PLAYOFF RAMBLINGS

Brian Sutherby
April 23 2014 08:15AM

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My take on the first week of playoffs, Cooke, Keith, Getzlaf, Sam Bennett and more

COOKE



Matt Cooke made another really bad decision. My guess is he gets 7-9 games. He’s done worse, but with his track record and the significant injury to Barrie, I expect he will get something fairly severe. I know some people want more but I doubt that happens.


Bryan Bickell’s knee on Vladimir Sabotka was almost as bad in my opinion but it was Bickell not Cooke.

I played with Tyson Barrie last season and he is one of the best young players I've ever played with. He will be a star one day. This could be a series changing loss for Colorado.

KEITH - BACKES

This whole "Wakey Wakey" Duncan Keith story is just ridiculous. Its hockey, it's in the heat of the moment, be thankful that's all you heard.

Besides, Keith got filled in the next game by Steve Ott for all his stick work and yapping in the series. It was a questionable hit, but if you are doing those things eventually someone will find you.

GETZLAF - ROUSSEL

The Ducks aren't happy with the Stars targeting Getzlaf's face knowing he has 52 stitches and a significant jaw injury. If it's the regular season I probably have a huge problem with it.

It's the playoffs now and you do everything you can to win. If you can affect the other team’s best player and it helps you win, you do it. 

While we’re on the topic, how about Ryan Getzlaf? He takes that puck in the face and comes back and dominates game two and didn't back down one bit when push came to shove in game 3. That's a leader and that's what the NHL playoffs are all about.

I've said it before, that if I'm starting a team he's my pick after Crosby at forward. After his Olympics, regular season and now gutsy playoff performance, I might even rethink that order.

ROBIDAS

It was crushing to see veteran Stephan Robidas break the same leg he broke earlier in the season in game 3. The guy is an absolute warrior and I think most in the hockey world wanted to see him have a deep playoff run and shot at the cup.

BAD CALL

I’m 0 for 1 already in my playoff bracket. I picked the Lightning to upset Montreal, just a stupid pick.

The late penalty call on the Bolts that allowed the game winner was just as stupid however. Take both players if you have to make a call at that stage of the hockey game. Either way Montreal was the better team, but the series may have gone one more game.

MACKINNON


Nathan MacKinnon is a phenomenal talent. When he was in Edmonton a few weeks back I was drooling over him. He hasn't stopped in the playoffs and I'm not surprised. His ability to stick handle and shoot while moving his legs at top speed is incredible. He will chase Crosby for scoring titles in a couple years.

SAM BENNETT

I still take Ekblad if he’s available at 3, but I heard Sam Bennett on Gregor yesterday talking about his game and you can tell he plays with an edge. I haven’t seen either play and have just heard others talk about their styles, but if it came down to Bennett or Draisitl for the Oilers, I'm starting to lean towards the kid with some jam.

He’s not small at 6’1 and if Draisaitl doesn’t play physical (he’s just big) maybe he’s not the best choice. They need some grit and more character that can play. Guys like Toews, Bergeron and Landeskog aren’t monsters but they are heavy enough and competitive enough to engage physically with the biggest centers around the league.

I’ve heard about Draisaitl all year in Edmonton but there is a reason Bennett is ranked higher. He's a year younger and put up 90 points to go along with 118 penalty minutes.

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#51 Sam
April 23 2014, 11:39AM
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Brian Sutherby wrote:

I'm not going to lose sleep either way at this point because I haven't seen either player enough to really know for certain.

I'm simply going off a few highlights, stats, "expert" opinions and a Bennett interview(paraphrasing)where he talked about being a two-way player, liking the physical side of the game almost getting carried away with it a bit at times and still putting up 90 points at 17.

You talk about balance, right now I see a forward group that when they have the puck on their stick they can protect it and create offense.

I don't see a team that goes through guys to get the puck, or can create offense off a forecheck because no one wants to engage physically.

