THE GUESSING GAME

Robin Brownlee
June 18 2014 01:25PM

Craig MacTavish2

For my money, the last two weeks of June leading into the annual NHL Entry Draft and the free agent season are the most fun for fans, media types and armchair general managers alike. That holds especially true in a hockey hotbed like Edmonton. Here we are again.

Whether you're a jersey-wearing fan of the Oilers, a press pass-toting beat writer who lives in the dressing room and on the road with the team during the season or a blogger running advanced stats from afar, everybody has an opinion about what GM Craig MacTavish will or should do over the next few weeks.

Some opinions, of course, are more educated than others – be it about who MacTavish should select with the third pick at the podium in Philadelphia, who he should send away via trade, who he should acquire and what free agents best fill the many holes on his roster – but everybody has a take.

In the end, though, it's largely guesswork, even for those closest to the decision-makers, those who work the room, their sources and the phones gathering snippets of information here and there. Sometimes you put two and two together and get it exactly right. More often, you don't.

My guess, albeit much less educated after seven years away from the daily grind, after listening to MacTavish and trying to connect the dots is the next few weeks will be full of twists and turns for fans of the Oilers.

MY TAKES

My takes on some of the obvious topics . . .

Who to take with the third selection? I'm not alone in thinking MacTavish would do handstands if Aaron Ekblad, who is clearly the best defenseman in the draft, was available at No. 3. He won't be, of course. Next best is centre Leon Draisaitl. Duh! I see Sam Bennett and Sam Reinhart as more of what the Oilers have too much of already – smallish skill.

Will MacTavish consider trading the No. 3 pick for immediate help? Of course he will – he said so this week. We always get move-up/move-down rumors at this time of the off-season. They seldom amount to much. That said, Edmonton's selection will be up for grabs, especially if Ekblad and Draisaitl are gone when the Oilers pick. That doesn't mean MacTavish will get something done, but expect him to work the floor big-time if it does.

What does the No. 3 pick get the Oilers in a trade? Depends. If MacTavish swaps picks in the 10-20 slots, he can get a useful player as part of that deal to fill one of the four or five roster spots he talked about the other day, be it a defenseman or a forward. I keep thinking that can happen with Ron Hextall and the Philadelphia Flyers, who pick 17th.

What about the third pick straight up for a player? There's been a lot of buzz about the Winnipeg Jets and Evander Kane in that scenario. I'd do that deal for Kane, growing pains and all. I'd also do it for an established top-pairing defenseman, like Dion Phaneuf. I doubt the Toronto Maple Leafs would unless there was a sweetener.

While it's rare for a top-three pick to be traded, MacTavish's stated goal of looking to fill as many as five roster spots (including a puck-moving defenseman and a shutdown type) and his admission he's had "some fairly intriguing conversations at this point" about the third pick in an interview with Bob Stauffer on 630 CHED Tuesday speak for themselves.

INDICATIONS ARE . . .

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MacTavish won't get a proven top-pairing blueliner for spare parts. He won't be able to turn Sam Gagner and a secondary prospect into the minute-eating puck mover or a shutdown guy he covets. MacTavish said he isn't willing to dip into his core to get what he needs. He said he'd like to fill some holes by way of trade rather than relying on free agency.

So, if MacTavish won't touch his core and Gagner isn't worth much more than a bag of pucks right now, moving the No. 3 pick via straight trade or trade with a swap of picks comes into play. I'm not arguing that's the right move or the wrong move, I'm just saying everything points to that as a big bargaining chip.

As for free agents, the candidates we know: up front, Mikhail Grabovski would fit as a second-line centre. There's wingers Nikolai Kulemin and Daniel Winnik. I'd inquire about Brian Boyle as a third-line pivot. They'll get overpaid, especially to come to Edmonton. Lots of other possibilities, too, but I'm not going to print the phone book so I can say "I called it" if one of them ends up here.

That's my take. Yours?

