DRAFT DAY SCENARIO: COULD THIS HAPPEN?

Lowetide
June 24 2014 10:53AM

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It's draft week, and that means up is down, left is right and right is wrong, and you better decide which side you're on. Rumors about William Nylander or Nick Ritchie drawing into the top five, about Vancouver and Winnipeg and Toronto trading up—it's madness!

Into this Poe spring I'd like to throw out some verse about the Edmonton Oilers. Let's roll.

WHAT IF...

My scenario begins with the Sam's going 1-2. It doesn't matter the order for our purposes, but let's assume it's Reinhart and then Bennett. Edmonton, drafting third would have their pick of giants:

  • Aaron Ekblad, the man caught in a body the approximate age of One Direction.
  • Leon Draisaitl, whose nickname appears to be Dangler, but he's making it work.

In that scenario, which player do you take? I'm leaning toward the dangler, but Ekblad could be a 15-year defenseman playing 20+ minutes a night and keeping the opponents honest and popping 10 a year on the power play. Sheldon Souray, but more mobile. That has value.

For the sake of this morning, let's say Edmonton takes Ekblad, and then Calgary—still a little zonked from the flight in to Philly—decide they're smarter than everyone and takes Nick Ritchie.

You KNOW Garth Snow wants to make a deal. You KNOW he wants a winger for his team because that pick he gave to Buffalo can't be No. 1-5.

Question: do you trade what it takes to get No. 5 and take the German?

WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE?

I imagine you'd have to give a combination of assets, central being an NHL winger of note. Whether that's Perron or Yakupov (oh stop, we're just talking here) or even Samwise Gagner is open to question. The Oilers have some other things:

  • Young defensemen
  • Next year's first-round selection

YOU'RE GOING THE WRONG WAY

Totally get that line of thinking. Why in hell would you do this?

Because the Oilers are weak sauce up the middle and could solve it (or really help) in one day. It has a certain appeal. Also, the new GM would be putting his stamp on the team in a major way. Don't discount that, it's kind of an important detail. 

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WHAT WOULD IT ALL MEAN?

This is the week you can skip from rumor to rumor, but this isn't one. We're just blue-skying on a bright sunny day.

What does making this deal mean? You know what it means? It means bankruptcy and scandal and prison! Sorry wrong speech. It means two things:

  • the cluster's age is moved back once again
  • the Oilers are finally future strong up the middle. 

Pick your poison.



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#1 Ryan
June 24 2014, 10:57AM
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Sure, the oilers could trade for futures every year. Clearly the idea of 'future potential' is much more valuable in oiler land than the idea of 'winning a cup'

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#2 A-Mc
June 24 2014, 10:59AM
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I've entertained the idea of getting both Ekblad and Draisaitl, but the player going out is not perron. In my mind it has to be Yak or Gagner, but that is likely because these 2 guys had terrible seasons last year.

Also, if i'm moving anyone, i better be 100% certain i'm getting the 2 guys i want. If its only for a chance that Draisaitl drops to #5, then i don't touch this.

At this point i think it's more likely that Ekblad and Draisaitl go #1/2 overall and then we're left with neither one.

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#3 ralph_u
June 24 2014, 11:07AM
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Great reference to "It's a wonderful life". Seriously I'd think that would be an epic draft day.

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#4 BLAKPOO
June 24 2014, 11:07AM
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Ryan wrote:

Sure, the oilers could trade for futures every year. Clearly the idea of 'future potential' is much more valuable in oiler land than the idea of 'winning a cup'

I don't understand why people think we need to sacrifice the future to improve the present, or vice versa.

I'm pretty sure you can try to be as successful as you can in the draft, while also pursuing players that can impact the present team.

You don't have to throw all of your eggs in one basket.

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#5 RomZ
June 24 2014, 11:08AM
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The more I think about it, the more it makes sense to draft a center. As nice as it would be to have a future pairing of Nurse/Ekblad, it would be just as enticing if not better to have a One-Two punch of Nuge and Draisaitl down the middle.

