NHL DRAFT TALK WITH KYLE WOODLIEF

Jason Gregor
May 28 2014 12:26PM

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Kyle Woodlief is the chief scout and publisher of the Red Line Report. He is a former NHL scout and has been involved in the draft for years. The Red Line Report has been a very good source for the draft in the past, and I caught up with Woodlief to get his thoughts on the Memorial Cup, the Edmonton Oil Kings and the top centres in this year's draft class; Sam Bennett, Sam Reinhart and Leon Draisaitl.

My thoughts are in italics.

Gregor: Does the Memorial Cup impact the rankings very much?

Woodlief: Slightly, not that much. Guys like Robbie Fabbri, Dysin Mayo and Aaron Irving, there were a few prospects like every year, but I don't think Fabbri moves more than a spot from where he had been on our list, Mayo may move up a couple of spots and Irving might move down a few spots.

Gregor: Looking at Mayo and Irving, who do you have ranked higher and why?

Woodlief: We have Irving higher. After the first half of the season he had, right into January, was in our first round. The typical scenario for first year players in the WHL is they take a few months to get comfortable. He was the opposite. He came in and played well offensively in the first four months, but then it seemed like the coaching staff started sheltering his offensive minutes down the stretch, and he didn't produce much offensively, where as Mayo came on down the stretch. Irving was a ways ahead of him at the top of the stretch in February and March, and Mayo did close the gap, but long-term I think Irving still has more upside to his game.

Gregor: What do you like about Irving's game more than Mayo?

Woodlief: Irving is more physically active in his own end and he's a really good two-way defender. He can be part of a shut down pairing. Mayo, at this point, is more of a puck moving, finesse defender.

***Mayo was a top-four D-man for the Oil Kings throughout the playoffs, while Irving was in the 3rd pairing and didn't play nearly as much. Steve Hamilton didn't shelter Irving offensively as much as it was a case of Mayo playing better in the second half. They are different types of players, and while Irving is heavier and more aggressive, Mayo is a good skater and he thinks the game very well. It will be interesting to see which one becomes a better NHLer. I'm not as sure as Woodlief that it will be Irving.**

Gregor: Edgars Kulda was passed over last year but is ranked this year. When you are ranking players, how much does that extra year impact them?

Woodlief: Every year it seems we have more and more second and third year draft eligible players. In this particular draft year, because it is a weak year, I'm seeing on our list about 15-20% higher second and third year eligibles than there normally would be. We rank about 350 players during the course of the season and generally speaking you have about 30-35 players who are older, but this year there is about 50 of those types of players because it is a weaker draft year. You are looking for talent anywhere you can find it and guys like Kulda pop up.

The same thing happened to Kulda last year. He had a strong playoff for Edmonton, and we put him on our rankings late. I don't think we had him on our rankings all year, and then finally in April we put him on. He had a good regular season, but he came up really big in the playoffs. I'd be very surprised if he goes undrafted this year.

***He was ranked as a 4th or 5th rounder before the Memorial Cup. He might sneak into the 3rd round, but usually there isn't much of a difference between a 3rd rounder and a 4th or 5th. A lot of it will depend on how the player matures and what opportunity he is given within his NHL organization.***

Gregor: A player could have a great month or six weeks in the playoffs. Does that impact the rankings because many people value the playoffs more than the regular season?

Woodlief: You try not to get sucked in. The bottom line is it is a long grind in an NHL season, it is 80 games plus playoffs, so you want guys who can do it consistently over the course of a long season. Players in junior who aren't getting in done in the regular season,but rev it up for a couple of weeks at playoff time...It is good, it will get them on the list, and in some cases move players value up the board, but, again, you are still looking for that player who has done it over the long haul.

TOP END CENTRES...

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Gregor: Bennett, Reinhart, Draisaitl and Nylander are the best centres in the draft in most people's rankings. Where do you rank them from first to fourth and is there a significant drop at any point?