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#51 madjam
June 18 2014, 03:59PM
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Who can we possibly get on the UFA market that will not be perceived as a reject that U.S. clubs did not want? Spezza another player that rejects all Canadian teams , and this is a growing concern for all Canadian markets as it is happening all to frequently .

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#52 Maurey
June 18 2014, 04:04PM
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@Will

I think and hope Boychuk will be an Oiler next season. He's a perfect fit. Sorry, there is no way Boychuk would cost Nurse. Boston is looking to unload salary and Boychuk's is $3.6M. He's in the final year of his contract, so they'll consider themselves lucky if they can get much at all in return. If they don't unload him, they will lose him for 3rd or 4th round picks at the trade deadline. The same goes for a few other players around the league like Scottie Upshall and Clarke MacArthur.

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#53 Zarny
June 18 2014, 04:04PM
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Will wrote:

History would say defensemen slide. And the ones that didn't probably should have. If Florida doesn't trade the pick and then also doesn't take him, I can't see Buffalo who is in desperate need of scoring pick him up.

Likely? no. Possible? definitely.

Yes, in general D slide so it's not impossible. However, to say there is a "good chance" Ekblad slides is silly.

Florida is heavily shopping the pick and every team that has expressed interest wants Ekblad. So if the pick gets traded say goodbye to Ekblad unless it's the Oilers moving up.

Tallon has stated Florida wants to win right away, and while there is no agreement on the best player in the draft there is an overwhelming consensus that Ekblad is the most NHL ready. According to Florida's Director of Scouting they are 95% certain who they will take.

Win now - NHL ready - buh bye Ekblad.

There is not a "good chance" Ekblad will slide; there is a remote chance. I hope he does because I think he's the best player available for the Oilers but wishful thinking doesn't make something a "good chance". It just makes it wishful thinking.

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#54 Zach93
June 18 2014, 04:05PM
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oprah sucks wrote:

i predict boychuk will be an oiler start of next season. kind of the defensive dman mact is looking for and fits the bill being from edmonton, wife and all! if i could trade 3rd overall pick i would( unless ekblad is around)specially if it means getting a proven second line center or top pairing dman. i got nothing against draisaitl i think hes a fantastic prospect. key word prospect. lets face it, how many germans have played into a top six forward in the nhl? how many have been drafted in the first round let alone top 5 or 10. maybe he is like a kopitar and makes it big comming from somewhere land but odds are stacked against it. unless he is the next sydney crosby of germany, will he ever live up to a top 6 forward? i'll take my chances on a proven, overpaid steady player. If i had no choice but to pick 3rd i would pick leon cause he fits the needs but this yrs draft is by far the scariest one in recent yrs.

Look at how many Slovenians there are in the nhl and then look at anze kopitar so LS has the potential to become a great player

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#55 Zach93
June 18 2014, 04:05PM
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oprah sucks wrote:

i predict boychuk will be an oiler start of next season. kind of the defensive dman mact is looking for and fits the bill being from edmonton, wife and all! if i could trade 3rd overall pick i would( unless ekblad is around)specially if it means getting a proven second line center or top pairing dman. i got nothing against draisaitl i think hes a fantastic prospect. key word prospect. lets face it, how many germans have played into a top six forward in the nhl? how many have been drafted in the first round let alone top 5 or 10. maybe he is like a kopitar and makes it big comming from somewhere land but odds are stacked against it. unless he is the next sydney crosby of germany, will he ever live up to a top 6 forward? i'll take my chances on a proven, overpaid steady player. If i had no choice but to pick 3rd i would pick leon cause he fits the needs but this yrs draft is by far the scariest one in recent yrs.

Look at how many Slovenians there are in the nhl and then look at anze kopitar so LS has the potential to become a great player

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#56 Jpinto
June 18 2014, 04:07PM
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@Will

If you think PK is not going to be making more than $7 Bills you are crazy and comparing what was a potential ufa contract to pk and his bridge deal coming off a elc makes no sense.

