come from within, and from a combination of trade/free agency.

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#21 K_Mart
April 16 2014, 07:01AM
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Lyxdeslic wrote:

Draft Bennett and trade Yakupov straight up for Griffin Reinhart. Id also potentially trade Yakupov straight up for another top 5 pick in this draft.

I dunno maybe I'm too hard on the kid, but I wouldn't mind trading Yakpuov for Drasaitl or Dal Colle if possible.

I get it, Yak looked like garbage this year. But he's already proven he can score at the NHL level. The fair weather fans that want to trade Yak when his value is as low as it is now are crazy. The kid lost his confidence and doesnt know his role on this team, that's it. That's the reason, I believe, his decision making appeared to be so dreadful this year. If you want to trade him, you do it when his market value exceeds his team value. Right now, Perron is the only player here who fits that description.

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#22 Muji
April 16 2014, 12:00AM
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If MacT can improve the team with some smart moves this summer without giving up anything crazy, we're actually in promising shape.

Nurse, Klefbom, Yakupov, Bennett/Draisaitl/Ekblad are a nice group of prospects. The secret is to acquire enough actual NHLers (e.g. your Perrons, Ferences, Gordons, Smyths, Markovs, etc.) so that these kids aren't guaranteed a prominent spot and can learn in sheltered roles.

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#23 Danger Pay
April 16 2014, 01:41AM
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Eckblad or a Centre, the Oilers need both, just don't have the kids talking about making a push for the playoffs like they did last summer B/C we all know how that turned out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Bmkdaqrg-8

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#24 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
April 16 2014, 08:13AM
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LT when you say........"Yes. If, as Jason Gregor suggests, Florida takes Reinhart #1 overall, Buffalo may take the big defender. However, they have an impressive group of young defensemen either in the NHL (Myers, the dancing McCabes, Pysyk) or on the way (Zadorov, Ristolainen)."

"It isn't a slam dunk the Sabres take Ekblad."

I'm sure there are bloggers in Calgary and Long Island who are saying.."if Florida and Buffalo take centers, it isn't a slam dunk that the Oilers take Ekblad...they have an impressive group of young defensemen in Klefbom, Schultz, Marincin and Nurse...and they could really use a Bennett or Draisaitl at 2C"

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#25 The Last Big Bear
April 16 2014, 10:49AM
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Zarny wrote:

The Oilers were not "rebuilding" from 2006-07 to 2009-2010. They finished 19th in '06-07 as Lowe chased the dream thinking he could retool the roster for another run at the Cup.

No different than Calgary perennially duct taping their roster together deluding themselves into thinking Iggy and Kipper could carry the team for one last run IF they could just make the playoffs.

Chasing players with offer sheets and get turned down by UFA's is not rebuilding I'm afraid. After Heatley thumbed his nose at Edm and the 2006 roster had unraveled to a last place team they opted for the "rebuild" through the draft route. An unviable option in previous years considering Lowe had traded picks away for the run at the Cup.

That is when they traded away half their roster and started to rebuild.

You should try reality sometime...you'll like it.

The Flames kept their star players, duct taped a veteran roster together, and made the playoffs every year until 2010.

The Oilers traded away their only star player, gutted their roster, dressed a team consisting mostly of guys under 25, and never made the playoffs.

In what universe are these "no different"? One is pretty much the definition of rebuilding, the other is the opposite of rebuilding.

Yes, the Oilers acquired Visnovsky.

I'm pretty sure the Oilers are rebuilding now, and if there was a 31 year old Lubomir Visnovsky on the market right now, or a 6'4" 220lb 50 goal scorer in his prime, the Oilers would be moving the earth and sky to try to sign him. Which, according to you, means the Oilers are not rebuilding.

#koolaidlogic

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#26 Shawn Mullin
April 16 2014, 11:17AM
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I can't speak to Bennett, but I can say Draisaitl played generally with Dakota Conroy on his right wing and throughout the season usually Carson Perreaux or Chance Braid on his left from what I saw. Once Prince Albert added Valcourt from Saskatoon he played with Draisaitl some... but it was on and off from what I saw.

In saying that they weren't hugely high end wingers. Conroy was good enough to be a point per game guy and score 30 goals. However, he was very inconsistent and I think got a huge boost from who he was playing with. Perreaux and Braid are both basically physical grinders. Draisaitl was clearly the one carrying the water on the line. The play started with him and the puck was usually on his stick.

Reinhart meanwhile has had strong and skilled linemates with Kootenay. He is still clearly the best player on his team, but he is surrounded by more skill on his line than Draisaitl was without a doubt.

I'm not saying that puts Draisaitl about Reinhart because Reinhart because there are a million factors in making decisions like that. I'm just saying Reinhart has had better support on his line.

