Welcome to the third line, Nail Yakupov

Jonathan Willis
June 23 2014 03:20PM

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In a long, wide-ranging interview with the Edmonton Jouranl’s Jim Matheson, Oilers general manager Craig MacTavish described Nail Yakupov as a third-line player.

This will doubtless be controversial. It shouldn’t be, because that’s exactly where the player should slot in on the organizational depth chart today.

The Quote

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Matheson: “From the outside, it looks like you have good top-six forwards and excellent character guys like Matt Hendricks and Boyd Gordon, who were maybe playing a little higher up in the batting order than they should have been. Could you use some third-line guys with some offensive touch?”

MacTavish: “Yup. That’s fair. Much like Chicago’s got where they have three lines of offensive guys and a fourth line that can play against anybody. That’s what we’d really like to do. We need (Anton) Lander to step up and (Mark) Arcobello, or add a free-agent forward or two who can compete for those jobs. Maybe somebody who could come in and be a good fit with Yak (Nail Yakupov on the third line). We have the first line (Hall, Nugent-Hopkins and Eberle). If we can draft a guy at centre who can play, then we’d have that guy, Perron and Sam or some form of that.”

The Chicago Model

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MacTavish mentions Chicago specifically, which is interesting because the Blackhawks really had the blender running game-to-game in 2013-14.

  • The first line was a constant, featuring Jonathan Toews and Marian Hossa together, with Patrick Sharp the regular third on that line.
  • The middle six was in constant flux. Patrick Kane played 150-plus minutes with eight different forwards, shuffling through the top nine depending on the night and the game situation, and his most regular linemate (Brandon Saad) spent less than one-third of the season with him.
  • The fourth line of Brandon Bollig, Marcus Kruger and Ben Smith featured two good faceoff men (Kruger and Smith) and was used as a defensive zone specialty line, occasionally even when tough opponents were on the ice.

It’s easy to understand why MacTavish picked Chicago. Aside from the Blackhawks being a great team that plays a style suited to the Oilers’ players, there are definite similarities in roster construction. The Oilers have a steady top line (Taylor Hall, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins and Jordan Eberle), and a pair of players (Matt Hendricks and Boyd Gordon) perhaps suited to playing the role of Kruger & Smith.

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What we don’t know is whether MacTavish envisions using Luke Gazdic in the Bollig role (prior to this season, Bollig had zero points in 43 career NHL games and was a perfectly wretched AHL player too). The trouble is that in that case all three players on the line would be left-handed shots, with none of them especially suited to right wing. A better solution might be to employ Mark Arcobello on the right wing of the line, which would add the offensive creativity that Smith brings to Chicago’s fourth line as well as a right-handed faceoff man and a designated right winger (in Kruger and Smith, the Blackhawks have the combination of RH/LH faceoff men), but Edmonton might not feel comfortable with Hendricks being the line’s designated physical player.

We can also include Steve Pinizzotto, Tyler Pitlick, Anton Lander and Jesse Joensuu in this conversation.

The Mushy Middle

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In Chicago’s case, the gap between second and third line was pretty difficult to determine at times, except that the Kane/Saad duo were generally on the ice against better players than were Andrew Shaw and Bryan Bickell. Other than that, both lines were primarily used in offensive situations and expected to score.

On a team with a power-vs.-power line, a defensive zone line, and two auxiliary scoring units, there is absolutely no question as to where Nail Yakupov should slot into the mix. He’s not ready for employment in a power-vs.-power role (and like Kane, that may never be his calling) and he’s certainly not getting wasted on the defensive zone line. That leaves the two other scoring lines, and sticking Yakupov in the one that gets slightly easier minutes is a no-brainer if ever there was one.

Assuming Sam Gagner sticks around – and it sort of sounds like he will – he, David Perron and Yakupov would fill three of those slots, likely with Gagner and Perron holding down the second unit and Yakupov on the third. That leaves three slots open for one or two free agent additions, the player Edmonton lands at the draft, as well as Arcobello and Lander, with the latter two likely the Oilers’ fallback options if all doesn’t go well in free agency or if Aaron Ekblad somehow falls to third overall.