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#57 Maurey
June 18 2014, 04:08PM
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@Glacien

I concur. Setoguchi would be a great RW option. He shouldn't cost much more than $1.75m and he's from northern Alberta. He's got decent size and speed and some scoring touch. he could slot in at 3RW but play up and down the lineup (former 65pt player on Thorton, Marleau line). I think Setoguchi and Peter Mueller would be good 3rd & 4th line options and both would be cheap, allowing the Oilers to throw money at other players.

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#58 oilbaron
June 18 2014, 04:09PM
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I would not trade the #3 pick. There are other players and assets that we could trade for immediate help. I feel that we have a pretty good crop of promising defenceman with high trade value. pick one of Nurse, Klefbom or Marincin....thats the one you keep, the other two you package (along with a roster player) in a deal for a proven top 2 defenceman. I keep saying Mike Green, hes a right handed shot defenceman who plays between 22-25 minutes a night. He would bump petry down into the 2nd pairing and put Schultz into the 3rd. These are good spots for them to be playing, sheltered/Offensive zone starts for schultz and easier minutes for petry. I could see them excelling there and learning from Green at the same time. Green could use a change of scenery and being from Alberta i could see him approving this trade.----We would then OVERPAY for Paul Stastny, who cares how much it is. If we overpay to become a better team now then in the future more players will want to sign here later on when we are winning. He would look great between yak and perron. The rest.....whatever.

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#59 CalgaryOilBaron
June 18 2014, 04:11PM
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David Legwand at 2C Vernon Fiddler at 3LW David Moss at 3RW Ryan Reaves at 4RW Brooks Orpik at 3D Mark Fayne at 6D

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#60 Maurey
June 18 2014, 04:14PM
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I'm pushing the idea of signing BOS UFA G, Chad Johnson for cheap and using Fasth as a trade commodity to help fill other holes. Some sites I've read think he could be signed for $1.25M. Even if he's signed for 2.25 (slightly less than Scrivens) it would save $.65M. That could go toward a Markov or Niskanen or Grabovski (not a fan of Grabovski or Niskanen though). Johnson had an amazing year and might move on with Boston looking like they're going to push Svedberg into backup for Rask. Maybe Fasth could go there with 1 year left on his contract to ease Svedberg in.

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#61 Zarny
June 18 2014, 04:15PM
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Will wrote:

I don't see a lot of 30 year old, right shot defencemen who come cheap, have size, put up points, play physical, and were plus 35 being available for picks and parts around the league.

Hell we're debating taking Phaneuf's 7 mill for 7 year contract and giving up our second line centre + to do it.

You're right that it might not take Nurse, but a lot of teams can make a lot of offers for this guy. I'm high on Nurse, but the question remains, do you want the team to be better next year, or in five years?

Gets points? He was 74th in scoring for D last year with a career high of 23 pts. He doesn't put up points I'm afraid and his +/- is largely a function of the team.

I like Boychuk but you're talking about 2nd pairing D who only has 5 years NHL experience at 30 y/o because he played 2 extra years of Jr and 5 years in the AHL.

And I wouldn't call $3.367M cheap. If he was cheap Bos wouldn't be thinking about trading him.

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#62 Zarny
June 18 2014, 04:17PM
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@Maurey

Edm only had to give up a 2014 5th round pick and a 2015 3rd round pick to get Fasth.

Exactly what do you think the Oilers could get for him?

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#63 Maurey
June 18 2014, 04:21PM
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I also like the idea of hugely overpaying Markov on a short term deal 7.75 for 2 years to take on top D until Marincin, Klefbom, Nurse can take over. Maybe even 8M. I think it would take that much to get him. I don't think we'll be up against the cap for the next 2 years and then he and Ference will likely be off the books by then. I'd also consider signing Derek Morris for about $2.5M - $2.75M on a short term deal (2 years). On the right side that would leave Boychuk as the veteran, Petry and Schultz, and hopefully young Kenney Morrison (Alberta raised top college D prospect) to move into Morris' spot when he's done his contract.

