DRAFT DAY SCENARIO: COULD THIS HAPPEN?

Lowetide
June 24 2014 10:53AM

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It's draft week, and that means up is down, left is right and right is wrong, and you better decide which side you're on. Rumors about William Nylander or Nick Ritchie drawing into the top five, about Vancouver and Winnipeg and Toronto trading up—it's madness!

Into this Poe spring I'd like to throw out some verse about the Edmonton Oilers. Let's roll.

WHAT IF...

My scenario begins with the Sam's going 1-2. It doesn't matter the order for our purposes, but let's assume it's Reinhart and then Bennett. Edmonton, drafting third would have their pick of giants:

  • Aaron Ekblad, the man caught in a body the approximate age of One Direction.
  • Leon Draisaitl, whose nickname appears to be Dangler, but he's making it work.

In that scenario, which player do you take? I'm leaning toward the dangler, but Ekblad could be a 15-year defenseman playing 20+ minutes a night and keeping the opponents honest and popping 10 a year on the power play. Sheldon Souray, but more mobile. That has value.

For the sake of this morning, let's say Edmonton takes Ekblad, and then Calgary—still a little zonked from the flight in to Philly—decide they're smarter than everyone and takes Nick Ritchie.

You KNOW Garth Snow wants to make a deal. You KNOW he wants a winger for his team because that pick he gave to Buffalo can't be No. 1-5.

Question: do you trade what it takes to get No. 5 and take the German?

WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE?

I imagine you'd have to give a combination of assets, central being an NHL winger of note. Whether that's Perron or Yakupov (oh stop, we're just talking here) or even Samwise Gagner is open to question. The Oilers have some other things:

  • Young defensemen
  • Next year's first-round selection

YOU'RE GOING THE WRONG WAY

Totally get that line of thinking. Why in hell would you do this?

Because the Oilers are weak sauce up the middle and could solve it (or really help) in one day. It has a certain appeal. Also, the new GM would be putting his stamp on the team in a major way. Don't discount that, it's kind of an important detail. 

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WHAT WOULD IT ALL MEAN?

This is the week you can skip from rumor to rumor, but this isn't one. We're just blue-skying on a bright sunny day.

What does making this deal mean? You know what it means? It means bankruptcy and scandal and prison! Sorry wrong speech. It means two things:

  • the cluster's age is moved back once again
  • the Oilers are finally future strong up the middle. 

Pick your poison.



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#1 the finn
June 24 2014, 12:41PM
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I think like this:

Trade this years first pick for something that will make an impact right off the blocks.

Go for Brand Richards and Boyle out of NYR as centres, gives you size and grit for 2nd and 3rd line.

Give NYR the 1st round pick and Lander

From NYR Richards and Boyle + their 2014 2nd round pick.

The 2015 draft is important, this year not so as it's not a very deep draft year.

I like Stralman in NYR as well but it might not be possible to get him, but if one could get him and Nikitin as D-men I would say you have improved the team big time.

If Stralman ends up as free agent offer him a 3-5 year deal in the range of 2,5-3,5 million a year depending contract length, with a bonus clause as well. He is looking for stability for the family and that is what you have to satisfy than to get the best out of him.

Nikitin can also be signed long term as he is not too old yet and should be good for at least a 3 year contract.

Will give you to guys that can pass the puck and Stralman is a good shut down player as well.It will also buy you time to get the young d-men prospects to get the time needed in AHL to develop + a good trade seat down the line when the "young guys" is ready to take the step full time. Want buy you a Stanley Cup in two years but it will get you to the play offs rather quick.

There will still be salary cap left after this and trade value left as well to go for something real big if the opportunity would show.

My 5 cent worth of thoughts that is

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#2 Ryan
June 24 2014, 10:57AM
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Sure, the oilers could trade for futures every year. Clearly the idea of 'future potential' is much more valuable in oiler land than the idea of 'winning a cup'

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#3 RexHolez
June 24 2014, 12:29PM
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@oilerjed

Isn't it funny that our third overall pick could probably get us an established 1st pairing dman like phaneuf, and Ekblad might never even turn out to be as good as him.

