Free agency begins...Oilers sign Fayne and Pouliot

Jason Gregor
July 01 2014 10:02AM

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The Dallas Stars got a jump on the rest of the NHL when they acquired Jason Spezza and Ludvig Karlsson for Alec Chiasson, Alex Guptill, Nicholas Paul and 2nd round pick in 2015.

The West continues to get stronger, and if the Oilers plan to become competitive in two years they must develop Leon Draisaitl correctly. You need elite centres, two of them, to compete in the western conference. 

The Oilers won't get an elite centre in free agency, but they will try to find some quality veterans to help the Oilers young core become more competitive.

BREAKING...Oilers sign Mark Fayne to a four-year deal at $3.5 million/year and Benoit Pouliot for five years at $4 mill/year.

Former Oiler, Ales Hemsky, signs in Dallas for three years at $4 million/year 

Oilers sign Keith Aulie to a one-year deal. Good depth guy. He can be a #6/7 and it is better that he sits in the pressbox instead of a young D-man.

The Oilers will try to land a centre, a 3rd line left winger a 4th line right winger and some D-men.

They will go after players like Legwand, Goc, Grabovski, Jokinen, Boyle, Kulemin, Pouliot, Winnik, Fayne, Engelland, Stralman and Dan Boyle.

If they can land two of those players that would be a good day, if they get three would very good. We'll see what happens.

We will update you as the day unfolds.

Also, before we get to hockey I'd like to say Happy 147th birthday to The True North Strong and Free. I'm extremely lucky to have been born in this great country and make sure you celebrate our great Nation today.

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QUICK HITS...

  • With Dallas trading for Spezza, this puts even more pressure on St.Louis to try and sign Stastny. I like Stastny a lot, but if he gets $7mill/year that is huge money for a guy who is a great 2nd line centre.


  • Jarome Iginla and the Bruins might have to part ways because the Bs have limited cap space. Minnesota, Tampa Bay, Colorado and Detroit are interested. The Avs really like Iginla and want his experience and if they lose out on Stastny, which seems likely, they could go hard after Iggy.


  • Dave Bolland is my pick for biggest overpayment. Who is yours?

SIGNINGS BEGIN...

  • Penguins sign Ehrhoff for one year at $4 million. Good signing for Pens, especially with Maatta coming off shoulder surgery.
  • Manny Malhotra signs a one year, $850,000 deal with Montreal. Malhotra continues to be a great feel good story....
  • Mark Fayne at four years $3.5 million is a solid signing, but I don't see him more than a #4 long term. The most important part of this signing is that means the Oilers don't have to rush their young D-men.
  • Pouliot's five years concerns me. Time will tell, but that money for five years could be an issue in the future. He has played on five teams in five years. The Oilers needed a proven NHL player and he is that, but five years is major risk, IMO. Pouliot is a former #4 overall pick, so he does have some skill. I like that he is very aggressive on the forecheck and he will give the Oilers a good puck retriever.

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#1 Yammer
July 01 2014, 11:44AM
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Horrible signings. The terms are just wrong on every one of them. Pouliot is an ok player on the 3rd line but not worth that kind of cash.

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#2 Fresh Mess
July 01 2014, 10:22AM
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Smokey wrote:

I just pooped a brick. Beniot Pouliot signs for 5 years. Can they start the buyout.

Mark Fayne, meh.

8.5 million on Purcell and Pouliot. Ouch. I don't get why they would sign Pouliot unless they are about to trade one of their wingers. Hopefully it's Yakupov.

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#3 oilerretardationtofollow
July 01 2014, 02:13PM
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Can the "Oilers domination yo follow" retard please stop posting that? Can the mods make a script that deletes any post with it? It's annoying.

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#4 Serious Gord
July 01 2014, 10:23AM
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So the father of the old boys cuts a deal with them.

Nauseating.