Woodlief: The top four grouping is Bennett, Ekblad, Reinhart and Draisaitl. Those are the top four on the board and it wouldn't surprise us if they went in any order. I tend to think that the top two players off the board will be Bennett and Ekblad, in which ever order you care to mention. I think just because of the fact that Edmonton has drafted a lot of really good players, but similar style players, who are all kind of like  Reinhart in some respect, I think if Edmonton sat still at number three and were looking for a player to take they'd be a little bit better off taking a big centre who could give you some size and strength down the middle in Draisaitl.

**Interesting that he didn't mention Nylander. I've read some reports that Florida really likes him, but I'd be shocked if they took him 1st overall. Maybe they trade down knowing they could get him later, but part of me feels the Nylander talk is a bit of a smokescreen.**

Gregor: If the rankings were out of 100, how close are Bennett, Reinhart and Draisaitl?

Woodlief: There is not a big gap at all. We have Bennett at #1 at Redline Report, because we've been really impressed with his heart and desire and that's put him over the top in our mind, but there is not a lot of a drop off from him to Reinhart and Draisaitl.

Gregor: I asked about the gap because you don't take size if the smaller player is clearly better. Are you suggesting the gap between the players is so small that in this case size would be the better option for Edmonton?

Woodlief: That would be take on the situation. They could use a big, strong centre down the middle more than they can use another player similar to what they have. I honestly think Reinhart projects better on the wing in the pros. I think he is more of a goal scorer than a play maker. He does both, don't get me wrong, but I think you can put him on the wing in the NHL with a good centre who can get him the puck he will fill up the net.

***As you know I completely agree with Woodlief. The Oilers don't need more of the same. They have an abundance of small, skilled players, so if it comes down to Reinhart and Draisaitl I take Draisaitl all day. The interesting decision would be if Ekblad and Draisaitl are both available at #3. If Ekblad becomes this year's Seth Jones and drops a few spots, I'd lean towards taking him over Draisaitl, but it would still be a tough decision. You need skilled size down the middle to win, especially in the western conference, but it would be hard to pass on Ekblad.**

Gregor: Which player do you think will go higher at the draft than people expect?

Woodlief: The one guy we really like at Redline Report over the course of the second half of the year is down in Calgary, big defenceman named Travis Sanheim. In the first half of the season in October to December you wouldn't have even noticed him, but all of a sudden in January he started taking off and he has just gotten better and better.

**Sanheim is 6' 3" and 195 pounds. He has been ranked as a late first rounder thus far, but with very few elite D-men in this year's class, a team between 15-25 might grab him if they need defensive depth.**

WRAP UP

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The good news for Oilers fans is that the Oilers biggest organizational needs are available with the 3rd pick. This team needs a right shot D-man and help at centre. In 2012, I wrote that I would have taken Alex Galchenyuk, because this team needed a big centre, and two years later I feel the same way. I'd pick Draisaitl, because I don't see Ekblad dropping to #3, but if he does then the Oilers could get a franchise right-shot D-man.

The Oilers should walk out of Philadelphia with either a big, skilled centre or an elite defender.

LAST CHANCE...

For the fourth consecutive year we are doing our Ultimate Sports Fan package in support of charity. On June 7th I am riding in the 190km MS Bike Tour, and I've come up with a pretty good package for the diehard sports fan.

How it works is you make a $100 donation and you get 1 entry. If you make a $200 donation you get two entries.

We only take 100 entries and we will raise $10,000 for MS.  The draw is Tuesday, June 3rd, and we only have 20 entries left.

