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May 23 2014 08:45AM

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When it comes to the trade market this summer, Craig MacTavish does have one advantage: cap dollars. He can take on a big contract from a team with cap pressure, and might get a reasonable player at less than full value. Here are 7 such players who could help the Oilers next season.

THE BIG DOLLAR DEALS

  • D Dion Phaneuf $7M through 2020-21. That's a large cap hit, and Phaneuf isn't Doughty. However, he can play 25 minutes a night, and might form an effective pairing with Jeff Petry. Phaneuf isn't perfect, in fact he's famously flawed, but this is a player who is just 29, 300 games from 1,000 (solid NHL defensemen often fall off in that range) and can fill all the requirements of a top pairing blue.
  • C Jason Spezza $7M through 2014-15. A very risky acquisition because he's one year away from free agency, but he's a true talent and would give Edmonton a terrific option in their top 6F. The Senators have legit money worries, so he might be available for less than full price. It'll still be dear.
  • C Jordan Staal $6M through 2022-23. Staal is a really nice fit, but the contract is way too much for a guy who scores at his rates. The contract is forever, and the Hurricanes are clearly at some kind of crossroads. I don't know how much of a discount Edmonton could expect in a deal, but he'd be a perfect fit for the Oilers C depth chart.
  • C Mike Richards $5.75M through 2019-20. Also 29 and author of a terrific career, Richards appears to be eroding as a player. He's playing 2 minutes less per night than he was a couple of years ago, and his offense is off since heading to the coast. Edmonton would be taking on a long contract, and considerable risk, but could get a two-way center of some ability for a few seasons before buying him out.
  • L James Neal $5M through 2017-18. I really like this player, he's the kind of winger this team could use to help the power play. A very nice player, but as talented as he is there has been only one season of more than 30 goals. Pittsburgh has some legit issues, he might be available.
  • L Scott Hartnell $4.75M through 2018-19. Those rugged forwards have tremendous value, but their production can vary wildly from year to year, and injuries are always a major worry. Hartnell may not be available at a discount but the Oilers should be interested.
  • L RJ Umberger $4.6M through 2016-17. The least attractive player on the list, he's 32 and the production has been dropping consistently for half a decade. Still, Edmonton might be able to get a year or two of use out of him and he can score goals.

ACQUIRING USEFUL PLAYERS

Edmonton goes to market with a lot of flawed assets and very little currency (draft picks). If they make the pick at #3, Edmonton effectively puts itself out of the draft until middle of Day two. Sam Gagner isn't full value and other NHL teams are going to ask after those inexpensive defensemen who look NHL ready.

How does Edmonton add useful players this summer with lesser assets to offer? Acquire those awkward contracts. 

If the Oilers can acquire an overpriced but effective veteran in exchange for a part of the future, say, Martin Marincin, would you do it?

If not, are you willing for another trying season?

I believe that's the dilemma facing Craig MacTavish this summer.

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#1 Privateeye
May 23 2014, 11:35AM
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Can't believe how many fans want to give up on yak already. He's been in the league for 2 years. The kids going to be a superstar.

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#2 Racki
May 23 2014, 10:15AM
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madjam wrote:

first things first . I think oilers going to deal Yakupov to Florida for first round flip of picks with Florida and hopefully we also get a second or 3rd rounder in the deal somehow . I believe we will draft Ekblad with that pick . That should free up one of our other young defencemen for a further trade . Avoid long term diminishing contracts . spezza has only one year left and if it does not work out can be dealt at a reasonable turn . Neal's contract length not to bad as is Umberger's . do not care for Umberger , however .

I see on hockey buzz , Flames contemplating an offer sheet for O'Reilly from Colorado . Should we not be targeting him as well ?

Garth, is that you?

You want to give up the #3 pick plus a #1 overall player 2 years into his career for a two spot climb in the draft and a 2nd or 3rd scratch ticket? Are you insane?

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#3 Privateeye
May 23 2014, 11:14AM
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madjam wrote:

first things first . I think oilers going to deal Yakupov to Florida for first round flip of picks with Florida and hopefully we also get a second or 3rd rounder in the deal somehow . I believe we will draft Ekblad with that pick . That should free up one of our other young defencemen for a further trade . Avoid long term diminishing contracts . spezza has only one year left and if it does not work out can be dealt at a reasonable turn . Neal's contract length not to bad as is Umberger's . do not care for Umberger , however .

