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Lowetide
April 15 2014 11:15PM

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The Edmonton Oilers didn't win the draft lottery, and that's a news story. The club has had three number one overall selections in recent seasons and had a good shot at another, but the Florida Panthers won the day and are now on the clock. Does it change the Oilers plans? Yes. And not really.

BE BAD, FOR EKBLAD!

Most Oiler fans probably feel the team's chances at Aaron Ekblad are gone now, but the draft is a tricky item. Remember Seth Jones one year ago? Fell all the way to Memphis Nashville, and it could happen again.

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HIGH C'S

There are three centermen available, and the Oilers will get a crack at least one of them on draft day. We compared their even scoring and their power-play production early in the year.

EVEN STRENGTH

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Reinhart is the best offensive player at even strength, but this is close. I'd say all three of these players are going to have enough ability to play top 6F in the NHL. That shouldn't come as a surprise, but there were questions about Draisaitl's offense (and Bennett's too) and this graph addresses those concerns.

POWERPLAY

TOP 3F ON PP

Interesting. We don't have TOI totals, but the two WHL kids appear to be either more effective or more fortunate than Bennett. That doesn't mean they are better players—coaches make decisions based on their rosters and Bennett may have been used in a secondary manner.

IS THERE A WAY FOR EDMONTON TO GET EKBLAD?

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Yes. If, as Jason Gregor suggests, Florida takes Reinhart #1 overall, Buffalo may take the big defender. However, they have an impressive group of young defensemen either in the NHL (Myers, the dancing McCabes, Pysyk) or on the way (Zadorov, Ristolainen).

It isn't a slam dunk the Sabres take Ekblad.


WHAT'S YOUR BEST GUESS?

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If you're heading to Vegas, bet Leoni.

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#1 Lyxdeslic
April 16 2014, 03:34AM
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Draft Bennett and trade Yakupov straight up for Griffin Reinhart. Id also potentially trade Yakupov straight up for another top 5 pick in this draft.

I dunno maybe I'm too hard on the kid, but I wouldn't mind trading Yakpuov for Drasaitl or Dal Colle if possible.

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#2 OilersDynasty
April 16 2014, 11:08AM
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Saw this trade idea posted on Lowetides twitter from a person:

To EDM Josh Bailey NYI 5th overall pick 2014

To NYI Sam Gagner EDM 2015 1st round pick

To EDM FLA 1st overall pick 2014

To FLA EDM 3rd overall pick 2014 NYI 5th overall pick 2014

It's intriguing. What do you guys think?

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#3 Drowning in Oil
April 15 2014, 11:20PM
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Doesnt matter who hey choose. The question is... How will they develop them? This team better get their s.h.iy together. 8 years is a hell of a long time for a rebuild and the people of this city who throw their money away to watch and support this team deserve better!!

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#4 nuge2nail
April 16 2014, 01:40AM
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Oiler Domination To Follow

Panthers will take Reinhert.

Sabres will take Bennett.

Oilers will take Ekblad.

Defencemen always drop at the draft... Hedman, Larsson, Jones, etc.

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#5 Lyxdeslic
April 16 2014, 03:34AM
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Draft Bennett and trade Yakupov straight up for Griffin Reinhart. Id also potentially trade Yakupov straight up for another top 5 pick in this draft.

I dunno maybe I'm too hard on the kid, but I wouldn't mind trading Yakpuov for Drasaitl or Dal Colle if possible.

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#6 Sorensenator
April 16 2014, 12:10AM
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Why do people keep saying they have been rebuilding for 8 years? That means they started to rebuild right after they lost game 7 in the Stanley cup finals to the Hurricanes... really?

Five years ago, the Oilers had the most lost man games to injury and basically had an AHL roster for the final 20 games under Pat Quinn. The REAL rebuild started the next year when they drafted Taylor Hall.

Sure they drafted Sam Gagner at 6th overall, however Oilers management was keen on picking up veteran pieces such as Lubomir Visnovsky and Sheldon Souray. That is not typical of a rebuild but rather a retool to try to contend.

