Free agency begins...Oilers sign Fayne and Pouliot

Jason Gregor
July 01 2014 10:02AM

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The Dallas Stars got a jump on the rest of the NHL when they acquired Jason Spezza and Ludvig Karlsson for Alec Chiasson, Alex Guptill, Nicholas Paul and 2nd round pick in 2015.

The West continues to get stronger, and if the Oilers plan to become competitive in two years they must develop Leon Draisaitl correctly. You need elite centres, two of them, to compete in the western conference. 

The Oilers won't get an elite centre in free agency, but they will try to find some quality veterans to help the Oilers young core become more competitive.

BREAKING...Oilers sign Mark Fayne to a four-year deal at $3.5 million/year and Benoit Pouliot for five years at $4 mill/year.

Former Oiler, Ales Hemsky, signs in Dallas for three years at $4 million/year 

Oilers sign Keith Aulie to a one-year deal. Good depth guy. He can be a #6/7 and it is better that he sits in the pressbox instead of a young D-man.

The Oilers will try to land a centre, a 3rd line left winger a 4th line right winger and some D-men.

They will go after players like Legwand, Goc, Grabovski, Jokinen, Boyle, Kulemin, Pouliot, Winnik, Fayne, Engelland, Stralman and Dan Boyle.

If they can land two of those players that would be a good day, if they get three would very good. We'll see what happens.

We will update you as the day unfolds.

Also, before we get to hockey I'd like to say Happy 147th birthday to The True North Strong and Free. I'm extremely lucky to have been born in this great country and make sure you celebrate our great Nation today.

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QUICK HITS...

  • With Dallas trading for Spezza, this puts even more pressure on St.Louis to try and sign Stastny. I like Stastny a lot, but if he gets $7mill/year that is huge money for a guy who is a great 2nd line centre.


  • Jarome Iginla and the Bruins might have to part ways because the Bs have limited cap space. Minnesota, Tampa Bay, Colorado and Detroit are interested. The Avs really like Iginla and want his experience and if they lose out on Stastny, which seems likely, they could go hard after Iggy.


  • Dave Bolland is my pick for biggest overpayment. Who is yours?

SIGNINGS BEGIN...

  • Penguins sign Ehrhoff for one year at $4 million. Good signing for Pens, especially with Maatta coming off shoulder surgery.
  • Manny Malhotra signs a one year, $850,000 deal with Montreal. Malhotra continues to be a great feel good story....
  • Mark Fayne at four years $3.5 million is a solid signing, but I don't see him more than a #4 long term. The most important part of this signing is that means the Oilers don't have to rush their young D-men.
  • Pouliot's five years concerns me. Time will tell, but that money for five years could be an issue in the future. He has played on five teams in five years. The Oilers needed a proven NHL player and he is that, but five years is major risk, IMO. Pouliot is a former #4 overall pick, so he does have some skill. I like that he is very aggressive on the forecheck and he will give the Oilers a good puck retriever.

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#1 Whitey31
July 01 2014, 11:55AM
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Awesome!! One 6'2", Two 6'3", One 6'4", and now a 6'6" player(s) in the last few days!! So far it's only cost us Gags? lol

I am truly shocked that some of you are complaining?? Will you ever find happiness? Too much money, term is too long, fire MacT..wha wha! Any of us that actually follow hockey in the real world know that this is how free agency works. Players are going to take the deal that best suits them. Maybe Benoit was offered the same amount from another team but for a shorter term, so we had to step up a year to get him? Ya lets get bargain deals, because I am sure the ticket prices will go down in the new building? lol Way to go MacT, thanks for actually doing something to show this city that you care!

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#2 Scottyprime
July 01 2014, 11:40AM
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Seriously....

B. Pouliot - 4mil per year until he's 32; mid 30's point production, quite good defensively, big body.

M. Michalek - 4 mil per year until he's 32; mid 30's point production (especially now that he's not with Spezza), mediocre defensively, big body.

