THE WAY I SEE IT: WHAT ABOUT NAIL?

Robin Brownlee
April 21 2014 10:37PM

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The bottom line is it doesn’t matter much that Anton Belov didn't want to return for a second season with the Edmonton Oilers as long as Dallas Eakins was the coach here, opting instead to sign with SKA in Russia.

Belov, who arrived in Edmonton after being named the KHL's best defensemen the previous season, didn't go into detail in comments to Russian reporter Pavel Lysenkov, as noted earlier today in an item by Jonathan Willis, but he did point a finger at Eakins.

"There is no one reason that made it an abrupt change," Belov said. "It all was building up during the season, especially more so after the Olympics. And the hire of coach Bykov (by SKA) was also an influence. The other point is that I could have re-signed with Edmonton, but I didn’t want to stay with that coach (Eakins)

In what can only be described as a sometimes-up-often-down season, Belov was an inconsistent and often mistake-prone player unable to command ice time with a defensive corps lacking both quality and depth. Was Belov worth having back? Sure. Is his departure a big loss? No.

That Belov clearly had issues with Eakins – be it a personality clash or a beef about how he was used -- isn’t a big deal. I'm much more interested in seeing if Eakins and Nail Yakupov can get on the same page going into next season because if they don't, well, that is a big deal. Way more at stake.

SOPHOMORE GONE SIDEWAYS

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After scoring 17 goals and tallying 31 points in 48 games (.65 PPG) as a rookie last season under coach Ralph Krueger, Yakupov went sideways this season under Eakins, finishing with 11 goals and 24 points (.38 PPG) in 63 games before an ankle injury put him out.

Yakupov, 20, saw his ice time drop from 15:34 under Krueger to 14:19 under Eakins, with his power-play time dipping slightly from 2:28 to 2:10. How, when and with whom Yakupov was deployed by Eakins was questioned by agent Igor Larionov during the season.

More than once this season, Yakupov appeared frustrated and seemed at odds with Eakins. By the end of the season it was almost as if he'd mentally checked out. I'm not the only one who has made that observation. I'd be surprised if Larionov doesn't plan on getting back on the telephone with GM Craig MacTavish this off-season to re-visit what's happening with his client.

I've taken a few runs at Yakupov for being too individualistic and not working as diligently as he could at all aspects of his game, particularly his defensive play. He's a work-in-progress, sometimes a frustrating one at that. It comes with the territory when you're talking about a 20-year-old.

MEETING OF THE MINDS

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Despite some obvious shortcomings at this stage of Yakupov's young career, I think Eakins has to take some of the blame for this sideways season – a fair amount, actually. Did Eakins give Yakupov the best possible opportunity to succeed in terms of how he was used and where he was used? No and no.

Did Yakupov contribute to the problem by withdrawing or sulking when things didn’t go his way? It seemed so. Did Eakins dig in his heels and insist things be done his way, as coaches are prone to do? Yes. Simply put, the way I see it, Eakins and Yakupov both have their stubborn streaks.

In the end, splitting the blame whatever way you see it doesn’t really matter. What does matter, and the challenge for Eakins, is that he finds a way to get on the same page with Yakupov. If that doesn’t happen, he risks losing the player and having Yakupov check out for good, and we're talking about a first overall pick here, not a fringe blueliner.

If that happens – nobody has told me we're at that point yet – and Larionov picks up the telephone and tells MacTavish his client wants out, Eakins will have a big problem, vote of confidence from the GM or not. The way I see it, Eakins and Yakupov better have a meaningful sit-down before Larionov and MacTavish do. Over to you, coach.

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#101 Quicksilver ballet
April 22 2014, 12:17PM
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pelhem grenville wrote:

Q...would never have thought Galchenyuk would come back in a trade involving 64...Dale Weise and a huge dman prospect would be better than the dreaded of all 'zippo' no?

Leave it to the Oilers to convert a first overall into that kind of return. That's the road they've been travelling for almost 25 yrs now.