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Jonathan Willis is a freelance writer. He currently works for Oilers Nation, Sportsnet, the Edmonton Journal and Bleacher Report. He's co-written three books and worked for myriad websites, including Grantland, ESPN, The Score, and Hockey Prospectus. He was previously the founder and managing editor of Copper & Blue.
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#1 Quicksilver ballet
June 23 2014, 03:25PM
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With Dallas still here, this is a given I'm sure. No surprise really for a coach who points fingers at his players first. Eakins may be jealous Yak City has 28 career goals, to his zero.

On the other hand, another year of Eakins means Connor McDavid is practically all ours. Enjoy what we're all being force fed and stay the course, think positive folks.

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#2 Fresh Mess
June 23 2014, 06:20PM
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He should be playing third line in the AHL.

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#3 99
June 23 2014, 03:33PM
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Mike Richards could solve a lot of problems.

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#4 John Kirsch
June 23 2014, 03:50PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

With Dallas still here, this is a given I'm sure. No surprise really for a coach who points fingers at his players first. Eakins may be jealous Yak City has 28 career goals, to his zero.

On the other hand, another year of Eakins means Connor McDavid is practically all ours. Enjoy what we're all being force fed and stay the course, think positive folks.

No way we are getting McDavid or Eichel (I believe both players will be super stars)sorry this team will be better than you think. We just

Saw RJ Umberger was traded to Philly, how nice would it have been to see him on the Oilers.

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#5 Serious Gord
June 23 2014, 03:45PM
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If gagner is indeed not going to be traded but instead moved to the wing and yak plays third line with grinders then BOTH MacT and Eakins should be fired as this is a recipe for failure all the more galling because they saw the same failure LAST season.

Crazy incompetence.

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#6 Quicksilver ballet
June 23 2014, 03:55PM
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Craig1981 wrote:

You are right, it is totally the Zamboni drivers, concession workers, and Joey Moss he should be pointing his fingers at first.

Shame on him for holding players accountable when they have a tantrum on the bench (Hall) or refuse to play the teams style (Yak)

*eyes rolled*

Well I apologize then. I wasn't aware the coaches job wasn't to work with the group of players his boss/GM assembled/made available to him. Put as many of them in a position to succeed as possible. If MacTavish had any balls, he'd fire Eakins for publically questioning/embarrassing some of the players he provided Dallas with. Only a loser resorts to standing before the media and points fingers at players who he deems are responsible for the loss. That stuff should stay inside the dressing room.

These public displays you mentioned, could also just be frustration, caused by egotistical rookie coach coming in and incorporating an American Hockey League system, no?.

"rolls eyes"

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#7 pelhem grenville
June 23 2014, 04:01PM
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MacT said it..."...If we can draft a guy at centre who can play, then we’d have that guy,..."

sounds like they're planning on drafting Draisaitl and ruining him ... some things just never change ... when they call his name he should Lindros on their a$$es!!!

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#8 Quicksilver ballet
June 23 2014, 04:24PM
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@John Kirsch

Saw RJ Umberger was traded to Philly, how nice would it have been to see him on the Oilers.

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Sort of supports my argument there doesn't it John? B and C level guys like Nikitin and Umberger won't touch Edmonton with a 10' pole.

If Katz hadn't said no to MacT cutting Eakins a cheque last year/firing him, then what you say would be possible. Maintaining the status quo, and expecting different results is highly unlikely under Eakins style, or lack thereof.

The Oil are a serious contender for McDavid under the latest and greatest thing to ever come out of the AHL in Eakins.

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#9 Quicksilver ballet
June 23 2014, 04:08PM
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Craig1981 wrote:

I don't think they are saying that at all. From my understanding MacT wants to add a couple UFAs for the bottom 6

LMFAO...

The only thing the Oilers will get this summer, is another boatload of Eagers/Belangers and Barker types. The hope phase for drawing more so called, actual NHL players here, died with that 28th place finish last season. That STOP sign is never more on display to UFA's than it is now.

In case you haven't been able to get it through your thick skull yet. The Oilers are the only team that will eventually provide them with "Actual NHL players". What part of this don't you underfrickenstand?