The Oilers head into next year in their fifth year of the true rebuild and we all hope of better results.

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#7 Anton CP
April 16 2014, 03:43AM
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Just 7 months ago that Nick Ritchie was the No.1 prospect by central scouting, now he dropped to 7th. The reason for that because of injury concerns but other than that he is a great prospect. He has the size and the skill sets, he has speed for a 235lbs. A few years back that I was hoping Oilers would trade down RNH and draft Couturier instead because of his skills sets and I actually hope Oilers can do the same again and draft Ritchie instead.

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#8 Sorensenator
April 16 2014, 12:26AM
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RexHolez wrote:

- Don't have time to wait and see if Ekblad is worth the hype or just another bust like many other highly touted dman before him

- Leon seemed to disappear in the World juniors and prospect game. Makes me question him

I hope they go for Bennet, but they won't. Doesn't really matter tho, this team has far more problems than what 18 year old they pick this year.

Bennet? Yes lets draft another small skilled forward... At least Leon has size and strength. Also he played for Germany at the world juniors, one of the worst teams at the tournament, I was there in Sweden.

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#9 RexHolez
April 15 2014, 11:33PM
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- Don't have time to wait and see if Ekblad is worth the hype or just another bust like many other highly touted dman before him

- Leon seemed to disappear in the World juniors and prospect game. Makes me question him

I hope they go for Bennet, but they won't. Doesn't really matter tho, this team has far more problems than what 18 year old they pick this year.

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#10 Toby
April 16 2014, 12:37AM
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Sorensenator wrote:

Why do people keep saying they have been rebuilding for 8 years? That means they started to rebuild right after they lost game 7 in the Stanley cup finals to the Hurricanes... really?

Five years ago, the Oilers had the most lost man games to injury and basically had an AHL roster for the final 20 games under Pat Quinn. The REAL rebuild started the next year when they drafted Taylor Hall.

Sure they drafted Sam Gagner at 6th overall, however Oilers management was keen on picking up veteran pieces such as Lubomir Visnovsky and Sheldon Souray. That is not typical of a rebuild but rather a retool to try to contend.

The Oilers head into next year in their fifth year of the true rebuild and we all hope of better results.

One reason many think the rebuild started 8 seasons ago is they lost 9 players after the 06' run to the SC finals.

The Oiler yes-men say it wasn't until they drafted Hall in 10'. Stauffer and numerous Edmonton sports writers re-write history on a weekly basis. Spin doctors every one.

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#11 Zarny
April 16 2014, 11:53AM
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You can't help but laugh that some think the answer is another 18 y/o after spending all season dissecting the deficiencies of kids drafted 1st overall.

This is not a high-end draft year. Ekblad, Reinhart, Bennett, Draisaitl...none of them are projected to be generational talents. None are compared to McDavid or Eichel next year. None of them have Hall's pedigree. Nuge and Yakupov were as good or better prospects than all of them.

Plan A should be to trade the pick. Package it with Klefbom, Marincin, Schultz, Yak, Eberle or whoever is needed to bring in players ready to play now...not in 3-5 years. The only untouchable should be Hall.

And yes, whoever the Oilers trade away will likely be a very good NHL player. So what? That's fine.

The Kings traded away Schenn, Simmonds and Jack Johnson to get Carter and Richards and now they have a Cup. That is how MacT has to think. It doesn't matter if Klefbom or Marincin become good NHLers if we keep the other, have Nurse and get someone like Coburn or Myers back.

And enough with the silly suggestions that Edm won't get anything for their assets. NJ got Cory Schneider for the 9th overall pick last year and the Oilers are sitting on the 3rd pick. Dallas got Seguin, Peverley and a prospect for Eriksson and prospects Reilly Smith, Joe Morrow and Matt Fraser.

Other GM's don't care how long Edm has missed the playoffs or how many Oiler fans have wet their pants and think the sky is falling. If you offer assets they will listen. Full stop.

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#12 6 ring circus
April 16 2014, 12:50AM
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Kevin Lowe will know who to pick,he knows a thing or two about winning and if Katz thinks Lowe knows what he's doing, who are we to disagree with him.It's only been 8 years since they made the playoffs, lets give them some more time.