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#102 Quicksilver ballet
April 22 2014, 12:19PM
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backup bob wrote:

Not enough truculence.

Can I play....

Truculence = Sam Bennett

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#103 pelhem grenville
April 22 2014, 12:22PM
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pelhem grenville wrote:

Q...would never have thought Galchenyuk would come back in a trade involving 64...Dale Weise and a huge dman prospect would be better than the dreaded of all 'zippo' no?

...I never said 64 has any value....

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#104 NoShtShrlock
April 22 2014, 12:23PM
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If a system is fundamentally flawed and players are having to change their style of play to suit the coach's what should be done.Is it possible for a coach to be let go before the end of the season if the players can't understand or learn their system? Ask David Moyes how his Tuesday is going.

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#105 pelhem grenville
April 22 2014, 12:26PM
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...oh gawd a bloody soccer thread!

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#106 etownman
April 22 2014, 12:27PM
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For once Robin I actually agree with everything you've said.

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#107 casey
April 22 2014, 12:31PM
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If I had a dollar for every negative comment said by a player I would be Bill Gates

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#108 Wonger
April 22 2014, 12:35PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

Can I play....

Truculence = Sam Bennett

TRUE TRUCULENCE = NICK RITCHIE!!!!!!! If we don't pick him Calgary will pick him or Bennett 4th or Vancouver will pick him 6th for sure!!!! SESTITO-KASSIAN RITCHIE= OUCH!!! Wonger knows for sure!!!

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#109 Quicksilver ballet
April 22 2014, 12:51PM
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Wonger wrote:

TRUE TRUCULENCE = NICK RITCHIE!!!!!!! If we don't pick him Calgary will pick him or Bennett 4th or Vancouver will pick him 6th for sure!!!! SESTITO-KASSIAN RITCHIE= OUCH!!! Wonger knows for sure!!!

Thugonomics is over rated. You can't win if you don't put the biscuit in the basket.

Did it ever occur to you where the Canucks finished with those hooligans? WONGER KNOWS SHIP! lol

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#110 blainer
April 22 2014, 12:52PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

The table is already set for Yakupov to leave at seasons end next year.

Incompetent coaching staff endorsed......check!

Last year of his agreement.....check!

His vision of the NHL dream crushed.....check!

Yakupov can leave and the NHL/Oilers, and they'll receive zippo. One season of suckage, with no reward for doing so.

Tick Tock tick Tock. Someone needs to come to their senses. Yakupov or Eakins, one will be gone.

Man.. we are in tough with Yak. You are correct about the return. Better to move him quick if were gonna do it. The return for the Zheredev..a 4th overall pick was Fedor Tytuin..Not too too bad....but the return for Filatov.. a 6th overall pick ..was only a third rounder. The worst part of all this is that these two players also never worked for the teams that traded for them.. which keeps teams much less willing to take a risk now..not good for us with Yak...

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#111 Bryant
April 22 2014, 12:52PM
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I don't care who we draft as long as Sam Bennett is not on the board for Calgary. He will eat up our guys for years.

Do the right thing and Draft Sam Bennett Oilers...

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#112 zoolander
April 22 2014, 01:33PM
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blainer wrote:

Man.. we are in tough with Yak. You are correct about the return. Better to move him quick if were gonna do it. The return for the Zheredev..a 4th overall pick was Fedor Tytuin..Not too too bad....but the return for Filatov.. a 6th overall pick ..was only a third rounder. The worst part of all this is that these two players also never worked for the teams that traded for them.. which keeps teams much less willing to take a risk now..not good for us with Yak...

Or you could just fire Eakins. Why he seemed to care more about Smyth a guy who was retiring and hemsky a guy we were going to be losing over building the confidence of a first overall draft pick is insane. When the season was over and the games did not even matter he refused to play yaks on any 5 on 3 in order to get him going. No let's make sure Smyth gets his goal.

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#113 OilClog
April 22 2014, 01:43PM
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This thread lol.

Yakupov isn't getting shipped out for cents on the dollar.