We Don't have any impact forward prospects in the pipeline, and we have many D prospects on the bubble. Draisaitl fits the bill of organizational need while simultaneously fulfilling the best player available to us at the #3 spot.

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#6 A-Mc
June 24 2014, 11:11AM
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RomZ wrote:

The more I think about it, the more it makes sense to draft a center. As nice as it would be to have a future pairing of Nurse/Ekblad, it would be just as enticing if not better to have a One-Two punch of Nuge and Draisaitl down the middle.

We Don't have any impact forward prospects in the pipeline, and we have many D prospects on the bubble. Draisaitl fits the bill of organizational need while simultaneously fulfilling the best player available to us at the #3 spot.

I tend to agree with this. up until recently i was always: Ekblad FOR SURE if he's available..

But a Centerman would quite likely help the team almost immediately (even if rushing isn't the best plan of action).

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#7 Racki
June 24 2014, 11:12AM
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I posed this scenario and asked this very question on your blog yesterday. I would definitely offer up a good piece to make that happen. I kind of wonder how hard it would be to pry pick 2 out of Buffalo vs 5 out of NYI. Pick 5 should be easier, but I'm not sure. I'd move a player like yakupov to make this work. I'm not sure what the ask from either team would be though.

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#8 Maurey
June 24 2014, 11:13AM
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Uncle Allan, you silly stupid old fool! One of us is going to jail; well, it's not gonna be me!

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#9 RomZ
June 24 2014, 11:16AM
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A-Mc wrote:

I tend to agree with this. up until recently i was always: Ekblad FOR SURE if he's available..

But a Centerman would quite likely help the team almost immediately (even if rushing isn't the best plan of action).

I am with you I was on the Ekblad bandwagon at first. I just hope if they do take one of the centers that they will get sent back down to junior, even if that means we have to suffer through another horrendous season. It is time we stop rushing our draft picks into front line duty.

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#10 backup bob
June 24 2014, 11:18AM
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Oilers keep their #3 pick, select Bennett and go away quietly.

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#12 TonyT
June 24 2014, 11:20AM
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Ryan wrote:

Sure, the oilers could trade for futures every year. Clearly the idea of 'future potential' is much more valuable in oiler land than the idea of 'winning a cup'

"future potential" as opposed to current incompetence?

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#13 Bob Cobb
June 24 2014, 11:20AM
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You're taking Draisitl over Ekblad if it comes to that? What time is it where you live because 10:53 is too early to be hitting the bottle that hard.

All the talk has been about how the Oilers need D-Men, high end D-Men, that you can't trade for, and you take a forward. I would take Ekblad, let him develop and wait for a top 4 of Ekblad, Nurse, Marincin and Klefbom, toss in Petry and J Schultz and you have a pretty good back end.

You win from building from the goalie out, find a centre in FA this year and go from there, no matter how much you like his nickname.

At the very least you don't let Calgary get there hands on a possible Norris trophy winning D-man down the road.

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#14 RexHolez
June 24 2014, 11:24AM
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The chances of the flames passing up Draisitl is zero to none. Remember, feaster is no longer there.

And the idea of taking Ekblad makes me cry. I can't take anymore of the "patience" speeches we'd get waiting for him. My god, were ready running out of patienc with yak. What would it be like with a defenceman??

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#15 Spydyr
June 24 2014, 11:26AM
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RomZ wrote:

The more I think about it, the more it makes sense to draft a center. As nice as it would be to have a future pairing of Nurse/Ekblad, it would be just as enticing if not better to have a One-Two punch of Nuge and Draisaitl down the middle.

We Don't have any impact forward prospects in the pipeline, and we have many D prospects on the bubble. Draisaitl fits the bill of organizational need while simultaneously fulfilling the best player available to us at the #3 spot.

Bob McKenzie has Ekblad ranked number one so if he was available at three he would be the BPA.

The Oilers do however have a very bad habit of thinking they are the smartest people in the room.So who knows.