I see on hockey buzz , Flames contemplating an offer sheet for O'Reilly from Colorado . Should we not be targeting him as well ?

Move yak to move up 2 spots? Maybe if There was a clear cut No.1 pick, but there is not. Any of the top 5 prospects in this draft could go first overall. You are getting a good player regardless. Ludacris.

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#4 Strange Tamer
May 23 2014, 09:41AM
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I don't mind Staal at six million. He is 25, so just entering his prime and still young enough to be at a high level when the rest of the roster matures. Pencil him in for 45 points, 25 goals, penalty kill and tough assignments. Wins faceoffs, 6'4", 225lbs. Basically everything we wish our 2nd line center did, and only 1.2 million more a year than Gagne. Heck Nuge now makes 6 million and he has never scored 20 goals, killed penalties, won faceoffs, been 6'4" or 225lbs. He will be cheaper than Statsny. Good add if you ask me, especially if we draft Ekblad instead of one of the centers. He would fill a void and check off a lot of the boxes that we desperately need, not just now, but still few years from now. If your worried about term on the contract, by my math he would still only be 34 when the contract ends, an age that most good players are still contributing at a decent level.

Neal would be nice too. The rest of the forwards on the list are on the downside of their careers and wouldn't be worth assets unless you get them on the extreme cheap.

Phanuef is interesting. He checks off a lot of need boxes too and would be our best defenseman. But he is slightly overpaid now, and due to his age and the term left, he will be extremely overpaid five years from now. Short term gain for long term pain ? If you could get him cheap now and then hire Glenn Sather to be our GM in a couple of years to dump that contract on someone else for a future stud, then I would do it.

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#5 Casey
May 23 2014, 11:39AM
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I don't see the logic in trading Marincin unless it is to aquir a MUST HAVE player. Marincin just capped off 44 game season so to trade him and replace with Simpson or Klefbom is ridiculous. Second off Marty is 22 and is arguably already our best defensemen. He is only a -2. Schultz jr is 11x worse than Marty's plus minus. Marincin also teared it up at the world championship and was clearly Slovakia's best defensemen over there. Why not trade Schultz or Klefbom instead? We've traded proven NHL players for potential in the past and how did that work?

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#6 geoilersgist
May 23 2014, 09:32AM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

We should be mindful, that an amateur (Noah) built the ark. Experts built the Titanic.

Oilers = Titanic, they do think of themselves as hockey experts, no?

Zarny, Jason Spezza, 6'3" and 225lbs. Would he be included in that exclusive feared behemoth club you mentioned?

One of these things is not like the other... Titanic=Real, Noah and the ark=not real (no proof otherwise)

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#7 Zarny
May 23 2014, 10:48AM
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@madjam

Most do not think Ekblad will be the next Pronger. He's simply the best D in the draft.

He is a good skater and puck handler but not great. His stats are skewed by PP numbers in Jr he will never repeat as a pro. At even strength his offense lags Darnell Nurse let alone someone like Jones.

Moving up 2 spots and giving away a first overall pick who could very well be better than Ekblad in 4 years is dumb.

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#8 Ivan Drago
May 23 2014, 10:54AM
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madjam wrote:

first things first . I think oilers going to deal Yakupov to Florida for first round flip of picks with Florida and hopefully we also get a second or 3rd rounder in the deal somehow . I believe we will draft Ekblad with that pick . That should free up one of our other young defencemen for a further trade . Avoid long term diminishing contracts . spezza has only one year left and if it does not work out can be dealt at a reasonable turn . Neal's contract length not to bad as is Umberger's . do not care for Umberger , however .

I see on hockey buzz , Flames contemplating an offer sheet for O'Reilly from Colorado . Should we not be targeting him as well ?

You essentially want to trade Yak to move up two spots in the draft, when there is no consensus No 1? Ekblad might be there at 3. No one knows. You are mad. And prob a little off your rocker. And if you think a second rounder evens it up your also crazy.