Yakupov isn't getting shipped out, his dreams aren't crushed, he's not going back to the KHL.

If Eakins gets to the point next season where he's benching Yakupov again, Eakins will clearly be nearing the end of his stay, as it will be clear the team still looks like blind mice out there.. Due to Eakins having no clue how to deploy players.

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#114 Will
April 22 2014, 01:53PM
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Also, since when do wingers have to be two way players now? There are maybe like 5 wingers in the game who put up decent points and are considered two way guys. The rest are all centermen. I know he had a bad plus minus, but gad he had to play with Gagner all freakin year.

Both Perron and Yak would benefit from a better pivot.

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#115 Czar
April 22 2014, 02:36PM
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@Will

If you want to make some noise in the playoffs all your forwards should have the ability to play in both ends of the rink. They don't have to be Selke nominees but a definite clue is required.

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#116 Czar
April 22 2014, 02:41PM
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Czar wrote:

If you want to make some noise in the playoffs all your forwards should have the ability to play in both ends of the rink. They don't have to be Selke nominees but a definite clue is required.

I guess I should have said get to the playoffs in our case.

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#117 Will
April 22 2014, 02:53PM
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Czar wrote:

If you want to make some noise in the playoffs all your forwards should have the ability to play in both ends of the rink. They don't have to be Selke nominees but a definite clue is required.

Can you name any outstanding 2 way wingers in the NHL? Landeskog, Callahan, Perry, Brown (though not this post season). Tough to think of other outstanding two way wingers. Reason being, that's not what they're there for. Is Kane a two way guy? Is Hossa blocking shots? Does Nichuskin pride himself on his defensive responsibility?

I think Ovechkin said it best this year, he's not there to play defence he's there to score goals, and that is the main job of every winger.

Point being that yes Yak needed to play better in his own end, they all did. But saying he's a wasted player because he isn't a two way winger is a bit preposterous.

It's the same reason Hall doesn't get more props for being the best LW in the game. Oh, he's not a complete player, he's a WINGER!

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#118 Derian Hatcher
April 22 2014, 03:01PM
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At advanced levels, players need to recognize the defensive need and fill it. Defensive sytems in higher levels of hockey no longer use the "winger" "center" positions for defensive coverage. Reading the play, recognizing the threat and reacting to the scoring threat is what makes a good defensive forward. Granted, it is often the centerman who fills this role, but the excuse of "that wasn't my guy cause I'm a winger" went out with Punch Imlach. IMO 64 has to be willing to learn to play on the defensive side of the puck on a consistent basis. I've lost hope for 89 in this regard.

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#119 Tikkanese
April 22 2014, 03:01PM
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Maybe if Belov showed even 10% of his hyped offense and toughness when given ample opportunities early in the season, and even at anytime throughout the entire season for that matter, he wouldn't have ever been a healthy scratch. The Oilers would have been more inclined to match the KHL offer as well.

He was touted as an automatic top 4 D and a possible top pairing guy. He can blame Eakins all he wants but his play alone made him end up being a #8 on the worst D in the NHL. He took a paycut to see how he would fare in the NHL. If there was ever a D that one could easily shine on, it was the Oilers' D this season. He didn't fare well. No real loss. Easily replaceable and upgradeable.

Belov, on your way out don't let the door hit you where the good lord split you.

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#120 Kevin Lowe
April 22 2014, 03:56PM
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Bryant wrote:

I don't care who we draft as long as Sam Bennett is not on the board for Calgary. He will eat up our guys for years.

Do the right thing and Draft Sam Bennett Oilers...

I disagree Oilers need a small winger.

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#121 Joy S. Lee
April 22 2014, 04:10PM
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All this talk of Yakupov's demise is concerning because this is an ultra-talented player, possessing great passion, and capable of being much, much more than what he is now. It is a stretch right now, but not entirely ridiculous to say that he is capable of winning the Maurice Richard Trophy, for pete's sake.