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#64 westcoastoil
June 18 2014, 04:27PM
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If Reinhart is still there at #3, expect a call from Van.

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#65 Maurey
June 18 2014, 04:35PM
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@Zarny

Agreed, not a lot, but they'd save some cap room and he might be the piece of a trade that makes it work. There are always a few teams that are in desperate need of a decent backup. Actually, just went through depth charts on capgeek and I bet there are 16 teams that don't have a reliable backup right now. And I bet most of them would consider moving a roster player for one. Sabres, Hurricanes, Blue Jackets, Devils, Islanders, Flyers, Penguins, Capitals could all use a reliable backup and that's just in the East, 8 teams that are more likely to make a trade with Edmonton than the West that could use Fasth.

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#66 Quicksilver ballet
June 18 2014, 04:37PM
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Zarny wrote:

@Maurey

Edm only had to give up a 2014 5th round pick and a 2015 3rd round pick to get Fasth.

Exactly what do you think the Oilers could get for him?

Using Gregors handy dandy Draft value chart. A 3rd (260) plus the fifth (42), equals 302 Canadian Tire bucks. It we're to add say a Gagner to that equasion, 1600 in CTB (6th overall selection), that total (1902) gets us the 4th overall selection again, no? If we combine all those up and cash in all that CTB value.

Just wanted to step up and help out there Zarny.

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#67 Will
June 18 2014, 04:40PM
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Maurey wrote:

I think and hope Boychuk will be an Oiler next season. He's a perfect fit. Sorry, there is no way Boychuk would cost Nurse. Boston is looking to unload salary and Boychuk's is $3.6M. He's in the final year of his contract, so they'll consider themselves lucky if they can get much at all in return. If they don't unload him, they will lose him for 3rd or 4th round picks at the trade deadline. The same goes for a few other players around the league like Scottie Upshall and Clarke MacArthur.

I just think if this guy was so easy to get, then why haven't they got him already? Why is everyone sitting around saying there are no defencemen for the Oilers?

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#68 bazmagoo
June 18 2014, 04:46PM
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One thing I'm sure we can all agree on - whether we get Ekblad, Draisaitl, Reinhart or Bennett the future continues to look bright in Oilersnation. I have faith in MacT's ability to bring in some solid secondary pieces over the summer. I don't have faith in Eakins coaching ability, but am hoping he proves me wrong.

No more losing though, it's time to compete!

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#69 Maurey
June 18 2014, 04:53PM
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@Will

He wasn't in his final contract year until now. He's not easy to get, but Boston's season just finished recently so they weren't even at the point of considering unloading contracts. They have a few options to unload and are probably taking offers to see what is out there. Nobody is trading right now, and probably won't until right before the draft at the earliest. that's why nobody has him yet. And there aren't a lot of top pair UFA D's out there and nobody wants to give up roster players to get players under contract. Boychuk also had a NMC until May 31st of this year. It may be a roster player for a roster player but it won't have to be a top 6 fwd or a top 4 D to get Boychuk.

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#70 Quicksilver ballet
June 18 2014, 04:55PM
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As far as the center thing goes, that's a tough decision indeed. Do we take the 3/4" 20lbs slower and taller Germainian, who plays smaller mans style of game. Plays soft, but with elite potential skill like all the other lotto picks we have. Or, should we take the nealy 6'1" guy (Bennett) who plays a larger mans aggressive style of game.

A poor decision will be Calgarys gain for the remainder of our infinibuild thing we got goin on. It's a no brainer as far as I'm concerned.

MacTavish needs to keep that pipeline of prospects going (that 3rd selection) and lock in that potential furture driver. Any trades/free agency/taking on other teams salary dumps stuffs need to happen after the (Entry Draft) fact.

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#71 admiralmark
June 18 2014, 04:58PM
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I think Toronto would do Phaneuf for the 3rd overall straight up. They get a ton of Cap relief. And they get out from under a long term hefty contract which is going to look bad in a few years. I'm not even sure MacT would pull that trigger with Phaneuf's questionable attitude. He is going to be on the downside in a few years when the Oil core is truly ready to compete for a Cup.