(What a F--ken Joke!!!)

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#13 oilguy
April 16 2014, 04:16PM
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trade eberle, gagner, 2014 1st round pick and david musil to NYI for Tavares...

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#14 Pat
April 16 2014, 12:04AM
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Nick Ritchie is exactly the type of player we need i think...

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#15 The artist formerly known as Harry
April 16 2014, 08:46AM
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BLAKPOO wrote:

It does matter.

When you get a 3rd overall pick, you should take the BPA, with the intention of seeing how he fits into the plan in 3-5 years, not next season. Like it or not, these picks will be vital to our future team success.

If the previous regimes put as much importance into the draft and preparing for the future as the club has in recent years, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Think of all the drafts we've blown in the last 15 years, and how much better our club could have been with better scouting, preparedness and asset management.

WRONG!! Best player available for the first two top five picks yes but after that the Oilers should have drafted for need and took Murray over Yakupov. And now you want to add another small forward to the mix? When are Oilers fans gonna realize that we need size!

All I know about Leon is from what I see in the numbers so if they Oilers think hes there guy draft him. If not package the pick with Gagner to Phiily or Colorado and get Couturier or Orielly for it

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#16 HockeyYodaDotcom
April 16 2014, 10:18AM
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Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty) wrote:

All of the top 4 look like players who will be above average NHL talent.

Not really knowing any of them, my concern with Bennett is that he is the smallest of the group and to date has experienced the most games missed due to injury.

My concern about Draisaitl is that he is a non- Canadian import. This usually carries some risk as well.

Bennett is 6' 180lbs. Draisaitl 6' 1.5" 209lbs.

Bennett +- is something like + 29 Draisaitl and Reinhart are plus single digit.

Like Kale said at #4 above....would be very interesting to see some analysis of each guys line mates.

I'm not here to toot my own horn but I have been very accurate in my assessment of draft picks in the past.

What concerns me about Draisaitl is that he disappointed in his only two opportunities to play against a higher level of competition. He was less than invisible at the world juniors. And he played poorly in the prospects game. Oh, and Craig Button loves him - which makes red flag number three. Contrast to Sean Monahan, who was outstanding in the super series, but didn't make team Canada because he didn't play well enough for Steve Spot's liking in scrimmages. (But that's another story)

For those of you too impatient too wait for a Dman to develop, make no mistake, Ekblad is better than Nurse already. And if available at 3, he can step right into a top 4 role on this team. There's a reason he was one of Team Canada's best players and Nurse didn't make the team. (Nothing against Nurse) You can't teach Ekblad's intensity and desire to improve his game. He has the same attitude as Crosby. For the record I was in that MacKinnon over Jones camp last year because I do agree Dmen hold a higher risk, but MacKinnon was an obvious stud pick to me. Ekblad is not an 18 yr old boy. He is a man.

Rienhart has proven he can elevate his game. If you watch his highlights, you'll see his ability to find pucks and create plays from all over the ice. At the least, he'll be a highly skilled second line center.

Bennett looks good too, but I would be a little concerned that many of his points are off the rush and behind the net wraparounds. He might have a little tougher time bringing these skill sets to the pro game. But if you dying for a centre, I agree he's the best option after Reinhart.

But here's another option if Ekblad and Reinhart are gone and you can stand taking a winger. Micheal Dal Colle is ranked 3 by the ISS. Yes, I know you want a centre or Dmen, but Dal Colle has size, skill and a tremendous shot. He's a natural goalscorer who can also make plays. The takeaway from this novel, don't take a chance on Draisaitl because you're desparate for a big centre.

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#17 The artist formerly known as Harry
April 16 2014, 10:34AM
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HockeyYodaDotcom wrote:

I'm not here to toot my own horn but I have been very accurate in my assessment of draft picks in the past.