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#5 Smokey
July 01 2014, 10:20AM
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I just pooped a brick. Beniot Pouliot signs for 5 years. Can they start the buyout.

Mark Fayne, meh.

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#6 Andrew
July 01 2014, 10:24AM
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What is wrong with our team? Why would we dish out such a huge overpayment so fast when we could get an equivalent player in a few days on a shorter deal.

I am completely miserable.

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#7 Drowning in Oil
July 01 2014, 08:45PM
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ANYONE WHO BITCHES ABOUT THE FACT THAT PLAYERS DONTBWANT TO COME TO EDMONTON....... IF YOU REALLY BELIEVE THIS, PLEASE EXPLAIN WHAT IS HAPPENING IN BUFFALO!!

THE FACT IS.... MAC T IS A FOOL!!

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#8 The Last Big Bear
July 01 2014, 10:26AM
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Pouliot is a 15 goal depth winger, who is 27 years old and is pretty much a finished product.

Better lock him up to a heavy contract for the longest term possible.

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#9 Spydyr
July 01 2014, 10:27AM
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I would not mind a better second goalie than Fasth to push Ben......Hiller would be nice.

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#10 Spydyr
July 01 2014, 10:22AM
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Another huge overpay on Pouliot

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#11 Spydyr
July 01 2014, 10:33AM
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I can see Pouliot under performing with the long term.As per TSN.

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#12 Serious Gord
July 01 2014, 11:40AM
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Hillier to cgy.

MacT/Klowe have made a very risky bet on two goalies with less than a seasons worth of experience - could have gotten hiller or Niemi. If the bet fails everything else is irrelevant.

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#13 Serious Gord
July 01 2014, 10:53AM
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v4ance wrote:

Pouliot got $4M/5 yrs and Raymond just signed 3 yrs, $9.5 total or around $3.1/yr with Calgary.

I think cgy got the better deal - time will tell.

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#14 Greg the Hammer Valentine
July 01 2014, 03:24PM
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OK now, I'm gonna rain on everybody's parade and get a ton of trashes. Pouliot for five years IS the worst contract of the day. It will make the Eric Bélanger contract look good. I have seen Pouliot play (second team I follow is the Habs) and believe me, he's a 3rd liner who doesn't bring it every night. That's worth 4mil a year???? Talk about cashing in on your team's playoff success.

This is the time of year when your team can do no wrong. I remember people here being excited by Bélanger / Eager / Barker a few years ago. I also remember this winter some folks tought 1.85 m / year was an overpay for Hendricks. It looks like a bargain now.

I think Wanye got his goat of the year.

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#15 Smokey
July 01 2014, 11:46AM
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Scottyprime wrote:

Seriously....

B. Pouliot - 4mil per year until he's 32; mid 30's point production, quite good defensively, big body.

M. Michalek - 4 mil per year until he's 32; mid 30's point production (especially now that he's not with Spezza), mediocre defensively, big body.

B. Gionta - 4.25 per year until he's 38; early 40s point production. Good defensively, small body.

A. Hemsky - 4 mil per year until he's 33; mid 30's to 40's point production, possibly more on a full season with Spezza. Mediocre defensively, smallish body.

D. Bolland- 5.5 mil per year until he's 33; Maybe 30's point production, quite good defensively, smallish body.

Why is it that people think Pouliot is an overpay "by the comparables"? The whole league seems to think players in his range are worth what he are paying him, and he's arguably one of the best in that range, if not the best.

Also, the Ducks signed Clayton Stoner to a very similar contract to Fayne. Fayne is definitely a spot or two up on Stoner, and making a whopping 250k more.

Its term not dollars. Multiply the 2, add in the fact Poo is inconsistent and has character issues and you got bad contract.

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#16 Oilers
July 01 2014, 05:24PM
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Not impressed. Team no worse. But no better. Mac t is NOT the big saviour.

Free agency is a waste of time. Usually you over pay for junk and then are stuck with it.