B. Gionta - 4.25 per year until he's 38; early 40s point production. Good defensively, small body.

A. Hemsky - 4 mil per year until he's 33; mid 30's to 40's point production, possibly more on a full season with Spezza. Mediocre defensively, smallish body.

D. Bolland- 5.5 mil per year until he's 33; Maybe 30's point production, quite good defensively, smallish body.

Why is it that people think Pouliot is an overpay "by the comparables"? The whole league seems to think players in his range are worth what he are paying him, and he's arguably one of the best in that range, if not the best.

Also, the Ducks signed Clayton Stoner to a very similar contract to Fayne. Fayne is definitely a spot or two up on Stoner, and making a whopping 250k more.

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#3 Mason Storm
July 01 2014, 02:21PM
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Gagner and Dubnyk reunited in the desert where they can continue wandering together.

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#4 Will
July 01 2014, 11:38AM
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Fedun to San Jose, good for him. Bad for Oilers.

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#5 thebiggestmanintheworld
July 01 2014, 01:05PM
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If they get Petry and Schultz signed, this will be the closest we have been to an actual NHL roster in a long time.

Perron, Hendricks, Nikitin, Fayne, Pouliot are all decent NHL players with good-very good possession numbers.

All they cost were MPS, Dubnyk, a second and fifth round picks and money.

Not to mention bringing in two *seemingly* capable goalies for only picks as well, and it looks like MacTivity has shaped this roster to his liking in two short seasons.

This team is now in Taylor and the gang's hands.

No more Hemsky, Gagner, Smyth, Smid, Dubnyk to remind us of one of the darkest times in Oilers history.

I had my reservations about MacT at first.

No more.

Full steam ahead, capt'n!

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#6 gus1000
July 01 2014, 10:58AM
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Pouliot is a good player, but would rather him with Raymond's contract. An overpay, but not overly bad by year three when the cap is probably $75 mil.

Fayne fills a hole, played a lot of minutes on a good team. Big, can clear the front of the net. Doesn't turn the puck over.

So far Mac has been moving the roster.

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#7 Jeff Lebowski
July 01 2014, 12:41PM
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Whitey31 wrote:

Awesome!! One 6'2", Two 6'3", One 6'4", and now a 6'6" player(s) in the last few days!! So far it's only cost us Gags? lol

I am truly shocked that some of you are complaining?? Will you ever find happiness? Too much money, term is too long, fire MacT..wha wha! Any of us that actually follow hockey in the real world know that this is how free agency works. Players are going to take the deal that best suits them. Maybe Benoit was offered the same amount from another team but for a shorter term, so we had to step up a year to get him? Ya lets get bargain deals, because I am sure the ticket prices will go down in the new building? lol Way to go MacT, thanks for actually doing something to show this city that you care!

I'm a Flames fan. MacT has been decisive and improved his team. Good fit players brought in.

He has schooled CGY. This sucks.

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#8 The Soup Fascist
July 01 2014, 02:33PM
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oilerretardationtofollow wrote:

Can the "Oilers domination yo follow" retard please stop posting that? Can the mods make a script that deletes any post with it? It's annoying.

You put the "ass" in "classless".

What is annoying is people who have not figured out that the word "retard" is really not acceptable in most circles.

Be better.

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#9 Slyers
July 01 2014, 11:17AM
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Serious Gord wrote:

I think cgy got the better deal - time will tell.

P.A. Wow shocker you don't like anything the Oilers do. If Mason had signed with the Oil you would be complaining about another small player. Benoit is way bigger and more aggressive with just as much offensive up side. Wow you are like the saddest puppy ever. Pathetic !

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#10 pelhem grenville
July 01 2014, 10:37AM
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...Pouliot becomes the oilers 5th top points getter on the team behind RNH... ...y'can't crap on this pickup...