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#9 @kahmad92
May 23 2014, 10:04AM
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madjam wrote:

first things first . I think oilers going to deal Yakupov to Florida for first round flip of picks with Florida and hopefully we also get a second or 3rd rounder in the deal somehow . I believe we will draft Ekblad with that pick . That should free up one of our other young defencemen for a further trade . Avoid long term diminishing contracts . spezza has only one year left and if it does not work out can be dealt at a reasonable turn . Neal's contract length not to bad as is Umberger's . do not care for Umberger , however .

I see on hockey buzz , Flames contemplating an offer sheet for O'Reilly from Colorado . Should we not be targeting him as well ?

Hell no to the top part!

Flames won't make an offer sheet with Burke as president; Burke hates offer sheets.

Also, you should know not to trust anything on hockeybuzz.

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#10 Spaceman Spiff
May 23 2014, 12:39PM
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I think that the no-brainer in that group is Jordan Staal. Yes, it’s a big cap hit for a long term, but I think he represents a lot of what the Oilers need up the middle – size, secondary-scoring, good on the faceoff, reasonably young. Plus, he’s won the Cup before (wouldn’t Pittsburgh love to have him back). Heck, I don’t know if it would even matter all that much if he didn’t produce more than, say, 50 points in a season. Staal would be a valuable player on Oilers if he was just a two-way guy. Yes, even at that price tag and term. So what would it take to make it happen? Gagner plus Klefbom? Gagner plus next year’s first-rounder? Yakupov and a second-rounder? I’m not sure. But it would be great if it happened.

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#11 Quicksilver ballet
May 23 2014, 09:01AM
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We should be mindful, that an amateur (Noah) built the ark. Experts built the Titanic.

Oilers = Titanic, they do think of themselves as hockey experts, no?

Zarny, Jason Spezza, 6'3" and 225lbs. Would he be included in that exclusive feared behemoth club you mentioned?

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#12 Reg Dunlop
May 23 2014, 09:31AM
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Building through the draft doesn't include trading players like Marincin for grouchy vets that don't want to be here. If, at best, half of our high-end D prospects turn into actual players, trading one or more is just too risky until we are sure what we are trading away. Like LA, who were willing to deal Teubert but not Voynov or Muzzin, we have to be sure. And really, do we have to make any moves at all? I have been assured that the young guns will tear it up next year after spurning team Canada and spending the extra 3 weeks bombing those lats and traps in the gym.

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#13 Quicksilver ballet
May 23 2014, 09:55AM
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geoilersgist wrote:

One of these things is not like the other... Titanic=Real, Noah and the ark=not real (no proof otherwise)

Blessed are those who believe, yet have not seen. Every one of us, a fine example of that hope. We all have/required faith our heart will beat again and again/allow us this day, no?

I do take issue with you calling our Oilers, not a real hockey club though...

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#14 Zarny
May 23 2014, 10:44AM
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Staal is the best option. He is only 25 and over the next 5 years Gagner may deliver a bit more offense but Staal is world class defensively and 6'4" 220 lbs. He's literally one of the best PK on the planet.

Neal is also a great option...when healthy. He plays LW but if you pencil him in behind Hall you can look at moving Perron, Eberle or Yakupov if none were involved in the deal to get Neal.

The Oilers shouldn't touch Umberger with their worst enemy's d*ck. He did nothing until he was 25; had a nice run of 40-55 pt in his prime and now at 32 he's done and nothing more than 4th line player on a good team.

Richards and Hartnell are 29 and 32. Their game will only decline and at their price it isn't worth it unless you are getting rid of Gagner's contract or getting a discount.

The synopsis on Phaneuf was bang on. Famously not perfect but depending on the price worth it.

Spezza has been one the best 3 or 4 offensive C in the league when healthy but he's 30 so a decline is likely and there is significant risk he'll bolt after next year.

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#16 Quicksilver ballet
May 23 2014, 09:20AM
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Compliance buyouts ( 2 max per team, ones that don't count against the cap) are only available last summer, along with this summer. That 2 yr window only for contracts registered before the last CBA. All others will have cap space consequences.