The only way to improve is with strategic trades. Look at lombardi.. oh.. we are the oilers... 9 years of Not That Smart

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#17 Spydyr
July 01 2014, 12:07PM
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Soccer Steve wrote:

It must be tough for you guys who figure the contracts are too steep for the new signings. Considering how much of your own money you sunk into them.

You do understand that the Oilers make a profit.Therefore money sunk on the Oilers is in the end the fans money.You get that right?

You also get that teams can only spend to the cap.If you overpay for marginal players it hurts the team.You get that too right?

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#18 Hockey fan 1976
July 01 2014, 12:01PM
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Spydyr wrote:

Funny how a much better team thinks Fedun is of use but the Oilers don't.

Best thing that could have happen to Fedun...I can't wait to see him go to a team where he'll flourish as top 6 maybe even top 4 D in the next couple of years and take it to the young Oilers for years to come. Brutal move to let him go Oilers. Brutal!!

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#19 Spydyr
July 01 2014, 10:34AM
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SlowTalker wrote:

The Oilers are OK for goaltending.

What about Vancouver though? Can't go through the season with an AHL tender in Lack. Hiller and Miller to Vancouver will have me laughing alll day though!

Did you think the Oilers were OK for goaltending last year?

I did not.

Miller is over rated IMO.

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#20 Smokey
July 01 2014, 11:04AM
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Slyers wrote:

Albatross ... Give me a break, at the most it is a million over pay, which is normal for a free agent. Do you really believe a million bucks is going to make any difference in 3-5 yrs with the cap continuing to go up. Also they could buy out if it gets really bad, it's 4 million not 7 like Horcoff a buy out would be nothing. Some of you bitch just to bitch, if Mac Tavish did nothing you whine, it's free agency you are competing with other teams you either over pay or watch and pray someone falls to you who you may or may not like. McT. Is doing well targeting usefull players with contracts that will not cripple us, well done!!!!

It is an albatross, 4 million for one year, fine, for 5?

Come on, look at comparable players over the last 3 free agencies. In 2 weeks if I am wrong, Id meet you and buy you lunch at McDonald's.

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#21 Smokey
July 01 2014, 10:39AM
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Lofty wrote:

He's an actual NHL player that's going to play for the Oilers... Its an improvement.

The salary cap has gone up almost 20% over the last 5 years. Your $4 million dollar player now gets paid around $5. Inflation.

no one disputes you, its an assinine term by a desperate GM.

Remember Raymond, similar player in terms of where they slot in on your 3rd line. Got a tryout and a 1 million dollar deal last year.

Mark Pouliot is not a driven player and in no way deserves term.

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#22 Spydyr
July 01 2014, 11:19AM
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Free agent day is like Christmas to the kool-aid drinkers.Every new toy is bright and shiny.Wait a season or two and those new toys are either broken or not as shiny.

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#23 Spydyr
July 01 2014, 12:23PM
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The Last Big Bear wrote:

How about these comparables?

Benoit Pouliot: $1.3m, signed for 1 year at age 26, after a 20 point lockout season, good defensively, big body.

Benoit Pouliot: $1.8m, signed for 1 year at age 25, 32 points on previous contract, good defensively, big body.

Benoit Pouliot: $1.1m, signed for 1 year at age 24, 30 points the previous season, good defensively, big body.

Benoit Pouliot: $1.375m, signed for 1 year at age 23, 28 points the precious season, good defensively, big body.

I'd say those are some pretty good comparables to 27 year old Benoit Pouliot.

He's been a fringe NHLer, bouncing from team to team on 1 year, $1-ish million contracts, not getting renewed, and having to look elsewhere.

The Oilers just signed the same player to triple the salary and five times the term that everyone else has been giving him.

This is not the kind of contract needed to land this kind of player, as objectively demonstrated by *this exact player*.

Stop making sense,It ruins the taste of the kool-aid.

