Day two at the draft and UFAs...

Jason Gregor
June 28 2014 12:17PM

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The Oilers didn't have a 2nd or 3rd round pick due to the David Perron and Ben Scrivens trades. The trades look like this.

The Oilers dealt Magnus Paajarvi and Ivan Barbashev (33rd pick) for David Perron. 

The Oilers traded their 3rd round pick, 63rd overall to Los Angeles for Ben Scrivens. The Kings then dealt the pick to Columbus as part of the Marian Gaborik deal. Columbus then traded the pick to Detroit for the 76th pick and a 3rd rounder in 2015 and the Red Wings selected Dominic Turgeon (son of Pierre) from the Portland Winterhawks.

When the Oilers traded the pick, they didn't know it would be 63rd, and neither did the Kings when they moved it. Considering the pick moved through four teams, if Turgeon becomes a good NHL player I don't think you can say the Oilers lost the trade, because it is unlikely they would have made the same pick as the Wings.

WILLIAM LAGESSON

The Oilers first pick on day two came in the 4th round. With the 91st pick they selected Swedish defenceman, William Lagesson (pictured above).

Lagesson is a left shot D-man who plays hard according to Hockeyprospect.com.

This is their scouting report on Lagesson.

LD – Frolunda Jr. (SWE Jr.) – 6’2” 196

Reminds us of Ollas-Mattsson, as they share some similar traits. Not overly skilled and somewhat limited offensively. He plays a tough rugged game. He’s physical and tough to play against. His feet are average, skating is not his strength.

He lacks a bit in reading the play and joining the play, reading situations overall. While he lacks in many areas he’s a player we still see in a positive light and think is worthwhile selecting. He competes hard and is a tough kid who plays a lunch pail blue collar game.

He scored 8-12-20 in 45 games. It would make sense to see him play in the SEL next year, or going to USHL which Jim Matheson wrote, instead of coming over to the AHL. 

ZACH NAGELVOORT (4th round)

The Oilers used their second pick in the 4th round, 111th overall, on goalie Zach Nagelvoort from the University of Michigan. He had a 2.20 GAA and .929 SV% as a freshman with the Wolverines.

Central scouting had him ranked as the 20th best North American goalie, however, ISS Hockey had him ranked as the 8th. That is a pretty big difference between the two draft services. It illustrates how much opinions vary on players late in the draft, especially goalies.

LIAM COUGHLIN (5th round)

The Oilers went off the board with their 130th pick, selecting soon-to-be 20 year-old Liam Couglin.

He scored 18-27-45 in 53 games last year. He is a 6'3, 200 pound centre. Coughlin is committed to Boston University this fall, so he won't be a factor for a few years, if ever.

I couldn't find him rated in any draft publication. There is about an 8% chance of having a 5th round pick play on your NHL team, so going off the board here is much more palatable than doing it in the first or second round.

TYLER VESEL (6TH ROUND)

Tyler played for Omaha in the USHL. He is a small, skilled centre, 5'11",180 pounds and was ranked 188th (North American players) by Central Scouting.

The 20 year old scored 33-38-71 in 49 games in the USHL. He was third in league scoring. Guy Flaming from the Pipe Line show said Vesel is committed to Nebraska of Omaha next year.

Vesel clearly has skill, and he should be able to develop and get stronger. The question moving forward will be did he dominate the USHL because he was 20, or is he a late bloomer?

Time will tell.

KEVIN BOUCHARD

The Oilers clearly felt like their goaltending depth wasn't very good. With the 183rd pick they selected netminder Keven Bouchard from Val D'or in the QMJHL.

Bouchard is 18 and stand 6'3". As a rookie he posted a record of 17-6-1 with a 2.95 GAA and .887 SV%.

He was a back up for the QMJHL champs. Antoine Bibeau was the starter, you likely remember him from the Memorial Cup.

Bibeau was 21-18-1 with a 3.17 GAA and .907 SV%. Bibeau will turn pro this year, so Bouchard will be the starter next year.

I gave up trying to project how goalies would develop years ago, so I will just sit back and in four seasons see where he is at. The good news for Oilers fans is that many NHL goalies have come from the later rounds.

PARTING SHOTS...

The Oilers got the guy the wanted on day one, Leon Draisaitl, and while late round picks are important, I don't expect any of these guys to make an impact for at least four or five years, if ever.

Couglin was definitely a surprise pick, but only time will tell if it was a waste or a good gamble.

But now the real fun begins.

Teams will switch their focus to free agency and the salary cap. The $69 million cap means some teams need to shed some salary.