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#16 westcoastoil
June 24 2014, 11:26AM
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Bob Cobb wrote:

You're taking Draisitl over Ekblad if it comes to that? What time is it where you live because 10:53 is too early to be hitting the bottle that hard.

All the talk has been about how the Oilers need D-Men, high end D-Men, that you can't trade for, and you take a forward. I would take Ekblad, let him develop and wait for a top 4 of Ekblad, Nurse, Marincin and Klefbom, toss in Petry and J Schultz and you have a pretty good back end.

You win from building from the goalie out, find a centre in FA this year and go from there, no matter how much you like his nickname.

At the very least you don't let Calgary get there hands on a possible Norris trophy winning D-man down the road.

Or because the 2 players are so close you draft for need knowing that you have Marincin, Nurse, Schultz, Klefbom, Petry with Simpson, and co. coming up from behind. Having no Cs and facing a steady diet of Monahan and Draisaitl for the next 10 years is also unappealing.

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#17 Jason
June 24 2014, 11:26AM
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Remember the draft where they grabbed Taylor Hall? Remember Fowler sitting there nearly in tears as his name wasn't called out 3rd, 4th, 10th... until Anaheim finally took him (17th I think but I'm not that sure). That's the year that the Oilers should have made a trade to add a top ten pick (they're still waiting to see if they really got something for the first pick in the 2nd round or not). This year this team needs steadier defence than an 18 - 19 yr old kid is going to give them. I know Oilers brass has made an art of 'playing the long game', but no matter how good Ekblad will be in 5 years, I would rather see the Oilers concentrate on adding players that will help before the new arena's built.

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#18 Danger Pay
June 24 2014, 11:28AM
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Draft Ekblad and over pay either Grabovski or Ott, or both; over the summer. The Oilers have cap space, what ever you do, do not trade next year's #1.

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#19 jason
June 24 2014, 11:29AM
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TonyT wrote:

"future potential" as opposed to current incompetence?

In light of current incompetence, future potential is the only thing people really want to talk about.

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#20 Spydyr
June 24 2014, 11:30AM
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RexHolez wrote:

The chances of the flames passing up Draisitl is zero to none. Remember, feaster is no longer there.

And the idea of taking Ekblad makes me cry. I can't take anymore of the "patience" speeches we'd get waiting for him. My god, were ready running out of patienc with yak. What would it be like with a defenceman??

Yeah ,waiting those few years for Pietrangelo to become one of the top defencman in the NHL must have be awful for St.Louis.

Th Oilers are not going to challenge next year.Instead of quick fixes wait and build a contender.If things all fall into place it still may happen.After this much suffering it would be a shame to waste it on bad moves trying to speed things up.

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#21 Bar_Qu
June 24 2014, 11:30AM
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How do you know which way I'm going?

;-)

I love that scenario the way I love that movie. Make it so.

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#22 mayorblaine
June 24 2014, 11:31AM
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honest question - next year if Mr. Draisaitl has a less than impressive first year (should he make the team, but based on history - yes)do we consider him an option for trading up or down the following draft?

i like Yak. in hindsight i *think i like Murray better. Yak still has tremendous upside and is worth more than another pick imo. ride him out.

Ekblad or bust. or not. or maybe. i don't know.

*thinking is not my strong suit.

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#23 YakCity1024
June 24 2014, 11:32AM
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I want Ekblad, but the thought of having a RNH - Draisaitl - Yakimov 1-2-3 punch down the middle is SOOOOOO tempting. Make a trade with the Islanders for that 5th pick and get BOTH Ekblad and Draisaitl!!

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#24 Will
June 24 2014, 11:33AM
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RomZ wrote:

The more I think about it, the more it makes sense to draft a center. As nice as it would be to have a future pairing of Nurse/Ekblad, it would be just as enticing if not better to have a One-Two punch of Nuge and Draisaitl down the middle.

We Don't have any impact forward prospects in the pipeline, and we have many D prospects on the bubble. Draisaitl fits the bill of organizational need while simultaneously fulfilling the best player available to us at the #3 spot.