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#24 Spydyr
July 01 2014, 12:40PM
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Wax Man Riley wrote:

And what, tell me, would you have paid for Fedun knowing he was coming up to free agency.

Would you have traded for Taylor Fedun?

I would have given him the bare minimum to qualify him.Then would have used him as a call up for injuries or traded him for a draft pick to a team suffering their own injuries somewhere during the season. Perhaps trade him to a team looking for insurance at the trade deadline .

Just like I'm thinking SJ is going to do.

Thanks for asking.

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#25 Spydyr
July 01 2014, 12:44PM
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Scottyprime wrote:

If Last Bear and yourself wish to tell yourself that its all just the Oilers being fools that's cool. I just like to base my expectations and opinions on recent and applicable facts, not how things would be if we were living 1-5 years in the past.

Its really a fools errand to say "Well IF this was 2012, and IF the other 29 teams agreed to intentionally leave good players on the table until July 10, and IF those players would then totally agree to take the Oilers low ball offer over any other teams, THEN the Oilers would be really stupid to sign a totally usable player like BP to a deal at about 115% of his otherwise expected salary for the prime of his career on July 1st."

Seriously, you talk a lot about kool-aid but clearly your the one(s) building some alternate reality to live in where these aren't moves being made by plenty of teams right now. This is the market reality, it doesn't matter what the market was last year, the year before that or even yesterday. Teams work with what is happening now. As they should. Just saying "Well I will just never sign anyone who doesn't agree to a perfectly reasonable deal, minus an extra 5%", is a great way to run a team into the ground. You will never sign or trade anyone. Business is a two way street, the people running the teams know that, which is why for example they are working in a multi-million dollar business as GM's, and you are here criticizing it.

I'm giving my opinion the same as you are giving yours.Nothing more.

Just that mine is different from your does not make either right.They are just our opinions.

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#26 John Kirsch
July 01 2014, 01:12PM
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@Jeff Lebowski

Honestly I would like to see Eichel, McDavid centering Hall in 2015 how sick would that be- or both :). Move RNH down to the 3rd line where he belongs...

All kidding aside Pouliot played well in the playoffs if he can keep up that level than the Oil made out. Giving him 5 years is a bit strange given the fact the player is a journeyman already at the tender age of 27.

I hope somehow they can grab Brian Boyle he is the type of player Edmonton needs!

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#27 Oilers
July 01 2014, 07:31PM
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AutoOiler wrote:

It took Lombardi 3 years to get the kings into the playoffs. Ending the kings 6 year drought. He focused on trading for and signing veterans. Thus allowing his prospects the time to develop properly.

Now let's give MacT 2 more years. And hope he's been paying attention to what Lombardi has done.

So when Mac T fails, are we all going to drink Lowes koolaid for his next cronie.

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#28 The Last Big Bear
July 01 2014, 12:17PM
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Scottyprime wrote:

Seriously....

B. Pouliot - 4mil per year until he's 32; mid 30's point production, quite good defensively, big body.

M. Michalek - 4 mil per year until he's 32; mid 30's point production (especially now that he's not with Spezza), mediocre defensively, big body.

B. Gionta - 4.25 per year until he's 38; early 40s point production. Good defensively, small body.

A. Hemsky - 4 mil per year until he's 33; mid 30's to 40's point production, possibly more on a full season with Spezza. Mediocre defensively, smallish body.

D. Bolland- 5.5 mil per year until he's 33; Maybe 30's point production, quite good defensively, smallish body.

Why is it that people think Pouliot is an overpay "by the comparables"? The whole league seems to think players in his range are worth what he are paying him, and he's arguably one of the best in that range, if not the best.

Also, the Ducks signed Clayton Stoner to a very similar contract to Fayne. Fayne is definitely a spot or two up on Stoner, and making a whopping 250k more.

How about these comparables?

