GDB Wrap Up: Ducks @ Oilers

baggedmilk
April 06 2014 09:00PM

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79 down, 3 to go. Final Score: 4-2 Oilers

It's strange to think that there are only 3 games left on the season after tonight. Last summer, we all had hope for a playoff run only to be eliminated by November. What the hell went wrong? (everything went wrong, I know) I don't know about you guys, but this season felt so much longer because of the expectations. Back in September, I was already making plans for how to steal the Zamboni and get it to Whyte Ave. Fast forward to today and all we have left is to cheer on the Leafs collapse and other draft lottery. For shame, Oilers. For shame.

On the bright side, the Oilers won tonight and the draft whiners go to bed upset. I'm not sure why that makes me happy but it does. I guess it's just that cheering against the Oilers for the 600th consecutive seasons bums me out and I've had enough of it. I'm happy to see wins regardless of what it does to the draft position.  Call me crazy but depending on 18 year olds to be difference makers hasn't worked out lately. Feel free to tell me how stupid I am in the comments.

Let's wrap it up...

The Bright Side

  • Viktor Fasth we speak your name!
  • THE OILERS SCORED A SHORTHANDED GOAL!
  • Anti-fight society was really upset tonight
  • 27 goals for Hall, Eberle, and Perron
  • The Oilers actually won on a National Broadcast

The Face Palmers

  • GREAT START, BOYS! #NotReally
  • TSN actually thinks Taylor Hall is a worse player than Chris Kunitz
  • Rexall DJ plays Wooly Bully to get the crowd fired up for the power play
  • Draft Whiners are looking at a sleepless night

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#1 Wonger
April 06 2014, 09:15PM
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1st star: PINIZZOTTO aka PinizzottKO 2nd star: HENDY 3rd star: FRASER

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#3 Bishai in the Benches
April 06 2014, 09:22PM
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BAGGED MILK YOU ARE NOT DUMB.

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#4 Loyal Oil
April 06 2014, 09:25PM
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Fire Kevin Lowe! Plllllllllllllease...

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#5 Mr common sense
April 06 2014, 09:37PM
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Now these morons are winning and battling 1 goal games!!!?? Wtf!! Lose you dumb morons you're ruining the draft!! They can't do anything right

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#6 RexHolez
April 06 2014, 09:37PM
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Did anyone tell Anaheim that they had a game to play tonight? They forgot to show up

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#7 Bicepus Maximus - Huge fan boy!
April 06 2014, 09:44PM
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I'm torn. I wanna see effort that leads to wins, but at the same time, why the hell bother if this is nothing more than a mirage?

You go on a win streak to end this garbage season, you better continue that through the start of next.

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#8 Time Travelling Sean
April 06 2014, 09:47PM
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WOW. Who says we couldn't win in a play-off series against one of these big teams eh? eh? If this was a best of 5 we would be moving on no doubt. Absolutely no doubt at all.

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#9 Fish
April 06 2014, 10:04PM
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Finishing third (for the draft) might actually work out in our favour. Sam R to Buf. Ekblad will not get passed The Panthers. Leaving The big German for us as our our new 2C. Now management CANT rely on an 18 to fix the blue. Pretty sure that was the plan, and it wasn't a very good one at that. Go get some vets for that fix. Goodbye Gagner. Thanks Florida

#forcingmanagementtdowhatsright

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#10 Danoilerfanincalgary
April 06 2014, 10:18PM
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This team is better than the one that started the year with the additions of Scrivens, Fasth, Hendricks, Marincin and K-Bomb. They are playing like a team and they are tougher MacT has done good work so far. Even Gagner has looked better recently.

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#11 DrunkGuyTy
April 06 2014, 10:19PM
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Beat 'em AND beat 'em up.

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#12 The Beaker
April 06 2014, 10:31PM
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Fish wrote:

Finishing third (for the draft) might actually work out in our favour. Sam R to Buf. Ekblad will not get passed The Panthers. Leaving The big German for us as our our new 2C. Now management CANT rely on an 18 to fix the blue. Pretty sure that was the plan, and it wasn't a very good one at that. Go get some vets for that fix. Goodbye Gagner. Thanks Florida

#forcingmanagementtdowhatsright

so you think an 18 year old to fix the blue is a bad idea but an 18 year old to fix our 2c spot is a good one?