This year's winner will get the following: The final package will be value at over $5,000.00

  1. A pair of tickets to the Oilers home opener in October.
  2. A pair of Edmonton Eskimos season tickets in the lower bowl.
  3. A signed, game used Ryan Nugent-Hopkins stick.
  4. 20 tickets to the Oil Kings opening night game and banner raising night. Also, you will get an Oil King of your choice to come to your backyard rink or minor hockey practice for an hour. ( Between November 1st and December 15th.)
  5. A pair of Edmonton Rush season tickets.
  6. Two VIP floor seats to MFC 41 on October 3rd. That includes dinner before the fights, and you will also get to watch the prelims at ringside with the MFC broadcast team.
  7. The Nation's own Jason Strudwick and one of his former NHL friends will play a game with your Men's League team next season. Struds will bring the beer, a few good stories and some shootout moves.
  8. Four infield passes to the Canadian Derby on Saturday August 16th.
  9. Pizza for a year (1 pizza a week) from Papa Johns Pizza. When you want to watch the big games Papa Johns will ensure you have great pizza.

**Edit...THANK YOU. We sold out yesterday, it took less than a week. Awesome.***

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#52 Zarny
May 28 2014, 06:00PM
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@TigerUnderGlass

Building the best team in hockey means matching up against every style. The Oilers match up against one. To win the Western Conference you have to be able to score and defend against highly skilled players 6'1-6'4" 205-230 lbs. The Oilers can do neither.

The East knows how to really build a roster lol?

Since the shootout was adopted in 2005-06 the West's record against the East was 818-524-189 heading into last season. The trend didn't change in 2013-14. Since the last lockout the West is 5-3 in Stanley Cup finals. Doesn't look like that trend is going to change this year either.

If LA wins the Cup this year it's 4 of the last 5 with Chi. The other was Bos lol. It's not a coincidence both have every kind of player. The Oilers have 1.

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#54 Vinotintazo
May 28 2014, 02:16PM
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My list:

-Ekblad -Draisaitl -Bennett

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#55 RexHolez
May 28 2014, 02:30PM
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@pkam

I am. But what else is there as an oiler fan?

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#56 TigerUnderGlass
May 28 2014, 02:43PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

It would be tough, but I'd still lean towards Draisaitl. I love his high end skill and size. Bennett is competitve and better two-way than Draisaitl, but he has narrow shoulders so it is unlikely he will get to 200 pounds. I think in the West you need one of your top-two centres to be skilled and at least 205-210 pounds.

Weird that half of the teams remaining in the playoffs do not meet that criteria.

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#57 TigerUnderGlass
May 28 2014, 04:26PM
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Zarny wrote:

And both NYR and Mtl will likely get pulverized against LA or Chi.

It's been 5 years since Detroit really competed in the West; and when they did they had guys like Franzen doing work. Zetterberg was also a horse on the puck, Datsyuk a perennial Selke nominee and they had a 7 time Norris winner on the blueline with Lidstrom.

Gregor set out some very specific criteria that must be met to contend. You don't get to defend it by saying "Detroit was good for other reasons", because that is exactly my point.

I agree that the winner of the west likely wins the cup because they are better teams. I don't claim size isn't a factor. I'm claiming that having at least one top 2 center weighing a minimum amount is not a requirement.

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#59 VK63
May 28 2014, 12:34PM
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I found it interesting that he projects Sam Reinhart as a winger because he shoots well.

Not a conventional view considering Sam is often applauded for his sonar vision and on ice awareness in regards to distributing the puck…. i.e.. Centerman instincts.

In the end though… it shows that Woodlief thinks with his own brain rather than redistribute the conventional take as many.. or MOST of the draft rags do.

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#60 RexHolez
May 28 2014, 02:21PM
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Is there a picture of these 3 centres standing beside each other? I wanna see this "size" Draisitl has over the other 2

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#61 BLAKPOO
May 28 2014, 08:02PM
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OilersDynasty wrote:

Why not BOTH Ekblad and Draisaitl. Gagner+ to NYI for Bailey+ and 5th pick

Gagner+ .. hilarious.

1. Steal underpants

2. ????

3. Profit!

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#62 TigerUnderGlass
May 28 2014, 02:36PM
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sizzay wrote:

Also meant to put he doesn't run around hitting but he does play the body. His ability to shield others off the puck is quite good.. aka uses his size effectively.

Soooo, big guy, soso skater, does hit but uses his size well.

Who is Dustin Penner?

Fans here loved that guy, so what could go wrong?