In other words, there is little option but to step up for this kid and make him successful. I'm sure the Oilers realize this. Anything less than a complete organizational investment in #64's rise to prominence would be a failure. Let the kid show passion, give him appropriate opportunities, and let him learn the game. Then, let him do what he does best. There are many qualities to his game that aren't getting recognized, but that's okay, it should be abundantly clear next year, with the revamped team, and a defense that can move the puck.

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#122 Tikkanese
April 22 2014, 04:15PM
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Tikkanese wrote:

Maybe if Belov showed even 10% of his hyped offense and toughness when given ample opportunities early in the season, and even at anytime throughout the entire season for that matter, he wouldn't have ever been a healthy scratch. The Oilers would have been more inclined to match the KHL offer as well.

He was touted as an automatic top 4 D and a possible top pairing guy. He can blame Eakins all he wants but his play alone made him end up being a #8 on the worst D in the NHL. He took a paycut to see how he would fare in the NHL. If there was ever a D that one could easily shine on, it was the Oilers' D this season. He didn't fare well. No real loss. Easily replaceable and upgradeable.

Belov, on your way out don't let the door hit you where the good lord split you.

Wow, 8 trashes and 2 props. I swear at least half of you are really fans of other teams just on here trying to get a reaction out of Oiler fans. None of that was untrue.

Belov did not live up to the hype, fact. Belov did not exactly shine on the worst D in the NHL, fact. Did any Oiler D really shine? No. If Belov even delivered half of the hype he had, he would have shined brightly.

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#123 geeker99
April 22 2014, 04:23PM
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Sorensenator wrote:

I think most of you are delusional about Yakupov because you can't stomach a #1 overall pick being a failure.

Maybe he would have been a good #1 elsewhere but we have two #1's ahead of him that are wayyyyyyyyyyyyy better. It makes him obsolete.

This is the Achilles heal of all Oiler fans and the organization - you keep hoping it will turn out and get better and this is exactly how you feel about Yakupov.

I felt the same about Gagner and it has taken 7 years for the majority of people to agree it is time to part ways with him.

I think a reality check is in order.

I guarantee you if the top six remains the same with Yakupov included, they will be drafting top 5 next year no question. They ain't getting a stud defensemen because #1 teams are not going to give him away, #2 MacT will not part with Hall, Nuge, and Ebs, and # 3 they won't sign here anyways.

Oh I'm sorry, you might get an Andrew Ference equivalent who is a 4-5 d man at best.

OOOH Doug, it doesn't matter who we pick, we are awful at development at the NHL level. Might have something to do with the minor pro defense. Just sayin

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#124 A-Mc
April 22 2014, 04:27PM
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There are a lot of excuses being flown around to justify the bad season for Yakupov.

You want to blame the coach for his poor performance? 20+ other players had the same coach, and the offensive ones did just fine.

You want to talk about his line mates? Yak played on all lines and wasn't effective on any of them.

Specifically you want to target Gagner as the main problem? Perron also played with Gagner, and Perron kicked butt this season.

Yakupov just wasn't good this season and that's on him. Next year is a fresh start and i hope he can get his ducks in a row; this team needs him to figure it out.

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#125 Sorensenator
April 22 2014, 04:36PM
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OOOH Doug, it doesn't matter who we pick, we are awful at development at the NHL level. Might have something to do with the minor pro defense. Just sayin

Taylor was a great pick, he developed himself.

Eberle was a steal of a pick at #22

Yakupov is a one dimensional player (how can you argue this fact) and he blows (my opinion)

The End

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#126 A-Mc
April 22 2014, 04:43PM
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Sorensenator wrote:

Taylor was a great pick, he developed himself.

Eberle was a steal of a pick at #22

Yakupov is a one dimensional player (how can you argue this fact) and he blows (my opinion)

The End

While i dont agree with the level of your negativity, i do somewhat agree with the sentiment.

You said something here that is key "He Developed Himself".

Good players stay relevant despite what goes on around them. Blaming coaches and line mates only works for seasons with slight dips. The level of failure that Yakupov experienced this year is 100% on him and no one else.