18 yr olds (entry level players) in, till there's something here that resembles an actual NHL team. Overpaying for B and C level UFA's is fools gold when you're continually bringing kids in at the top of the ELC pay scale. Have the balls to support your younger players, don't question them by continually rolling the rif raf available throughout this league.

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#10 Craig1981
June 23 2014, 03:36PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

With Dallas still here, this is a given I'm sure. No surprise really for a coach who points fingers at his players first. Eakins may be jealous Yak City has 28 career goals, to his zero.

On the other hand, another year of Eakins means Connor McDavid is practically all ours. Enjoy what we're all being force fed and stay the course, think positive folks.

You are right, it is totally the Zamboni drivers, concession workers, and Joey Moss he should be pointing his fingers at first.

Shame on him for holding players accountable when they have a tantrum on the bench (Hall) or refuse to play the teams style (Yak)

*eyes rolled*

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#11 Bart
June 23 2014, 07:49PM
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Gagner has no place on this team IMO. He has been absolute poison for anyone who is sentenced to play with him. He has not and never will make anyone else better. Winger or center he is a major fail and it is time move on. He must have some very damaging video on someone to have lasted this long. Cut bait.

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#12 Spydyr
June 23 2014, 07:49PM
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Craig1981 wrote:

It isn't all that matters, but a team that was 25th in the league in scoring, shouldn't be throwing away players that are capable in being in the top 50 in scoring.

Defense could be better no question, which is why he may be better suited for wing. The season before last his defense was much better.

No intangibles?? I constantly hear from people inside the organization he is a great team guy, isn't afraid to drop the gloves for his team, and tried to come back crazy early from a major injury to help his team. One thing you can't argue is his compete level.

Drop his gloves for the team.Now that is funny.He had what three fights against other smurfs?I'm sure he totally intimidates the other players.

He does not forecheck, win puck battles,screen the goalie,hit or pick up his man on the backcheck.Please tell me more about how he is better suited for the wing.

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#13 Serious Gord
June 23 2014, 04:43PM
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Craig1981 wrote:

I don't know. Last year MacT added Ference, Gordon as UFAs and Perron via trade before the start of the season. If he was to add 3 plays that match that caliber, I think we would be in better shape.

Not bad for his only season as GM. I have higher hope than I would with Tamballini

Signed gagner, signed a few other stiffs, ran with dubnyk and now has a starting goalie duo that has 109 games in the nhl combined - is there another team with less experience in that position?

And now wants to keep gagner and make him a winger where he has been a serial failure?

I thought he was a bad hire - and I have seen on balance more evidence to support that opinion than to reject it.

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#14 Fresh Mess
June 23 2014, 06:51PM
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Taylor Gang wrote:

Ha! Schultz getting paid 4? Petry getting paid 5?

Schultz' realistic value is about 3.25 imho, Petry I'd peg at 3.75

You're both over. My guess is 1 dollar, Bob.

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#15 David S
June 23 2014, 07:03PM
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Serious Gord wrote:

If gagner is indeed not going to be traded but instead moved to the wing and yak plays third line with grinders then BOTH MacT and Eakins should be fired as this is a recipe for failure all the more galling because they saw the same failure LAST season.

Crazy incompetence.

MacTavish: “Yup. That’s fair. Much like Chicago’s got where they have three lines of offensive guys and a fourth line that can play against anybody. That’s what we’d really like to do.

Speaking of incompetence, "Serious" Gord, if you spent a bit more time on reading comprehension and less time on fabricated faux anger you might have realized MacT plans to have Yak on a scoring line (read: "no grinders") and Gagner on the wing (something alot of guys around here have been calling for). Good thought on Gagner too as he's pretty much guaranteed to have a career year next season on the rebound.

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#16 Spydyr
June 23 2014, 07:28PM
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Craig1981 wrote:

If he is 35 overall in scoring next year like he was the year before last, it wouldn't hurt a team.

Yes, because points scored is all that matters.

He hurts the team defensively everytime he steps on the ice.

He brings absolutely nothing in intangibles.

I could go on and on about his deficiencies but already have stated them here many,many times.