What concerns me about Draisaitl is that he disappointed in his only two opportunities to play against a higher level of competition. He was less than invisible at the world juniors. And he played poorly in the prospects game. Oh, and Craig Button loves him - which makes red flag number three. Contrast to Sean Monahan, who was outstanding in the super series, but didn't make team Canada because he didn't play well enough for Steve Spot's liking in scrimmages. (But that's another story)

For those of you too impatient too wait for a Dman to develop, make no mistake, Ekblad is better than Nurse already. And if available at 3, he can step right into a top 4 role on this team. There's a reason he was one of Team Canada's best players and Nurse didn't make the team. (Nothing against Nurse) You can't teach Ekblad's intensity and desire to improve his game. He has the same attitude as Crosby. For the record I was in that MacKinnon over Jones camp last year because I do agree Dmen hold a higher risk, but MacKinnon was an obvious stud pick to me. Ekblad is not an 18 yr old boy. He is a man.

Rienhart has proven he can elevate his game. If you watch his highlights, you'll see his ability to find pucks and create plays from all over the ice. At the least, he'll be a highly skilled second line center.

Bennett looks good too, but I would be a little concerned that many of his points are off the rush and behind the net wraparounds. He might have a little tougher time bringing these skill sets to the pro game. But if you dying for a centre, I agree he's the best option after Reinhart.

But here's another option if Ekblad and Reinhart are gone and you can stand taking a winger. Micheal Dal Colle is ranked 3 by the ISS. Yes, I know you want a centre or Dmen, but Dal Colle has size, skill and a tremendous shot. He's a natural goalscorer who can also make plays. The takeaway from this novel, don't take a chance on Draisaitl because you're desparate for a big centre.

Very well said. Ekblad is a stud dman and if theres as much risk as people are saying about Drisaitl dont take him.

So if Ekblads gone. Trade the pick or offer Gagner and our first to FLA for the first overall

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#18 Ari Gold
April 16 2014, 08:51AM
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Why are we so concerned with players that won't even be serviceable for years to come.

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#19 Zarny
April 16 2014, 08:54AM
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The Last Big Bear wrote:

Lol.

Just going to call a mulligan on the whole rebuild around Smid+Hemsky+Cogliano+Gagner+Brodziak+Schremp?

The reason people think it was a rebuild was because the Oilers gutted their roster, traded away their best player, and dressed 15 roster players between ages 18-25.

"But look", you say, "they acquired a veteran defenceman, that means it was never a rebuild!"

Kool-Aid and shenanigans.

The Oilers were not "rebuilding" from 2006-07 to 2009-2010. They finished 19th in '06-07 as Lowe chased the dream thinking he could retool the roster for another run at the Cup.

No different than Calgary perennially duct taping their roster together deluding themselves into thinking Iggy and Kipper could carry the team for one last run IF they could just make the playoffs.

Chasing players with offer sheets and get turned down by UFA's is not rebuilding I'm afraid. After Heatley thumbed his nose at Edm and the 2006 roster had unraveled to a last place team they opted for the "rebuild" through the draft route. An unviable option in previous years considering Lowe had traded picks away for the run at the Cup.

That is when they traded away half their roster and started to rebuild.

You should try reality sometime...you'll like it.

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#20 WhattaMike
April 15 2014, 11:49PM
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IMO, I believe that Eckblad goes to florida to line up with Gudbranson as their top pairing due to this team having Huberdeau already being their future top centre.

I can clearly see Buffalo then taking Sam Reinhart as their top 2nd overall pick due to having a bunch of young defencemen prospects already.

What I think of the Oilers for this draft is that one of two things happen here. They either pick Draisaitl or Bennett to tag-team with RNH...with while moving Gagner in a trade type package (for say a high end defender or a second rounder in the draft) and/or he goes over to wing...or... they go to the Islanders and switch the 3rd and the 5th picks...with trying to get Griffin Reinhart back in Oil Country.

A very slight and unlikely other type choice is that soemone offers a top notch defencemen for that 3rd overaqll pick.

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#21 joe nosabonada
April 16 2014, 01:07AM
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Sorensenator wrote:

Why do people keep saying they have been rebuilding for 8 years? That means they started to rebuild right after they lost game 7 in the Stanley cup finals to the Hurricanes... really?