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#63 TigerUnderGlass
May 28 2014, 02:52PM
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Dman09 wrote:

That is exactly what I was thinking.

But if you have a line of Perron-Penner type-Yakupov that might not be a bad thing. Yak and Perron can get pretty fiesty and a calming force at center might be a good complement.

Bennet however sounds like he plays a 6'3" game even though hes not and let face it look at the impact Perron had this season. That kind of impact can't be overlooked.

Yeah, I agree. I was a fan of Penner. I wasn't actually trying say anything bad about the player type, I was just making a joke about how Edmonton's fan base tends to feel about these guys.

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#64 Cody anderson
May 28 2014, 10:10PM
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OilersDynasty wrote:

Why not BOTH Ekblad and Draisaitl. Gagner+ to NYI for Bailey+ and 5th pick

LOL, that would be awesome.....Now all we have to do is feed The NYI GM the date rape drug before the draft so we can say he agreed to this trade.

Pretty sure if we were willing to eat 1/2 of Gagner's salary and throw in all of our draft picks except #3 they still wouldn't give us the 5th even without Bailey

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#65 Fasteddy
May 28 2014, 11:13PM
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@Jason Gregor

For what it's worth Reinhart took virtually every important d-zone faceoff, and killed penalties.....hardly what I'd consider a weak defensive player. I find it amusing that everyone wants to hope that the big guys can turn into Eric Lindros......they almost never do. Why not take the best HOCKEY player?! Perhaps the WHL Player of the Year.......

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#66 Quicksilver ballet
May 28 2014, 11:54PM
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So the compete level wins this ratings battle. Proving size isn't everything. What good is size if its not accompanied by skill speed mean streak and compete.

Ekblad or Bennett, or bust.

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#68 Nick
May 29 2014, 09:35AM
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TigerUnderGlass wrote:

The proper question is, "how is having a terrible team working out for the Oilers?"

Unless you honestly believe giving Sam Gagner 2 inches and 10 pounds would have saved the season.

how has 2 small centers worked out for Detroit for the last decade?

They are terrible because they have no skilled size. Every good team has big, strong forwards who can score and are hard to defend. Most have it down the middle. If Gagner was bigger and stronger he'd be harder to knock off the puck, and he likely could defend better.

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#69 Zarny
May 29 2014, 10:21AM
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oilabroad wrote:

I have to disagree with this, Edmonton needs to become more difficult to play against, not just add bigger pylons... Big soft Euro who doesn't play a 2 way game doesn't solve a lot of this teams problems

What an absolutely ridiculous comment.

There is nothing pylon-ish about Kopitar, Carter, Toews, Handzus, Getzlaf, Thornton, Backes, Stastny etc.

Absolutely nothing.

Mr. Gregor is talking about adding a big, skilled C that is the NHL equivalent of Shaquille O'Neal and you drivel about Bill Wellington.

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#70 Dman09
May 28 2014, 12:55PM
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Ed in Edmonton wrote:

Only if the objective is to go all in for McDavid.

You'd end up there with Grebs, Belov, and Larsen anyway, might as well get the kids developing. Nurse is too good of juniors and can't go to the AHL and neither can Ekblad.

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#71 Joe
May 28 2014, 01:29PM
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@Oilfan69

Hockey news mock drafts are weak, not many put much weight into anything they say about the draft.

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#72 TigerUnderGlass
May 28 2014, 11:25PM
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@Zarny

I feel like you missed the word "if" in my comment because you just spent a lot of effort telling me how wrong I was for something I never said.

That, or "if" does not mean what you think it means.

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#73 TigerUnderGlass
May 28 2014, 11:28PM
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Jordan Nugent-Hallkins wrote:

How's having two small centers working out for the Oilers?

The proper question is, "how is having a terrible team working out for the Oilers?"

Unless you honestly believe giving Sam Gagner 2 inches and 10 pounds would have saved the season.

how has 2 small centers worked out for Detroit for the last decade?