I think as Oilers fans, we're all used to at least getting a shiny new toy as reward for being good little paying fans all year. I remember being bummed we missed out on Monahan by one pick as he was great last year. But then, you realize he only got 35 points and really wasn't that effective. Nurse filled a far larger need for the team.

To fans, then, not getting Ekblad means we might be getting a player that shouldn't make the jump to the NHL right away. Ekblad, being too young to go to the AHL would either have to stay in junior, or make the jump to the NHL.

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#25 madjam
June 24 2014, 11:40AM
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If you have a choice you have to choose Ekblad , as he could readily be a franchise stud defenceman for many a year to come . He is what this draft is all about . Draisaitl is simply a more risky choice . I would think it much more difficult to get a star defenceman than a 1-2 centerman thru other means . We need to shore up goals against , as our biggest priority for now .

I think Calgary would pass on Ritchie , and take Dal Colle or J.Virtanen .

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#26 RexHolez
June 24 2014, 11:40AM
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Spydyr wrote:

Yeah ,waiting those few years for Pietrangelo to become one of the top defencman in the NHL must have be awful for St.Louis.

Th Oilers are not going to challenge next year.Instead of quick fixes wait and build a contender.If things all fall into place it still may happen.After this much suffering it would be a shame to waste it on bad moves trying to speed things up.

Not only do defenceman take longer, but they're also a higher percentage of busts. It's not worth it in my mind. The chances of him becoming pietrangelo are less likely then him becoming barker

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#27 HarryQuads
June 24 2014, 11:41AM
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If Ekblad is still there at #3, I would get on the horn with Philly and talk trade, as I know they want this guy BAD!! Philly wants to make a hometown splash. The principles involved would be Couturier & Coburn coming our way & #3 pick + something else going to Philly. (Rough framework)

This would help solve 2 issues of need. It'd be like getting 2 birds stoned at once!! 2 players that are NHL ready!!

Do you make this deal if available?

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#28 RomZ
June 24 2014, 11:44AM
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Spydyr wrote:

Bob McKenzie has Ekblad ranked number one so if he was available at three he would be the BPA.

The Oilers do however have a very bad habit of thinking they are the smartest people in the room.So who knows.

You are correct. I just don't see Ekblad falling to us, but stranger things have happened. Jones, Larsson, and Cam Fowler all dropped in their respective years. It would be a good problem to have. I personally would still lean towards are center.

Luckily for us, Calgary for the longest time also have this 'smarter than everyone else' mentality. Seems those days are now all but over under the Burke regime.

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#29 Spydyr
June 24 2014, 11:44AM
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HarryQuads wrote:

If Ekblad is still there at #3, I would get on the horn with Philly and talk trade, as I know they want this guy BAD!! Philly wants to make a hometown splash. The principles involved would be Couturier & Coburn coming our way & #3 pick + something else going to Philly. (Rough framework)

This would help solve 2 issues of need. It'd be like getting 2 birds stoned at once!! 2 players that are NHL ready!!

Do you make this deal if available?

Coburn is 29 and not a top pairing guy IMO.I don't get why so many people want him so bad.Couturier would be nice but not for the third pick.

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#30 RomZ
June 24 2014, 11:46AM
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Will wrote:

I think as Oilers fans, we're all used to at least getting a shiny new toy as reward for being good little paying fans all year. I remember being bummed we missed out on Monahan by one pick as he was great last year. But then, you realize he only got 35 points and really wasn't that effective. Nurse filled a far larger need for the team.

To fans, then, not getting Ekblad means we might be getting a player that shouldn't make the jump to the NHL right away. Ekblad, being too young to go to the AHL would either have to stay in junior, or make the jump to the NHL.

To be fair, I am a proponent of sending Draisaitl back to junior despite how he shows in camp.

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#31 Oil Can
June 24 2014, 11:47AM
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Racki wrote:

I posed this scenario and asked this very question on your blog yesterday. I would definitely offer up a good piece to make that happen. I kind of wonder how hard it would be to pry pick 2 out of Buffalo vs 5 out of NYI. Pick 5 should be easier, but I'm not sure. I'd move a player like yakupov to make this work. I'm not sure what the ask from either team would be though.