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#11 Slyers
July 01 2014, 11:01AM
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Smokey wrote:

I agree, Nashville and Pheonix will pick up value deals of comparable players for 1 year at basement prices while we enjoy the Pouliot albatross for years to come.

Mark Fayne I can live with. Reasonable contrast, a much needed player.

Albatross ... Give me a break, at the most it is a million over pay, which is normal for a free agent. Do you really believe a million bucks is going to make any difference in 3-5 yrs with the cap continuing to go up. Also they could buy out if it gets really bad, it's 4 million not 7 like Horcoff a buy out would be nothing. Some of you bitch just to bitch, if Mac Tavish did nothing you whine, it's free agency you are competing with other teams you either over pay or watch and pray someone falls to you who you may or may not like. McT. Is doing well targeting usefull players with contracts that will not cripple us, well done!!!!

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#12 bradleypi
July 01 2014, 10:46AM
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@The Last Big Bear

Shocker.... guy hasn't been an oiler for an hour and he's getting crapped on...I love the signings today... actual nhl players are never a bad thing...keep them coming Mact!!

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#13 v4ance
July 01 2014, 02:10PM
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jl wrote:

Oiler douche,

flames are not ready to compete for a playoff spot, and are trying just to get to the floor.

Ill let the rest of you on here continue with telling the rest of us how "good your gonna be" good luck with the permanent rebuild.

Final thought 8-1 losers.

Sorry you got the score wrong.

5-1

Cups.

All about the Cups.

EDIT: So you needed Engelland to get to the floor? Why not just sign him for ONE year instead of 3?

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#14 They're $hittie
July 01 2014, 10:14AM
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fayne and pouliot, yes!

and a great contract, not sure about 4M for that long on Pouliot.

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#15 Danger Pay
July 01 2014, 02:42PM
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@oilerretardationtofollow

Would the moderator kindly moderate this Display Name, Please. It would also be appreciated if all comments by this person were removed. Thank you

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#16 Danger Pay
July 01 2014, 11:42AM
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Mac T is definitely addressing the size and experience issues! Great job so far!

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#17 just plain bad
July 01 2014, 07:25PM
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Silver wrote:

Why oilers did not get? .

Andrej Meszaros $4.125M Buffalo Moulson, Matt $5M Buffalo Boyle, Brian $2M Tampa Bay

Great deals on these players.

They have to want to come here.

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#18 Privateeye
July 01 2014, 10:24AM
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$3.5/ year for Fayne is a steal

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#19 Will
July 01 2014, 11:44AM
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Spydyr wrote:

Funny how a much better team thinks Fedun is of use but the Oilers don't.

Nah, it's completely situational. Edmonton does not have the luxury of bringing in solid but undersized young kids to a roster bursting with undersized and skilled young kids.

He was too good for AHL, but behind the depth chart on Marincin, Shultz, Petry, Nurse, and Klefbomb. I seriously think the Oilers did the right thing not for the Oilers, but for Fedune and let him go to free agency, rather than continue to stifle his career.

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#20 Scottyprime
July 01 2014, 12:39PM
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@Spydyr

If Last Bear and yourself wish to tell yourself that its all just the Oilers being fools that's cool. I just like to base my expectations and opinions on recent and applicable facts, not how things would be if we were living 1-5 years in the past.

Its really a fools errand to say "Well IF this was 2012, and IF the other 29 teams agreed to intentionally leave good players on the table until July 10, and IF those players would then totally agree to take the Oilers low ball offer over any other teams, THEN the Oilers would be really stupid to sign a totally usable player like BP to a deal at about 115% of his otherwise expected salary for the prime of his career on July 1st."