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#75 Zarny
May 29 2014, 10:17AM
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@TigerUnderGlass

Here's the thing; you argue the exception to the rule.

Bos did it with 2 smaller C; of course one was a Selke winner. They also had 6'4" 220 lbs Lucic and 6'2" 220 lbs Horton on W and a 6'9" 255 lbs freak on D who happens to be a Norris winner.

Det also did it with 2 sub-200 lbs C. Again, Datsyuk just happens to be a Selke winner and perennial nominee and Zetterberg was an absolute horse on the puck. They also had a 7 time Norris winner on the blueline and a 6'4" 220 lbs Franzen squatting in front of the net. Det also hasn't done squat over the last 5 years as the number of big C in the West proliferated.

You're right though, it isn't an absolute to have 1 of your 2 top C be big. There isn't one blueprint to building a Stanley Cup winning team. I get that point and I agree.

It isn't a coincidence however that Bos and Det are the exception. Since the previous lockout the other SC winners are Carolina (Staal), Anaheim (Getzlaf), Pittsburgh (Malkin & Staal) Chicago (Toews), LA (Kopitar & Perry), Chicago (Toews) and this year it will likely be LA or Chicago again. The year before the lockout was TB who had Lecavlier.

I suspect Mr. Gregor focuses on adding size at C because it makes sense. That's the key F position and the position where Divisional and Conference rivals are stacked with big, skilled players.

If the Oilers had 2 behemoth W like Lucic or Horton they probably could do with 2 smaller C if one was a nominee for best defensive forward in the league. They don't. They have Hall, Eberle, Yakupov, Perron, Nuge and Gagner. Every one of them is average or smaller. So if you are going to add size it's logical to match up positionally against Getzlaf, Kopitar, Thornton, Backes, Toews etc.

The comments by some (not you) about adding big pylons are downright ludicrous.

There is nothing pylon-ish about Getzlaf, Kopitar, Thornton etc. They are as skilled or more as any player on the Oiler's roster but also have the advantage of size and reach.

Which seems to be something the parrots of "size doesn't matter" don't understand. I can only assume they've never actually played hockey and had to lean against a skilled player who has a 3" and 20 lbs advantage on you and can put the puck 7 ft away simply by extending their arms. It matters. A lot.

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#77 Peter
May 29 2014, 05:07PM
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TigerUnderGlass wrote:

You were awfully condescending about Montreal and Eller earlier.

Did you have a snappy response for me or are you still deciding which fallacious argument you will attribute to me?

What a whiner. I'm amazed Gregor even responds to your drivel. All you do is whine and complain, and now you accuse someone of being condescending. Shut up please.

I noticed the Nation got rid of DSF...I nominate getting rid of you next. Waste of reader space.

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#78 jonny94
May 28 2014, 12:41PM
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Gregor who would you lean towards if Bennett and Draisaitl were available?

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#79 madjam
May 28 2014, 01:37PM
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There is a strong case/argument for Draisaitl going first overall to be honest . Ekblad and Draisaitl might be first two chosen . Then who do we choose ? Maybe exposing Oilers interest in Draisaitl might come back to haunt them .

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#80 Lochenzo
May 28 2014, 03:20PM
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TigerUnderGlass wrote:

Very much not the point of my comment,but since you brought it up, no I don't.

Don't forget that MacTavish has admitted to making mistakes using Penner and that Penner was a good player.

Either way, my comment was more about the Oilers fan base than either player. Edmonton fans seem to have issues with bigger players that don't hit much because the don't appear to "have as much try" as little guys with their legs pumping hard.

Little guy with legs pumping hard...like Tie Domi. Great if the guy only plays 10 minutes a game. You can't do that if you play bigger minutes. Chris Pronger had a big, long efficient stride and he could play 30 minutes a game. Compare that to PK Subban who was running around (a lot more disciplined game than in past years, mind you) against the Bruins and now has nothing left in the tank. The Rangers are torching him.