Philadelphia is already over the cap, and that is with only 19 players signed. Although they will get some relief after the first day of the season when they transfer Chris Pronger to LTIR. Boston, Chicago and Los Angeles have little room, and the Penguins only have $14 million to sign 9 players.

The Oilers have 17 players signed and they have $19.8 million in cap space. Craig MacTavish should be able to add some veterans in free agency or via a trade. 

FEDUN

Fedun

I was reading parts of the CBA on Thursday -- yes I'm a loser -- and I noticed an odd rule pertaining to Taylor Fedun. Fedun had been listed as a UFA on capgeek.com and NHLnumbers.com, but it turns out he is actually an RFA.

Fedun would have been a Group VI UFA, and in order to fit in this group a player must meet the following criteria:

  1. They need to be 25 years or older.
  2. Completed three or more seasons in the NHL, minor league or overseas.
  3. They needed to have played fewer than 80 NHL regular season or playoff games.

Technically, Fedun never played three seasons. He was injured in preseason in 2011/2012, and he never dressed for one regular season game, so he is deemed to have only played two years. Three years later that stupid icing rule is still screwing him over.

The Oilers need to qualify him before July 1st or he does become a UFA.

I wonder if they give Fedun a break and let him go free? If it wasn't for that ridiculous injury he'd be a UFA.

On the other hand, the Oilers don't have many right-shot defenders in the system. The Oilers have Martin Gernat, David Musil, Brad Hunt, Brandan Davidson, Jordan Oesterle and Dillon Simpson signed, but they all shoot left.

They need some right shot defenders, so it makes sense to qualify Fedun. They haven't qualified him yet -- often teams wait until the last moment to release their list -- but it seems a bit strange that they haven't.

I've noticed many Nation readers are pulling for Fedun and if he isn't qualified I think they would be torn. You'd be mad that the Oilers let him go, but also happy to see him test the free agent waters.

I'm curious to see what route they take with Fedun. Based on the late season callups, I think he isn't in the plans. Neither side would comment when asked, so I'm basing this on what I've seen on the ice.

I think he'll be a free agent, which he should have been anyways. If an injury in preseason causes a player to miss a season, it should still count as a season played. That is just my opinion on the ruling and his status, and I will admit the reporter in me would like to see how other teams value him. 

RFAs...

The Oilers also need to qualify Justin Schultz, Jeff Petry, Luke Gazdic, Tyler Pitlick, Curtis Hamilton and Andrew Miller. I think they have to qualify Roman Horak to retain his rights now that he signed overseas, but I'm not 100% sure.

Schultz and Petry are no-brainers. Gazdic and Pitlick seem fairly obvious as well. The Oilers might not give up on Hamilton just yet, but he's on the cusp for sure. I don't see Miller as an NHL player, so unless they want him as AHL depth they could let him walk.

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#51 Fresh Mess
June 28 2014, 04:21PM
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Old Time Oil Fan wrote:

I have been a long time Oil fan but must admit I am embarrassed by the unjustified optimism of some on this site. We are barely removed from a season in which we lost more games by 4 or more goals than any other team has in many many years. What kind of progress is this? Once again our draft brings little promise. Hopefully Leon turns out great but in reality we were forced to pick him due to the many mistakes of this re-re-rebuild and in the process let the better player slide to the flames. Leon is big but doen't play big, his size is an advantage in junior but once he lines up against "men" his lack of aggression and drive will erode any advantage. Hopefully there is still value, unlike the uncoachable Yak, and terrible defense of RNH, but given the track record of this team I am no longer holding my breath. I've drank way too much kool-aide over the past 8 yrs. Until 6 rings is gone there is no hope. Our reputation in the front office is even worse than the on ice product. Wake up Katz!!!

I enjoy remembering the euphoria and delusion of times like these in November when the Oilers are last in their division and the fangirls are screaming for the assistant coaches and pro scouts to be fired.

It's a laugh a minute here.

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#52 aspin
June 28 2014, 04:26PM
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Jason, I thought Lagesson is going to the USHL next year and going to the college route?

Matheson tweeted he was playing USHL this year then going NCAA.

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@NHLbyMatty 2h Oilers draft Swedish D man William Lagesson with 1st pick in round four. He's off to play in USHL this year and go US college route.#Oilers

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#53 pelhem grenville
June 28 2014, 04:39PM
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...just noticed the first mention of Kevin in any thread for a while, while reading Old Time Oiler Fan's ~suicide note~...Question ...was Kevin there in Philly at the draft?... I did not see him ...everyone saw the Katz kids' hair but was Kevin there too?