The other side of that is Draisaitl has Josh Morrissey to play with on D and Kootenay doesn't have anyone near that talented offensively on their back end.

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#27 nuge2nail
April 16 2014, 01:40AM
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Oiler Domination To Follow

Panthers will take Reinhert.

Sabres will take Bennett.

Oilers will take Ekblad.

Defencemen always drop at the draft... Hedman, Larsson, Jones, etc.

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#28 Twoskidoos
April 16 2014, 07:32AM
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@RexHolez

RNH didn't even make the WJ team his first time around.

Don't base your opinion on a very small sample size in which he was likely the lone exceptional player on a bad German team.

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#29 Zarny
April 16 2014, 11:53AM
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You can't help but laugh that some think the answer is another 18 y/o after spending all season dissecting the deficiencies of kids drafted 1st overall.

This is not a high-end draft year. Ekblad, Reinhart, Bennett, Draisaitl...none of them are projected to be generational talents. None are compared to McDavid or Eichel next year. None of them have Hall's pedigree. Nuge and Yakupov were as good or better prospects than all of them.

Plan A should be to trade the pick. Package it with Klefbom, Marincin, Schultz, Yak, Eberle or whoever is needed to bring in players ready to play now...not in 3-5 years. The only untouchable should be Hall.

And yes, whoever the Oilers trade away will likely be a very good NHL player. So what? That's fine.

The Kings traded away Schenn, Simmonds and Jack Johnson to get Carter and Richards and now they have a Cup. That is how MacT has to think. It doesn't matter if Klefbom or Marincin become good NHLers if we keep the other, have Nurse and get someone like Coburn or Myers back.

And enough with the silly suggestions that Edm won't get anything for their assets. NJ got Cory Schneider for the 9th overall pick last year and the Oilers are sitting on the 3rd pick. Dallas got Seguin, Peverley and a prospect for Eriksson and prospects Reilly Smith, Joe Morrow and Matt Fraser.

Other GM's don't care how long Edm has missed the playoffs or how many Oiler fans have wet their pants and think the sky is falling. If you offer assets they will listen. Full stop.

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#30 kale
April 15 2014, 11:50PM
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I know Reinhart has the benefit of playing with two linemates who are also ranked in the top 100 in this draft, including descheneau who was the player of the month in the whl, I have no clue who the other centers play with but that may give us more perspective on their true offensive abilities. Lowetide do you know who the other guys, meaning bennett and drasaitl had as linemates?

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#31 Fumanshu
April 16 2014, 06:27AM
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mayorblaine wrote:

Ekblad if available. without question.

from reports on radio and twitter from reputable people i've heard Draisaitl may have size but he doesn't use it exceptionally well. if so, what are we gaining by drafting him. he's not the best center. take the best center.

That's not true at all. He doesn't crash and bang but he protects the puck well, hence, using his size.

Read Tim Murray's comments. He knows more than anyone here.

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#32 Zarny
April 16 2014, 08:54AM
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The Last Big Bear wrote:

Lol.

Just going to call a mulligan on the whole rebuild around Smid+Hemsky+Cogliano+Gagner+Brodziak+Schremp?

The reason people think it was a rebuild was because the Oilers gutted their roster, traded away their best player, and dressed 15 roster players between ages 18-25.

"But look", you say, "they acquired a veteran defenceman, that means it was never a rebuild!"

Kool-Aid and shenanigans.

The Oilers were not "rebuilding" from 2006-07 to 2009-2010. They finished 19th in '06-07 as Lowe chased the dream thinking he could retool the roster for another run at the Cup.

No different than Calgary perennially duct taping their roster together deluding themselves into thinking Iggy and Kipper could carry the team for one last run IF they could just make the playoffs.

Chasing players with offer sheets and get turned down by UFA's is not rebuilding I'm afraid. After Heatley thumbed his nose at Edm and the 2006 roster had unraveled to a last place team they opted for the "rebuild" through the draft route. An unviable option in previous years considering Lowe had traded picks away for the run at the Cup.

That is when they traded away half their roster and started to rebuild.

You should try reality sometime...you'll like it.

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#33 Bob Cobb
April 16 2014, 10:33AM
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You know who else was a big Center, not overly physical, that could skate, from Prince Albert, Mike Modano. I'm not saying Draisaitl is Modano but if the ownership in Prince Albert got it right once, I'd take that as a good sign on Draisaitl and they are roughly the same size.

Than again what do I know after all it is all speculation at this point.

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#34 Tikkanese
April 16 2014, 03:33PM
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Zarny wrote:

The Oilers were not "rebuilding" from 2006-07 to 2009-2010. They finished 19th in '06-07 as Lowe chased the dream thinking he could retool the roster for another run at the Cup.