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#17 Serious Gord
June 23 2014, 09:17PM
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@Craig1981

Niemi and halak were both available this postseason. Last season could have gotten Bryz for pocket change AT THE BEGINNING of the season (I said as much on air at the time) and the backUp behind dubnyk was the third best at camp. And nothing prevented MacT from trading for a veteran starter.

Maybe the biggest mistake he made was over estimating dubnyk - cost the team even having a sniff at contending for the playoffs right out the chute. And now he has put all his chips on two third stringers with almost no nhl experience.

MacT is a very stubborn guy just like his boss.

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#18 madjam
June 24 2014, 07:54AM
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AS THE STOMACH TURNS : Derek ZONA has a good article on MACT's club for this season , and it is not a pretty one . Defence we have 4 . If you include Nurse , Marincin and Klefbom that still only makes 6 . Nikiten would make 7 . Like it or not that is our best option , nothing in rest of AHL squad any better of options. Forwards : We have 10 with Arcobello and Gadzik . With Joensuee and Landers and 3RD PICK this draft we still only have 13 . Goalies : At least we have 2 .

Yakupov is still one of two natural RW on our club , and like it or not still the best option for top two lines . After they got rid of Hemsky he should have moved up rather than have others move out of position to fill another unfilled position by MacT . What has MacT. added since ? What a bind he has put this team in . Did he really think he could just add decent players so easily to the holes he has created on our squad ?

I sure don't like the looks of what we appear to have now , and I doubt that can even beat Buffalo next year . Read the article and graph and I think you'll see what I mean . We have to rush these players as it will still be our best option .

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#19 Craig1981
June 23 2014, 08:26PM
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Spydyr wrote:

Drop his gloves for the team.Now that is funny.He had what three fights against other smurfs?I'm sure he totally intimidates the other players.

He does not forecheck, win puck battles,screen the goalie,hit or pick up his man on the backcheck.Please tell me more about how he is better suited for the wing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSNYy7oCMG8

Olli Jokinin 6'3" 215lbs.

Its not about intimation its about showing fight. The fact that Eakins, his coach, gave him the 2nd most icetime for centers and his GM gave him a 3 year contract means that he does backcheck. Effort is not an issue. I'm basing this on the contract, his icetime, former player comments on here. Unless you have some basis for your next comment,I will not continue to hijack comment section.

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#20 Mb99
June 23 2014, 07:11PM
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Will wrote:

This article all day! I'm glad they are deciding to split Yak and Gagner and create a soft minutes line. It scars me a little that they are going ot look for internal options and drafted players for that. Basically it sounds like they are saying this:

Hall - Nuge - Ebs

Perron - Drafted Center - Gagner

Lander - Arco - Yak

Hendricks - Gordon - Pinnizotto

Gazdic

That is frightening, and will get crushed in this conference.

At the very least could they maybe do

Hall - Nuge - Ebs

Perron - UFACenter - Gagner

Vet big bodies UFA LW - Drafted Center - Yak

Handricks - Gordon - Winnik/ Booth/ Downie. I could live with that.

You put Yak with a rookie centre?? WOW....... Do you guys even turn your Bain on or your drunk!!!!

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#21 Quicksilver ballet
June 23 2014, 04:52PM
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99 wrote:

Mike Richards could solve a lot of problems.

I hear he's not too busy since Seinfeld wrapped up a couple years ago.

Oops sorry, there's more than one Michael Richards in Los Angeles...

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#22 Spydyr
June 23 2014, 06:46PM
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Craig1981 wrote:

I think its too early to say signing Gagner was a bad move. He very well could have a turnaround season and you could eat your words.

Sportsnet listed the top goalies available last year as. Bryzgalov, Emery, Nabokov, Thomas, and DiPietro. Not exactly like he was loaded with options. I am glad he waited.

Bottom line, I didn't love our team last year but I like it a lot more this year.

I'm sure Gagner will bounce back like his previous seven seasons.

It is now officially summer and kool-aid season.

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#23 madjam
June 23 2014, 07:07PM
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I find it an oddity that we seem to have less Nhl players , an overabundance of AHL players , as well as poorer teams since we got our own AHL team . I wonder if we did not have an AHL team , whether they would have been faced with going after more viable NHL players ? You would think it would have really helped by now , but it doesn't show much so far .