I agree with you that the real target should be Buffalo, if Ekblad does not go first. Buffalo already has two first round selections for 2015 so offer them straight up our first in 2015 for their first ( second over all ) this year and then take the right shooting defenceman and the centre, and don't look back.

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#32 Rama Lama
June 24 2014, 11:48AM
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There are gonna be some big deals, but I suspect Edmonton will not be participating. My reason for this is all teams are trying to hit a home run, and we do not have any chips ( worth anything ) that other teams covet, except maybe the fab five.

Since we are not trading any of the fab five, I say we keep what we got and draft either Ekblad or Drisiatle. Overpay for a UFA to solve our problem down the middle and hope for the best. Not having any second or third round draft choices will hamper our ability to pull off meaningful trades so it's no use expecting a big deal to be made.

Next year is the generational draft so I'm hoping Mac T finds some way to get another second rounder if not a first??

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#33 pelhem grenville
June 24 2014, 11:49AM
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...draft Draisaitl

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#34 Dman09
June 24 2014, 11:49AM
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The only thing that I can think right now is what is it that NYI really wants, yak is an over pay. Gags + Gernat + a pick would make sense to me maybe another prospect or pick if needed but any move that makes the team take a step back should be refused.

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#35 Jeffff
June 24 2014, 11:49AM
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If Ekblad is available at #3 you take him . If Leon D is available at #5 you trade for NYI 5th pick.

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#36 jeremy
June 24 2014, 11:51AM
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Jason wrote:

Remember the draft where they grabbed Taylor Hall? Remember Fowler sitting there nearly in tears as his name wasn't called out 3rd, 4th, 10th... until Anaheim finally took him (17th I think but I'm not that sure). That's the year that the Oilers should have made a trade to add a top ten pick (they're still waiting to see if they really got something for the first pick in the 2nd round or not). This year this team needs steadier defence than an 18 - 19 yr old kid is going to give them. I know Oilers brass has made an art of 'playing the long game', but no matter how good Ekblad will be in 5 years, I would rather see the Oilers concentrate on adding players that will help before the new arena's built.

Ok armchair tell me who would they have traded to get into the top 10

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#37 RexHolez
June 24 2014, 11:51AM
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@HarryQuads

I'm all over that deal! In a heartbeat

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#38 Ryan
June 24 2014, 11:55AM
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@BLAKPOO

Of course. What I am saying is that when the sting of a ten game losing streak is at maximum effect, everybody jumps on the bandwagon of 'we need NHL players NOW!'. Then when the season is over, it slowly turns back to 'Look at all the awesome players we can draft, let's do that instead!'. The oilers are a team that have thrown all of their eggs in one basket, by drafting essentially the same player for the last 5 years. So why would we trade players we were actually successful in acquiring to get players with uncertain futures? It's not like this is an unbelievable draft class where teams will be falling over themselves to get a spot in the top 10... I want the oilers to put all their eggs in the 'get NHL players basket'. I'm sorry but with the oilers development history, there is a strong chance that the players we get in this draft won't make it to 100 games, and eventually be run out of town... We need useful, proven NHL players. It would also be nice to have a useful, proven NHL coach and a useful, proven NHL GM. I guess you can't have everything.

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#39 Kev
June 24 2014, 11:55AM
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Oilers need a Centre more than they need a D-man. That said If Ekblad is available at # 3 you take the BPA. If it is close between the BPA then you choose organizational needs.

So the question would be how much better is Ekblad vs. Draisaitl or the other way.

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#40 Spydyr
June 24 2014, 11:58AM
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RomZ wrote:

To be fair, I am a proponent of sending Draisaitl back to junior despite how he shows in camp.

I am a proponent of letting players earn their jobs in camp.Instead of preordaining your team.If any player shows well in camp give him his 9 games or less.If he is not shooting the lights out after that and I mean doing very,very well send him back for more seasoning.