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#13 Josh rose
April 06 2014, 10:49PM
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This team cant even lose properly, the seasons a write off, the ONLY light at the end of the tunnel is a kid by the name of Aaron Ekblad, and we are on the verge of messing that all up. Although if we do draft ekblad we'll probably rush him into this disaster organization and ruin his developement anyways. Who are we kidding

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#14 Pouzar99
April 06 2014, 10:55PM
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We should all stay calm but after the brain cramp against Buffalo and Calgary, the lads have righted the ship (apart from the disaster against the Rangers) and played some of their best hockey of the season against very good opponents, all of whom have something to play for. Obviously they have lots of holes still, and you know they are liable to turn in a stinker without warning, but they are playing fairly well despite their awful third pairing of Belov and Fraser, whom hopefully will soon be a distant memory.

Of course a key to this is that it only took Eakins 76 games to figure out that Hall, Nuge and Eberle make a pretty good line when you actually allow them to play together for more than two or three shifts. Who knew? Well everybody but Eakins, but next year MacT may add a Strategy assist coach, a Motivator assistant Coach as well as a Special Teams assistant coach, so Eakins can concentrate on avoiding thrown water bottles.

We should be able to address a major problem in the draft, hopefully pick up at least one legitimate Top 4 D man (please make it two!) and a credible junkyard dog bottom six forward and take a step forward despite Coach Bonehead. Personally I'm headed for the Himalayas for 4 months (seriously), avoiding the internet and hoping that when I re-surface in mid-December Eakins is pumping gas and coaching Pee Wees, the boys are above a point-per-game pace and the guy I sell off my first three months of tickets to isn't demanding a refund.

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#15 hagargt
April 06 2014, 11:03PM
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This isn't some magical coming together of a system. Don't get your hopes up too high just yet! This team can just as easily lose 7 games in a row, as win two in a row. I still applaud the enthusiasm of those people that see a positive trend! I have been there 165 times now myself.

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#16 Taylor Gang
April 06 2014, 11:03PM
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Man what does my man Hallsy gotta do to get some respect in this league? After his most recent performance he is now 7th in the NHL in points, and he's missed 7 games! Yet he's somehow worse than Chris "freeloader" Kunitz...

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#17 5>1>0
April 06 2014, 11:10PM
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What did TSN say about the Oilers and Hall at the INT? What players were on the list?

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#18 hagargt
April 06 2014, 11:19PM
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Taylor Gang wrote:

Man what does my man Hallsy gotta do to get some respect in this league? After his most recent performance he is now 7th in the NHL in points, and he's missed 7 games! Yet he's somehow worse than Chris "freeloader" Kunitz...

What did I miss? I don't know what you are talking about.

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#19 Total Points
April 06 2014, 11:20PM
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Taylor is fun to watch and starting to play a complete game.

I cant wait to see how he performs at the World Hockey Tournament

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#20 Taylor Gang
April 06 2014, 11:27PM
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5>1>0 wrote:

What did TSN say about the Oilers and Hall at the INT? What players were on the list?

They were talking about left wingers in contention for first and second team all star honours. Sharp, Benn, Hall, and Kunitz were the choices. Mclennan said Hall was the fourth best on that list.

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#21 mesa
April 07 2014, 12:18AM
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and i say Mclennan an idiot. good nite.

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#22 Spydyr
April 07 2014, 12:38AM
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Too bad the Oilers did not play with the passion they showed tonight when,you know, the games mattered.

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#23 David S
April 07 2014, 12:46AM
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The Beaker wrote:

so you think an 18 year old to fix the blue is a bad idea but an 18 year old to fix our 2c spot is a good one?

Propped the living h3ll out of this one.*

*Once

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#24 Taylor Gang
April 07 2014, 12:49AM
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Spydyr wrote:

Too bad the Oilers did not play with the passion they showed tonight when,you know, the games mattered.

They did before Dubnyk decided he sucked

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#25 R U Kidding Me!
April 07 2014, 01:26AM
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Nice to see Jultz starting to come around.

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#26 Jason
April 07 2014, 02:03AM
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What's sad is everyone is blaming Oilers Dmen this year. It's a team to play defense not just the Dmen.

Look at other teams, no name Dmen and they still win games. Look at the Avs, they won 50 games this year.

Florida Panthers has 1 point less than us and they allowed 3 fewer goals with no name Dmen also. It's the head coach that get the team play at a higher level and win with what he has. Panthers has no young guns and their top scorer has 36 points, top goal scorer has 20. They have no talent but only 1 point behind Oilers.

Time to bring in a real coach to coach this team, we have some good players here. STOP blaming the players.

