Playoff Thoughts: Breaking a few Eggs to make an Omelette

Jason Strudwick
April 21 2014 05:16PM

Lucic

Milan Lucic is one of the most unique players in the NHL. His combination of skill, size and absolute nastiness are hard to find. He is the type of player that really affects a lineup. He gives attitude and confidence to every one of his teammates. As a coach or GM I would welcome him on my team anytime.

The other night during the Bruins first round match up with the Red Wings, Lucic had an incident with Wings defenceman Danny DeKeyser. The common word used to describe the incident was “spearing”. I don’t think it was a spear. To me a spear is when you use the top of your stick like a knife. You poke it right at another player’s body to cause pain. 

Lucic used the shaft of his stick, not to the blade. This was not a spearing situation. So it falls into a grey zone. I would probably describe it as a slash.

He was fined 5k for this slash. Twitter was all up in arms about the lack of suspension. ARE YOU KIDDING ME???? Suspension for a slash?

It was a dirty play. That is for sure. Spearing happens more than many fans know or realize. I would have hated to get speared when I was playing. I don’t remember getting speared but if I had been there would have been no doubt I would have retaliated very aggressively. I believe that dirty plays should be met with a dirty reply. I know that “An eye for an eye makes the world blind;” doesn’t matter to me when we are talking NHL hockey (notice I said NHL hockey, these guys are professionals, not ten years old playing in Tim Bit jerseys).

That all being said there is no way this should have been more than a fine. A spear looks bad, very bad but doesn’t even register as close to the dirty hits I dislike so much.

Hawks defenceman Brent Seabrook absolutely hammered St. Louis Blues captain David Backes. For this he gets suspended three games: 

Now would you rather be slashed by Lucic or run over like that when the puck isn’t even around you?

These types of plays are the ones that cause short and long term damage to NHL players. Look at Backes… he really has lost the ability stand up after the hit. I will be very surprised if this wasn’t a concussion. Very scary stuff.

It is time for everyone to get some perspective when evaluating these types of plays.

Kings vs. Sharks

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Man do the Sharks look fast or is it that the Kings look slow? I think the Sharks look very fast. Many of the D for the Kings are a step behind trying to control these Sharks on the attack. I think for the next game there will be an adjustment made by Sutter to take some of the pressure off.

It will be the old HIGH AND HARD OFF THE GLASS. He will ask his D to get back there as fast as possible and just rifle it off the glass into the neutral zone. This will frustrate the Sharks forwards and hopefully back them off.

Nice to see both Raffi Torres and Mike Brown playing well for the Sharks. I never liked the trade of Brown to the Sharks. Why could one of the top teams in the NHL find a home for him and not the Oilers? He would look just fine on the Oilers fourth line alongside Hendricks and Gordon. He brings speed, can kill penalties and a hard edge.

Lightning vs. Habs

If I watch NHL hockey till I die I will never be able to understand the goalie interference calls that are made.:

Why is this not a goal? I think that Price actually pushes off on Kilhorn after Kilhorn is pushed into Price. This one counts as a goal for me all day long. The truth is it doesn’t really matter. Without Bishop the Bolts never really had a fighting chance.

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Jason hosts the Jason Strudwick show from 9pm to 12am, weeknights on the team 1260. He is an instructor at Mount Carmel Hockey Academy and loves working with the kids. Having played over 650 games in the NHL, Jason has some great stories and unique takes on life in the NHL. He loves Slurpees and Blizzards. Dislikes baggy clothes and close talkers.
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#1 Joe
April 21 2014, 05:23PM
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Imagine if Oilers were in the same league as some of these teams.

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#2 pelhem grenville
April 21 2014, 05:23PM
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hate him love him...why can't HE be an oiler

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#3 Frank
April 21 2014, 05:28PM
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pelhem grenville wrote:

hate him love him...why can't HE be an oiler

Wouldn't help, not with old boys club in charge

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#4 Fresh Mess
April 21 2014, 05:28PM
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Does Sutter's effectiveness as a motivator have a short shelf life like Keenan's? It seems like the old hard ass coaches are falling by the wayside as gen Y make their way into the NHL.

Are the new generation of players hyper sensitive and in need of constant cajoling like their peers are in other workplaces?