Five years ago, the Oilers had the most lost man games to injury and basically had an AHL roster for the final 20 games under Pat Quinn. The REAL rebuild started the next year when they drafted Taylor Hall.

Sure they drafted Sam Gagner at 6th overall, however Oilers management was keen on picking up veteran pieces such as Lubomir Visnovsky and Sheldon Souray. That is not typical of a rebuild but rather a retool to try to contend.

The Oilers head into next year in their fifth year of the true rebuild and we all hope of better results.

Before deciding on rebuilding anything it must first be broken down. Either by choice or by circumstances. The Oilers were forced into rebuilding by both. So yes, Taylor Hall marked the beginning of rebuilding.

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#22 The Last Big Bear
April 16 2014, 08:19AM
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Sorensenator wrote:

Why do people keep saying they have been rebuilding for 8 years? That means they started to rebuild right after they lost game 7 in the Stanley cup finals to the Hurricanes... really?

Five years ago, the Oilers had the most lost man games to injury and basically had an AHL roster for the final 20 games under Pat Quinn. The REAL rebuild started the next year when they drafted Taylor Hall.

Sure they drafted Sam Gagner at 6th overall, however Oilers management was keen on picking up veteran pieces such as Lubomir Visnovsky and Sheldon Souray. That is not typical of a rebuild but rather a retool to try to contend.

The Oilers head into next year in their fifth year of the true rebuild and we all hope of better results.

Lol.

Just going to call a mulligan on the whole rebuild around Smid+Hemsky+Cogliano+Gagner+Brodziak+Schremp?

The reason people think it was a rebuild was because the Oilers gutted their roster, traded away their best player, and dressed 15 roster players between ages 18-25.

"But look", you say, "they acquired a veteran defenceman, that means it was never a rebuild!"

Kool-Aid and shenanigans.

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#23 WhattaMike
April 16 2014, 11:36AM
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First I wish to state that the Oilers need Eckblad most when considering the four to five top prospects in 2014. I say that the Oilers definitely take him in a flash at #4 myself or make a deal without offering up a stupid package with Florida.

Concerning the present open-minded idea of drafting Sam Reinhart at #3 if he's there, I have seen NHL teams in the past...(aka the Oilers)...pick draft prospects such as Pouliot becuase they scored tons of points on their junior team and were stars.

While he is ripping it up for Kootenay, Reinhart plays with great linemates on a very good junior team just as Pouliot once did alongside a super kid named Crosby.

We all know how Pouliot turned out.

Once Eckblad is gone (if he is by #3) the Oil should hold up not for Bennett or reinhart...but go for the big Draisaitl as I believe he is more like a Joe Thornton type guy and this is an excellent second line tpye centre to play with anyone of/or all.. of Hall, Ebs, Perron, Yakupov. Him and Yak could become a dynamic duo alone with his passing and strength to set up Yak's awesome shot.

That being said, the Oilers have until July 1st (I believe) to trade Gagner before his no trade for one yr kicks in. Unless the Oilers make him a third line winger to play with Gordon.... Put him and some prospects in a package for a very good top 4 defenceman to help Ference bring along and teach the kids (Petry, Schultz, Marancin, Klefbom, Nurse).

So.....If Eckblad's gone then...(as armchair GM)...Draisaitl is the next one for the Oilers.

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#24 Coco crisp
April 16 2014, 12:31AM
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McDavid is going to look good in oiler silks

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#25 TonyT
April 16 2014, 10:15AM
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I think the Oilers take Draisatl, but I want Bennett because of his compete level.

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#26 Zarny
April 16 2014, 11:56AM
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@WhattaMike

Pouliot didn't play with Crosby in his draft year since Crosby wasn't even on the team yet.

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#27 CaptainLander
April 16 2014, 01:45PM
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Gags and the pick for Seabrook? That what worth it?

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#28 The Ghost of Jari Kurri
April 15 2014, 11:54PM
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I believe the answer that you are looking for is... Mike Lah-Rey!