Benoit Pouliot: $1.3m, signed for 1 year at age 26, after a 20 point lockout season, good defensively, big body.

Benoit Pouliot: $1.8m, signed for 1 year at age 25, 32 points on previous contract, good defensively, big body.

Benoit Pouliot: $1.1m, signed for 1 year at age 24, 30 points the previous season, good defensively, big body.

Benoit Pouliot: $1.375m, signed for 1 year at age 23, 28 points the precious season, good defensively, big body.

I'd say those are some pretty good comparables to 27 year old Benoit Pouliot.

He's been a fringe NHLer, bouncing from team to team on 1 year, $1-ish million contracts, not getting renewed, and having to look elsewhere.

The Oilers just signed the same player to triple the salary and five times the term that everyone else has been giving him.

This is not the kind of contract needed to land this kind of player, as objectively demonstrated by *this exact player*.

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#29 The Soup Fascist
July 01 2014, 02:33PM
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oilerretardationtofollow wrote:

Can the "Oilers domination yo follow" retard please stop posting that? Can the mods make a script that deletes any post with it? It's annoying.

You put the "ass" in "classless".

What is annoying is people who have not figured out that the word "retard" is really not acceptable in most circles.

Be better.

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#30 PutzStew
July 01 2014, 08:58PM
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Drowning in Oil wrote:

ANYONE WHO BITCHES ABOUT THE FACT THAT PLAYERS DONTBWANT TO COME TO EDMONTON....... IF YOU REALLY BELIEVE THIS, PLEASE EXPLAIN WHAT IS HAPPENING IN BUFFALO!!

THE FACT IS.... MAC T IS A FOOL!!

Don't forget class shown when Pronger left? Did you folks burn his furniture? How about Comrie being asked to pay money to be traded. The Surrey fiasco. Stoll, Green, Brewer, Penner all ran out of town. Have you seen the Six ring pressers? What about MacT's treatment of players or the way ownership screwed the city for a new rink.

I said it in an earlier post. Edmonton Oilers is like Fort Mac. No one really wants to be there but they over pay so bad that it can be worth your while if you want to sacrifice a few years. Now these player can site back and relax while they collect their paychecks. Good for them.

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#31 Fresh Mess
July 01 2014, 04:52PM
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The Soup Fascist wrote:

Ha ha. Now you are telling me "don't do this" and "don't do that" all the while berating me for trying to be controlling of others.

Arguing with an idiot (there, is that un-PC enough for you?) is like wrestling with a pig in the mud. At some point you realize the pig likes it. I have reached that point.

Have a nice day.

I was following the hockey news and feeling gay. But your queer comments changed that. Your use of the word "idiot" is insensitive to anyone who is developmentally delayed. Unacceptable.

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#32 They're $hittie
July 01 2014, 10:04AM
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Niskanen

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#33 Yammer
July 01 2014, 12:00PM
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@Craig1981

the guy couldn't make it in Calgary or Toronto but suddenly he'll fit right in Edmonton huh?

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#34 Serious Gord
July 01 2014, 04:50PM
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2004Z06 wrote:

How about these comparable's...

Oilers 2010-11...30th place...No one wants to play here Oilers 2011-12...29th place...No one wants to play here Oilers 2012-13...24th place... No one wants to play here Oilers 2013-14...27th place...No one wants to play here

What part of free agency and having to over pay for players to come here don't you understand?

Don't think your signature was on the contract either so why the hell do you care?

And the clown show the got the oil into this mess is still running things...

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#35 madjam
July 01 2014, 05:07PM
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Fickle ON fans . I said in another blog (Texaco) that it would be a success if we added two defenceman first day . 75% of ON trashed it , and the only one cheer was my own . Funny ON fans .

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#36 Spydyr
July 01 2014, 11:39AM
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Will wrote:

Fedun to San Jose, good for him. Bad for Oilers.

Funny how a much better team thinks Fedun is of use but the Oilers don't.