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#5 pelhem grenville
April 21 2014, 05:33PM
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Fresh Mess wrote:

Does Sutter's effectiveness as a motivator have a short shelf life like Keenan's? It seems like the old hard ass coaches are falling by the wayside as gen Y make their way into the NHL.

Are the new generation of players hyper sensitive and in need of constant cajoling like their peers are in other workplaces?

...close but I think it's more like... I'm making more money than you'll ever imagine making so piss off coach...

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#6 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
April 21 2014, 05:41PM
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Gregor described it as "shaft on shaft" therefore no suspension.

I don't get it....the shaft of Lucic's stick on the shaft of DeKeyser's d*ck? Call it what you want...shaft on shaft....beheading the snake....a Sherwood circumcision .....whack a mole....I thought the NHL was cracking down on head shots.

He could of at least asked him to turn his head and cough.

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#7 common sense
April 21 2014, 05:46PM
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Poetic justice for a guy like Backes. I remember this guy mouthing off against the Oilers like he was King and master. Regardless of whether it was a spear or not, we don't need Lucic targeting reproductive organs and shame on both referees for missing this.

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#8 geeker99
April 21 2014, 05:48PM
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Loving the Blue Jackets, on paper they are truly out matched skill wise. They look like the 06 oilers and I am cheering for them. A little homework for our beloved Oilers, watch , learn and live.

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#9 Paul
April 21 2014, 05:55PM
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I can't believe you're saying it's only a slash when he took his stick and hit him quite hard to the private (keeping it clean here). That should be unacceptable anyway you look at it and shouldn't be tolerated at any level of hockey. definately deserves a suspension as far as I'm concerned. First time I've seen that and should be the last. I've always admired the way Lucic plays the game - but damn never realized he as such a dirty player..

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#10 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
April 21 2014, 05:56PM
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Yeah....that's what I meant....reproductive organ....just couldn't think of the word.

Edit: If I only had a dime for every time someone said to me "you're such a reproductive organ"!

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#11 RexHolez
April 21 2014, 06:15PM
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Playoffs?? We're talking playoffs on an oilers site??

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#12 RexHolez
April 21 2014, 06:17PM
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If I'm dekeyser I'm full on baseball swinging my stick to the side of Lucic's head

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#13 Rick Stroppel
April 21 2014, 06:38PM
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PERSPECTIVE?

I really cannot believe that Strudwick is minimizing what Lucic did. For one thing, Lucic came at DeKeyser FROM BEHIND, so that DeKeyser had absolutely no chance to defend himself. For another thing, Lucic did EXACTLY THE SAME THING to another player last year and it was caught on replay. For another thing, you can really SERIOUSLY hurt another man doing what Lucic did. Lucic raised his stick violently. What difference does it make whether the shaft of his stick or the tip of the blade of the stick that hit DeKeyser? Men have lost a testicle playing hockey. It's no joke.

Sometimes there is a grey area between "tough" and "dirty" hockey. This was no grey area, this was way over the line. There is nothing "tough" about going after another player from behind. Lucic should have been suspended, if was the regular season he certainly would have been. I see no place in the game for this kind of BS.

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#14 SmythsMullet
April 21 2014, 06:39PM
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Wasn't Lucic picked with the pick the Oil sent to Bruins involving Samsanov or something?

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#15 ljcool
April 21 2014, 07:03PM
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watching some of the western series and realizing how far off the oilers are. If the oilers managed to squeeze into the playoffs i think about half the team would end up in the hospital. They are going to need to make a big trade to shake things up, There is no amount of free agents that can fix this gongshow.

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#16 flyfish1168
April 21 2014, 07:20PM
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The NHL has set a low standard for a fine for what Lucic has done. If I was Dekeyser the next time the game is out of reach I would give it right back to Lucic and suffer the consequences if the 5K. Quenville gets 25k for his act which is stiff compared to Lucic's fine.

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#17 Paq Twinn
April 21 2014, 07:34PM
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Struds - Come on man. Backes had the puck exactly 1 sec before Seabrook hit him. It wasn't charing. It wasn't from behind. He didn't leave his feet to throw the hit(did happen in follow through though). It takes more then 1 sec to recognize he(Backes) lost the puck and then change course of action which had also been committed to. It was a very vicious hit that was a half sec to slow from being a perfect hit against a guy that would not hesitate to throw the exact same hit. Backes lives by the sword. This time, he got cut.