So if your talking about balance, Draisaitl is taller by a couple inches but is he that different of a player than what they already have? I have no idea...but bringing in a different type of player and skill set is what creates balance.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=160174

Leon Draisaitl

Center -- shoots L Born Oct 27 1995 -- Cologne, Germany [18 yrs. ago] Height 6.01

So Leon Draisaitl is couple inches taller as you say so that makes him 5 '11

Gregor interviewed Sam Bennett he said he was 6 '1 therefore Leon must be 6 '3

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#52 Oiler Al
April 23 2014, 11:41AM
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Craig1981 wrote:

But the Oilers didn't have the option between Nuge and McKinnon. McKinnon is a talent that the Oilers could use, but they never had the option to get him.

RNH was not as good as Landeskog this year, but it also isn't clear 3 years into their career the Oilers should of taken Landeskog.

McKinnon might prove to be better than Yak, RNH, and even Hall.......I think its even likely, but its no fault of the Oilers, McKinnon's draft year wasn't on a year they picked 1st.

Sorry Craig, dont mean to go back and forth on this, but my original point was that Colorado didnt take the BPA,where the Oilers would have.

I was comparing NUGE to Landeskog. I know its all hindsight, but right now Landeskog looks like the more mature player. Not saying Nuge wont be there one day.Fair or not Landeskog beat Nuge on the Calder.

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#53 Sorensenator
April 23 2014, 11:44AM
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Oiler Al wrote:

How dumb are the Oilers Brass.... bet a hundred bucks they would have taken Jones had they had the first pick in the McKinnon draft.

Watching playoffs.. some great tough hockey. Sorry to say, but Oilers would not last a period with some of these teams. Very sad situation, this rebuild as gone sideways bigtime.

Tampa, Dallas, Colorado, Columbus dont have the luxury of 7 year rebuilds, when they had half empty buildings prior to this year. The dumbie fans in Canadian cities keep showing up regardless.Maybe thats why there is only one Canadian team in the playoffs.

They probably would have picked Jones because they drafted forwards in the first round like 67 years in a row.

The Oilers have not had a #1 defenceman since Chris Pronger and Jones has the potential to be that guy.

MacT made the right decision by settling with Darnell Nurse.

And we are going onto year 5 of the rebuild. 7 years ago the Oilers were trying to puke things together to make a run at the playoffs again. Their record was 41-35-2-4. I pretty sure teams that finish above 500 are not in a rebuild stage. Yes players came and left but that happens on every team, every year.

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#54 Oiler Al
April 23 2014, 11:50AM
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jeremy wrote:

Wow so you predict the future now, I love this hard on for Mackinnon as I stated before in another post you people realize that first Mackinnon is playing the wing right now - a much easier position to play. I would also point out that in RNH's rookie year his points per game is higher than Mackinnon's. If you got such a hard on for the avs then go hop back on the bandwagon. As well if you think Landeskog is a better pick because he "plays like a man" then you need to give your head a shake.

Jeremy, funny I did give my head a shake the other day and saw Colorado at the top of the league and Edmonton in the basement at 29th ..yet again.

PS. I have nothing against RNH, think he may turn out to be a good player, he just needs to grow a pair!.Landeskog is ahead in his development.

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#55 so sad
April 23 2014, 11:53AM
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Isn't it fun playing fake gm or coach, talking about draft choices we know nothing about or have never seen play other than a 30 second clip. Better than those other teams wasting their time playing those games in, now what is it called? Oh yea, the Stanley Cup Playoffs!

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#56 Will
April 23 2014, 11:54AM
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Oiler Al wrote:

Sorry Craig, dont mean to go back and forth on this, but my original point was that Colorado didnt take the BPA,where the Oilers would have.

I was comparing NUGE to Landeskog. I know its all hindsight, but right now Landeskog looks like the more mature player. Not saying Nuge wont be there one day.Fair or not Landeskog beat Nuge on the Calder.

You can't evaluate picks in hindsight. Otherwise people would be saying you should have taken Datsuyk over literally everyone else in that draft.

You have to look at the circumstances at the time of draft. When they picked, given the team make up, given they drafted a winger the year before, should they have taken Landeskog? No. All day no.

Comparing players in hindisight is ridiculous.