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#17 camdog
May 23 2014, 09:56AM
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If we make a noticeable trade this off season odds are Klefbomb or Marancin will be going back. So who do we move?

Thumbs up we trade Klefbomb, thumbs down we trade Marancin. Curious what everybody else thinks?

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#18 backup bob
May 23 2014, 12:34PM
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You call it like it is.

I think the secret Oiler plan is to rebuild through the draft, inline with the construction of the new arena. When the new building opens the team should be able to contend. Until then, the dark days continue.

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#19 ubermiguel
May 23 2014, 08:56AM
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I like Neal, Umburger and Hartnell but we don't need wingers unless one's going the other way. And Spezza will be too expensive as a 1 year rental.

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#20 Azaad
May 23 2014, 10:00AM
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The fact that you think we have a shot at any of these guys is ridiculous. The moment they find out they have been traded to the oil they'll probably run to the KHL....

Richards? Seriously, these guys wanna win the cup not the first overall pick

lol

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#21 BLAKPOO
May 23 2014, 11:48AM
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Zarny wrote:

MacT has 2 advantages: cap dollars and cheap assets (Klefbom/Marincin etc).

It's comical to read comments about how great Nurse, Klefbom and Marincin are and then project one of them to languish as a bottom pair D for the next 5 years.

They all play the left side and only 2 can play in the top 4. If they are all top pair or top 4 talents it is terrible asset management to pencil one in long term as a 5/6 D. Especially with the glut of D prospects like Musil, Simpson and Gernat who may not have as high a ceiling but certainly project to be 5/6 D in 2-3 years.

So yes, absolutely MacT should look at moving one of Klefbom, Marincin or Nurse this summer.

"This summer" seems a little premature. Agreed we have too many lefties, but I'd be loathe to deal one until they've all had an opportunity to develop and log some significant pro minutes.

Trading the wrong guy at this point would be like a knife in the heart of both fans and management.

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#22 ILoveTheOilersNr4TaylorHall
May 23 2014, 09:10AM
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I really think buying James Neal would be a really good choice, Neal, Richards and Phaneuf would be 3 players i would love to see joining us! :)

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#23 BlackGold19
May 23 2014, 08:01PM
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Dion Phaneuf!!! Please. He is lazy and divides the dressing room!!!!

To hell with him....

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#24 Ed in Edmonton
May 23 2014, 12:23PM
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Casey wrote:

I don't see the logic in trading Marincin unless it is to aquir a MUST HAVE player. Marincin just capped off 44 game season so to trade him and replace with Simpson or Klefbom is ridiculous. Second off Marty is 22 and is arguably already our best defensemen. He is only a -2. Schultz jr is 11x worse than Marty's plus minus. Marincin also teared it up at the world championship and was clearly Slovakia's best defensemen over there. Why not trade Schultz or Klefbom instead? We've traded proven NHL players for potential in the past and how did that work?

I don't think there can be much debate that Marincin was the Oil's steadiest D man whilst he was with the big club.

I find it interesting that the Oil have never pumped Marincin's tires much. Prior to his call up here was no suggestion from the Oil that this guy is ready to contribute in a big way. They talked about Klefblom more than they did about Marincin (and still do). Marincin is never mentioned as one of the "core" players they don't want to part with.

I find it all rather interesting.

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#25 BlazingSaitls
May 23 2014, 12:38PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

Blessed are those who believe, yet have not seen. Every one of us, a fine example of that hope. We all have/required faith our heart will beat again and again/allow us this day, no?

I do take issue with you calling our Oilers, not a real hockey club though...

I cant believe im even commenting on this tripe but the bible troll got me to bite again.

There is no crying in baseball there is no bible in hockey.

Players who win the cup dont mob the camera and thank Jesus for the Cup.

Go comment on the NBA boards, MTV music awards boards, BET awards if you want your biblical thoughts stroked.

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#26 Quicksilver ballet
May 23 2014, 10:21AM
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Lowe Expectations wrote:

You have way too much time on your hands.

Not as much as I'd like. Who would keep heathens like Zarny and yourself in line?

Unfortunately this is it for my "on the line" fun for today.

Happy weekend all. You keep submitting, and i'll keep correcting you guys. As time permits ofcourse.