Seriously, you talk a lot about kool-aid but clearly your the one(s) building some alternate reality to live in where these aren't moves being made by plenty of teams right now. This is the market reality, it doesn't matter what the market was last year, the year before that or even yesterday. Teams work with what is happening now. As they should. Just saying "Well I will just never sign anyone who doesn't agree to a perfectly reasonable deal, minus an extra 5%", is a great way to run a team into the ground. You will never sign or trade anyone. Business is a two way street, the people running the teams know that, which is why for example they are working in a multi-million dollar business as GM's, and you are here criticizing it.

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#21 v4ance
July 01 2014, 10:52AM
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Bolland 5x $5.5 with FLA ????

Winner of bad contract of the day.... so far...

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#22 hankthetank
July 01 2014, 05:03PM
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It's amazing all the negativity in here today. Some of you guys should take your toys and go home.

I am obviously a part of the optimistic minority who feel that MacT did some good work in the last few days...I'm excited for the start of the season.

Any one else....?

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#23 The Real Scuba Steve
July 01 2014, 10:31AM
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Good ones MacT, keep em coming.

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#24 Johnnydapunk
July 01 2014, 02:21PM
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In more former Oiler news, Dubnyk signs with the Coyotes on a one year deal for $800 000.

I'm happy for him as he seemed like a nice enough chap who just had a career meltdown on an epic scale. Hope he gets it back on track.

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#25 oilerretardationtofollow
July 01 2014, 02:13PM
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Can the "Oilers domination yo follow" retard please stop posting that? Can the mods make a script that deletes any post with it? It's annoying.

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#26 v4ance
July 01 2014, 02:45PM
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$2 M for 1 year for Brad Richards? To the Hawks?

Best deal of the day.

On the other hand, they're now $2.2M over the cap. Other shoe has to drop via trade/waiver/buy-out. I think MacT needs to get on the phone with CHI and try to pry out Hjalmarsson

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#27 They're $hittie
July 01 2014, 10:26AM
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If you were a smid fan an thought his contract was fine, the Fayne deal is great than.

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#28 TigerUnderGlass
July 01 2014, 01:27PM
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aaaand the Flames join the race for worst signing.

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#29 Smokey
July 01 2014, 11:44AM
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Spydyr wrote:

Funny how a much better team thinks Fedun is of use but the Oilers don't.

San Jose farm team will rule.

Where does he fit in with the Oilers with 5 prospects ahead of him. Oilers did him a service, cutting him loose to a team who probably has less defensive prospect depth.

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#30 nuge2nail
July 01 2014, 02:07PM
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MessyEH wrote:

I'm sorry. After reading thread, after thread, of this guy preaching about a players draft number, being an indicator of value, that supercedes what they have accomplished post draft. I have little, to zero, respect for them.

The negatively towards "allthingsOilers " is just as bad as the Kool Aid drinking, glass heel wearing fan boys, that also comment here.

If you are not an Oilers fan, (and you can't be if you hate everything they do, and every move they make.) Or, only call call yourself one for what they did 24+ years ago and/or geography. Then why come here? To be negative all the time?

I am sure that there are more productive things that a rising star of the NHL General managers guild could be doing.

*Drops mic. And salutes with middle finger.*

In MacT we trust.

Oiler Domination To Follow

I agree 100%. If you hate the oilers management, hate the coaches, the roster and all the new players that join the team...

How can you call yourself an Oilers fan?

Seems like we have a ton of DSFs on steroids posting negative comments on a regular basis.

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#31 jonny94
July 01 2014, 10:20AM
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Pricey for these guys but glad we have some much needed solid NHL players added to the roster

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#32 WhattaMike
July 01 2014, 10:36AM
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Very good start to me as Fayne, at 27 yrs, is a very positive signing at a decent contract. In today's market he got basically what any team who could of gotten wouldve paid...so as long as he is not with a NMC or NTC I am good with this. He is big and tough enough with great shutdown abilties. I believe he will be paired with Ference while Nikitin will move over with Schultz, leaving Marancin to stay with Petry (if not traded).

The defence is looking far better now as a six man set-up with all NHL type players (no AHL ones) than the last five yrs or so.