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#4 backup bob
June 24 2014, 11:18AM
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Oilers keep their #3 pick, select Bennett and go away quietly.

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#5 Bob Cob
June 24 2014, 11:20AM
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You're taking Draisitl over Ekblad if it comes to that? What time is it where you live because 10:53 is too early to be hitting the bottle that hard.

All the talk has been about how the Oilers need D-Men, high end D-Men, that you can't trade for, and you take a forward. I would take Ekblad, let him develop and wait for a top 4 of Ekblad, Nurse, Marincin and Klefbom, toss in Petry and J Schultz and you have a pretty good back end.

You win from building from the goalie out, find a centre in FA this year and go from there, no matter how much you like his nickname.

At the very least you don't let Calgary get there hands on a possible Norris trophy winning D-man down the road.

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#6 Air on Egg blood
June 24 2014, 12:03PM
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If both are available, you run to the podium and take Ekblad. Plain and simple. Then, you package one of Klefbom or Marincin with some other valuable asset and send it to Philly for Sean Couturier.

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#7 Will
June 24 2014, 12:34PM
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Numenius wrote:

The problem with trading Yak for Draisaitl is that they are a perfect fit for each other, and so you should want both.

Drafting Draisaitl rejuvenates Yak and complements Draisaitl, effectively giving you 2 high end forwards.

I agree, that is the makings of one hell of a line.

I know we all squee over the Hall Nuge and Ebs line. But Yak went first overall for a reason. The kid tied for lead in rookie scoring his first season in fewer games. Imagine Leon in 2 years, even bigger and more skilled, dishing the puck to Yak after 3 seasons in the NHL.

I still say Mac T should see how little he could pay Heatly to play on a third line with these two kids. That would be a big, skilled line.

Just my opinion, I already know not a single person for some reason wants to put a 6"4 220 lbs 33 year old NHL vet with 791 points in 863 games, who would likely sign for 2 mill because no one wants him, and might just be mature enough now to not have an attitude.

So, because there is no interest in Heatly, why not Penner. He's not physical but he can protect a puck and put up points. His style of play might be really good paired with the big german centre who can do the same. And again, cheap.

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#8 A-Mc
June 24 2014, 10:59AM
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I've entertained the idea of getting both Ekblad and Draisaitl, but the player going out is not perron. In my mind it has to be Yak or Gagner, but that is likely because these 2 guys had terrible seasons last year.

Also, if i'm moving anyone, i better be 100% certain i'm getting the 2 guys i want. If its only for a chance that Draisaitl drops to #5, then i don't touch this.

At this point i think it's more likely that Ekblad and Draisaitl go #1/2 overall and then we're left with neither one.

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#9 Danger Pay
June 24 2014, 11:28AM
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Draft Ekblad and over pay either Grabovski or Ott, or both; over the summer. The Oilers have cap space, what ever you do, do not trade next year's #1.

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#10 RexHolez
June 24 2014, 11:24AM
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The chances of the flames passing up Draisitl is zero to none. Remember, feaster is no longer there.

And the idea of taking Ekblad makes me cry. I can't take anymore of the "patience" speeches we'd get waiting for him. My god, were ready running out of patienc with yak. What would it be like with a defenceman??

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#11 madjam
June 24 2014, 11:40AM
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If you have a choice you have to choose Ekblad , as he could readily be a franchise stud defenceman for many a year to come . He is what this draft is all about . Draisaitl is simply a more risky choice . I would think it much more difficult to get a star defenceman than a 1-2 centerman thru other means . We need to shore up goals against , as our biggest priority for now .

I think Calgary would pass on Ritchie , and take Dal Colle or J.Virtanen .