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#27 Spoils
May 23 2014, 10:29AM
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@oilbaron

i look at the Jack Johnson trade and I think we are OK holding on and developing all of our young D prospects because if we end up with some extra D they will make great trade bait.

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#28 Pinto
May 23 2014, 09:35AM
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Lochenzo wrote:

Hey LT,

Let's say that the Oilers acquire both Phaneuf and Clarkson, then use their last compliance buyout on Clarkson. Is there anything in the rules to prevent the Clarkson compliance buyout? That compliance buyout would have value under this circumstance, and assuming Katz is ok spending the money.

Yes there is a rule against any new contracts being used as compliance buyouts. If we bought out Clarkson we would not be able to resign him and it would count towards the cap at the half dollars double years rule. Clarkson was signed last year, thus is not eligible.

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#29 Spoils
May 23 2014, 10:29AM
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trading picks or assets has to be for pieces that will still work in 4 years when our D comes online.

(I'm one of those guys who has embraced the rebuild. I am putting a stake in the ground and saying let's build our team around the duo of Hall and Nuge, and the team D of Nurse, Kelfbom, Ekblad, and Schultz.)

so - Neal and Stastny are young enough to fit that.

that said, if we are just buying someone - I think Katz owes this city the spend

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#30 oilerjed
May 23 2014, 11:42AM
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Spoils wrote:

trading picks or assets has to be for pieces that will still work in 4 years when our D comes online.

(I'm one of those guys who has embraced the rebuild. I am putting a stake in the ground and saying let's build our team around the duo of Hall and Nuge, and the team D of Nurse, Kelfbom, Ekblad, and Schultz.)

so - Neal and Stastny are young enough to fit that.

that said, if we are just buying someone - I think Katz owes this city the spend

Why build a team around guys with potential??? Remember when Shultz was the Dman of our future. After two years that is far from certain. The same can be said for the others you mentioned.

Id like us to make a play for the #1 pick from Florida while maintaining the #3 as well. Throw in next years first rounder and make it happen. Yeah yeah, I know its the McDavid-Eichel sweepstakes, after those two lucky winners what`s left to wait for next year. Its time to roll the dice with something other then draft picks. Get two quality players this year that will hopefully fill some holes in 1-3 years and move on from this rebuild. Get some vets in here to teach and win.

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#31 camdog
May 23 2014, 03:25PM
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@BLAKPOO

The Oilers rebuild is so bad that we now have a glut of young, potential d-man in the system and not enough spots to bring them up right and teach them. Shultz and Marancin are kids. If we bring in Klefbomb, and then eventually Nurse, that's 4 kids in the top 6. There just isn't room to bring them all along.

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#32 sizzay
May 23 2014, 10:36AM
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If you acquire Spezza, you make sure that 1st that they would likely want is conditional.

2015 1st conditional on him signing an extension. If he bolts for free agency, it becomes a second and third round pick. SOmething along those lines anyway.

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#33 Fish
May 23 2014, 11:00AM
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I wouldn't give up a lot for many of the those players. The reason being that the Oilers are a team in flux. Yes, we sucked last year. Yes we still suck now. Yes, we're young. Yes, we're small. But we have gone through a heck of a lot to have talent that will be a competitive team with a solid core. Even if we make these sorts of deals we will still suck next year. Mortgaging off part of the future by selling assets painfully acquired via failure to secure sub par contracts from aging players who most likely have warts won't turn us into a contender but will hurt us 4 years from now when we're looking for a cup. And, having a deep stable of prospects bubbling under is key to sustained success. It allows us to develop patiently and not rush players to fill holes like we do now. If we start to empty the prospect pool now for players retiring or being bought out down the road we're screwed and it was all for not. Plus, those cap dollars are going to become super valuable sooner than we think.

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#34 oilerjed
May 23 2014, 11:28AM
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After reading through the comments it seems clear there are two camps: 1)dont mortgage the future 2)WIN NOW DAMN IT!