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#81 OilersDynasty
May 28 2014, 06:39PM
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Why not BOTH Ekblad and Draisaitl. Gagner+ to NYI for Bailey+ and 5th pick

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#82 cp119
May 28 2014, 06:39PM
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@Jason Gregor

I wasn't implying he was out of shape. Only asking a question I thought you may have an answer for, seeing you have spoken with people more in the know than me.

Why so defensive?

How many times have you said "but he doesn't play big" or "he needs to be more physical" of other players?

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#83 Jordan Nugent-Hallkins
May 28 2014, 10:53PM
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TigerUnderGlass wrote:

Gregor set out some very specific criteria that must be met to contend. You don't get to defend it by saying "Detroit was good for other reasons", because that is exactly my point.

I agree that the winner of the west likely wins the cup because they are better teams. I don't claim size isn't a factor. I'm claiming that having at least one top 2 center weighing a minimum amount is not a requirement.

How's having two small centers working out for the Oilers?

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#84 Zarny
May 29 2014, 09:35AM
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Great interview. Two quotes stood out:

1)"because it is a weak year"

2)"There is not a big gap at all"

The top 4 could go in any order. Every player in this draft has holes in their game.

The top 4 player that seems to benefit the Oilers the least is Reinhart; too much like Nuge.

Otherwise the Oilers need a D like Ekblad, a top 6 F with the intensity of Bennett and a big C like Draisaitl. All will do. None are particularly better than the other. Just different.

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#85 Ed in Edmonton
May 28 2014, 12:46PM
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The man also states the top 4 could go in almost any order. So if both Eckbald and Draisaitl are both alvailable, who's the guy? The Oil D has been a mess for a hockey generation but they seem now seem to have 3 promising LHS defencemen (Marincin, Klefblom, Nurse).

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#86 Oilfan69
May 28 2014, 01:25PM
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@sizzay

I was tooling around on the THN site and found this.

http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/the-whls-next-star-is-still-14-years-old/

The Western League drafts players one year earlier than its counterparts in Ontario and Quebec, making projections harder. But this edition’s top pick comes in at nearly 6-foot-3 and 177 pounds already – and he doesn’t turn 15 until next month.

OMG 6 foot 3 177 at 14 that kid is a horse!

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#87 John
May 28 2014, 01:30PM
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If Phoenix is willing to trade H. Samuelson for the Oilers 1st round pick this year do you make that trade? I'd be tempted. Gives them size down the middle and a known player from the Oil Kings org. Could potentially speed up the building as well with him starting the year in OKC and availability to go up and down right away. If Ekblad still there at 3 maybe keep the pick.

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#88 bILL
May 28 2014, 01:57PM
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Jeffff wrote:

There is a strong case/argument that madam is insane.

Draisaitl has been ranked #4 -#7 in respectable mock drafts.

Madjam doesn't actaully believe what he writes. He just likes to rattle chains and induce people to discuss his ideas.....Although, I don't think this ever actually happens. Have to give him an A for effort though.

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#89 oilerjed
May 28 2014, 02:32PM
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pkam wrote:

I believe the top 2 centers of the Boston Bruins are both under 200 lbs, and the top 2 centers of the Carolina Hurricanes are both over 200 lbs.

I am fine if Bennett can turn into a Patrice Bergeron style player even if he is less than 200 lb.

And both are are in the Eastern conference where you are not goingup against guys 1/3 your size. Boston has dominated the East for 3-5 years now because outside of those centers they have massive quanties of skilled meat.

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#90 pkam
May 28 2014, 02:44PM
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RexHolez wrote:

I am. But what else is there as an oiler fan?

Take a break. Isn't that what you should do when you are tired?

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#91 Sketchy
May 28 2014, 02:44PM
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@Jason Gregor

How about Bennets D game?

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#92 tileguy
May 28 2014, 05:36PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

You don't draft a player just so another team can't have him. You draft a player that you like the best. The Oilers shouldn't care about the Flames.

Draisaitl is 18, his defensive game isn't great, but he, like most skilled players, will improve as he goes. Is Reinhart's defensive game that much better? Nope.