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#24 former Notre Dame Hound
June 23 2014, 10:21PM
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@Bart

Omg...I am not the only one with Gagneritous, horrible disease....we have to get rid of the complete embarrassment, that's why the other teams just laugh...he even looks like some peewee wanabe with his mouth guard hanging out...he even thinks he is good...lol

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#25 Spydyr
June 23 2014, 06:44PM
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BaconWrapped wrote:

Doesn't the coach usually determine the lines? Is MacT overstepping his bounds a bit here?

Come on, Katz picks the lines.

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#26 Harry
June 23 2014, 08:09PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

Well I apologize then. I wasn't aware the coaches job wasn't to work with the group of players his boss/GM assembled/made available to him. Put as many of them in a position to succeed as possible. If MacTavish had any balls, he'd fire Eakins for publically questioning/embarrassing some of the players he provided Dallas with. Only a loser resorts to standing before the media and points fingers at players who he deems are responsible for the loss. That stuff should stay inside the dressing room.

These public displays you mentioned, could also just be frustration, caused by egotistical rookie coach coming in and incorporating an American Hockey League system, no?.

"rolls eyes"

So every coach who calls out a player should be fired? Stick to what you apparently know best, fighting.

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#27 nuge2nail
June 23 2014, 06:10PM
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pkam wrote:

I believe Grabovski will ask around 5M, Kulemin 3M and Moss 2M. So our 1st line total 18M, 2nd line around 14M, 3rd line around 5M and 4th line 7M, plus 1M for the 13th and 14th forwards, total salary for forwards will be 45M.

Take another 5M for the 2 goalies, it will leave 20M for the 7 defense if the cap is 70M.

I think 20M is not quite enough if we want to upgrade the defense.

Oiler Domination To Follow

Oilers have 28+ million in cap space.

Grabovski 5, Kulemin 3.5, Moss 2.5

Shultz 4, Petry 5

Your looking at 20 million, still leaves us with 8 million to upgrade the defence(Nikitin 4, Boychuk 4)

We have more than enough cap to grab Grabo, Kuli and Moss - while upgrading the defense.

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#28 ThatButthurtOilersFan
June 23 2014, 04:20PM
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99 wrote:

Mike Richards could solve a lot of problems.

Signing Richards would cause more problems than anything.

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#29 Craig1981
June 23 2014, 04:56PM
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Serious Gord wrote:

Signed gagner, signed a few other stiffs, ran with dubnyk and now has a starting goalie duo that has 109 games in the nhl combined - is there another team with less experience in that position?

And now wants to keep gagner and make him a winger where he has been a serial failure?

I thought he was a bad hire - and I have seen on balance more evidence to support that opinion than to reject it.

I think its too early to say signing Gagner was a bad move. He very well could have a turnaround season and you could eat your words.

Sportsnet listed the top goalies available last year as. Bryzgalov, Emery, Nabokov, Thomas, and DiPietro. Not exactly like he was loaded with options. I am glad he waited.

Bottom line, I didn't love our team last year but I like it a lot more this year.

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#30 The Last Big Bear
June 23 2014, 06:05PM
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I'm loving that middle-6 which currently consists of:

1) Nail "I don't like to skate all the time and forecheck, that's not my game" Yakupov. A player that needs to be VERY carefully managed.

2) An 18 year old kid who hasn't even been drafted yet.

3) A UFA of unknown identity who has yet to be signed.

4) Sam "has never hit 20 goals and his production peaked 7 years ago" Gagner

5) David Perron. No problem here.

6) ?

Solid, baby. Rock solid.

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#31 2004Z06
June 23 2014, 06:11PM
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Serious Gord wrote:

Signed gagner, signed a few other stiffs, ran with dubnyk and now has a starting goalie duo that has 109 games in the nhl combined - is there another team with less experience in that position?

And now wants to keep gagner and make him a winger where he has been a serial failure?

I thought he was a bad hire - and I have seen on balance more evidence to support that opinion than to reject it.

Gord, I am not a fan of keeping Gagner either, but his value is at an all time low and his most successful year was as a winger. Who knows maybe he plays well and is then tradable at the deadline. Seemed to work for Cogliano.