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#57 DrunkGuyTy
April 23 2014, 11:55AM
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Good read Sutherby. Are you interested in a hopefully-soon-to-be-vacant assistant coach opportunity?

I really like your take on all of your topics and appreciate your perspective as a former player (same for Strudwick) who didn't play like a 'kitten' .

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#58 Sorensenator
April 23 2014, 11:58AM
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Oiler Al wrote:

Sorry Craig, dont mean to go back and forth on this, but my original point was that Colorado didnt take the BPA,where the Oilers would have.

I was comparing NUGE to Landeskog. I know its all hindsight, but right now Landeskog looks like the more mature player. Not saying Nuge wont be there one day.Fair or not Landeskog beat Nuge on the Calder.

Beat Nuge on the Calder only because Nuge hurt his shoulder and missed the last 20 games.

Nuge had 52 pts in 62 games... Pro rate that over 82 games and you got 69 pts which is better then Nathan McKinnon.

I believe Nuge is in transition right now. Eakins made him do some crazy diet and workout regime and he gained 9 pounds of muscle but seemed slower on the ice. Sometimes we should just let things happen naturally.

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#59 backup bob
April 23 2014, 11:59AM
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Watched Kings and Sharks last night. How are the Oilers going to compete with teams like that.

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#60 MattL
April 23 2014, 12:00PM
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Pizzy wrote:

Anyone think there is any truth to this?

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Eklund/Edmonton-Readying-Major-Offer-Calder-Finalists-NamedYour-pick/1/59611

Eklund RSS• Archive• CONTACT

From a source..." the Edmonton Oilers are putting together a major package for a big time top two defenseman on a team that is still playing in the NHL playoffs... This trade would include their first round selection, plus a major player and would return the defender and a first and second round pick." Stay tuned...

Nobody does, no.

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#61 Derian Hatcher
April 23 2014, 12:13PM
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I am confident that the Oiler braintrust, Klowe, MacT, Howson, Magnificent B, and the host of pro and amateur scouts will do their homework, and pick the right player to fill the team need for years to come. I know it's not an exact science, but the right minds are on the job. They have proven they know waht they are doing and their history speaks for itself. Right?

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#62 Sorensenator
April 23 2014, 12:15PM
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Pizzy wrote:

Anyone think there is any truth to this?

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Eklund/Edmonton-Readying-Major-Offer-Calder-Finalists-NamedYour-pick/1/59611

Eklund RSS• Archive• CONTACT

From a source..." the Edmonton Oilers are putting together a major package for a big time top two defenseman on a team that is still playing in the NHL playoffs... This trade would include their first round selection, plus a major player and would return the defender and a first and second round pick." Stay tuned...

The fact that Eklund can only narrow it down to it's going to be a player on a team still in the playoffs makes me think he is making it up as usual.

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#63 Will
April 23 2014, 12:15PM
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@MattL

I agree, that hockey buzz guy throws everything at the wall. He is wrong like 90% of the time, and then isn't right, but just happens to say something that also turns out to happen. Like if I said every day that tomorrow was going to be sunny, cloudy, raining, and/or snowing. Eventually I would be 'correct'

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#64 backup bob
April 23 2014, 12:16PM
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Too many posts comparing every last detail about possible draft picks. Stop including undrafted players on the current Oiler roster.

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#65 DisappointedFan
April 23 2014, 12:19PM
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Derian Hatcher wrote:

I am confident that the Oiler braintrust, Klowe, MacT, Howson, Magnificent B, and the host of pro and amateur scouts will do their homework, and pick the right player to fill the team need for years to come. I know it's not an exact science, but the right minds are on the job. They have proven they know waht they are doing and their history speaks for itself. Right?

Just like when Katz picked Yakupov...right? The brain-trust was in on that one too.

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#66 Spydyr
April 23 2014, 12:27PM
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Derian Hatcher wrote:

I am confident that the Oiler braintrust, Klowe, MacT, Howson, Magnificent B, and the host of pro and amateur scouts will do their homework, and pick the right player to fill the team need for years to come. I know it's not an exact science, but the right minds are on the job. They have proven they know waht they are doing and their history speaks for itself. Right?