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#18 They're $hittie
April 21 2014, 07:53PM
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One was a split second decision that had something to do with the play and as not premeditated, unfortunately it turned out to be a dangerous hit.

The other was a cheap premeditated spear to a section of a mans body that we don't even like to think of getting hurt (protected or not) and had nothing to do with the play. Intent to injure.

If anyone other than lucic did that it would have been a suspension, but mr. tough did it so it is part of his game and the game.

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#19 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
April 21 2014, 07:54PM
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Man...these new divisions are great...Every series looks like excellent hard-nosed hockey.

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#20 Oilcruzer
April 21 2014, 07:59PM
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Here is why it's wrong.

"Alright guys, if you want to do two hander to anyone's testicles, it'll only be $5K, we won't suspend you, and we may not even give you a 2 m penalty.

"So, who wants in?"

* 150 players line up and lay down $5K" *.

Heck, I could think of a few people in North America I would happily pay $5K to do that to if I knew that was the extent of my punishment.

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#21 Rick Stroppel
April 21 2014, 08:07PM
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They're $hittie wrote:

One was a split second decision that had something to do with the play and as not premeditated, unfortunately it turned out to be a dangerous hit.

The other was a cheap premeditated spear to a section of a mans body that we don't even like to think of getting hurt (protected or not) and had nothing to do with the play. Intent to injure.

If anyone other than lucic did that it would have been a suspension, but mr. tough did it so it is part of his game and the game.

COWARDLY

When you look at the clip again, one of the things that stands out is NOBODY DID ANYTHING TO LUCIC. DeKeyser stood him up face to face and rode him into the the boards. Lucic was not retaliating or reacting to anything that happened in that play.

One of Strudwick's arguments is something to the effect stuff like this happens all the time, boys will be boys, somebody for Detroit should have done the same thing to somebody on the Bruins. Really? If Lucic is fourth line player, you better believe he is suspended.

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#22 BLAKPOO
April 21 2014, 08:07PM
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The average Canadian salary is $48,250. The impact of a $5000 fine on Milan Lucic is equivalent to $43.86 for the average Canadian.

I fail to see how that's anywhere close to an appropriate fine for an attempted castration.

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#23 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
April 21 2014, 09:01PM
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Joe wrote:

Imagine if Oilers were in the same league as some of these teams.

That's the problem....they think they are.....and that they're just experiencing a little bad luck.....for eight years...

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#24 Total Points
April 21 2014, 09:28PM
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After watching the excellent teams playing in this years playoffs the Oilers need to

1. Acquire an NHL ready defenseman by trading a future star - one of Marincin, Klafbom or Schultz.

2. Acquire a NHL ready 2nd line centre by trading a future star - one of Yakupov or Eberle.

3. Trade 2014 first round pick for NHL ready player. By the time this 18 year old will be NHL ready it will be 3 yrs. The oilers brought in Nuge, Yak and to a certain degree Hall when they were not strong enough for the NHL speed and strength.

4. Of course Gagner must move along

The Oilers need to support the core of the young guys now by trading some of the future. If that doesn't happen the future will never arrive..........

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#25 geeker99
April 21 2014, 09:47PM
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I guess CBC thinks it was funny what Lucic did as it was on the intro for HNIC. Disgrace

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#26 Ari Gold
April 21 2014, 10:01PM
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Total Points wrote:

After watching the excellent teams playing in this years playoffs the Oilers need to

1. Acquire an NHL ready defenseman by trading a future star - one of Marincin, Klafbom or Schultz.

2. Acquire a NHL ready 2nd line centre by trading a future star - one of Yakupov or Eberle.

3. Trade 2014 first round pick for NHL ready player. By the time this 18 year old will be NHL ready it will be 3 yrs. The oilers brought in Nuge, Yak and to a certain degree Hall when they were not strong enough for the NHL speed and strength.

4. Of course Gagner must move along

The Oilers need to support the core of the young guys now by trading some of the future. If that doesn't happen the future will never arrive..........

I agree with every point.