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#72 Will
June 18 2014, 05:12PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

As far as the center thing goes, that's a tough decision indeed. Do we take the 3/4" 20lbs slower and taller Germainian, who plays smaller mans style of game. Plays soft, but with elite potential skill like all the other lotto picks we have. Or, should we take the nealy 6'1" guy (Bennett) who plays a larger mans aggressive style of game.

A poor decision will be Calgarys gain for the remainder of our infinibuild thing we got goin on. It's a no brainer as far as I'm concerned.

MacTavish needs to keep that pipeline of prospects going (that 3rd selection) and lock in that potential furture driver. Any trades/free agency/taking on other teams salary dumps stuffs need to happen after the (Entry Draft) fact.

Given our conference, I think it's a no brainer to take the big German who is tough to knock off the puck. Yes the compete level on the Oilers is lacking and that is something Bennet brings in spades, but how well will that translate to the Western conference when he's trying to bang against monsters.

Not playing competitive aside, I think the Oilers have a far larger problem turning the puck over because they can't win the one on one puck battles.

Plus I'd rather see Calgary with a group of competitive but undersized forwards as their core going forward over a team that doesn't have to play hard because they can just muscle us off the puck.

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#73 Dman
June 18 2014, 05:12PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

As far as the center thing goes, that's a tough decision indeed. Do we take the 3/4" 20lbs slower and taller Germainian, who plays smaller mans style of game. Plays soft, but with elite potential skill like all the other lotto picks we have. Or, should we take the nealy 6'1" guy (Bennett) who plays a larger mans aggressive style of game.

A poor decision will be Calgarys gain for the remainder of our infinibuild thing we got goin on. It's a no brainer as far as I'm concerned.

MacTavish needs to keep that pipeline of prospects going (that 3rd selection) and lock in that potential furture driver. Any trades/free agency/taking on other teams salary dumps stuffs need to happen after the (Entry Draft) fact.

I'm not so sure its a no brainer. Correct me if I am wrong but isn't there thought to be little difference between picks 3 and 4 this year? I think both players will good picks, regardless of which team they go to.

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#74 Dman
June 18 2014, 05:12PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

As far as the center thing goes, that's a tough decision indeed. Do we take the 3/4" 20lbs slower and taller Germainian, who plays smaller mans style of game. Plays soft, but with elite potential skill like all the other lotto picks we have. Or, should we take the nealy 6'1" guy (Bennett) who plays a larger mans aggressive style of game.

A poor decision will be Calgarys gain for the remainder of our infinibuild thing we got goin on. It's a no brainer as far as I'm concerned.

MacTavish needs to keep that pipeline of prospects going (that 3rd selection) and lock in that potential furture driver. Any trades/free agency/taking on other teams salary dumps stuffs need to happen after the (Entry Draft) fact.

I'm not so sure its a no brainer. Correct me if I am wrong but isn't there thought to be little difference between picks 3 and 4 this year? I think both players will good picks, regardless of which team they go to.

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#75 aspin
June 18 2014, 05:17PM
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@Zarny

Maybe not Phaneuf of 5 years ago but when he is your captain and the team cannot wait to get rid of him that says something.

He is too old, too ineffective now, and gets paid way too much for way too long. Can you imagine how brutal he is going to be in 2 years let alone 4.

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#76 Quicksilver ballet
June 18 2014, 05:22PM
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@Will

You guys have to get over this preoccupation with size. You do know that the Rangers, who dress some of the tallest players in the league got thumped last week. Behemoths all, Brian Boyle 6'7 245lbs, Rick Nash 6'5" 230lbs, Benoit Pouliot 6'4" 200lbs, and Marc Stall 6'3" 220lbs.....all gave up the fight with barely a whimper.

It's the amount of fight in the dog that wins the fight, not the largest dog in the fight.