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#41 pelhem grenville
June 24 2014, 11:59AM
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"...Oilers need a Centre more than they need a D-man..."

Kev ... having said that

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#42 vetinari
June 24 2014, 12:00PM
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If the Oilers somehow got a pair of picks in this year's draft in the top 5 and could land Ekblad and one of the centers as a result, that would be bold. However, that would also mean a lot of youth in the lineup that would be better served being sent back to junior instead in 2014/15 and a sure fire date for a first row seat at the 2015 draft.

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#43 Air on Egg blood
June 24 2014, 12:03PM
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If both are available, you run to the podium and take Ekblad. Plain and simple. Then, you package one of Klefbom or Marincin with some other valuable asset and send it to Philly for Sean Couturier.

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#44 freelancer
June 24 2014, 12:07PM
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If Ek is available you take him. Having said that the need to develop centers is also incredibly great. I don't want any trade for a second top 5 pick that involves Yak though. We are past the point of taking a step backwards and hoping that will take us two steps forward in the future.

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#45 backup bob
June 24 2014, 12:10PM
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Maurey wrote:

Uncle Allan, you silly stupid old fool! One of us is going to jail; well, it's not gonna be me!

Uncle Allan is on vacation.

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#46 v4ance
June 24 2014, 12:12PM
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If the scenario you've laid out happens, I'd trade Gagner and any defenceman not named Klefbom, Marincin, Nurse, or Petry.

If they wanted Gagner +Schultz or +Ference, NYI would have to even up the deal with something else coming back. Any other D would pretty much complete the deal for #5

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#47 Will
June 24 2014, 12:14PM
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RomZ wrote:

To be fair, I am a proponent of sending Draisaitl back to junior despite how he shows in camp.

Oh for sure, I wasn't including you in that, just Oiler fans in general, myself included. Just explaining why all this seemingly outcry to try and get Ekblad at the draft, even though at number 3 this might be the first can't miss draft for the Oilers.

In past years there has always been controversy on who to take, and endless debates on if they took the right guy, or unimaginable scenarios where if we could have only done x or y to trade for pick a or b, yadda yadda.

But God forbid the Oilers go 2 years in a row of drafting the exact type of player they need, only problem is they will take a year or two to develop, you know, like how the draft works for the rest of the NHL.

I truly hope they draft the big German, let him develop for two years. I know the rest of the league knocks Edmonton for stockpiling high end draft picks. But with just a slight amount of patience and development, in two years time the team will have one of the biggest, most talented, deepest D core in the league, matched by a group of three forwards who by then might become one of the best top lines, flanked by an endless number of potential top flight prospects like Chase, Yakimov, Draisaitl. Not to mention the established talent like Perron, Gagner, and Yak.

But rushing these kids is only going to sink their careers before they even begin.

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#48 pelhem grenville
June 24 2014, 12:16PM
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vetinari wrote:

If the Oilers somehow got a pair of picks in this year's draft in the top 5 and could land Ekblad and one of the centers as a result, that would be bold. However, that would also mean a lot of youth in the lineup that would be better served being sent back to junior instead in 2014/15 and a sure fire date for a first row seat at the 2015 draft.

MacT would need to break out the orchidometer if he EVER thinks he can pull off two of the top five in this years draft ... most likely he'd have to give up one of the golden children and that IS getting more youth than the youth the oilers already have and then there's Yak trade value for sure ...

if the oilers draft Draisaitl that's mission accomplished ...

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#49 Harry
June 24 2014, 12:18PM
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ralph_u wrote:

Great reference to "It's a wonderful life". Seriously I'd think that would be an epic draft day.

So your saying in that scenario it would be a "long" draft day. So beyond tired of that word being used. EPIC. It means LONG.

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June 24 2014, 12:21PM
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The problem with trading Yak for Draisaitl is that they are a perfect fit for each other, and so you should want both.

Drafting Draisaitl rejuvenates Yak and complements Draisaitl, effectively giving you 2 high end forwards.

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