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#12 Racki
June 24 2014, 11:12AM
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I posed this scenario and asked this very question on your blog yesterday. I would definitely offer up a good piece to make that happen. I kind of wonder how hard it would be to pry pick 2 out of Buffalo vs 5 out of NYI. Pick 5 should be easier, but I'm not sure. I'd move a player like yakupov to make this work. I'm not sure what the ask from either team would be though.

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#13 HarryQuads
June 24 2014, 11:41AM
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If Ekblad is still there at #3, I would get on the horn with Philly and talk trade, as I know they want this guy BAD!! Philly wants to make a hometown splash. The principles involved would be Couturier & Coburn coming our way & #3 pick + something else going to Philly. (Rough framework)

This would help solve 2 issues of need. It'd be like getting 2 birds stoned at once!! 2 players that are NHL ready!!

Do you make this deal if available?

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#14 Quicksilver ballet
June 24 2014, 04:13PM
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@Harry

With the playoffs 3 or 4 yrs away, you think Perron is going to wait for the Oilers to get their ship together?

He's one season away from becoming a rental/another Hemsky. He's worth something to a contending team, and he's not going to re-sign here. Get what you can for him soon.

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#15 RexHolez
June 24 2014, 11:40AM
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Spydyr wrote:

Yeah ,waiting those few years for Pietrangelo to become one of the top defencman in the NHL must have be awful for St.Louis.

Th Oilers are not going to challenge next year.Instead of quick fixes wait and build a contender.If things all fall into place it still may happen.After this much suffering it would be a shame to waste it on bad moves trying to speed things up.

Not only do defenceman take longer, but they're also a higher percentage of busts. It's not worth it in my mind. The chances of him becoming pietrangelo are less likely then him becoming barker

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#16 TonyT
June 24 2014, 11:20AM
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Ryan wrote:

Sure, the oilers could trade for futures every year. Clearly the idea of 'future potential' is much more valuable in oiler land than the idea of 'winning a cup'

"future potential" as opposed to current incompetence?

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#17 YakCity1024
June 24 2014, 11:32AM
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I want Ekblad, but the thought of having a RNH - Draisaitl - Yakimov 1-2-3 punch down the middle is SOOOOOO tempting. Make a trade with the Islanders for that 5th pick and get BOTH Ekblad and Draisaitl!!

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#18 wintoon
June 24 2014, 12:30PM
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I absolutely support the concept of acquiring the #5 pick in addition to the #3 pick we already have. Furthermore, the scenario of getting both Draisaitl and Ekblad would be great.

However if we have the #3 and #5 pick and have given up Perron for the #5, then even if Calgary drafts Ekblad or Draisaitl in the #4 slot, we still have the opportunity to end up with either Draisaitl or Ekblad plus either Dal Colle or Virtanen. Either option is appealing as we would either plug two gaping holes with Draisaitl #2C and Ekblad #1 or #2 D or alternatively reconfiguring our top 6 forwards by adding size and more scoring punch (Dal Colle or Virtanen).

Either scenario sees the Oilers as being a much tougher group to play against while having further increased the talent level. The key is that Perron is probably at the highest level he ever will be in terms of value to the NYIs. He is a left winger with some grit who could fit very nicely with Tavares and Okoposo.

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#19 Walter Sobchak
June 24 2014, 03:05PM
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Harry wrote:

Ill never understand the trade Perron argument. He is completely different than any other top 9 fwd the oilers have. He has a very good contract. And your trading him for Dal Colle!!??

I'll tell you why.

VALUE!! He has it, is also on a short contract despite being a nice contract, what do you think the chances of the Oilers resigning him and what does the cap look like in two years with the Oilers overpaying NOW for UFA's and bottom six players?

Not to mention the Oilers have an abundance of wingers. That's why.

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#20 A-Mc
June 24 2014, 11:11AM
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RomZ wrote:

The more I think about it, the more it makes sense to draft a center. As nice as it would be to have a future pairing of Nurse/Ekblad, it would be just as enticing if not better to have a One-Two punch of Nuge and Draisaitl down the middle.