The successful teams somehow find a way to manage to pull off a middle ground between the two. That being said having talented prospects that dont have anyone to be mentored by are at a massive disadvantage. Whether they turn into stellar pros depends alot on who is showing them how to play\train to be effective in the pros. Nurse,Klefbom, Ekblad(if drafted)etc.. may be great in the future but not without help. No magic will make them that way just because a scout say so or we are forced to rely on them. Quality veterans are needed, sorry Ference but I dont think you fit this bill. Established 1/2 Dmen are the only thing we should be considering to train our future studs.

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#35 Zarny
May 23 2014, 11:53AM
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@oilerjed

I don't look at it as don't mortgage the future versus win now.

The issue is simply get better.

After drafting Hall, Tambellini literally did nothing to make the team better. He did nothing but acquire fringe players to tread water at the bottom of the league while waiting for draft picks. That's not a plan.

There seems to be an assumption by some that waiting will bring inevitable success. Because of course there have never been 3rd overall draft picks like Huberdeau & Gudbranson or promising young D like Myers who didn't quite meet expectations. It's misguided.

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#36 oilerjed
May 23 2014, 12:59PM
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@Spaceman Spiff

If Stall is what we can get then lets do it! Gagner plus next year’s first-rounder sounds fine to me.

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#37 Quicksilver ballet
May 23 2014, 06:15PM
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I'd take Spezza, if only for a year. It differs a sizeable commitment for the time being.

Could probably get him on the cheap since he's fallen into that rental category now. Gagner + or a version thereof. If Spezza walks, the Oil have 7'ish of flexibility to deal with. Addition by subtraction has an upside.

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#38 Mike Krushelnyski
May 23 2014, 09:16AM
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Re moving Marincin for veteran help: hell yes.

Marincin looks like a nice player, but he has the bad fortune of coming up at the same time as Nurse and Klefbom, who look like similar, but superior players.

I'd do Marincin + for Phaneuf in a heartbeat.

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#39 Racki
May 23 2014, 09:57AM
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Mike Krushelnyski wrote:

Re moving Marincin for veteran help: hell yes.

Marincin looks like a nice player, but he has the bad fortune of coming up at the same time as Nurse and Klefbom, who look like similar, but superior players.

I'd do Marincin + for Phaneuf in a heartbeat.

I'll take my thumbs down to say I would do that trade too. People think they are being wise to say "why mortgage the future..". This isn't a dumb thing to say, however, Phaneuf still has several good years. He is also an INVESTMENT in the future because he lets you shelter your young D like they should be. The Oilers could lose a pretty good D man in Marincin, for sure, but they are getting back several years of an already quite good one in return. No maybes here.

I don't think Marincin is necessarily inferior to nurse or Klefbom.. Just saying I'd give up one of the young D to land a big minute guy. It may need to be done.

If Marincin, Klefbom or Nurse can be the big piece that gets this team a #1 D or big 2 way c, I welcome it.

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#40 Will
May 23 2014, 10:12AM
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I know there aren't a ton of options to help at defence, however that 7 mill forever is a pretty scary contract for a guy whose coming into the wrong side of 30. That could very quickly become an untradable anchor.

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#41 ubermiguel
May 23 2014, 10:25AM
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Will wrote:

I know there aren't a ton of options to help at defence, however that 7 mill forever is a pretty scary contract for a guy whose coming into the wrong side of 30. That could very quickly become an untradable anchor.

It's not an ideal contract but we're going to have to overpay on the UFA market too. I'll take Phaneuf as an anchor versus Gagner or Horcoff (who MacT actaully managed to off-load). I'm just worried he's lockerroom poision.

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#42 Towersofdub
May 23 2014, 10:51AM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

We should be mindful, that an amateur (Noah) built the ark. Experts built the Titanic.

Oilers = Titanic, they do think of themselves as hockey experts, no?

Zarny, Jason Spezza, 6'3" and 225lbs. Would he be included in that exclusive feared behemoth club you mentioned?

We should be more mindful that the story of the Noah and the Arc is a made up fairy tale that didn't actually happen, whereas the Titanic was real, was actually built, did actually sail, and wouldn't have sunk had it not been sailed into an iceberg.