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#77 Will
June 18 2014, 05:32PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

You guys have to get over this preoccupation with size. You do know that the Rangers, who dress some of the tallest players in the league got thumped last week. Behemoths all, Brian Boyle 6'7 245lbs, Rick Nash 6'5" 230lbs, Benoit Pouliot 6'4" 200lbs, and Marc Stall 6'3" 220lbs.....all gave up the fight with barely a whimper.

It's the amount of fight in the dog that wins the fight, not the largest dog in the fight.

Yes that x y rhetoric really explains the issue. It's hilarious that you use an example of a huge team losing to an even bigger team to justify why size in the new NHL, especially in the western conference, is not important.

The kings have one forward player under 6 foot, 4 of those are under 200 pounds. On defense, none under 6 foot and only one under 200 pounds.

New York Forwards have three under 6 foot, 7 others right at 6 foot, and only 6 listed over 200 pounds. Defense is a similar story.

So please, tell me again how the losing team which was smaller than the wining team makes an argument for size not being an issue.

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#78 Will
June 18 2014, 05:39PM
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Will wrote:

Yes that x y rhetoric really explains the issue. It's hilarious that you use an example of a huge team losing to an even bigger team to justify why size in the new NHL, especially in the western conference, is not important.

The kings have one forward player under 6 foot, 4 of those are under 200 pounds. On defense, none under 6 foot and only one under 200 pounds.

New York Forwards have three under 6 foot, 7 others right at 6 foot, and only 6 listed over 200 pounds. Defense is a similar story.

So please, tell me again how the losing team which was smaller than the wining team makes an argument for size not being an issue.

I'd also like to point out almost redundantly that on their way to the cup finals, the Kings had to go through every other big western conference team except St Louis. All those series went to 7. New York was done in 5.

Second, it kind of looks like the biggest Eastern Conference Team met the biggest Western conference team, and the larger team won.

You go all the way with your size argument, but as an Oilers fan, the sad fact is it's what we tell ourselves because our team is small, and we keep hoping that if they just play with some fire, they'll be able to compete in the conference. Unfortunately it's just not true.

Until they get bigger, the Oilers will continually struggle in the West.

Fortunately, the more guys getting bought out and the more breaking down in contract negotiations, it seems our team could indeed get bigger before September. Maybe they will trade Gagner for Phanuef, and they get Boychuck as well. Perhaps Brian Boyle signs here as our third line centre and the Oilers draft Draisaitl. Then maybe they grab Winnik and Booth to round out the bottom six. Overnight we went from a small team, to an average team.

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#79 CMG30
June 18 2014, 05:40PM
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I agree, The the #3 is the Oilers biggest bargaining chip. The other is their willingness to eat bad contracts from other teams.

I won't be offended if the Oil make the pick (we can always use top prospects on the farm) but if they do move it, the return had better fill a big hole in the roster.

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#80 Oprah sucks
June 18 2014, 06:12PM
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Zach93 wrote:

Look at how many Slovenians there are in the nhl and then look at anze kopitar so LS has the potential to become a great player

I believe I said that already. "Maybe he is like kopitar and makes it big comming from somewhere land......! I also said he's a fantastic prospect. Fantastic prospects have potential to become great players. The point I was making is if they can get a proven nhler then that's what they do if it's the right player. Soooo not sure what ur argument is?

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#81 Danger Pay
June 18 2014, 06:20PM
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Zarny wrote:

Despite the fact that everything points to the opposite?

Ummm Seth Jones? Everything pointed to him going 1st, I can't remember, which spot did he go again? Oh, that's right 4th.

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#82 Quicksilver ballet
June 18 2014, 06:24PM
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Will wrote:

Yes that x y rhetoric really explains the issue. It's hilarious that you use an example of a huge team losing to an even bigger team to justify why size in the new NHL, especially in the western conference, is not important.

The kings have one forward player under 6 foot, 4 of those are under 200 pounds. On defense, none under 6 foot and only one under 200 pounds.

New York Forwards have three under 6 foot, 7 others right at 6 foot, and only 6 listed over 200 pounds. Defense is a similar story.