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#54 Fresh Mess
June 28 2014, 04:43PM
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pelhem grenville wrote:

next & rex...so did everyone do better on this years' draft than the oilers? should the oilers start to unload as many players they got from the first round to get back other teams first round picks like Buffalo? would the oilers get a first round pick for Yak? for Gagner? oilers plus a good tank job again could have 3 first round picks if they started soon because the rule's about to change...

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/sabres-gm-upset-over-new-draft-lottery-rules--was-buffalo-targeted-173512890.html

A first round pick for Yak or Ganger? LOl. No way.Although people here were positive Hemsky would fetch a first, so I'm sure you'll here it all.

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#55 James
June 28 2014, 05:07PM
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Lets wait 5 years to see that these picks were horrible save the #3 pick. Oilers playoffs estimation 5 + years. I'm hearing from a reliable source that the 2020 draft looks strong

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#56 Rowdypfeif
June 28 2014, 05:37PM
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Zach Nagelvoort scored 20 points in 45 games? … pretty damn good for a goalie! Surprised he didn't go higher ;)

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#57 brad
June 28 2014, 05:47PM
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Rama Lama wrote:

I think this is the last year Mac T will surrender any more second and third round picks. In my way of thinking, these picks are pure gold because they require scouting to be on top of their game. There seem to always to be real gems buried in the second round, provided your scouting is great.

That Nikita Scherbak kid was very impressive in his interview, too bad he went to Montreal........I suspect we will be hearing his name a lot in the near future. I was hoping that Mac T was going to pull a trade and acquire a second rounder, by trading a guy like Gagner..........maybe other GM's don't value him to be able to get a second rounder?

I'm hoping Drisiatle is ready to plug and play like Sean Monahan did up in Calgary.

I would "surrender" a second and a third round pick for Perron and Scrivens ANY and EVERY year!

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#58 Ivan Drago
June 28 2014, 06:03PM
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HardBoiledOil wrote:

i think it was one of the crappiest drafts we've ever had, save for Draisaitl. and Kulda would have been a nice touch in round 7. really, what would they have had to lose? also angry that they passed on big defenseman Ryan Rehill in the 5th round. i know, another left shooting d-man, but he plays right in Stu's back yard in Kamloops, is from Edmonton and was considered to be the toughest fighter in the WHL. but the Oilers wouldn't want him now would they? he isn't average size enough or a puck mover. so let's just let New Jersey take him one pick later!

Declaring it the crappiest draft ever on the weekend it happens is a little soon isn't it?

I understand though, your the fan who is never happy regardless what gets done. Draft a coke machine and then complain that he cant actually take and make a pass. Draft an avg sized guy with skill and then complain we didn't draft tough enough. Always a complainer. Like QSB.

And maybe, just maybe, since the guy you mentioned plays in Stu's backyard, yet Stu passed on him, that he might possibly know or have seen something YOU might have missed. It is his job and all.

But hey, armchair GM is the best of games cause you never lose.......

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#59 Old Time Oil Fan
June 28 2014, 06:50PM
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brad wrote:

I would "surrender" a second and a third round pick for Perron and Scrivens ANY and EVERY year!

How easy we forget. Don't get me wrong, I like Perron (probably as much as any oiler) but we had to "surrender" a second round pick and a failed first round pick in Magnus whats his name. Why is it that when this trade is referenced all you here is Perron for a second rounder and just conveniently forget about another wasted first round pick?

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#60 backup bob
June 28 2014, 06:53PM
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Leon "the big G" will serve the Oilers well. The rest of the draft, was a little underwhelming for the Oilers. Not sure Mactavish can make a splash in free agency.

Maybe Carrot Top can make the lineup.

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#61 Old Time Oil Fan
June 28 2014, 07:00PM
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Ivan Drago wrote:

Declaring it the crappiest draft ever on the weekend it happens is a little soon isn't it?

I understand though, your the fan who is never happy regardless what gets done. Draft a coke machine and then complain that he cant actually take and make a pass. Draft an avg sized guy with skill and then complain we didn't draft tough enough. Always a complainer. Like QSB.

And maybe, just maybe, since the guy you mentioned plays in Stu's backyard, yet Stu passed on him, that he might possibly know or have seen something YOU might have missed. It is his job and all.

But hey, armchair GM is the best of games cause you never lose.......

Hey Ivan, easy on the kool-aide. It feels good to gulp it down but will only leave you with a sick stomach in the end. I speak from experience.

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#62 Gold
June 28 2014, 07:35PM
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MacT, Your Ego’s Writing Cheques Your Body Can’t Cash

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#63 Saytalk
June 28 2014, 07:43PM
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It takes several years to fully assess the quality of a draft crop, but if the Oilers got David Perron with their second round pick and Ben Scrivens with their third round pick, then I think the early indication is this is one of the best drafts they've had in a long time.