Unfortunately, this may not be enough to even get the Oilers into the playoffs. The west is so competitive that even with the team we've all hopefully envisioned, it'd still be a struggle to make the playoffs let alone get out of a round.

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#27 Dog Train
April 21 2014, 10:02PM
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I would have given Lucic a game personally. I don't think that that kind of garbage has anything to do with hockey or being tough. It was a cowardly act and I don't see any need for it in the game of hockey but that's just me.

The Sharks have been the most impressive team so far. I hope this is their year, they look like they're actually playing with the kind of intensity that made them so tough to beat all season. I expect the Kings to be better in LA so it's not over but they will have a very difficult time beating the Sharks in San Jose if they can even get back there.

That Lightning no-goal was a brutal call. The Lightning have been incredibly disappointing to watch this post-season. I don't think the Habs could have asked for an easier first round matchup.

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#28 Blue Bullet
April 21 2014, 10:25PM
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Well I remember way back in peewee when an assistant coach was telling us how dirty a play it is and about him getting his testicle knocked up into his body. Lucky for him it didn't rupture. But I guess that's a-ok in Struds book. I'm sorry but like most posters on here, you're out to lunch on this one. Maybe your balls are made of steel but mine sure aren't.

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#29 Reach Advantage
April 22 2014, 01:07AM
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These playoffs have been so dirty. I can't believe that Bickell wasn't suspended for his knee hit on Sobotka.

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#30 Lofty
April 22 2014, 03:28AM
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RexHolez wrote:

If I'm dekeyser I'm full on baseball swinging my stick to the side of Lucic's head

Cause that worked out well for Marty McSorley

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#31 Norm
April 22 2014, 05:06AM
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Someone just needs to take a 7-iron to Lucic's crotch and that will teach Lucic a lesson.

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#32 Anton CP
April 22 2014, 05:30AM
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So far, Kings have demostrated a bad way of building a contender. But I guess that one cup is still better than no cup *cough* Canucks *cough*. Goalies should never get overpaid, without a team in front of them that they just simply cannot win. Any good team really just need good enough goalies, Kings should trade away Quick instead of Bernier.

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#33 Andrew
April 22 2014, 06:11AM
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NHL officiating is really disappointing due to inconsistency, phantom calls and a demonstrated inability to make appropriate calls. How on earth does Cooke get 2 mins for an intentional kneeing of the D player. How does Lucic get away with his goonery.

I guess when you have neanderthal bloggers downplaying the seriousness of playing whacky sac you have to wonder where people's heads are at. I'd like to see Strudwick's reaction if someone did that to his kid? What Lucic and Cooke did was cowardly and dangerous. There should be no place in hockey for that crap or the boneheads who relish it.

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#34 Bryan in SK
April 22 2014, 07:11AM
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As for Lucic... some idiot "dekeysered" me in midget hockey some 25 years ago. I "suspended" him for 6 weeks when my Sher-wood 5030 met the space between his glove and elbow pad.

I bet he would have preferred a fine.

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#35 az
April 22 2014, 08:38AM
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so obvious man, you oiler fans are just stuck in a cycle of propaganda

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#36 northof51
April 22 2014, 09:14AM
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these guys are professionals, not ten years old playing in Tim Bit jerseys

I agree that this is life in pro hockey, but these guys are role models for the kids playing Tim Bits. I think dirty play should be questioned so at least our thousands of minor hockey players can understand that it's not OK to play hockey that way.

And a $5,000 fine? That's it?

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#37 OilClog
April 22 2014, 10:07AM
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If that was Struds getting decapitated this article would be entirely different.

I ask my friends, all of them would rather receive a thunderous check, over a Lucic "hook"

Maybe you don't Struds, but the rest of man kind cherishes their "boys"

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#38 Oiler Al
April 22 2014, 11:22AM
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Was Lucic attracted to Dykyser by chance and hence the prod.

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#39 DrunkGuyTy
April 22 2014, 11:48AM
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Lucic is my favorite player in the NHL. It's a dirty move. I've had it happen to me and I've done it. Sometimes things go that way.

I told my 9 year old it's a dirty move and if I saw him do it to anyone, he would not be playing for a while. It's not up to anyone else to teach my kid right from wrong.

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#40 VK63
April 22 2014, 12:23PM
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Backes and karma have many things to resolve.