The Oilers are at least showing smarts for now that this is to let the kids grow up and develop nicely in the system and.... thank goodness the Oilers retained Nelson. He will be great for the kids down in OKC once again.

Pouliot, at 27 yrs old, is a great signing as because $4 mil per year is very do-able and this guy can play great with grit/toughness/some offence on any 3rd line in the league. As long as the cap keeps going up and he did not stick any NTC in the contract this is awesome.

Besides, everyone knows this is a day every team pretty much overpays....prime example is Clarkson of TML...

Good more small steps forward MacT.

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#33 Bloodsweatandoil
July 01 2014, 01:33PM
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As mentioned above, today made our roster a NHL Roster, not quite complete, but a helluva lot bigger, grittier and more skillful than we have seen in the last five or 6 years.

As an Oiler Fan, today gives back a bit of team pride and real excitement for this up coming season!

Thanks MacT ! Its not lipstick on a pig anymore!

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#34 SlowTalker
July 01 2014, 11:10AM
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My wish came true. Hilarious!

Ryan Miller 3yr 18 Mill.

I'm going to be laughing all day!!

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#35 Max
July 01 2014, 03:00PM
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Will wrote:

And the biggest free agent signing of the day finally goes down! Devun D comes back west to the dessert dogs.

I for one wish Devan all the very best and good luck. His season (and life probably) imploded and it was sorry to see. He has Sam waiting down there and has a chance to redeem himself and reclaim his confidence. Good luck Duby, you deserve it.

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#36 hemi
July 01 2014, 03:23PM
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Just listened to the Mac-T's presser, he is still in search mode for a Center. More changes are coming. Gotta give credit to him, he has done more in a very short time (and I believe to the betterment of the team) than any other Management personnel for the last how many years! Good stuff and it definitely feels good to be a Oil fan today. For the nay-sayers, you guys suck today and not the Oil.

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#37 Sevenseven
July 01 2014, 10:58AM
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Hope we see a #2 center coming.

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#38 Bladiator
July 01 2014, 12:42PM
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Wanye should change his pen name to Fanye now.

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#39 2004Z06
July 01 2014, 04:25PM
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The Last Big Bear wrote:

How about these comparables?

Benoit Pouliot: $1.3m, signed for 1 year at age 26, after a 20 point lockout season, good defensively, big body.

Benoit Pouliot: $1.8m, signed for 1 year at age 25, 32 points on previous contract, good defensively, big body.

Benoit Pouliot: $1.1m, signed for 1 year at age 24, 30 points the previous season, good defensively, big body.

Benoit Pouliot: $1.375m, signed for 1 year at age 23, 28 points the precious season, good defensively, big body.

I'd say those are some pretty good comparables to 27 year old Benoit Pouliot.

He's been a fringe NHLer, bouncing from team to team on 1 year, $1-ish million contracts, not getting renewed, and having to look elsewhere.

The Oilers just signed the same player to triple the salary and five times the term that everyone else has been giving him.

This is not the kind of contract needed to land this kind of player, as objectively demonstrated by *this exact player*.

How about these comparable's...

Oilers 2010-11...30th place...No one wants to play here Oilers 2011-12...29th place...No one wants to play here Oilers 2012-13...24th place... No one wants to play here Oilers 2013-14...27th place...No one wants to play here

What part of free agency and having to over pay for players to come here don't you understand?

Don't think your signature was on the contract either so why the hell do you care?

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#40 Fresh Mess
July 01 2014, 10:14AM
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and oilers get fayne

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#41 Danoilerfanincalgary
July 01 2014, 11:22AM
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Both Pouliot and Purcell are bigger less a defensive liability and cheaper than Gagner, looks like an upgrade to me.