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#32 Craig1981
June 23 2014, 07:15PM
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Spydyr wrote:

I'm sure Gagner will bounce back like his previous seven seasons.

It is now officially summer and kool-aid season.

If he is 35 overall in scoring next year like he was the year before last, it wouldn't hurt a team.

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#33 Serious Gord
June 23 2014, 09:23PM
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Harry wrote:

Check out Vancouvers goalie depth chart

I will at the start of the season...

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#34 Reg Dunlop
June 24 2014, 01:36AM
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For those of you personally affronted by criticism of comrade Yak, rest easy as help may be around the corner. When the oil call out the name Draisaitl on Friday the heat will be off Yak as the new future whipping boy will be official. I say this because, well, the kid looks like Phil Esposito, and that's not a good thing. I mean, the kid can't skate. You can't skate you can't play in today's NHL. Sorry folks but this is not going to end well.

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#35 madjam
June 24 2014, 08:36AM
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Replacing Hemsky , Smyth , Jones with the likes of Joensuu ,Arcobello and Landers is not upgrading . While i'm on Smyth , might he be bought back to replace/fill the vacancy left by Steve Smith ?

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#36 Craig1981
June 23 2014, 04:19PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

LMFAO...

The only thing the Oilers will get this summer, is another boatload of Eagers/Belangers and Barker types. The hope phase for drawing more so called, actual NHL players here, died with that 28th place finish last season. That STOP sign is never more on display to UFA's than it is now.

In case you haven't been able to get it through your thick skull yet. The Oilers are the only team that will eventually provide them with "Actual NHL players". What part of this don't you underfrickenstand?

18 yr olds (entry level players) in, till there's something here that resembles an actual NHL team. Overpaying for B and C level UFA's is fools gold when you're continually bringing kids in at the top of the ELC pay scale. Have the balls to support your younger players, don't question them by continually rolling the rif raf available throughout this league.

I don't know. Last year MacT added Ference, Gordon as UFAs and Perron via trade before the start of the season. If he was to add 3 plays that match that caliber, I think we would be in better shape.

Not bad for his only season as GM. I have higher hope than I would with Tamballini

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#37 nuge2nail
June 23 2014, 05:22PM
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Oiler Domination To Follow

With a couple solid ufas- the forwards could look like this:

Hall Hopkins Eberle

Perron Grabovski Gagner

Kulemin Draisaitl Yakupov

Hendricks Gordan Moss

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#38 Craig1981
June 23 2014, 07:43PM
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Spydyr wrote:

Yes, because points scored is all that matters.

He hurts the team defensively everytime he steps on the ice.

He brings absolutely nothing in intangibles.

I could go on and on about his deficiencies but already have stated them here many,many times.

It isn't all that matters, but a team that was 25th in the league in scoring, shouldn't be throwing away players that are capable in being in the top 50 in scoring.

Defense could be better no question, which is why he may be better suited for wing. The season before last his defense was much better.

No intangibles?? I constantly hear from people inside the organization he is a great team guy, isn't afraid to drop the gloves for his team, and tried to come back crazy early from a major injury to help his team. One thing you can't argue is his compete level.

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#39 camdog
June 23 2014, 10:02PM
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@Serious Gord

Biggest mistake was only having DD. And it's looking like this seasons biggest mistake is only having Scrivens.

We keep acquiring other teams 3rd and 4th goalie and expect them to push the starter.

If Scrivens loses his confidence or gets hurt the season is over, unless we can get another goalie into the system. Maybe I am over reacting because of what I saw last year..

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#40 YakSaitl
June 24 2014, 07:25AM
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I hope the Oilers will draft Draisaitl, also if Ekblad would be there. With Marincin, Klefbom and especially Nurse the Oilers have very sound D-prospects with Nurse potentially beeing a future top-pairing guy. I think Draisaitl would really fit on a line with Yakupov, he would be the perfect playmaker for Yak.

Overpay for both Grabo and Kulemin and the whole forward lineup would already look much better.