We Don't have any impact forward prospects in the pipeline, and we have many D prospects on the bubble. Draisaitl fits the bill of organizational need while simultaneously fulfilling the best player available to us at the #3 spot.

I tend to agree with this. up until recently i was always: Ekblad FOR SURE if he's available..

But a Centerman would quite likely help the team almost immediately (even if rushing isn't the best plan of action).

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#21 Spydyr
June 24 2014, 11:26AM
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RomZ wrote:

The more I think about it, the more it makes sense to draft a center. As nice as it would be to have a future pairing of Nurse/Ekblad, it would be just as enticing if not better to have a One-Two punch of Nuge and Draisaitl down the middle.

We Don't have any impact forward prospects in the pipeline, and we have many D prospects on the bubble. Draisaitl fits the bill of organizational need while simultaneously fulfilling the best player available to us at the #3 spot.

Bob McKenzie has Ekblad ranked number one so if he was available at three he would be the BPA.

The Oilers do however have a very bad habit of thinking they are the smartest people in the room.So who knows.

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#22 mayorblaine
June 24 2014, 11:31AM
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honest question - next year if Mr. Draisaitl has a less than impressive first year (should he make the team, but based on history - yes)do we consider him an option for trading up or down the following draft?

i like Yak. in hindsight i *think i like Murray better. Yak still has tremendous upside and is worth more than another pick imo. ride him out.

Ekblad or bust. or not. or maybe. i don't know.

*thinking is not my strong suit.

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#23 Jeffff
June 24 2014, 11:49AM
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If Ekblad is available at #3 you take him . If Leon D is available at #5 you trade for NYI 5th pick.

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#24 v4ance
June 24 2014, 12:12PM
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If the scenario you've laid out happens, I'd trade Gagner and any defenceman not named Klefbom, Marincin, Nurse, or Petry.

If they wanted Gagner +Schultz or +Ference, NYI would have to even up the deal with something else coming back. Any other D would pretty much complete the deal for #5

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#25 kdunbar
June 24 2014, 01:16PM
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misfit wrote:

If Florida and Buffalo remain at #1 and #2, then I could see a situation where Ekblad is available at #3. If Florida moves their pick, I would imagine Ekblad is gone by 3 (yeah, I know Van wants Reinhart).

So if we have the choice between Ekblad and Draisaitl, then I can't see any way we don't take the defenseman. I think Draisaitl fills a bigger need, but Ekblad is just too much to pass on.

IF Draisaitl is sitting at 5 and the Islanders are open to moving the pick, I'd be all over such a move. If Yakupov is the target, I'd need more than the #5 soming back. Perron would be on the table (begrudgingly), as would Gagner, but I doubt either gets it on their own. And while our young D have value in a trade, they'd probably do little to help the Islanders' need for the "here and now".

As much as I like the idea of adding both Ekblad and Draisaitl, I'm not a fan of making our on-ice product worse for next year. I might just sit tight with Ekblad and use some of our non-roster tradable assets you mentioned to add a top 6 forward or two if the cost to acquire the #5 is too dear.

These are my exact thoughts and worth repeating.

I would even consider to offer Gagner, OKC D prospect and the 2015 first for Josh Baily and the #5.

Not sure I want to give up the 2015 first though as I do not see us making the play-offs.

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#26 Walter Sobchak
June 24 2014, 03:07PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

Welcome to the dark side Allan, even though you're just visiting. This should've been the chosen route starting 4 yrs ago. In with entry level players, out with underperforming overpaid veterans.

This rebuild is obviously failing while they sit idly by taking the minimum due to them every summer. They would've been further ahead aggressively going after a second lotto pick instead of chasing players who'd never come here to begin with, unless they're forced to. The need A type players to come in. The current state has even the B and C level guys staying away on mass.