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#64 Spydyr
June 28 2014, 07:57PM
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Saytalk wrote:

It takes several years to fully assess the quality of a draft crop, but if the Oilers got David Perron with their second round pick and Ben Scrivens with their third round pick, then I think the early indication is this is one of the best drafts they've had in a long time.

David Perron with their second round pick and a failed first round pick named PRV.Why does he always get forgotten?

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#65 Harris
June 28 2014, 08:00PM
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Saytalk wrote:

It takes several years to fully assess the quality of a draft crop, but if the Oilers got David Perron with their second round pick and Ben Scrivens with their third round pick, then I think the early indication is this is one of the best drafts they've had in a long time.

I've only seen Ben Scrivens in 1 game he needed to win and that was the Worlds, sadly he looked bad.

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#66 Harris
June 28 2014, 08:02PM
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Scrivens got lucky playing with the Oilers , his rebound control below NHL average. He will need to improve if he has any chance to be a #1 goalie.

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#67 stealthwise
June 28 2014, 09:27PM
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Um... is Edmonton actually aware that all they have to do is qualify Fedun to keep him? I don't even know if I have that much faith in management, which really sums it all up.

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#68 Reagan
June 28 2014, 10:05PM
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God Liam was born around the same time I finished High School... haha

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#69 Spydyr
June 28 2014, 10:05PM
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stealthwise wrote:

Um... is Edmonton actually aware that all they have to do is qualify Fedun to keep him? I don't even know if I have that much faith in management, which really sums it all up.

That would be funny if it was not true.

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#70 KozyMel
June 28 2014, 11:11PM
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Hey Jason,

Do you think it's worth while in discussing why having an 18 year-old (who was picked 3rd overall in his draft year) will NOT develop on the 3rd/4ht lines of an NHL team:

- playing 6-8 minutes a night - playing in a shut down role - playing with career 3rd/4th liners - etc...

Isn't the way you develop a top 6 forward is to have him playing top 3 minutes in Junior or top 3 minutes in the AHL??

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#71 KozyMel
June 28 2014, 11:23PM
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Saytalk wrote:

It takes several years to fully assess the quality of a draft crop, but if the Oilers got David Perron with their second round pick and Ben Scrivens with their third round pick, then I think the early indication is this is one of the best drafts they've had in a long time.

MacT traded Paajarvi (a #10 first round pick) and a #33 second round pick to get Perron (who was a #26 first round pick).

Again: #10 & #33 for #26. Two for one.

Purely theoretically speaking that's not good value.

On a 1:1 comparison Perron has worked out better than Paajarvi. However, Perron is also 3 years older.

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#72 nuge2nail
June 28 2014, 11:40PM
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KozyMel wrote:

MacT traded Paajarvi (a #10 first round pick) and a #33 second round pick to get Perron (who was a #26 first round pick).

Again: #10 & #33 for #26. Two for one.

Purely theoretically speaking that's not good value.

On a 1:1 comparison Perron has worked out better than Paajarvi. However, Perron is also 3 years older.

Oiler Domination To Follow

Good math... Your right Paarjarvi is better than Perron...

Lol what a joke...

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#73 nuge2nail
June 28 2014, 11:43PM
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Quicksilver ballet wrote:

Can't say what happened the last couple days comes as a surprise. Par for the course for a scouting crew that thinks they know better than Central Scouting. Only thing left for this team is to patronize us by mentioning they're extremely happy with the miracle selections they pulled off in this draft.

Now that the Draisaitl over Bennett wound is starting to heal. I actually feel better that Sam Bennett didn't have to come to this organization. He'll have a much better opportunity to be successful elsewhere.

The fruits of this Loyalty before Results is entrenched, and has the Oilers squarely mired in this infinibuild. Calgary's rebuild has surpassed the Oilers in this summer alone.

It has become evident that money is far more important than winning to current overlord Daryl Katz. Government cheese type entertainment for the foreseeable future no doubt.

Oiler Domination To Follow

Yeah Calgary's rebuild has passed ours....

You are a good judge of talent...

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#74 Oilers4ever
June 29 2014, 01:17AM
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To all you people who bitch... think you could do any better? I thought not otherwise you'd be gm'ing an NHL team. Rating a draft when you have no idea how a player will turn out is moronic at best. Give your head a shake and learn about the game before you speak. This from the shores of Seattle where people were sure the Oil were going to move to also right. Not missing Alberta right now. :)

Way to go Esks for winning in B.C. And Safeco field is an amazing baseball stadium. Looking forward to games in San Francisco and Oakland next week!

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