I would prefer they just followed Mackenzie's draft list than having "The braintrust" thinking they are the smartest people in the room and making another Plante type pick.

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#67 Time Travelling Sean
April 23 2014, 12:28PM
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To everyone saying Landie is better than Nuge at this point in their careers needs to look back at their respective scouting reports.

Landie was more NHL ready with a lower ceiling, Nuge had a sky high ceiling but needed to mature.

I guess that's what your seeing now, Landie probably won't get any better than he is now, whereas Nuge has the ability still to be a 90 point guy.

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#68 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
April 23 2014, 12:39PM
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Pizzy wrote:

Anyone think there is any truth to this?

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Eklund/Edmonton-Readying-Major-Offer-Calder-Finalists-NamedYour-pick/1/59611

Eklund RSS• Archive• CONTACT

From a source..." the Edmonton Oilers are putting together a major package for a big time top two defenseman on a team that is still playing in the NHL playoffs... This trade would include their first round selection, plus a major player and would return the defender and a first and second round pick." Stay tuned...

Just to clarify....

So we're talking a definite No.2 guy, and not a 1, as mentioned in the release. Braydon Coburn = no bloody way. Eric Brewer was still in the playoffs when this went out. More short sighted bandaids that end up biting them in the arse. The price of impatience could astound us all.

Does "said" player even want to come here, or sign an extension?

Would a multi year non playoff seconds guy like Shea Weber be a better/cheaper option?

The Oilers come to camp, again in the fall without a #1/2 center, and without a #1 defender on the roster. Doesn't this scream lottery pick next season to everyone as well?

Keep/draft Sam Bennett with that 3rd, and keep Yak/Eberle, and thank the hockey Gods you regained your sanity.

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#69 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
April 23 2014, 12:47PM
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Spydyr wrote:

I would prefer they just followed Mackenzie's draft list than having "The braintrust" thinking they are the smartest people in the room and making another Plante type pick.

I thought it was cloaked sarcasm, but maybe you're right.

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#70 Spydyr
April 23 2014, 12:51PM
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Next up, is Connor McJesus. wrote:

Just to clarify....

So we're talking a definite No.2 guy, and not a 1, as mentioned in the release. Braydon Coburn = no bloody way. Eric Brewer was still in the playoffs when this went out. More short sighted bandaids that end up biting them in the arse. The price of impatience could astound us all.

Does "said" player even want to come here, or sign an extension?

Would a multi year non playoff seconds guy like Shea Weber be a better/cheaper option?

The Oilers come to camp, again in the fall without a #1/2 center, and without a #1 defender on the roster. Doesn't this scream lottery pick next season to everyone as well?

Keep/draft Sam Bennett with that 3rd, and keep Yak/Eberle, and thank the hockey Gods you regained your sanity.

With the deep draft next years and the kids on defence at least two years from being NHL ready and proven.It might not be a bad thing to get one more high pick next year.I know ,I know we suffered long enough but I would rather have one more year of suck then have "The Braintrust" screw up a "bold" trade.

That is how little faith I have in "The Braintrust" .

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#71 madjam
April 23 2014, 12:53PM
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Pizzy wrote:

Anyone think there is any truth to this?

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Eklund/Edmonton-Readying-Major-Offer-Calder-Finalists-NamedYour-pick/1/59611

Eklund RSS• Archive• CONTACT

From a source..." the Edmonton Oilers are putting together a major package for a big time top two defenseman on a team that is still playing in the NHL playoffs... This trade would include their first round selection, plus a major player and would return the defender and a first and second round pick." Stay tuned...

Sounds like P.K. Subban if Perron or Yak is involved .

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#72 NJ
April 23 2014, 12:59PM
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Draisaitl vs Bennett.

I believe the Oilers need compete more than anything and Bennett brings that. Nobody has bothered to touch on Draisaitl, his size and his ability to protect the puck. I understand he doesn't play with that edge however at this point, does the second line need some size OR someone (else) to play with edge?

It's simply a question, but it's not one we can answer... the question that needs to be asked is this: What can MacT find for us outside of the draft... size? or edge? Facts are, if there's edge on the 3rd/4th line, it's less required on the top two... however to compete in the cycle game, you need size.