No different than Calgary perennially duct taping their roster together deluding themselves into thinking Iggy and Kipper could carry the team for one last run IF they could just make the playoffs.

Chasing players with offer sheets and get turned down by UFA's is not rebuilding I'm afraid. After Heatley thumbed his nose at Edm and the 2006 roster had unraveled to a last place team they opted for the "rebuild" through the draft route. An unviable option in previous years considering Lowe had traded picks away for the run at the Cup.

That is when they traded away half their roster and started to rebuild.

You should try reality sometime...you'll like it.

It may be technically since 2010 but to all of us old timers who witnessed the glory days it feels like a rebuild since 1993. We've basically either barely squeeked into the playoffs or missed out since then and really tanked it lately.

We've witnessed Ted Green 1st unit Powerplays featuring MacT and Bucky up front with Luke Richardson manning the point. To ressurections of Gord Mark. To Peter Klima leading the Oilers in points with 48 one season. 48 points. To a brief bit of glory with the Weight - Guerin - Smyth line who upset Dallas and Colorado in the first round and also our magical 2006. Other than that it has pretty much sucked since 1993.

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#35 Sorensenator
April 16 2014, 12:26AM
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RexHolez wrote:

- Don't have time to wait and see if Ekblad is worth the hype or just another bust like many other highly touted dman before him

- Leon seemed to disappear in the World juniors and prospect game. Makes me question him

I hope they go for Bennet, but they won't. Doesn't really matter tho, this team has far more problems than what 18 year old they pick this year.

Bennet? Yes lets draft another small skilled forward... At least Leon has size and strength. Also he played for Germany at the world juniors, one of the worst teams at the tournament, I was there in Sweden.

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#36 joe nosabonada
April 16 2014, 01:07AM
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Sorensenator wrote:

Why do people keep saying they have been rebuilding for 8 years? That means they started to rebuild right after they lost game 7 in the Stanley cup finals to the Hurricanes... really?

Five years ago, the Oilers had the most lost man games to injury and basically had an AHL roster for the final 20 games under Pat Quinn. The REAL rebuild started the next year when they drafted Taylor Hall.

Sure they drafted Sam Gagner at 6th overall, however Oilers management was keen on picking up veteran pieces such as Lubomir Visnovsky and Sheldon Souray. That is not typical of a rebuild but rather a retool to try to contend.

The Oilers head into next year in their fifth year of the true rebuild and we all hope of better results.

Before deciding on rebuilding anything it must first be broken down. Either by choice or by circumstances. The Oilers were forced into rebuilding by both. So yes, Taylor Hall marked the beginning of rebuilding.

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#37 Lyxdeslic
April 16 2014, 03:34AM
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Draft Bennett and trade Yakupov straight up for Griffin Reinhart. Id also potentially trade Yakupov straight up for another top 5 pick in this draft.

I dunno maybe I'm too hard on the kid, but I wouldn't mind trading Yakpuov for Drasaitl or Dal Colle if possible.

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#38 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
April 16 2014, 07:47AM
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Repost:

Was trying to get a read on just how physical a player Draisaitl is. Found the following.

He hasn't missed any games in two years of CHL hockey.

The following are quotes from scouts and analysts at nhl.com

"You want to talk about a miniature Jaromir Jagr with a Doug Gilmour-type intensity, you've got him right here," Central Scouting's Peter Sullivan told NHL.com.

"Leon is a great hockey player but also a great teammate," Tuomie said. "His skill level is unbelievable. He thinks the game very well and makes players around him look better."

"That kid works so hard every shift," Bordeleau said. "I don't see how this kid doesn't go early. There's no one in this draft class who can protect the puck like him."

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#39 Jake
April 16 2014, 11:51AM
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I think from reading reports that the Oilers would take in order.

1. Ekblad

2. Draisaitl

3. Bennett

4. Reinhart but only if they trade Yakupov or Eberle. Reinhart is too similar to what Oilers have already.

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#40 bwar
April 16 2014, 01:43PM
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1. Sam Reinhart 2. Aaron Ekblad 3. Sam Bennett

Oilers should end their first round scouting after those three. Draisaitl is a much bigger gamble than any of those three and should be completely removed from the conversation for the first round pick. Bennett should be the player that the Oilers are drooling over at #3 and if he gets grabbed earlier then the Oilers should still be ecstatic to get Reinhart or Ekblad. Don't trade the pick, don't gamble with the pick, just stick to the script and take one of the Sam's or the D-man.

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#41 jonny94
April 16 2014, 07:11AM
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Off topic but Bob Mckenzie just did a retweet that Anton Belov signed a 4 yr contract with the KHLs SKA.