Hallsy-Nuge-Ebs Perron-Grabo-Gagner Kulemin-Draisaitl-Yak Hendricks-Gordon-Arco

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#41 hallsyoilerforever5
June 23 2014, 03:24PM
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Yak should get sheltered minutes, by at the same time they should utilize him properly on the PP with that bomb of a one timer he has. I'll like to see somebody like Grabovski and Kulemin signed here to help him out on a line. The hate Yak got this year from the media was excruciating to hear and listen to. I guess they forgot how bad last year's calder winner in Huberdeau did. Even Galchenyuk season was pretty mediocre. I'm sure Yakupov will bounce back and shut the critics up. Especially the Xenophobic ones. ( Don Cherry)

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#42 BaconWrapped
June 23 2014, 03:46PM
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Doesn't the coach usually determine the lines? Is MacT overstepping his bounds a bit here?

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#43 nuge2nail
June 23 2014, 08:29PM
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Taylor Gang wrote:

Ha! Schultz getting paid 4? Petry getting paid 5?

Schultz' realistic value is about 3.25 imho, Petry I'd peg at 3.75

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I only put Shultz in a s4 and Petry as 5 to make a point that we have more than enough cap room.

I highly doubt we are signing TWO 6 million dollar defensemen - in which we need the cap space.

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#44 JuanOxmano
June 24 2014, 09:54AM
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What's Gangers excuse going to be this year? I know. Well the reason he sucks this year is because he had to readjust to playing the wing. Give him half the year to prove himself and if he still sucks ship him out.

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#45 Lofty
June 23 2014, 04:34PM
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ThatButthurtOilersFan wrote:

Signing Richards would cause more problems than anything.

Brad wouldn't hurt either.

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#46 Taylor Gang
June 23 2014, 06:46PM
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Oilers have 28+ million in cap space.

Grabovski 5, Kulemin 3.5, Moss 2.5

Shultz 4, Petry 5

Your looking at 20 million, still leaves us with 8 million to upgrade the defence(Nikitin 4, Boychuk 4)

We have more than enough cap to grab Grabo, Kuli and Moss - while upgrading the defense.

Ha! Schultz getting paid 4? Petry getting paid 5?

Schultz' realistic value is about 3.25 imho, Petry I'd peg at 3.75

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#47 madjam
June 23 2014, 08:27PM
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Was the Nikiten trade so called just a media hoax ? Columbus site does not even mention it anywhere , even in their news section .

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#48 Will
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This article all day! I'm glad they are deciding to split Yak and Gagner and create a soft minutes line. It scars me a little that they are going ot look for internal options and drafted players for that. Basically it sounds like they are saying this:

Hall - Nuge - Ebs

Perron - Drafted Center - Gagner

Lander - Arco - Yak

Hendricks - Gordon - Pinnizotto

Gazdic

That is frightening, and will get crushed in this conference.

At the very least could they maybe do

Hall - Nuge - Ebs

Perron - UFACenter - Gagner

Vet big bodies UFA LW - Drafted Center - Yak

Handricks - Gordon - Winnik/ Booth/ Downie. I could live with that.

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#49 nuge2nail
June 23 2014, 05:29PM
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-30- wrote:

Hurricanes expected to add Steve Smith as assistant coach.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=455543

LOL

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Didn't they add one of our GMs this off season as well?

Guess the Canes are making a run at McDavid.

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#50 Spydyr
June 23 2014, 09:26PM
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Craig1981 wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSNYy7oCMG8

Olli Jokinin 6'3" 215lbs.

Its not about intimation its about showing fight. The fact that Eakins, his coach, gave him the 2nd most icetime for centers and his GM gave him a 3 year contract means that he does backcheck. Effort is not an issue. I'm basing this on the contract, his icetime, former player comments on here. Unless you have some basis for your next comment,I will not continue to hijack comment section.

Yes,because Eakins is such an excellent coach and had many other choices at center.The Oilers also have never overpaid a player not once.If you don't think the Gagner contract was a bad move nothing anyone can say will change that.

If you have any hockey sense and watch the games you would have seen Gagner's man scoring game in and game out as he floated uselessly in his own zone.Your arguments are weak.

You over value all Oiler players,coaches and management..

They have missed the playoffs for right years for a reason.That just does not happen it takes an effort to fail that bad.

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