The patience wearing thin thing. It's pure rubbish. Screw the fans that grow impatient, someone else will take their place in a heartbeat. Their input is irrelevant with the way things are being done. They'll buy anything no matter how bad it is, and them complain the portion size is too small.

AMEN brother!

Remember when Tambellini could have had Seguin & Hall for Hemsky & Eberle as per Oil change.

Stupid, just stupid!

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#27 Quicksilver ballet
June 24 2014, 03:24PM
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Walter Sobchak wrote:

AMEN brother!

Remember when Tambellini could have had Seguin & Hall for Hemsky & Eberle as per Oil change.

Stupid, just stupid!

That Hemsky and Eberle for the second pick in that 2010 draft looks like a bargain now.

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#28 Quicksilver ballet
June 24 2014, 09:28PM
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@Harry

I'm coming at it from a different angle. This rebuild, is like no other rebuild before in the NHL. The Oilers are in a B or even a C market which greatly deters UFA's and even others to come here in a trade. Substandard market and a losing culture, is the norm here now. Till they develop their own "actual NHL players", why would anyone else want to come here? Careers are short enough as it is. Who wants to waste all their RFA years waiting for their team to even become remotely competitive.

The troops aren't coming Harry. Even the B and C free agents are saying no to Edmonton. Last seasons 28th place finish confirms this rebuild is failing badly under this management group. Taking the minimum due to them every summer has come home to roost. This is a good place to start your NHL career, but after you've done your time and are UFA eligible, playing hockey that doesn't matter is the last place players want to be, especially with a lengthy losing culture hockey club.

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#29 Jason
June 24 2014, 11:26AM
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Remember the draft where they grabbed Taylor Hall? Remember Fowler sitting there nearly in tears as his name wasn't called out 3rd, 4th, 10th... until Anaheim finally took him (17th I think but I'm not that sure). That's the year that the Oilers should have made a trade to add a top ten pick (they're still waiting to see if they really got something for the first pick in the 2nd round or not). This year this team needs steadier defence than an 18 - 19 yr old kid is going to give them. I know Oilers brass has made an art of 'playing the long game', but no matter how good Ekblad will be in 5 years, I would rather see the Oilers concentrate on adding players that will help before the new arena's built.

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#30 pelhem grenville
June 24 2014, 11:49AM
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...draft Draisaitl

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#31 oilerjed
June 24 2014, 12:26PM
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Bob Cob wrote:

You're taking Draisitl over Ekblad if it comes to that? What time is it where you live because 10:53 is too early to be hitting the bottle that hard.

All the talk has been about how the Oilers need D-Men, high end D-Men, that you can't trade for, and you take a forward. I would take Ekblad, let him develop and wait for a top 4 of Ekblad, Nurse, Marincin and Klefbom, toss in Petry and J Schultz and you have a pretty good back end.

You win from building from the goalie out, find a centre in FA this year and go from there, no matter how much you like his nickname.

At the very least you don't let Calgary get there hands on a possible Norris trophy winning D-man down the road.

The problem with this scenario is that what if Nurse/Ekblad/Klefbom/Maricin dont ever end up being better the what we have now. Nothing is gauranteed when it comes to developing prospects. So what do we do in 3-4 years when we realize that these are the Dmen of our future like we thought. Start over?? And basing any decisions on what Calgary will get is completely out to lunch. They are getting a good player too no matter what. Why do we care who it is?

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#32 Will
June 24 2014, 12:42PM
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RomZ wrote:

Agreed,

Unfortunately patience is in short order in a city like this. We have too many glaring holes to fix in one season. I think Mac T would be best off trying to collect key pieces over several off seaons just like Lombardi did with the Kings. The playoffs are a pipedream for the current roster.

I think the team can realistically make a 10-15 point improvement, just based off a solid tandem of Scrivens, and Fasth.