Matt Cooke. Reality check. On March 21, 2011 he had his last suspension. He has worked hard to change his game to play within the rules and he hasn't been suspended in the last 3 seasons as far as I can see. He went from 129 pims to 44 and 39 respectively. I'm not saying the hit wasn't dirty. I'm suggesting that he's worked hard to change his game to conform to the rules and doesn't really deserve the hate.

As far as pick value and #9 being worth a "true number 1" goaltender... I don't think Schneider is yet proven as a #1 goaltender and generally tenders are worth (almost) nothing. I would suggest that the #1-4 picks this year are worth probably a 2nd liner + a good draft pick / prospect... but who really knows? Most GMs aren't trading picks because the top 10 generally turn into top players and keeping the pipeline full is a priority.

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#73 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
April 23 2014, 01:05PM
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madjam wrote:

Sounds like P.K. Subban if Perron or Yak is involved .

The last superstar we got from Montreal (Souray) was thrown under the bus in record time by this management group.

Oilers would have to give him 8 mill a year to keep him here. Don't we have enough guys who struggle in their own end already?

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#74 NJ
April 23 2014, 01:18PM
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Next up, is Connor McJesus. wrote:

The last superstar we got from Montreal (Souray) was thrown under the bus in record time by this management group.

Oilers would have to give him 8 mill a year to keep him here. Don't we have enough guys who struggle in their own end already?

Sorry. Are you saying you don't want PK here? A guy who competes, boomer of a shot for our ailing PP and plays with the passion of draft year Yakupov?

*pokes eyes out with fork*

I'd give him 8 million for 7 years to sign here. Just sayin.

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#75 Wonger
April 23 2014, 01:22PM
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Next up, is Connor McJesus. wrote:

Okay Wonger, hold your horses.

Who elses pick do we need to acquire to get this Nick Ritchie kid? Is he in that 10-15 range, or will he still be there when our 4th rounder rolls around?

Between you and I Wonger, we can rebuild this thing!

WCC -Wonger Central Scouting - rates Ritchie 6th but he could go anywhere from 5 (Brian Burke) to 10! By the way, Brian Sutherby would be an excellent choice for an assistant coaching position with the Oilers!

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#76 Spydyr
April 23 2014, 01:27PM
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Next up, is Connor McJesus. wrote:

I thought it was cloaked sarcasm, but maybe you're right.

No sarcasm.They have gone on walkabout a few times and not once has it worked out for them.

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#77 Wonger
April 23 2014, 01:31PM
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Wonger wrote:

WCC -Wonger Central Scouting - rates Ritchie 6th but he could go anywhere from 5 (Brian Burke) to 10! By the way, Brian Sutherby would be an excellent choice for an assistant coaching position with the Oilers!

oops WCS- Wonger Central Scouting (we look at PIMS first) not WCC- Wonger Capital Corp. (one of my many other ventures)!

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#78 Next up, is Connor McJesus.
April 23 2014, 01:49PM
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NJ wrote:

Sorry. Are you saying you don't want PK here? A guy who competes, boomer of a shot for our ailing PP and plays with the passion of draft year Yakupov?

*pokes eyes out with fork*

I'd give him 8 million for 7 years to sign here. Just sayin.

The guy the Montreal Canadiens are about to give up on, because they know giving him that contract is a huge mistake for a solid #2 guy, and far from the #1 guy needed here. The Oilers have many potential #2 guys playing on the team now. Why make a mistake like Subban and throw your whole salary structure out the window?

The Canadiens are willing to part ways with PK. That should say something to you.

Best not poke out both your eyes NJ, you may need one to watch the telly.

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#79 Aitch
April 23 2014, 02:05PM
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@Oiler Al

No. That's not what I'm saying at all. But I'm also not basing my opinion solely off the final standings this year.

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#80 Sorensenator
April 23 2014, 02:08PM
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Next up, is Connor McJesus. wrote:

The guy the Montreal Canadiens are about to give up on, because they know giving him that contract is a huge mistake for a solid #2 guy, and far from the #1 guy needed here. The Oilers have many potential #2 guys playing on the team now. Why make a mistake like Subban and throw your whole salary structure out the window?