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#43 madjam
May 23 2014, 09:09AM
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first things first . I think oilers going to deal Yakupov to Florida for first round flip of picks with Florida and hopefully we also get a second or 3rd rounder in the deal somehow . I believe we will draft Ekblad with that pick . That should free up one of our other young defencemen for a further trade . Avoid long term diminishing contracts . spezza has only one year left and if it does not work out can be dealt at a reasonable turn . Neal's contract length not to bad as is Umberger's . do not care for Umberger , however .

I see on hockey buzz , Flames contemplating an offer sheet for O'Reilly from Colorado . Should we not be targeting him as well ?

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#44 Randaman
May 23 2014, 05:48PM
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madjam wrote:

Remember R.Murray whom we passed up to go after Yak ? How unanimous was that decision ? Is Ekblad not probably better than him coming out of Junior ? We went for defence last year , and I believe we will try same this year with MacT. in charge , and not TAMs . Time to build from backend ? Just where does Yak fit in on top 3 , seems like the odd man out .

I will not be surprised if this swap takes place .

The only way I make this type of deal is if we retain #3 and get Florida's pick as well. Yak, Gagner & ?? Would be a no brainier to have the opportunity to draft Bennett #1 and take Ekblad or Drasssaiti #3. If Ekblad is your man then Marcinin or Klefbom become expendable but keeping the #3 pick is nonnegotiable.

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#45 @kahmad92
May 23 2014, 09:44AM
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Lochenzo wrote:

Hey LT,

Let's say that the Oilers acquire both Phaneuf and Clarkson, then use their last compliance buyout on Clarkson. Is there anything in the rules to prevent the Clarkson compliance buyout? That compliance buyout would have value under this circumstance, and assuming Katz is ok spending the money.

Compliance buyouts can only be used on players signed before the lockout.

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#46 Death Metal Nightmare
May 23 2014, 10:26AM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

We should be mindful, that an amateur (Noah) built the ark. Experts built the Titanic.

Oilers = Titanic, they do think of themselves as hockey experts, no?

Zarny, Jason Spezza, 6'3" and 225lbs. Would he be included in that exclusive feared behemoth club you mentioned?

you do realize that hitting an iceberg probably isnt good for any ship regardless of who built it?

the metaphor is trying to be far too clever.

"we should be mindful, something something bad examples - I DISTRUST THE MANAGEMENT"

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#47 Zarny
May 23 2014, 10:42AM
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MacT has 2 advantages: cap dollars and cheap assets (Klefbom/Marincin etc).

It's comical to read comments about how great Nurse, Klefbom and Marincin are and then project one of them to languish as a bottom pair D for the next 5 years.

They all play the left side and only 2 can play in the top 4. If they are all top pair or top 4 talents it is terrible asset management to pencil one in long term as a 5/6 D. Especially with the glut of D prospects like Musil, Simpson and Gernat who may not have as high a ceiling but certainly project to be 5/6 D in 2-3 years.

So yes, absolutely MacT should look at moving one of Klefbom, Marincin or Nurse this summer.

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#48 Racki
May 23 2014, 10:54AM
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madjam wrote:

If your talking about the next Pronger , as some feel Ekblad will be , then that is reasonable , if not small compensation to obtain that pick would you not agree ? Depends on what value you feel Ekblad would be . On the flip side , would you as Florida make that deal with just Yakupov and our third pick ? I'm not 100% sold Yak or Oilers copacetic with one another , maybe you are .

I get you now. But the problem is you and I don't know if Ekblad is the next Pronger (probably isn't, because even the scouts aren't saying that right now) and we also don't know yakupov I'd a bust. I actually don't think he is at all. I would definitely move him, but that would be the wrong deal.

I think Florida would do it if they didn't have a major need for defense. Because of that.. Well, less of a guarantee but I think they still would jump at that.

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#49 OilClog
May 23 2014, 10:56AM
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Phanuef and Spezza added to this team would make an incredible difference, these are the big catches. We can afford both, offer both top minutes with top linemates.

Could you imagine the Nuge playing 2nd's!! Oh man.

Phaneuf has his warts but after a few checks we will all fall in love with him.

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#50 Fish
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The only player on the list I would consider is Neal. However, I wonder how good he looks when he's not playing with one of the two most dominate offensive players in the game. Kunitz is not an allstar without Crosby, I wonder what Neal does away from Malkin?

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