If Yak can't weather this storm, then he doesn't have what makes players great.

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#127 Pouzar99
April 22 2014, 05:50PM
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One of your best commentaries Robin. Fair, balanced and insightful. If this club isn't big enough for both of them, then unless it's all Yak's fault, it better be Eakins out the door. If Igor Larionov is complaining, I'm listening. Whatever room he is in, he's the smartest guy in it.

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#128 Sorensenator
April 22 2014, 06:59PM
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A-Mc wrote:

While i dont agree with the level of your negativity, i do somewhat agree with the sentiment.

You said something here that is key "He Developed Himself".

Good players stay relevant despite what goes on around them. Blaming coaches and line mates only works for seasons with slight dips. The level of failure that Yakupov experienced this year is 100% on him and no one else.

If Yak can't weather this storm, then he doesn't have what makes players great.

I still got 7 trashes and only one thumbs up for mentioning Hall and Eberle as good draft choices...then I mentioned Yakupov

Oh boy is he ever a fan favourite!

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#129 Casey
April 22 2014, 09:22PM
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I have a felling Todd Nelson will flee when he has the chance. Snubbed of a job with the Oilers, Klowe and company backstabbing him by trading,calling up(even though they aren't ready), and letting them walk, treating him and his team as if it is a storage room for the big club, and lastly not recognizing nor paying attention to the amount of work he has done. Ask Marincin,Arco,Lander, any young player that has came up through the Barons. They will mention how Nelson has helped their game. Sounds the exact opposite of Eakins dosen't it?

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#130 Oilers
April 23 2014, 02:22AM
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Sorensenator wrote:

Eakins is also a useless project

So is Lowe and Mac t

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#131 Oilers4ever
April 23 2014, 07:02AM
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Plain and simple in my mind. This team got worse under Eakins. Stats dont lie. If he loses Yak who else does he lose? He's proven nothing in this league. Turf him and hire Trotz. He did well in Nashville for so many years and nowhere near the talent pool the oilers have outside of a couple stud dmen and Pekka Rinne. If he loses Yak then who's next. I dont normally go this way cuz you dont can a coach cuz of a player. But Belov had comments... Smid, Bryz... When they start to add up there has to be some truth out there. If he was a proven coach I'd say otherwise but he's not.

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#132 Joy S. Lee
April 23 2014, 07:43AM
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2004Z06 wrote:

We give rookie players all the slack in the world under the excuse that hey....it's their first year, they are learning.

Yet so eager to throw the rookie NHL coach under the bus after one season because you don't like his hair, or how he handles a press conference.

Dallas Eakins may turn out to be a great coach, or a crappy one, but one season with marginal NHL'ers and a handful of spoiled kids with less than 150 games under their belts is not an accurate measuring stick. In the words of the stats guys, "not a large enough sample size."

Let's wait and see what he can do with a real hockey team. You're up Mac T.

Why are people trashing this comment? A perfectly sensible response, I think, if you take a step back and look at the Oilers overall situation.

This coach wasn't exactly provided with a stellar lineup, and in fact this was a single-faceted team until somewhere around the Olympic break when MacTavish acquired enough grit to support that single facet.

In the time following those acquisitions, the Oilers found themselves competing in games with those bigger, tougher teams. Sure, they'd lose by a goal, but there was far more pushback. Giving the high-end talent on the team being so young and developing, I'd say there is bound to be improvement next season. Better supporting cast, improved core, goaltending that can steal games, another top pick (or two??), and hopefully a player or three from the system to buoy up the teams' depth.

I agree that - right or wrong - this coach deserves the opportunity to expand on what was built over the course of this year, and what could come together for next.

As pissed off as everybody seems - and is - they resembled a competitive team who could play more than one type of game, towards the end of the year. Before that, we were a one-trick pony.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Hall, Nuge, Eberle and Yakupov come back next year with a new attitude about how they are going to skin this cat. They are all something like 22 and under, but with several years of NHL experience (too much too soon, but what's done is done).