Yeah, in the lockout with Kruger, the Oilers finished poor, but at least it wasn't 29th or 30th. It looked like they were at least making strides in the right direction. They could beat any team on any given night that year, even the big ones like the Kings. But then Dubnyk just sunk the world this year. I went to a lot of games in that first month and remember seeing the shot clock was more even, the even strength goals were way better, Ryan Whitney wasn't on the team, our face off wins were better. It just seemed like all the underlying numbers were there. The team would lose by one goal on a score of 6 to 5. Game after game I felt so bad for the forwards as they must have been thinking what more can we possibly do to win, at some point our goalie has to stop a puck.

Some of that falls on Eakins, and lots falls on Dubnyk. So, with a better Tandem, and a better coaching staff, hopefully the team can get its powerplay back on track and enjoy some decent goal tending.

I am not getting my hopes up, as that ship sailed years ago, but I wouldn't be surprised if like Colorado, the Oilers were suddenly good. And all the pundits rushed to try and figure out why. And then they say, oh, wait they have the best LW in the entire league on their team, and hey look at all these other guys.

Goal tending and power play. Those two things could put this team right back in it.

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#33 Quicksilver ballet
June 24 2014, 02:13PM
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Welcome to the dark side Allan, even though you're just visiting. This should've been the chosen route starting 4 yrs ago. In with entry level players, out with underperforming overpaid veterans.

This rebuild is obviously failing while they sit idly by taking the minimum due to them every summer. They would've been further ahead aggressively going after a second lotto pick instead of chasing players who'd never come here to begin with, unless they're forced to. The need A type players to come in. The current state has even the B and C level guys staying away on mass.

The patience wearing thin thing. It's pure rubbish. Screw the fans that grow impatient, someone else will take their place in a heartbeat. Their input is irrelevant with the way things are being done. They'll buy anything no matter how bad it is, and them complain the portion size is too small.

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#34 Harry
June 24 2014, 08:46PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

With the playoffs 3 or 4 yrs away, you think Perron is going to wait for the Oilers to get their ship together?

He's one season away from becoming a rental/another Hemsky. He's worth something to a contending team, and he's not going to re-sign here. Get what you can for him soon.

How are you so sure ge wont resign and that we are 3-4 years away? Do you know Perron? Does he hang out with you after practice? Your rotten negative brain is clouding your terrible judgement in every way. Do yourself a favour and just let it go. Start paying attention again once preseason starts

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#35 RomZ
June 24 2014, 11:08AM
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The more I think about it, the more it makes sense to draft a center. As nice as it would be to have a future pairing of Nurse/Ekblad, it would be just as enticing if not better to have a One-Two punch of Nuge and Draisaitl down the middle.

We Don't have any impact forward prospects in the pipeline, and we have many D prospects on the bubble. Draisaitl fits the bill of organizational need while simultaneously fulfilling the best player available to us at the #3 spot.

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#36 RomZ
June 24 2014, 11:16AM
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A-Mc wrote:

I tend to agree with this. up until recently i was always: Ekblad FOR SURE if he's available..

But a Centerman would quite likely help the team almost immediately (even if rushing isn't the best plan of action).

I am with you I was on the Ekblad bandwagon at first. I just hope if they do take one of the centers that they will get sent back down to junior, even if that means we have to suffer through another horrendous season. It is time we stop rushing our draft picks into front line duty.

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#38 Will
June 24 2014, 11:33AM
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RomZ wrote:

The more I think about it, the more it makes sense to draft a center. As nice as it would be to have a future pairing of Nurse/Ekblad, it would be just as enticing if not better to have a One-Two punch of Nuge and Draisaitl down the middle.

We Don't have any impact forward prospects in the pipeline, and we have many D prospects on the bubble. Draisaitl fits the bill of organizational need while simultaneously fulfilling the best player available to us at the #3 spot.

I think as Oilers fans, we're all used to at least getting a shiny new toy as reward for being good little paying fans all year. I remember being bummed we missed out on Monahan by one pick as he was great last year. But then, you realize he only got 35 points and really wasn't that effective. Nurse filled a far larger need for the team.