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#27 Fish
April 07 2014, 02:16AM
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@The Beaker

No, it's not ideal. I'd much rather have a ten year vet who routinely puts up 75pts a year and is 6'2 225. But since they don't grow on trees we have to settle. I would however prefer an 18 year old 2C over an 18 year old 2-3D. Neither is ideal but given our roster I'd prefer the former rather than the later. I challenge you to argue otherwise.

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#28 TheresAlwaysNextYear
April 07 2014, 02:20AM
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Wonger wrote:

1st star: PINIZZOTTO aka PinizzottKO 2nd star: HENDY 3rd star: FRASER

I am honestly glad the Oilers have players that are willing to fight these days. We've been missing this type of hockey for the last 5 seasons. Stortini doesn't count! Like what Brian Burke said, Alberta hockey should be black and blue hockey. We have the warriors to battle against the Canucks and Flames for once.

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#29 Aitch
April 07 2014, 04:39AM
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Lip-reading Pinizotto in the box after the fight, I picked up on two answers to q's from Belesky

1. "I don't care!"
2. " I'm fighting for a job."

I think he decided before the game that he was fighting someone at home last night. Belesky was just the unfortunate fellow who drew the short straw.

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#30 pelhem grenville
April 07 2014, 04:41AM
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Fish wrote:

No, it's not ideal. I'd much rather have a ten year vet who routinely puts up 75pts a year and is 6'2 225. But since they don't grow on trees we have to settle. I would however prefer an 18 year old 2C over an 18 year old 2-3D. Neither is ideal but given our roster I'd prefer the former rather than the later. I challenge you to argue otherwise.

..ya I'm on board with a 2C over a drafted dman this year ... mostly because I think you'll actually see the 2C maybe three C play for the Oilers rather than die wondering how the young drafted dman (ala 84) is doing in the minors or some Euro country for 5o years before they take a chance on bringing him up or over ...see Monahan in Calgary? 19yrs old 32 points...but plays IN their building IN the NHL all season long ...I'm thinking anyone of those centres up for grabs in the draft this year just might actually play in Rexall next year...or do you just wanna see and scream at 89 again all of next year ?

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#31 Gk1980
April 07 2014, 06:02AM
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Time Travelling Sean wrote:

WOW. Who says we couldn't win in a play-off series against one of these big teams eh? eh? If this was a best of 5 we would be moving on no doubt. Absolutely no doubt at all.

Ok pal, that koolaid stain on your upper lip is pretty obvious. Boys won but they still played 80% of the game in their own zone once again chasing 250 lbs gorillas. Still have to fix this team this summer. Good luck MacT......

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#32 The Soup Fascist
April 07 2014, 07:19AM
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Random thoughts:

As a fan winning games is way more fun than losing.

Changing the losing culture NOW is way more important than one draft position, IMO.

If Jamie Mac actually said that "Coat tails" Kunitz is a better hockey player than Hall, he played played one too many shinny games in St Albert as a kid - without his mask.

The Oilers still have fundamental problems with their line up. Let's hope Mac T does not lose sight of that due to somewhat improved play the last couple of games of the year.

For the love of (Serious) Gord, one - or all - of our mid heavies better go after "No Class" Kassian on Saturday. I know Gazdic tried to get him to go. I suspect Hendy won't give him a choice.

Is it just me or does the team look better when Ference is out of the lineup? Don't get me wrong, I like him. But to me this shows he is ruefully ineffective playing top pairing minutes. Like almost all our defensemen, playing more minutes than they should is detrimental. Finding a horse should be Mac T's biggest priority.

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#33 The Beaker
April 07 2014, 07:24AM
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Fish wrote:

No, it's not ideal. I'd much rather have a ten year vet who routinely puts up 75pts a year and is 6'2 225. But since they don't grow on trees we have to settle. I would however prefer an 18 year old 2C over an 18 year old 2-3D. Neither is ideal but given our roster I'd prefer the former rather than the later. I challenge you to argue otherwise.

I'm saying it shouldnt just be a choice between the former and the latter. To be honest, if Ekblad is there we're taking him. My preference is to send either of them back to junior and not try and have an 18 year old be the solution to anything.

If we draft Ekblad we are also likely trading one of Ekblad, Nurse, Marincin, Klefbom because we will have a huge logjam of defense that should be pushing up in 2015-2016. One of those peices can be used as a part in filling one of those holes in the lineup.

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#34 gk1980
April 07 2014, 07:27AM
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Correct me if I'm wrong but it seems easier acquiring forwards through trades, UFA ect. then a "Good" defencemen. I say draft Ecklad and trade for a 2C.