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#41 Rocknrolla
April 22 2014, 12:41PM
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The saddest thing about talking about Lucic, is that his draft pick was actually the oilers property.

2006 2nd rounder ++ for Samsonov.

Proof that drafting is one of the most important things in the game.

We coulda had this guy! Keep the picks, use picks wisely, develop said picks.

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#42 rickithebear
April 22 2014, 12:55PM
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Total points: I watched a Dman in his 21 year old season face the other teams best with 4th line help and get 2.01 EVGA/60

The choices with Better EVGA

Hamilton 1st comp 1st team 1.27 EVGA/60

Michalek 1st comp 1st team 1.58 EVGA/60

Lovejoy 1st comp 4th team 1.62 EVGA/60

CHara 1st comp 1st team 1.69 EVGA/60

Muzzin 1st comp 1st team 1.69 EVGA/60

Suter 1st comp 1st team 1.74 Evga/60

Deykeyser 1st comp 3rd team 1.77 evga/60

Gorges 1st comp 3rd team 1.80 EVGA/60

Vlasic 1st comp 1st team 1.80 EVGA/60

Doughty 1st comp 2nd team 1.87 EVGA/60 Yemelin 1st comp 1st team 1.91 EVGA/60

Braun 1st comp 1st team 1.98 EVGA/60

Oduya 1st comp 4th team 1.99 EVGA/60

you will notice most had 1st teamates.

Only Lovejoy; Deykeyser; Gorges; Oduya had 3rd or 4th linemates.

Marincin?

One of the best tough comp EVGA in the Game!

Marincin!

LMAO!

MacT said he would not do Stupid trades! Touching the Core!

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#43 jeremy
April 22 2014, 01:06PM
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I love the class here Oilers fans, Seabrook puts his shoulder (and straightens out to do so) into Backes head but yet it is Karma, remind me how many times he has been suspended compared to say Taylor Hall but lets talk about karma.

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#44 northof51
April 22 2014, 01:19PM
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Bryan in SK wrote:

As for Lucic... some idiot "dekeysered" me in midget hockey some 25 years ago. I "suspended" him for 6 weeks when my Sher-wood 5030 met the space between his glove and elbow pad.

I bet he would have preferred a fine.

So someone rubbed you out on the boards and you broke his wrist? Or am I missing the true meaning of "dekeysered"?

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#45 Quicksilver ballet
April 22 2014, 01:40PM
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Lucic is the Jason Giambi of hockey. Way over paid and over rated. Selfish players take risks of putting their teams down a man for 5 min intent to injure penalties.

He's the beneficiary of being on a good team at the right time. Edmonton is still nowhere near the playoffs with his kind here.

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#46 2015Playoffs?Nope!
April 22 2014, 02:04PM
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Rocknrolla wrote:

The saddest thing about talking about Lucic, is that his draft pick was actually the oilers property.

2006 2nd rounder ++ for Samsonov.

Proof that drafting is one of the most important things in the game.

We coulda had this guy! Keep the picks, use picks wisely, develop said picks.

True, the pick was ours.... but do you really think that our group of scouts would have really picked Lucic?

NOPE.

They would have drafted Pouliot v2.0 or some other skilled player under 5'9"

Since we cant draft (outside of 1st overall, and even that is a stretch), and we refuse to bring in the people that can, we might as well trade every pick we can for established talant.

Otherwise, this trainwreck of an organization will only get worse and worse and worse.

FML i hate being an Oilers fan.

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#47 Spydyr
April 23 2014, 01:17AM
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Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty) wrote:

Gregor described it as "shaft on shaft" therefore no suspension.

I don't get it....the shaft of Lucic's stick on the shaft of DeKeyser's d*ck? Call it what you want...shaft on shaft....beheading the snake....a Sherwood circumcision .....whack a mole....I thought the NHL was cracking down on head shots.

He could of at least asked him to turn his head and cough.

We used to call it the separator.

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#48 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
April 23 2014, 09:48AM
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Spydyr wrote:

We used to call it the separator.

Or the can opener.

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#49 nunyour
April 23 2014, 11:37AM
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Anyone that takes a stick to a mans testicles from behind needs to be taught a serious lesson.

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