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#37 Smokey
July 01 2014, 10:35AM
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Andrew wrote:

What is wrong with our team? Why would we dish out such a huge overpayment so fast when we could get an equivalent player in a few days on a shorter deal.

I am completely miserable.

I agree, Nashville and Pheonix will pick up value deals of comparable players for 1 year at basement prices while we enjoy the Pouliot albatross for years to come.

Mark Fayne I can live with. Reasonable contrast, a much needed player.

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#38 The Last Big Bear
July 01 2014, 10:48AM
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Lofty wrote:

He's an actual NHL player that's going to play for the Oilers... Its an improvement.

The salary cap has gone up almost 20% over the last 5 years. Your $4 million dollar player now gets paid around $5. Inflation.

Pouliot has been in the NHL for 7 years, has averaged a cap hit of $1.4m, and has never been given more than 1 year of term and never retained by his previous team, since his ELC expired.

With no material improvement in play, he just got a $4m x 5 year contract.

That's not cap inflation. That's just a really bad contract.

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#39 Serious Gord
July 01 2014, 10:49AM
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Gionta to cgy.

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#40 They're $hittie
July 01 2014, 10:05AM
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or who ever the oilers get

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#41 Spydyr
July 01 2014, 12:47PM
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Wax Man Riley wrote:

I asked what you would pay for him.

I am MacT and you are 29 other GMs. What do you pay for Fedun?

Nothing.

He is not being traded for a draft pick, so the team lets him go to FA where he should be.

And I told you what I would pay for him in the first line:

"I would have given him the bare minimum to qualify him."

Did you miss that

Are you telling me Fedun would not of helped in the AHL and been a OK call up?

The same thing a much better team SJ is going to do with him.

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#42 jl
July 01 2014, 01:56PM
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@v4ance

Oiler douche,

flames are not ready to compete for a playoff spot, and are trying just to get to the floor.

Ill let the rest of you on here continue with telling the rest of us how "good your gonna be" good luck with the permanent rebuild.

Final thought 8-1 losers.

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#43 Fresh Mess
July 01 2014, 10:17AM
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Are they trading someone away? Why Pouliot?

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#44 Fresh Mess
July 01 2014, 03:50PM
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@The Soup Fascist

"I am not PC or thin-skinned"---> evidently you are, despite your disclaimer.

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#45 MattL
July 01 2014, 10:38AM
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Didn't MacT say at the end of the year that they weren't going to add any middle of the road second pairing Dmen? And we got two for $8M? I guess it's better than last year when we had all third pairing guys...

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#46 Will
July 01 2014, 11:36AM
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Whooo! Keith Aulie, More left shot D, More left shot D, comon everyone, lets chant it. We'll do the ooptioop, overload em on the left side and have tweeter beat em one on one.

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#47 Fresh Mess
July 01 2014, 01:21PM
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@MessyEH

There ya go spyder. No room here for posters who don't fantasize about giving Yakupov lap dances. If other GM s give out idiotic contracts it's OK for MacLooselips to do it too.

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#48 Silver
July 01 2014, 07:18PM
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Why oilers did not get? .

Andrej Meszaros $4.125M Buffalo Moulson, Matt $5M Buffalo Boyle, Brian $2M Tampa Bay

Great deals on these players.

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#49 Rob...
July 01 2014, 08:40PM
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Danger Pay wrote:

Ok, The IQ level of this conversation has gone way down. Your comparing using derogatory comments to advising someone they need to change a tire? I'm starting to understand why "Developmentally Challenged" run's in your family.

*see now you've gotten me to lower myself to your neanderthal level*

I am done with you and this terrible back and forth.

God, Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, The courage to change the things I can, And wisdom to know the difference. - Amen

Thanks for showing what human filth you really are. Your parents should be proud.

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#50 Fresh Mess
July 01 2014, 10:29AM
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@The Last Big Bear

It's a head scratcher for sure.

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