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#35 I tried it at home
April 07 2014, 07:33AM
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Bicepus Maximus - Huge fan boy! wrote:

I'm torn. I wanna see effort that leads to wins, but at the same time, why the hell bother if this is nothing more than a mirage?

You go on a win streak to end this garbage season, you better continue that through the start of next.

Well said, Sir!

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#36 Spydyr
April 07 2014, 07:41AM
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Taylor Gang wrote:

They did before Dubnyk decided he sucked

So you are saying letting in weak goals hurts a team.Who would of thought.

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#37 Cnaddy
April 07 2014, 08:00AM
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Can someone fill me in on what TSN said about Kunitz being better then Hall? I missed the first period.

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#38 michael
April 07 2014, 08:00AM
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Taylor Gang wrote:

Man what does my man Hallsy gotta do to get some respect in this league? After his most recent performance he is now 7th in the NHL in points, and he's missed 7 games! Yet he's somehow worse than Chris "freeloader" Kunitz...

Ok lets us review history for the folks at TSN a little because apparently they can't see past the dust that's coming from the collapse of their beloved Maple Leafs.

Taylor Hall is 7th with 77 points. Fact.

Taylor Hall played out of position at center for how many games this season early on.10 games? We all remember what a freakin disaster that was. Fact.

RNH gets backs from shoulder surgery. Fact.

Gagner loses half his face due to Kassian.Fact.

7 games lost to injury this season.Fact.

New coach. New system. Fact.

So TSN who plays with best center on the planet on a team with a host of complimentary players like Malkin,and Letang.Has had the same coach and has played the same system for how long?

So Kunitz is a better player than Hall how?

The learned gentlemen at TSN should give their collective heads a shake and look at the facts before they cast stones at Hall.

Hall is the best Left Winger in hockey bar none.Taylor is 100 point guy if he plays with Eberle and RNH for the full season.

Hall has 77 points. Good land folks we should be shouting for joy. Kunitz in a couple of years won't be able to hold a candle to Hall.

TSN has a built in Eastern bias on top of everything. Remember they live at the center of the universe.Toronto.

In a word.Dumbasses.

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#39 madjam
April 07 2014, 08:02AM
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Ekblad will be going first overall to Buffalo , unless Oilers win the lottery . Buffalo will have a great bunch of defencemen in the near future . Buffalo will take best available player , and that is Ekblad this year !

Nice to see our team actually playing like a team and also winning . To bad the young stars have had such a hard time dealing with pressure and adversity .They only seem to play well when the pressure on them and team is low .

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#40 Jacques Strap
April 07 2014, 08:05AM
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Nuge Hall and Eberle went head to head against Perry and Getzlaf tonight, and unless my eyes were playing tricks on me, they actually won a few battles and didn't back down.

Anybody who thinks that isn't better than drafting one spot higher should be banned from watching the playoffs when we finally do make it. Hopefully that happens in my lifetime. Maybe I'll have to start jogging and eating seaweeds.

Are we just not BOOing JEANSHORTS anymore?

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#41 Truth
April 07 2014, 08:06AM
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If Hall makes it to 30 goals I don't think they can keep him off one of the two All Star teams. TSN neglected to show the games played last night as well. I think it's relevant.

Taylor Hall - 72gp - 27G - 50A - 77pts

Patrick Sharp - 79gp - 33G - 43A - 76pts

Jamie Benn - 78gp - 33G - 42A - 75pts

Chris Kunitz - 76g - 35G - 32A - 67pts

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#43 Mo Playoffs Mo Problems
April 07 2014, 08:47AM
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Truth wrote:

If Hall makes it to 30 goals I don't think they can keep him off one of the two All Star teams. TSN neglected to show the games played last night as well. I think it's relevant.

Taylor Hall - 72gp - 27G - 50A - 77pts

Patrick Sharp - 79gp - 33G - 43A - 76pts

Jamie Benn - 78gp - 33G - 42A - 75pts

Chris Kunitz - 76g - 35G - 32A - 67pts

The fact that Taylor Hall had to play a few games out of position early this year probably didn't help his point totals either.

TSN just runs with the easy stories. To them Hall is: -the hotshot kid that Lindy Ruff benched at the WHC last spring -the hotshot kid that didn't have a good enough 2 way game to make the Canadian Olympic team

Sharp, Benn, and to a lesser extent Kunitz are all great hockey players, but none of them are game breakers the way that Hall is and should continue to be for a number of years. I know he still has room to grow, but his defensive game is also rounding into form nicely.