The Canadiens are willing to part ways with PK. That should say something to you.

Best not poke out both your eyes NJ, you may need one to watch the telly.

Therrien is a moron when it comes to handling Subban.

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#81 Alsker
April 23 2014, 02:25PM
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Sorensenator wrote:

Therrien is a moron when it comes to handling Subban.

Like Eakins is a moron when dealing with Yak....

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#82 Sorensenator
April 23 2014, 02:29PM
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Alsker wrote:

Like Eakins is a moron when dealing with Yak....

Yep always putting him with Gagner which made him look worse. Poor bastard.

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#83 NJ
April 23 2014, 02:37PM
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@Next up, is Connor McJesus.

We can agree to disagree.

I would suggest that Montreal and their choices are not the standard to set anything by. We my have one potential #2 guy in Nurse, however I would suggest Pk signing here would be a significant upgrade on a J Shultz in every way. I'm assuming you have him pencilled in as a number 2 as well. No offense but I can't see a bonafide #2 NHL defenseman showing up on Oiler ice for at least 3 years if you include any developmental curve ... Unless of course MacT acquires one via trade.

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#84 Jeffff
April 23 2014, 02:38PM
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Brian Sutherby thinks Bennett is 5'11 or Leon D is 6'3

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#85 pelhem grenville
April 23 2014, 03:07PM
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http://www.thescoutingreport.org/player/sam-bennett

http://www.thescoutingreport.org/player/leon-draisaitl

jeffff...here's a site that's got sam@6ft and leon @6ft2

...weights list 30POUNDS different...jus sayin

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#86 Jeffff
April 23 2014, 03:36PM
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pelhem grenville wrote:

http://www.thescoutingreport.org/player/sam-bennett

http://www.thescoutingreport.org/player/leon-draisaitl

jeffff...here's a site that's got sam@6ft and leon @6ft2

...weights list 30POUNDS different...jus sayin

Some obsolete site, has Bennett ranked #9.

Go to hockey DB the real site.

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#87 John Kirsch
April 23 2014, 03:56PM
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Oiler Al wrote:

Sorry Craig, dont mean to go back and forth on this, but my original point was that Colorado didnt take the BPA,where the Oilers would have.

I was comparing NUGE to Landeskog. I know its all hindsight, but right now Landeskog looks like the more mature player. Not saying Nuge wont be there one day.Fair or not Landeskog beat Nuge on the Calder.

McKinnon is an elite talent for sure, I believe in the Crosby mold, the Oil have not lucked out and gotten that type of "generational" player like Pitt has with Crosby and Malkin. Next year we are looking at perhaps 2-3 potential generational players in CMD, Hanifin and Eichel. The Oil I believe be will get one of these studs, but who knows with are luck we will finish ~9.

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#88 Shaun
April 23 2014, 04:10PM
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Draisaitl

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#89 steveb12344
April 23 2014, 04:13PM
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madjam wrote:

Sounds like P.K. Subban if Perron or Yak is involved .

I was already thinking about this as a possibility. I think Mtl would have a keen interest in reuniting Yak and Gally, and may value Yak a little higher than most teams.

Say what you want about P.K. but the guy was a freakin Norris winner just last year. That makes him a bonafide number 1 in my books. Show me another Norris winner who wouldn't be considered a #1D. That's a very hard trophy to win.

I was thinking it might be Yak and Marincin for Subban, and maybe a pick or something. Yak and our first for P.K and their first would work too.

I'm not sure how I would feel about that trade if it were to happen (though I doubt Eklund has any inside info on this one.) It just seems like it might make sense for both clubs.

What would you guys think about that?

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#90 Will
April 23 2014, 04:31PM
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steveb12344 wrote:

I was already thinking about this as a possibility. I think Mtl would have a keen interest in reuniting Yak and Gally, and may value Yak a little higher than most teams.

Say what you want about P.K. but the guy was a freakin Norris winner just last year. That makes him a bonafide number 1 in my books. Show me another Norris winner who wouldn't be considered a #1D. That's a very hard trophy to win.