Just wondering if you believe that for yak and gagner?

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#93 Bsmart
May 28 2014, 09:54PM
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I think it is plausible that ekblad will be available at 3. I don't think buffalo takes a d and I think Florida is stuck on Bennett.

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#94 madjam
May 29 2014, 11:12AM
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Zarny wrote:

Great interview. Two quotes stood out:

1)"because it is a weak year"

2)"There is not a big gap at all"

The top 4 could go in any order. Every player in this draft has holes in their game.

The top 4 player that seems to benefit the Oilers the least is Reinhart; too much like Nuge.

Otherwise the Oilers need a D like Ekblad, a top 6 F with the intensity of Bennett and a big C like Draisaitl. All will do. None are particularly better than the other. Just different.

Not sure having two Hopkins type would be detrimental to our future - might even be the most advantageous . Do not agree with your assessment of Reinhart .

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#95 TigerUnderGlass
May 29 2014, 12:33PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

Lars Eller, who is 215 pounds and plays centre, isn't on Montreal's top two lines and leading their forwards in playoff scoring?

And FYI...Montreal is in the east. West plays different style, and is much bigger. Which is why my original point said in THE WEST.

Plekanec and Desharnais both play a lot more.

Eller lined up as the 4th line center last game.

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#97 Zarny
May 29 2014, 03:17PM
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madjam wrote:

Not sure having two Hopkins type would be detrimental to our future - might even be the most advantageous . Do not agree with your assessment of Reinhart .

I said the top 4 player that benefits the Oilers the least is Reinhart not that the Oilers don't benefit at all.

The Oilers top 6 F are too much of the same. Reinhart literally does nothing to change that. At least Bennett plays with intensity. Draisaitl offers a complimentary size difference. Reinhart gives you exactly what you already have with Nuge. That is the least beneficial to the Oilers.

Conversely, Draisaitl benefits Florida the least since they already have Barkov. Winning is always about the right mix of players.

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#98 TigerUnderGlass
May 29 2014, 04:21PM
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Jason Gregor wrote:

"NOBODY has ever said lets get a bunch of small guys. The issue is one of focus. I want to focus on good, you want to focus on big."

Go re-read the article. Read it very slow. Woodlief and other scouts say their is virtually NO DIFFERENCE in skill between the centres. The one difference Draisaitl has is size.

"Size is important. If things are equal or close you would lean to size." Stu MacGregor.

Draisaitl is not a bad player. He is rated as a top-four draft pick. You are the only one suggesting he is not good.

You do this every time we disagree. You are never willing to argue the point. Show me where I said Draisaitl is not good.

You just quoted me and then made some random argument that has nothing to do with the line you quoted. Context matters. Great points, too bad it's obvious to anyone who read my comments that I don't disagree with them.

I have NEVER said he shouldn't be picked. Multiple times on this very thread I have stated specifically that I have no idea who is the best or who should be drafted.

I disagree with your statement that a team cannot win unless one of their top 2 centers weighs at least 205 and I disagree that a player should be taken because he weighs more. That is all.

Knock down all the straw men you want, just let me know when you decide to address something actually said so I can join back in.

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#99 backup bob
May 28 2014, 06:20PM
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Will wrote:

I still don't think they can go wrong.

Ekblad if he's there. Draisaitl if not, Bennet if all three are gone.

The team is getting one of a right shooting franchise D who can quaterback a powerplay and has some size, a big centre who is hard on the puck, or a skilled centre who plays with an edge.

There is literally no bad option here.

I agree, the #3 pick should bring back a great player, unless the Oilers go with their "secret" draft list.

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#100 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
May 29 2014, 11:14AM
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Interesting to see, if Ekblad, Bennett, Draisaitl go as the top three, will Burke take Reinhart at 4th?

There is a Reinhart legacy in Calgary. But I think Burke might take Dal Collle, Vertanin, or Ritchie.

Or trade down knowing he can get one of these three.

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