So please, tell me again how the losing team which was smaller than the wining team makes an argument for size not being an issue.

It obviously means nothing to you that the Conn Smythe trophy winner (the best of the best). What a bloody travesty that speed, skill and competitiveness trumped size on this occasion.

Justin Williams, is the exact same size as Sam Bennett is right now.

Was it just be an aberration? Not.

Last 5 Conn Smthe trophy winners Justin Williams 5'11", Patrick Kane 5'10", John Quick 6'1", Tim Thomas 6'1", John Toews 6'2".....all the best amongst their team mates and their competition. This rhetoric may help explain the issue for you.

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#83 Jasmine
June 18 2014, 06:34PM
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westcoastoil wrote:

If Reinhart is still there at #3, expect a call from Van.

Oilers will hang up. They will not trade with those idiot Canucks after the stupid Canucks rejected the Oilers offer for Schneider last year. Oilers probably want Reinhart themselves and Reinhart would love playing for the Oilers.

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#84 Jasmine
June 18 2014, 06:38PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

As far as the center thing goes, that's a tough decision indeed. Do we take the 3/4" 20lbs slower and taller Germainian, who plays smaller mans style of game. Plays soft, but with elite potential skill like all the other lotto picks we have. Or, should we take the nealy 6'1" guy (Bennett) who plays a larger mans aggressive style of game.

A poor decision will be Calgarys gain for the remainder of our infinibuild thing we got goin on. It's a no brainer as far as I'm concerned.

MacTavish needs to keep that pipeline of prospects going (that 3rd selection) and lock in that potential furture driver. Any trades/free agency/taking on other teams salary dumps stuffs need to happen after the (Entry Draft) fact.

Draisaitl is not that big. He's only 6'1" and is over-hyped and overrated. He doesn't care about helping his team but wants more players in Germany to become hockey players.

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#85 Jasmine
June 18 2014, 06:41PM
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Will wrote:

Given our conference, I think it's a no brainer to take the big German who is tough to knock off the puck. Yes the compete level on the Oilers is lacking and that is something Bennet brings in spades, but how well will that translate to the Western conference when he's trying to bang against monsters.

Not playing competitive aside, I think the Oilers have a far larger problem turning the puck over because they can't win the one on one puck battles.

Plus I'd rather see Calgary with a group of competitive but undersized forwards as their core going forward over a team that doesn't have to play hard because they can just muscle us off the puck.

OILERS NEED TO STAY AWAY FROM THE OVER-HYPED AND OVERRATED DRAISAITL. Draisaitl is the most over-hyped and overrated prospect in the draft. If Ekblad is gone, draft Bennett or Reinhart but do not draft the over-hyped and overrated Draisaitl who could easily be a bust like Bonsignore.

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#86 Woogie63
June 18 2014, 06:41PM
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Trade number 3 to Buffalo for Tyler Myers

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#87 MacTastic
June 18 2014, 09:07PM
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From Robin:

"For my money, the last two weeks of June leading into the annual NHL Entry Draft and the free agent season are the most fun for fans, media types and armchair general managers alike. That holds especially true in a hockey hotbed like Edmonton. Here we are again."

Agreed. Although for my money, the FIRST two weeks of June 2006 were pretty awesome. I was living in London back then, and watching Oilers games for two months until 4 and 5 am remains an insane and beautiful and distant memory. What it would be like to experience this again....

Come on MacT! Give Hallsy some help!!

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#88 Will
June 18 2014, 09:37PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

It obviously means nothing to you that the Conn Smythe trophy winner (the best of the best). What a bloody travesty that speed, skill and competitiveness trumped size on this occasion.

Justin Williams, is the exact same size as Sam Bennett is right now.

Was it just be an aberration? Not.

Last 5 Conn Smthe trophy winners Justin Williams 5'11", Patrick Kane 5'10", John Quick 6'1", Tim Thomas 6'1", John Toews 6'2".....all the best amongst their team mates and their competition. This rhetoric may help explain the issue for you.