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#42 6 ring circus
July 01 2014, 01:32PM
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No other GM has been more active than Mactavish in less than a year and half on the job ,he isn't going to hit a home run with every signing or trade ,at least he isn't scared and sitting on his hands like his predessor (Dithers),as a long time Oilers fan ,I can't really fault him with the moves he has made since this years draft.

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#43 mithaman
July 01 2014, 03:20PM
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MacT did a good job today. He signed players with size and real NHL experience which the Oilers desperately needed. The term and price for Fayne and Pouliot was also very good. Comparable free agents seemed to have gotten similar dollars and term on their deals.

While these deals will make the Oilers better they are still a long way from making the playoffs in the big bad west. Fayne, Pouliot, Nikitin, and Purcell make them more competitive but they do not make the Oilers a playoff team. Just look at their competition:

La Kings - Reigning champs added Gaborik Chicago Blackhawks - 2 cups in 4 years Anaheim - Added Kesler San Jose - Perrenial Contender Colorado - Lost Stastny but added Iggy Minnesota - Added Vanek Vancouver - Added Miller St. Louis - Added Stastny Dallas - Added Spezza and Hemsky

There is a massive talent gap already between these teams and the Oilers, and all their competitors got better today. To stand a chance in the West the Oilers still need a #1 D, and a #1/2 C to guide Nuge and Draistl. Yakupov, Klefbom, Nurse, and Marincin will also need to improve and develop.

It's a shame, because the Oilers look like a playoff team in the East, but the West is just too good right now. MacT is doing a good job and we are slowly getting better. If we continue down this road we should be playoff team for a long time in 2-3 years.

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#44 Mo Playoffs Mo Problems
July 01 2014, 11:46AM
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Serious Gord wrote:

Hillier to cgy.

MacT/Klowe have made a very risky bet on two goalies with less than a seasons worth of experience - could have gotten hiller or Niemi. If the bet fails everything else is irrelevant.

Why?

Edmonton won't win the cup next year even if their goaltenders play out of their minds. If they play terrible, then MacT can replace one or both of them.

Goalies become available every year and they can be had for minimal assets, but having 2 goalies who are young with a lot to prove pushing each other isn't a bad approach. Hopefully by the time the team develops into a playoff contender, one of the goalies has established himself as a reliable #1.

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#45 SlowTalker
July 01 2014, 12:50PM
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Spydyr wrote:

And I told you what I would pay for him in the first line:

"I would have given him the bare minimum to qualify him."

Did you miss that

Are you telling me Fedun would not of helped in the AHL and been a OK call up?

The same thing a much better team SJ is going to do with him.

Spyder, you are not having a good run at the Oiler board if all you are doing, is dying on that hill named Fedun.

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#46 Lochenzo
July 01 2014, 01:01PM
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Fedun deserves a shot at the NHL so letting him go is the right thing to do. He's a small defenceman. In Edmonton, we don't have the room to add another small guy. Fedun goes to San Jose where Dan Boyle just left, so there's room on that defence for a small guy.

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#47 Joils
July 01 2014, 01:25PM
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So happy burke handed engelland 3x3. Truckulance lol.

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#48 Lofty
July 01 2014, 10:34AM
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The Last Big Bear wrote:

Pouliot is a 15 goal depth winger, who is 27 years old and is pretty much a finished product.

Better lock him up to a heavy contract for the longest term possible.

#because6rings

He's an actual NHL player that's going to play for the Oilers... Its an improvement.

The salary cap has gone up almost 20% over the last 5 years. Your $4 million dollar player now gets paid around $5. Inflation.

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#49 FISH
July 01 2014, 11:31AM
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Fresh Mess wrote:

8.5 million on Purcell and Pouliot. Ouch. I don't get why they would sign Pouliot unless they are about to trade one of their wingers. Hopefully it's Yakupov.

just wanted to point out ho much of an idiot your are, i would think your terry jones trying to trade yakupov.

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#50 Spydyr
July 01 2014, 10:22AM
Trash it!
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Fayne appears OK to me at the moment.

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