I guess my point is that as bad as it all seems, there is a light, and it will largely depend on how the kids approach the off-season before they arrive for camp. If MacT adds a few improved pieces, you really don't know what we're going to get. Yeah, I know, it's easier to wallow in the muck. But the possibilities - especially with a young, immature core like this - are truly endless. We really don't know what we are going to get. It could even be something special, but we won't go there, because it's painful to be disappointed. So, we all hop on the angry bus, instead. The future is really anybody's guess. I'll put my vote in now for "special," but I won't hold my breath about it. Lol.

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#133 Czar
April 23 2014, 07:52AM
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Will wrote:

Can you name any outstanding 2 way wingers in the NHL? Landeskog, Callahan, Perry, Brown (though not this post season). Tough to think of other outstanding two way wingers. Reason being, that's not what they're there for. Is Kane a two way guy? Is Hossa blocking shots? Does Nichuskin pride himself on his defensive responsibility?

I think Ovechkin said it best this year, he's not there to play defence he's there to score goals, and that is the main job of every winger.

Point being that yes Yak needed to play better in his own end, they all did. But saying he's a wasted player because he isn't a two way winger is a bit preposterous.

It's the same reason Hall doesn't get more props for being the best LW in the game. Oh, he's not a complete player, he's a WINGER!

Whoa up there Willy, when did I say Yak was a wasted player? What's preposterous is the fact that you think wingers should get a pass on playing defense and not take pride in it?

Stanley cup champs have everyone buying in and playing responsible defensively even their WINGERS! If Ovi took more pride in his over all game he might be playing right now, no?

I agree with Derian's post #118, times have changed dude.

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#134 Rob...
April 23 2014, 07:57AM
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Sorensenator wrote:

I still got 7 trashes and only one thumbs up for mentioning Hall and Eberle as good draft choices...then I mentioned Yakupov

Oh boy is he ever a fan favourite!

The prop system is flawed. For someone to give you props, they pretty much have to agree with, or like, everything you've said. On the flip side, you can have 10 well thought out points, but if someone hates even one of those ten, it's perfectly acceptable to trash the post.

I don't know what they could do to fix that, short of giving people a limited number of trash/prop points per day to use as they please, and I'm not advocating that.

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#135 Joy S. Lee
April 23 2014, 07:59AM
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Tikkanese wrote:

Wow, 8 trashes and 2 props. I swear at least half of you are really fans of other teams just on here trying to get a reaction out of Oiler fans. None of that was untrue.

Belov did not live up to the hype, fact. Belov did not exactly shine on the worst D in the NHL, fact. Did any Oiler D really shine? No. If Belov even delivered half of the hype he had, he would have shined brightly.

I found it interesting that he signed a 4-year deal in the KHL. He has always signed 1-year deals to stay hungry, as a personal motivation. I appreciated that he felt it necessary to prove himself each and every year.

This diversion from that mantra suggests he came to realize that he is perhaps not as capable of dominating in the NHL as he thought he was. He would have been a UFA, yes? So he could have signed with any team, if Eakins was his only concern... right?

But, he didn't. He went back to the KHL, knowing the NHL is the best league in the world. He admitted to having trouble adjusting. It would have been in Eakins and his brilliant assistant's job descriptions to teach the NHL game/ice to Belov, of course. Obviously, Belov didn't like the way he was being taught. That can be a player thing as much as a coaching thing, so we're still in the dark and probably always will be on this one.

I think Belov could have been an impact NHL Top 4 D-man had he stuck it out, but it's okay, because he couldn't get much beyond 5-6 on the league's worst defense. He gave up too soon. But that's the strange part, for a guy who prided himself on earning every contract he got. Why would a guy like that give up so quickly? That's the question I'd ask him, if I had the chance.

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#136 seanjohn667
April 23 2014, 09:38AM
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it seems odd that they would pick a Yak and keep him, when he has none of the qualities they seem to want in him. He has the defensive awareness of a 10 year old. Didn't they scout him? Didn't they interview him? Ok, he has a good shot, and if you want to pick him for his value, fine. But, why wasn't trading him for players you actually like and need an option?