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#42 Truth
April 16 2014, 08:35AM
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For all of you wanting to trade Yakupov away for a pick in this draft please realize he would easily be the best prospect in this draft class had he been a couple years younger.

http://oilersnation.com/2012/6/15/how-much-offense-did-yakupovs-knee-injury-cost-him

Yakupov was scoring at 2.04 pts/game prior to going down with a knee injury and 1.64 pts/game total in his draft year. It has always been my belief that he came back too early to prove that the knee would not be an ongoing issue and he is fit as a #1 overall.

He did have a rough season this year but who's to say any of these players will not stumble a bit prior to turning 20.

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#43 OilersDynasty
April 16 2014, 11:08AM
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Saw this trade idea posted on Lowetides twitter from a person:

To EDM Josh Bailey NYI 5th overall pick 2014

To NYI Sam Gagner EDM 2015 1st round pick

To EDM FLA 1st overall pick 2014

To FLA EDM 3rd overall pick 2014 NYI 5th overall pick 2014

It's intriguing. What do you guys think?

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#44 Pat
April 16 2014, 12:04AM
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Nick Ritchie is exactly the type of player we need i think...

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#45 Jordan Nugent-Hallkins
April 16 2014, 08:44AM
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Take Ekblad if he's there. I like Leon's size, but I like Bennett's tenacity. If Ekblad gets picked, I have no clue who they should take.

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#46 Stack Pad Save
April 16 2014, 01:23PM
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@A-Mc

I feel the complete opposite. This is the year the Oilers can't mess up by picking the best player available (cough Yakupov) and can actually take the player they need. 1 of Draisaitl, Bennet or Eckblad will be around. They are the player types the Oilers have a hole that needs to be filled..... Oilers need a second line center, as this season proved Gagner cannot be that person, maybe Bennet or Draisatle can be that person. The Oilers also have holes in their D corps, Eckblad will fill that role sooner than Nurse.

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#47 gk1980
April 16 2014, 02:55PM
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Sorensenator wrote:

Bennet? Yes lets draft another small skilled forward... At least Leon has size and strength. Also he played for Germany at the world juniors, one of the worst teams at the tournament, I was there in Sweden.

Serious!? Did you watch the world juniors, Leon was one of the most dynamic players in the tournament considering he was on a weak team.

He was absolutly the core of the German team, in fact the tournament is where I noticed this guy and knew he would go top 5. he was exceptional in the tournament.

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#48 A-Mc
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This is the first year where i'm actually nervous about what the selections might be at the draft. last year, it didnt really matter how things shook out, i was fairly certain we'd get nurse. But this year, it could go ANY which way. Eckblad and Draisaitl could go 1/2 based on size alone. It's not likely (with Reinhart kicking so much arse) but it's possible.

Player tenacity is a great thing, but at this point i think the Oilers literally need size/weight. I love how Perron plays, but i would probably choose a bigger skilled guy over another guy like Perron. At some point, we need players that can't be pushed around so easily and that comes with size; it doesn't mean our big guy is a goon or plays rough. The other side of it is that often big guys are less susceptible to injury (Draisaitl hasn't missed a game in 2 years, for example)

All the top guys are quite good in their own way, but i would love for the Oiler selection to come into the league already being at or heavier than the League average and not coming in at 185 where we can all hope he eventually hits 200.

205-215 as a starting point is excellent and i hope we get someone in there somewhere.

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#49 seriousy
April 16 2014, 04:57PM
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hagargt wrote:

Trade this year's 3rd overall plus Gagne to Buffalo for their next year's first overall.

Buffalo would then be picking 2nd, 3rd, and 5th (probably) in one draft giving them an awesome head start on a re-build.

Then next year the oiler with their high chance of shiating the bed again, and buffalo in the same boat, we might have a chance at two of the top three in a crazy good draft,or maybe even get the top two guys!

Why would buffalo trade a pick that could very well be McDavid... That makes no sense on their half...

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#50 pelhem grenville
April 16 2014, 04:45AM
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Lyxdeslic wrote:

Draft Bennett and trade Yakupov straight up for Griffin Reinhart. Id also potentially trade Yakupov straight up for another top 5 pick in this draft.

I dunno maybe I'm too hard on the kid, but I wouldn't mind trading Yakpuov for Drasaitl or Dal Colle if possible.

...with regard to your double post you said twice ..."[you]wouldn't mind trading Yakpuov for Drasaitl..." Draisaitl needs NOT to be traded for in any scenario...

imo 64 isn't going anywhere...he's needed on the right side along with Gagner who's a smurf & can't play centre and he's gonna get moved anyway when Draisaitl comes to the Oilers 3rd overall...

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