These are all the best amongst their TEAM. We have plenty of potential con smyth winners. What the Oilers need is the team around them.

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#89 BabyNuge's_Baby
June 18 2014, 09:58PM
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Yakupov + Gagne for the first overall, draft Ekblad first and the Leon second. Just my take

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#90 bestmyfeeling
June 18 2014, 10:30PM
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Robin Brownlee wrote:

A maybe draft pick for a first-pairing defenseman is a huge loss for the Oilers?

We're not talking first overall and Hall or RNH. MacTavish is looking for help now.

Like I said, everybody, including me, is an armchair GM right now.

phaneuf is indeed a first pairing d, but the huge contract, terrible attitude and lacklustre play is what makes me think this is a terrible idea.

like you mentioned, you and I (well definitely "i") have no say in what they oilers will or will not do, but if i was mact i would never do that trade

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#91 Walter Sobchak
June 18 2014, 10:50PM
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Jasmine wrote:

Oilers will hang up. They will not trade with those idiot Canucks after the stupid Canucks rejected the Oilers offer for Schneider last year. Oilers probably want Reinhart themselves and Reinhart would love playing for the Oilers.

You realize that was a blessing in disguise right?

One of the players going to Van was Paajarvi, no Paajarvi, no Perron.

As for Drasatle......well since you hate him so much.....Guess who the Oilers pick. Karma a bitch when it comes to the Oilers.

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#92 Stealthwise
June 19 2014, 12:12AM
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Rumours are that Chicago wants to clear up cap space by dealing Oduya. Campbell reportedly wants out of FLA. Get it done Oilers

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#93 headmetal
June 19 2014, 12:47AM
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our top 6 has holes...take a peak at our RW which is just as shallow as our C http://www.capgeek.com/oilers/depth-chart/

tenders should be good now, d needs that big RH shot in the top 1-2 (Boychuk), and grab some bottom 6 depth (Boyle)

I like the one rumor of dealing down with Philly, however if Ebs is ever going we need to fill that RW more than our Center position! Plenty of centers this free agency to toss $$ that we have at

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#94 nugeformayor
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I think Bennet is the proper pick so what if drasaitl is bigger he doesnt play big, we have lots of that. The fact everyone is looking past a player with the most compete and grit shows how bad the situation is here in edmonton. Bennet is also almost a year younger and put up similar points think how good he will be in a year vs this unproven drasiatl. If Doug Gilmour says hes the guy im with him.

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#95 Mustangheart
June 19 2014, 12:19PM
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Just all the chit chat and picking this player over that player, trading the pick or not trading the pick, is exciting as hell for me and I cannot wait for the 27th.

I am just glad, I am not in MacT's shoes that has to make these decisions and I am confident MacT will do us proud. For every team, it's a gamble of which direction they choose to go. Go Oilers Go !!

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#96 wiseguy
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Will wrote:

Phanuef will get 7 mill for the next 7 years. Do the Oilers really want to be Hamstrug in the future because they are paying a 37 year old overrated defenseman? How soon we forget the Horcoff Debacle. Imagine what will happen with a guy like Phaneuf. Also, he has a limitid no move clause where he gets to submit a list of 12 teams, what makes anyone think the Oilers would be on that list?

The biggest issue is in 3 years when our young D has developed and Phanuef is playing 3 pairing minutes but getting paid like top line material, how on earth do the Oilers expect to trade that contract? Toronto should be desperate to get that contract off the books by any means necessary.

If they got our 3rd overall pick to get rid of that contract, Nonis wins GM of the year.

The Horcoff debacle? Did MacT win GM of the year for "ridding" himself of a player that helped his team make the playoffs when most did not expect them to this past year? Apparently his contract was not as much of an albatross to making the playoffs as it was made out to be by the excuse making / scapegoat blaming fanbase of a poor team.

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#97 LOIL99
June 19 2014, 04:38PM
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That was a lot of comment reading I just did.

Summary: WILL is a idiot of epic proportions.

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