To fans, then, not getting Ekblad means we might be getting a player that shouldn't make the jump to the NHL right away. Ekblad, being too young to go to the AHL would either have to stay in junior, or make the jump to the NHL.

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#39 Spydyr
June 24 2014, 11:44AM
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HarryQuads wrote:

If Ekblad is still there at #3, I would get on the horn with Philly and talk trade, as I know they want this guy BAD!! Philly wants to make a hometown splash. The principles involved would be Couturier & Coburn coming our way & #3 pick + something else going to Philly. (Rough framework)

This would help solve 2 issues of need. It'd be like getting 2 birds stoned at once!! 2 players that are NHL ready!!

Do you make this deal if available?

Coburn is 29 and not a top pairing guy IMO.I don't get why so many people want him so bad.Couturier would be nice but not for the third pick.

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#40 Oil Can
June 24 2014, 11:47AM
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Racki wrote:

I posed this scenario and asked this very question on your blog yesterday. I would definitely offer up a good piece to make that happen. I kind of wonder how hard it would be to pry pick 2 out of Buffalo vs 5 out of NYI. Pick 5 should be easier, but I'm not sure. I'd move a player like yakupov to make this work. I'm not sure what the ask from either team would be though.

I agree with you that the real target should be Buffalo, if Ekblad does not go first. Buffalo already has two first round selections for 2015 so offer them straight up our first in 2015 for their first ( second over all ) this year and then take the right shooting defenceman and the centre, and don't look back.

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#41 Dman09
June 24 2014, 11:49AM
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The only thing that I can think right now is what is it that NYI really wants, yak is an over pay. Gags + Gernat + a pick would make sense to me maybe another prospect or pick if needed but any move that makes the team take a step back should be refused.

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#42 Ryan
June 24 2014, 11:55AM
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@BLAKPOO

Of course. What I am saying is that when the sting of a ten game losing streak is at maximum effect, everybody jumps on the bandwagon of 'we need NHL players NOW!'. Then when the season is over, it slowly turns back to 'Look at all the awesome players we can draft, let's do that instead!'. The oilers are a team that have thrown all of their eggs in one basket, by drafting essentially the same player for the last 5 years. So why would we trade players we were actually successful in acquiring to get players with uncertain futures? It's not like this is an unbelievable draft class where teams will be falling over themselves to get a spot in the top 10... I want the oilers to put all their eggs in the 'get NHL players basket'. I'm sorry but with the oilers development history, there is a strong chance that the players we get in this draft won't make it to 100 games, and eventually be run out of town... We need useful, proven NHL players. It would also be nice to have a useful, proven NHL coach and a useful, proven NHL GM. I guess you can't have everything.

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#43 freelancer
June 24 2014, 12:07PM
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If Ek is available you take him. Having said that the need to develop centers is also incredibly great. I don't want any trade for a second top 5 pick that involves Yak though. We are past the point of taking a step backwards and hoping that will take us two steps forward in the future.

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#44 HallFever
June 24 2014, 12:35PM
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Ekblad please and thank you.

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#45 Harry
June 24 2014, 12:35PM
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wintoon wrote:

I absolutely support the concept of acquiring the #5 pick in addition to the #3 pick we already have. Furthermore, the scenario of getting both Draisaitl and Ekblad would be great.

However if we have the #3 and #5 pick and have given up Perron for the #5, then even if Calgary drafts Ekblad or Draisaitl in the #4 slot, we still have the opportunity to end up with either Draisaitl or Ekblad plus either Dal Colle or Virtanen. Either option is appealing as we would either plug two gaping holes with Draisaitl #2C and Ekblad #1 or #2 D or alternatively reconfiguring our top 6 forwards by adding size and more scoring punch (Dal Colle or Virtanen).