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#29 Bob Cob
April 16 2014, 10:33AM
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You know who else was a big Center, not overly physical, that could skate, from Prince Albert, Mike Modano. I'm not saying Draisaitl is Modano but if the ownership in Prince Albert got it right once, I'd take that as a good sign on Draisaitl and they are roughly the same size.

Than again what do I know after all it is all speculation at this point.

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#30 bwar
April 16 2014, 01:43PM
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1. Sam Reinhart 2. Aaron Ekblad 3. Sam Bennett

Oilers should end their first round scouting after those three. Draisaitl is a much bigger gamble than any of those three and should be completely removed from the conversation for the first round pick. Bennett should be the player that the Oilers are drooling over at #3 and if he gets grabbed earlier then the Oilers should still be ecstatic to get Reinhart or Ekblad. Don't trade the pick, don't gamble with the pick, just stick to the script and take one of the Sam's or the D-man.

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#31 blainer
April 16 2014, 09:18AM
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Zarny wrote:

The Oilers were not "rebuilding" from 2006-07 to 2009-2010. They finished 19th in '06-07 as Lowe chased the dream thinking he could retool the roster for another run at the Cup.

No different than Calgary perennially duct taping their roster together deluding themselves into thinking Iggy and Kipper could carry the team for one last run IF they could just make the playoffs.

Chasing players with offer sheets and get turned down by UFA's is not rebuilding I'm afraid. After Heatley thumbed his nose at Edm and the 2006 roster had unraveled to a last place team they opted for the "rebuild" through the draft route. An unviable option in previous years considering Lowe had traded picks away for the run at the Cup.

That is when they traded away half their roster and started to rebuild.

You should try reality sometime...you'll like it.

This statement is 100% accurate. We started the rebuild after the Heatley(options) fiasco. The oilers realised at that point that they were not gonna be able to sign free agents.

After the season with all the injuries they drafted Hall and so the rebuild began. This has not just been a rebuild..they started from scratch. I don't remember seeing a team being so far behind. They didn't even have their own minor league team. As a result it is taking alittle longer than everyone has hoped. We are getting very close and I think this last year and the pick we are getting is crucial.

I personally am glad that if we missed the playoffs...miss it to the point we are drafting in the top five and get that center we desperatley need. Remember we were told the rebuild is gonna take 5 years. We ae almost done. Our prospects are almost there. This rebuild is going the right way ..like it or not..Bring on Draisaitl

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#32 The Last Big Bear
April 16 2014, 10:49AM
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Zarny wrote:

The Oilers were not "rebuilding" from 2006-07 to 2009-2010. They finished 19th in '06-07 as Lowe chased the dream thinking he could retool the roster for another run at the Cup.

No different than Calgary perennially duct taping their roster together deluding themselves into thinking Iggy and Kipper could carry the team for one last run IF they could just make the playoffs.

Chasing players with offer sheets and get turned down by UFA's is not rebuilding I'm afraid. After Heatley thumbed his nose at Edm and the 2006 roster had unraveled to a last place team they opted for the "rebuild" through the draft route. An unviable option in previous years considering Lowe had traded picks away for the run at the Cup.

That is when they traded away half their roster and started to rebuild.

You should try reality sometime...you'll like it.

The Flames kept their star players, duct taped a veteran roster together, and made the playoffs every year until 2010.

The Oilers traded away their only star player, gutted their roster, dressed a team consisting mostly of guys under 25, and never made the playoffs.

In what universe are these "no different"? One is pretty much the definition of rebuilding, the other is the opposite of rebuilding.

Yes, the Oilers acquired Visnovsky.

I'm pretty sure the Oilers are rebuilding now, and if there was a 31 year old Lubomir Visnovsky on the market right now, or a 6'4" 220lb 50 goal scorer in his prime, the Oilers would be moving the earth and sky to try to sign him. Which, according to you, means the Oilers are not rebuilding.