Just like Gagner, they will play the Yakupov hand completely wrong.

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#137 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
April 23 2014, 10:12AM
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Oilers have a habit of shipping out of town players that they can't effectively manage.....the best indicator of future management behaviour is past management behaviour. It concerns me and would be a strong indictment of the organization if they cannot properly develop this kid.

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#138 Sorensenator
April 23 2014, 11:18AM
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OK I'll try to be more reasonable. I do think Yakupov will prosper from a better two way centre. Gagner is horrible, he has no grit to his game whatsoever and he is a defensive liability. Most players can push Gagner off the puck with one hand.

I think Bennett would be a better option instantly. He is tenacious and extremely explosive. Gagner is neither of those things.

Hall Nugent Hopkins Eberle

Perron Bennett Yakupov

Small top six still but potentially very dangerous.

Now they need a couple players that can play third line players and still produce and one more maybe two Top 4 defenceman to solidify the back end.

I am cautiously optimistic

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#139 Sorensenator
April 23 2014, 11:21AM
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Oilers wrote:

So is Lowe and Mac t

Don't bring MacT down with K Lowe, he has only been GM for a year and has made way more helpful moves then Tambo ever did.

If you think MacT is useless because he can't land Shea Weber then you need a serious reality check.

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#140 oilers
April 23 2014, 12:00PM
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Sorensenator wrote:

Don't bring MacT down with K Lowe, he has only been GM for a year and has made way more helpful moves then Tambo ever did.

If you think MacT is useless because he can't land Shea Weber then you need a serious reality check.

Mac t is useless because he and Lowe make every decision. They are joined at the hip.

If u can't see that then why was mac tfired as coach, which the president must endorse, otherwise he is a terrible disengaged president, then rehired as gm.

I know I know he resigned..... polite way of saying your fired.

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#141 SSB1963
April 23 2014, 02:09PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

Leave it to the Oilers to convert a first overall into that kind of return. That's the road they've been travelling for almost 25 yrs now.

Can't quite remember but what exactly did the Red Wings get for former 1st overall Joe Murphy? I don't think they got a lot.

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#142 Quicksilver ballet
April 23 2014, 02:22PM
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SSB1963 wrote:

Can't quite remember but what exactly did the Red Wings get for former 1st overall Joe Murphy? I don't think they got a lot.

Traded to Edmonton by Detroit with Petr Klima, Adam Graves and Jeff Sharples for Jimmy Carson, Kevin McClelland and Edmonton's 5th round choice (later traded to Montreal - Montreal selected Brad Layzell) in 1991 Entry Draft, November 2, 1989.

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#143 franksteel
April 23 2014, 02:57PM
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yakupov for clarkson...heh

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#144 Sorensenator
April 23 2014, 11:03PM
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Mac t is useless because he and Lowe make every decision. They are joined at the hip.

If u can't see that then why was mac tfired as coach, which the president must endorse, otherwise he is a terrible disengaged president, then rehired as gm.

I know I know he resigned..... polite way of saying your fired.

MacT makes every decision with Lowe? You know this to be true? Hmmmm

So he makes a deal to get David Perron, signs Andrew Ference and Boyd Gordon, and picks up Fasth and Scrivens and he's still useless?

MacT was the coach for 8 or 9 years most coaches never make it that long.

I think you just dislike MacT and you are ignoring all the work he has put in so far as GM.

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#145 Oilers
April 23 2014, 11:17PM
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MacT makes every decision with Lowe? You know this to be true? Hmmmm

So he makes a deal to get David Perron, signs Andrew Ference and Boyd Gordon, and picks up Fasth and Scrivens and he's still useless?

MacT was the coach for 8 or 9 years most coaches never make it that long.

I think you just dislike MacT and you are ignoring all the work he has put in so far as GM.

I put money on the flames before the oilers making the playoffs and having a better record than Mac t

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