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#44 Wonger
April 07 2014, 08:58AM
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Aitch wrote:

Lip-reading Pinizotto in the box after the fight, I picked up on two answers to q's from Belesky

1. "I don't care!"
2. " I'm fighting for a job."

I think he decided before the game that he was fighting someone at home last night. Belesky was just the unfortunate fellow who drew the short straw.

He'd better have a job on the Oilers next year! We'd better start learning how to spell his last name correctly - PINIZZOTTO- Gazdic, Hendy, Pinizzotto - I am really liking our bottom 6 for next year!!! MACT is quietly and systematically fixing this team - goaltending, bottom 6 and much more to come this summer - 2C, Big top 6 forward, 2 2-4 Big,Steady D !!!! Go MACT!!!

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#45 City of Champignons
April 07 2014, 09:20AM
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Hey everyone,

SHUT UP ABOUT THE DRAFT!

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#46 BillHK
April 07 2014, 09:22AM
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The Soup Fascist wrote:

Random thoughts:

As a fan winning games is way more fun than losing.

Changing the losing culture NOW is way more important than one draft position, IMO.

If Jamie Mac actually said that "Coat tails" Kunitz is a better hockey player than Hall, he played played one too many shinny games in St Albert as a kid - without his mask.

The Oilers still have fundamental problems with their line up. Let's hope Mac T does not lose sight of that due to somewhat improved play the last couple of games of the year.

For the love of (Serious) Gord, one - or all - of our mid heavies better go after "No Class" Kassian on Saturday. I know Gazdic tried to get him to go. I suspect Hendy won't give him a choice.

Is it just me or does the team look better when Ference is out of the lineup? Don't get me wrong, I like him. But to me this shows he is ruefully ineffective playing top pairing minutes. Like almost all our defensemen, playing more minutes than they should is detrimental. Finding a horse should be Mac T's biggest priority.

They did go out and get SMac after a certain fateful game, but ole "Carry Water" believes I team toughness and would rather hit Kassian with Perron.

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#47 SmythsMullet
April 07 2014, 09:55AM
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#48 Jay from YYC
April 07 2014, 11:19AM
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@Mo Playoffs Mo Problems

I think Sharp and Benn are much better game breakers than Kunitz, but they offer a different style of play when compared to Hall. Hall's got a good explosive quality that's really entertaining to watch, especially when it comes out of nowhere. But I agree, he has room to grow and mature especially defensively. Instead of waiting for the breakout play, it'd be nice if he could be a bit more aggressive defensively.

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#49 Stompinstoms
April 07 2014, 11:26AM
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Mo Playoffs Mo Problems wrote:

The fact that Taylor Hall had to play a few games out of position early this year probably didn't help his point totals either.

TSN just runs with the easy stories. To them Hall is: -the hotshot kid that Lindy Ruff benched at the WHC last spring -the hotshot kid that didn't have a good enough 2 way game to make the Canadian Olympic team

Sharp, Benn, and to a lesser extent Kunitz are all great hockey players, but none of them are game breakers the way that Hall is and should continue to be for a number of years. I know he still has room to grow, but his defensive game is also rounding into form nicely.

I think Hall is definitely better than Kunitz, the rest is certainly debatable; but to say a player like Jamie Benn isn't a game breaker is a little ridiculous.

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#50 The Soup Fascist
April 07 2014, 11:33AM
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BillHK wrote:

They did go out and get SMac after a certain fateful game, but ole "Carry Water" believes I team toughness and would rather hit Kassian with Perron.

I think there is a middle ground.

Nothing would make me happier than SMac caving in Noclassian's face on Saturday night. But the Oil are unlikely to call him up for that sole purpose and as much as he is a stand up guy, he is not close to being an effective hockey player.

In the long term "functional toughness" is the way to go. Gazdic was trying to get Kassian to go, but of course he wanted no part of it. Gazdic is tough but needs to learn some gamesmanship.

While Hendy is not as big or tough as Gazdic he is more than willing and has a bit of a nutty side (which is good) that he may just grab Racki .... er ... Kassian and start throwing. Hendricks is not a speedster and handles the puck like it is a brick but he IS effective.

This team needs better hockey players, including in the bottom 6. PINIZZOTTO (thanks Wonger), Hendricks, and Fraser all showed up last night and were effective in the toughness department. However Pinizzotto is a journeyman and Fraser is not a D-man that can play every night, IMO.

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