#koolaidlogic

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#33 Towersofdub
April 16 2014, 11:53AM
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as a grown man who only follows NHL hockey, i could care less which teenager the Oilers draft. It's unlikely that the kid they draft this summer is going to be the difference between 15th place and 8th place in the Western conference. That change will come from within, and from a combination of trade/free agency.

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#34 Butters
April 15 2014, 11:51PM
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LD is big, but not a lot of penalty minutes. Does he play big? To me it might come down to which dog you want in the fight, the Pit Bull(Bennett) or the Labrador(Draisaitl). I think the Oilers will take the latter and I am not sure that is the right call. I could be wrong.

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#35 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
April 16 2014, 07:49AM
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On a previous post I polled the scenario where Ekblad and Reinhart are gone and our choice is Bennett or Draisaitl.

Bennett won 68 to 57.

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#36 DT
April 16 2014, 09:03AM
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@The Last Big Bear

In 2007, they finished with 71 points. They were competing for a playoff spot until the trade deadline, then got hit with injuries. I remember they had to bring in a kid from the Q on an emergency tryout because every defenceman was hurt. Trading Smythy didn't help. 2008 they finished with 88 points. 2009 they finished with 85 points. That doesn't sound like a rebuilding team to me.

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#37 The Last Big Bear
April 16 2014, 03:38PM
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@Sorensenator

A quick check of the 2007-08 season and it looks like only 1 of the Oilers top 9 scoring forwards was over the age of 25.

This year four of them were.

Can we maybe define what a rebuild is then, because if that's not a rebuild to you then you're clearly talking about something vastly different from the rest of the hockey world.

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#38 Chambers
April 16 2014, 06:43PM
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OilersDynasty wrote:

Saw this trade idea posted on Lowetides twitter from a person:

To EDM Josh Bailey NYI 5th overall pick 2014

To NYI Sam Gagner EDM 2015 1st round pick

To EDM FLA 1st overall pick 2014

To FLA EDM 3rd overall pick 2014 NYI 5th overall pick 2014

It's intriguing. What do you guys think?

29 other teams are just waiting for Edmonton's garbage players for quality players in return...hahahah!

Your logic is no different than 6 rings and MacT. Expect to obtain better players without giving up any of your first overalls. What a joke. In fact it is becoming obvious the Oiler 1st overalls appear to have little market value. They have lost their confidence, are overpaid (gap contracts avoided by management) and they have a losing culture. They simply do not know how to win.

Keep dreaming..another 5 years of bottom 5 finishes at a minimum!

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#39 hagargt
April 17 2014, 12:53AM
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Woogie63 wrote:

Lots are writing we need a 2C, why is RNH the only choice for 1C?

RNH is loaded with talent, but serious competition will make him better ...

Rienhart

Bennett

Then Drisaital

Wow!! Nugent isn't even close to being a 2 c on any team in the league save for the oilers...

I tried to write a big meaningful thing after that point, but nothing came.

Put Nuge as a second center on LA, Loius, Chicago, or the ducks... I don't see anything but negative.

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#40 Muji
April 16 2014, 12:00AM
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If MacT can improve the team with some smart moves this summer without giving up anything crazy, we're actually in promising shape.

Nurse, Klefbom, Yakupov, Bennett/Draisaitl/Ekblad are a nice group of prospects. The secret is to acquire enough actual NHLers (e.g. your Perrons, Ferences, Gordons, Smyths, Markovs, etc.) so that these kids aren't guaranteed a prominent spot and can learn in sheltered roles.

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#41 mesa
April 16 2014, 12:04AM
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MAC T should threaten the league if u do not give us EKBLAD this year we r coming back next year for mc david.

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#42 Bucknuck
April 16 2014, 12:10AM
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If i had to go to the podium, I wouldn't know whether to pick Reinhart, Draisaitl, Ekblad, or Bennett. Since they are that close... I don't really care who they take.

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#43 Quicksilver ballet
April 16 2014, 01:19AM
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Had tunnel vision for Ekblad all year, and will pray for a miracle that it still does happen. But if it isn't meant to be, all we can do is hope the kid they do take, turns out.

Beggars can't be choosers.