I was thinking it might be Yak and Marincin for Subban, and maybe a pick or something. Yak and our first for P.K and their first would work too.

I'm not sure how I would feel about that trade if it were to happen (though I doubt Eklund has any inside info on this one.) It just seems like it might make sense for both clubs.

What would you guys think about that?

That's a bit of an overpay in my books. But sadly I think that's what ti will take to get what the team needs.

But to give up Yak, a potential future number 1 D, and top 3 pick that will land a future number 2 C or future number 1 D is a steep price to pay for Subban. If it was Webber, then I'd do this deal. I probably still would for Subban, I just wouldn't be crazy happy about it.

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April 23 2014, 05:05PM
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Okay, so Subban gets his 8, along with other overpays rampant throughout your top 8-10 minute munchers. It makes achieving any resemblance of depth impossible. 6 for Eberle, 6 for Hopkins, both punching well under their weight class.

Having your 4th line playing for league minimum isn't going to cut it.

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#92 steveb12344
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Will wrote:

That's a bit of an overpay in my books. But sadly I think that's what ti will take to get what the team needs.

But to give up Yak, a potential future number 1 D, and top 3 pick that will land a future number 2 C or future number 1 D is a steep price to pay for Subban. If it was Webber, then I'd do this deal. I probably still would for Subban, I just wouldn't be crazy happy about it.

I said Yak and our first for P.K. and their first. Not Marincin as well

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#93 J.R.
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Like Eakins is a moron when dealing with Yak....

My thoughts exactly. Eakins is the only coach we've ever had that I want gone.

-Mishandling Yak. -Smyth at center. -Too much line juggling. -Will Acton. -Not playing Hall, Eberle and RNH together like clockwork at the beginning of the year. -Stupid swarm defense. -Killed the power play. -Yelled at Hall for squirting him with water by accident.

What did I miss?

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#94 pelhem grenville
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...jefffffffff from your real site HOCKEYdb

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=160174 http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=160174

Bennett Height 6.00 -- Weight 181 Draisaitl Height 6.01 -- Weight 209

ok... 1 inch in height 28 pounds in weight

never talked draft positions, you were

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#95 pelhem grenville
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Jeffff wrote:

Some obsolete site, has Bennett ranked #9.

Go to hockey DB the real site.

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#96 pelhem grenville
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pelhem grenville wrote:

http://www.thescoutingreport.org/player/sam-bennett

http://www.thescoutingreport.org/player/leon-draisaitl

jeffff...here's a site that's got sam@6ft and leon @6ft2

...weights list 30POUNDS different...jus sayin

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#97 madjam
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Being as Habs do not have a second round choice this season , I doubt we will get Subban . Anaheim has two first rounders (tenth and 28th) and I wonder if C.Fowler might be our target ?

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#98 Dan 1919
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Next up, is Connor McJesus. wrote:

The last superstar we got from Montreal (Souray) was thrown under the bus in record time by this management group.

Oilers would have to give him 8 mill a year to keep him here. Don't we have enough guys who struggle in their own end already?

The beauty of being a perennial worst team in the NHL is our best defencemen aren't actually very good.

If PK ever landed here he would be the best all around d-man on the Oilers, guaranteed. He is no worse defensively than any d-man on the Oilers. Plus, given PK's ridiculous skill set he will drastically improve all around year over year and I think will actually be very good even in his own end in a short time.

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#99 Dan 1919
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Regardless I don't think PK is going anywhere, even Montreal realizes how good he is. Has anyone else been watching them play, PK is quarter-backing a scoring chance every shift, the guy is nuts and is only going to get better.

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#100 Spydyr
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My thoughts exactly. Eakins is the only coach we've ever had that I want gone.

-Mishandling Yak. -Smyth at center. -Too much line juggling. -Will Acton. -Not playing Hall, Eberle and RNH together like clockwork at the beginning of the year. -Stupid swarm defense. -Killed the power play. -Yelled at Hall for squirting him with water by accident.

What did I miss?

Took away Terry Jones's donuts.

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