Either scenario sees the Oilers as being a much tougher group to play against while having further increased the talent level. The key is that Perron is probably at the highest level he ever will be in terms of value to the NYIs. He is a left winger with some grit who could fit very nicely with Tavares and Okoposo.

Ill never understand the trade Perron argument. He is completely different than any other top 9 fwd the oilers have. He has a very good contract. And your trading him for Dal Colle!!??

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#46 misfit
June 24 2014, 12:48PM
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If Florida and Buffalo remain at #1 and #2, then I could see a situation where Ekblad is available at #3. If Florida moves their pick, I would imagine Ekblad is gone by 3 (yeah, I know Van wants Reinhart).

So if we have the choice between Ekblad and Draisaitl, then I can't see any way we don't take the defenseman. I think Draisaitl fills a bigger need, but Ekblad is just too much to pass on.

IF Draisaitl is sitting at 5 and the Islanders are open to moving the pick, I'd be all over such a move. If Yakupov is the target, I'd need more than the #5 soming back. Perron would be on the table (begrudgingly), as would Gagner, but I doubt either gets it on their own. And while our young D have value in a trade, they'd probably do little to help the Islanders' need for the "here and now".

As much as I like the idea of adding both Ekblad and Draisaitl, I'm not a fan of making our on-ice product worse for next year. I might just sit tight with Ekblad and use some of our non-roster tradable assets you mentioned to add a top 6 forward or two if the cost to acquire the #5 is too dear.

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#47 bluetada
June 24 2014, 12:53PM
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the finn wrote:

I think like this:

Trade this years first pick for something that will make an impact right off the blocks.

Go for Brand Richards and Boyle out of NYR as centres, gives you size and grit for 2nd and 3rd line.

Give NYR the 1st round pick and Lander

From NYR Richards and Boyle + their 2014 2nd round pick.

The 2015 draft is important, this year not so as it's not a very deep draft year.

I like Stralman in NYR as well but it might not be possible to get him, but if one could get him and Nikitin as D-men I would say you have improved the team big time.

If Stralman ends up as free agent offer him a 3-5 year deal in the range of 2,5-3,5 million a year depending contract length, with a bonus clause as well. He is looking for stability for the family and that is what you have to satisfy than to get the best out of him.

Nikitin can also be signed long term as he is not too old yet and should be good for at least a 3 year contract.

Will give you to guys that can pass the puck and Stralman is a good shut down player as well.It will also buy you time to get the young d-men prospects to get the time needed in AHL to develop + a good trade seat down the line when the "young guys" is ready to take the step full time. Want buy you a Stanley Cup in two years but it will get you to the play offs rather quick.

There will still be salary cap left after this and trade value left as well to go for something real big if the opportunity would show.

My 5 cent worth of thoughts that is

You really should spend more time reading the newspaper or watching TV sports news before you post. Why would you trade assets to NYR for Richards when they have already bought him out and he is a UFA ?

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#48 Zarny
June 24 2014, 01:06PM
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@Will

It's revisionist history to say the Oilers could beat any team on any given night during the lockout season under Krueger.

That simply wasn't the case. They finished 19-22-7 and went on a 10 game losing streak that year. Last year, the difference was simply the first 21 games where the Oilers started 4-15-2. Over the remaining 61 games Edmonton was 25-29-7 which is virtually identical to the results under Krueger.

The PP is also a red herring. The Oilers scored 46 PPG over 271 opportunities last year (17%). To match the PP production during the lockout year (20%) they only needed 8 more PPG over 82 games. 8 more goals won't do squat to move a team up the standings.

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#49 #ThereGoesTheOilers
June 24 2014, 01:20PM
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I really don't think Ekblad will be there at 3, but even if he is we should probably draft center.

Is there any chance though that the teams ahead of us are completely delusional and leave Ekblad and Reinhart to choose from?

To me, that's a more loaded choice.

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#50 ralph_u
June 24 2014, 11:07AM
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Great reference to "It's a wonderful life". Seriously I'd think that would be an epic draft day.

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