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#44 pelhem grenville
April 16 2014, 04:45AM
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Lyxdeslic wrote:

Draft Bennett and trade Yakupov straight up for Griffin Reinhart. Id also potentially trade Yakupov straight up for another top 5 pick in this draft.

I dunno maybe I'm too hard on the kid, but I wouldn't mind trading Yakpuov for Drasaitl or Dal Colle if possible.

...with regard to your double post you said twice ..."[you]wouldn't mind trading Yakpuov for Drasaitl..." Draisaitl needs NOT to be traded for in any scenario...

imo 64 isn't going anywhere...he's needed on the right side along with Gagner who's a smurf & can't play centre and he's gonna get moved anyway when Draisaitl comes to the Oilers 3rd overall...

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#45 OilersDynasty
April 16 2014, 11:10AM
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I also think MacT needs to make a trade for a mid round pick and get Alex Tuch. Mans a beast. 6'3-220

http://thehockeywriters.com/alex-tuch/

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#46 Mustangheart
April 16 2014, 06:21PM
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Stack Pad Save wrote:

I feel the complete opposite. This is the year the Oilers can't mess up by picking the best player available (cough Yakupov) and can actually take the player they need. 1 of Draisaitl, Bennet or Eckblad will be around. They are the player types the Oilers have a hole that needs to be filled..... Oilers need a second line center, as this season proved Gagner cannot be that person, maybe Bennet or Draisatle can be that person. The Oilers also have holes in their D corps, Eckblad will fill that role sooner than Nurse.

I agree completely.

I would work backwards and start discussing now with other GM's what they would want in a trade for the likes of a Weber (a top 1D or a two way 2C)

Regardless of who they pick in the draft, they will not make a huge impact for the first couple years. The Oilers need experience NOW. The fans will not accept another year like the last 8.

Except the top line of Hall, Eberle and the Nuge, Perron and Shultz, and the 2 goalies, all others are expandable.

Trade the pick if need be, to land that 1st D or 2nd C. For the Oilers even to have a dream of making the playoffs next year, these are two crucial pieces that need to be in place before training camp.

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#47 mayorblaine
April 16 2014, 06:15AM
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Ekblad if available. without question.

from reports on radio and twitter from reputable people i've heard Draisaitl may have size but he doesn't use it exceptionally well. if so, what are we gaining by drafting him. he's not the best center. take the best center.

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#48 Fumanshu
April 16 2014, 06:27AM
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mayorblaine wrote:

Ekblad if available. without question.

from reports on radio and twitter from reputable people i've heard Draisaitl may have size but he doesn't use it exceptionally well. if so, what are we gaining by drafting him. he's not the best center. take the best center.

That's not true at all. He doesn't crash and bang but he protects the puck well, hence, using his size.

Read Tim Murray's comments. He knows more than anyone here.

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#49 K_Mart
April 16 2014, 07:01AM
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Lyxdeslic wrote:

Draft Bennett and trade Yakupov straight up for Griffin Reinhart. Id also potentially trade Yakupov straight up for another top 5 pick in this draft.

I dunno maybe I'm too hard on the kid, but I wouldn't mind trading Yakpuov for Drasaitl or Dal Colle if possible.

I get it, Yak looked like garbage this year. But he's already proven he can score at the NHL level. The fair weather fans that want to trade Yak when his value is as low as it is now are crazy. The kid lost his confidence and doesnt know his role on this team, that's it. That's the reason, I believe, his decision making appeared to be so dreadful this year. If you want to trade him, you do it when his market value exceeds his team value. Right now, Perron is the only player here who fits that description.

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#50 HockeyYodaDotcom
April 16 2014, 11:45AM
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@sizzay

I consider higher competition something more than a match-up against another junior team. Such as the prospects game or world junior.

Yes he played for Germany, and I wasn't expecting Draisaitl to walk around people. But I do want to see him protect the puck well, create space for himself when he gets possession and then make a nice pass. I just didn't see that. Could he turn out great? Sure. I just think there's added risk with the warning signs I had stated. And the options look better IMO. I don't think the Oil can afford a miss.

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