Free agency begins...Oilers sign Fayne and Pouliot

Jason Gregor
July 01 2014 10:02AM

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The Dallas Stars got a jump on the rest of the NHL when they acquired Jason Spezza and Ludvig Karlsson for Alec Chiasson, Alex Guptill, Nicholas Paul and 2nd round pick in 2015.

The West continues to get stronger, and if the Oilers plan to become competitive in two years they must develop Leon Draisaitl correctly. You need elite centres, two of them, to compete in the western conference. 

The Oilers won't get an elite centre in free agency, but they will try to find some quality veterans to help the Oilers young core become more competitive.

BREAKING...Oilers sign Mark Fayne to a four-year deal at $3.5 million/year and Benoit Pouliot for five years at $4 mill/year.

Former Oiler, Ales Hemsky, signs in Dallas for three years at $4 million/year 

Oilers sign Keith Aulie to a one-year deal. Good depth guy. He can be a #6/7 and it is better that he sits in the pressbox instead of a young D-man.

The Oilers will try to land a centre, a 3rd line left winger a 4th line right winger and some D-men.

They will go after players like Legwand, Goc, Grabovski, Jokinen, Boyle, Kulemin, Pouliot, Winnik, Fayne, Engelland, Stralman and Dan Boyle.

If they can land two of those players that would be a good day, if they get three would very good. We'll see what happens.

We will update you as the day unfolds.

Also, before we get to hockey I'd like to say Happy 147th birthday to The True North Strong and Free. I'm extremely lucky to have been born in this great country and make sure you celebrate our great Nation today.

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QUICK HITS...

  • With Dallas trading for Spezza, this puts even more pressure on St.Louis to try and sign Stastny. I like Stastny a lot, but if he gets $7mill/year that is huge money for a guy who is a great 2nd line centre.


  • Jarome Iginla and the Bruins might have to part ways because the Bs have limited cap space. Minnesota, Tampa Bay, Colorado and Detroit are interested. The Avs really like Iginla and want his experience and if they lose out on Stastny, which seems likely, they could go hard after Iggy.


  • Dave Bolland is my pick for biggest overpayment. Who is yours?

SIGNINGS BEGIN...

  • Penguins sign Ehrhoff for one year at $4 million. Good signing for Pens, especially with Maatta coming off shoulder surgery.
  • Manny Malhotra signs a one year, $850,000 deal with Montreal. Malhotra continues to be a great feel good story....
  • Mark Fayne at four years $3.5 million is a solid signing, but I don't see him more than a #4 long term. The most important part of this signing is that means the Oilers don't have to rush their young D-men.
  • Pouliot's five years concerns me. Time will tell, but that money for five years could be an issue in the future. He has played on five teams in five years. The Oilers needed a proven NHL player and he is that, but five years is major risk, IMO. Pouliot is a former #4 overall pick, so he does have some skill. I like that he is very aggressive on the forecheck and he will give the Oilers a good puck retriever.

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#51 Ryan2
July 01 2014, 11:11AM
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Slyers wrote:

Albatross ... Give me a break, at the most it is a million over pay, which is normal for a free agent. Do you really believe a million bucks is going to make any difference in 3-5 yrs with the cap continuing to go up. Also they could buy out if it gets really bad, it's 4 million not 7 like Horcoff a buy out would be nothing. Some of you bitch just to bitch, if Mac Tavish did nothing you whine, it's free agency you are competing with other teams you either over pay or watch and pray someone falls to you who you may or may not like. McT. Is doing well targeting usefull players with contracts that will not cripple us, well done!!!!

You are assuming that the salary cap goes up. There is no guarantee of that.

It was a big overpay in both term and $$$ for an underachieving former 1st round pick with consistency issues. He is essentially MacT's Pisani - Pouliot had a so-so year and a decent playoff and got rewarded for it. This will likely be another Gagner-like outcome in the end for the team........

The term is the head scratcher for me. At that length this contract will likely cause issues down the road. The good teams keep the core stars and develop cheap depth players to plug in and play as the more veteran ones get overpaid elsewhere. Unfortunately, the Oilers are nowhere near that stage yet so they have to overpay for depth players. Hopefully, likely 3 years out, they have enough NHL ready role players in the system that they do not have to do this and can focus the $$$ to upgrading the lineup or addressing true needs. MacT still needs some true NHL centers......

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#52 Spydyr
July 01 2014, 11:27AM
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SlowTalker wrote:

Spelling police here.

Shinny hockey is fun, but a SHINY new hockey player for the Oilers really makes me happy.

One extra letter.I'm so sorry I was not perfect.I will fix it for you.

Enjoy your new toy it sure is shiny today.

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#53 Spydyr
July 01 2014, 11:34AM
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Sevenseven wrote:

I spoke too soon, Another Marlies coke machine in Keith Aulie. The new Fraser. We have quite a few good d in okc. Why him?

Because Eakins.

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#54 Smokey
July 01 2014, 12:02PM
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YEGFan wrote:

I'm certainly not sold on the contract, but it is fair to note that it is paying for years where the player is under 32. If you're going to give a player term those are the years you should be buying.

I think you give long term to top 7 forwards and top 4 defense and starting goalies.

Oilers are better imminently, and we better get use to Pouliot, cause he might as well have a no trade contract.

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#55 The Last Big Bear
July 01 2014, 01:32PM
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@Scottyprime

Jesus buddy, switch to decaf or something.

It was a bad deal. Lots of bad deals get signed on July 1st. For example, all of those other bad deals that you used to compare to this one.

I see you're not used to having people disagree with you very often, but describing people who disagree with you as being delusional, constructing straw-man arguments, and making appeals to authority, those all pretty much indicate that you are unable to reasonably discuss a topic.

Especially when your appeal to authority is that the Oilers management are experts who know what they're doing are running a multimillion dollar business on the merit of their business acumen. They are running the Oilers because they played with Wayne Gretzky, and the owner thinks that's awesome.

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#56 GCW
July 01 2014, 03:56PM
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When you compare the Pouliot contract to those given Raymond and Perault it looks like MacT made a massive overpayment. Market was calling for 3 x 3 and the Oilers paid 4 x 5. That's about $11M too much.

When you add in Hendricks, Nikitin and Pouliot, each overpaid by about $1M, we are talking about not being able to add a solid line player second pairing defender because MacT wasting cap space.

When you next hear depth is a problem for the Oilers, remember that.

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#57 HardBoiledOil
July 01 2014, 04:23PM
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pretty good moves for some useful players today, but still waiting for MacT's "bold" moves. i think Jim Nill in Dallas has made "bold" moves the last couple of years, acquiring Seguin, Spezza and Hemsky.

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#58 backup bob
July 01 2014, 06:16PM
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I give MacTavish a B- or a C+.

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#59 KozyMel
July 01 2014, 08:04PM
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@The Soup Fascist

".... is the team better or worse since MacT took the helm?"

Well, technically - worse.

The team he took over had just finished 24th overall, an improvement of 5 places from the previous season.

In his first year, with the changes he made, they dropped to 27th.

That's the pure statistical fact.

So in the first year under a pure 100% rookie GM, with 'NO' GM, A/GM or \AHL GM experience, there was some mistakes make.

Has he learned from them - I guess we will see.

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#60 Grant
July 02 2014, 12:02AM
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Troll Police wrote:

Please go back to your fLamer site. Your Putz is showing and you're embarrassing yourself. We don't care what you have to say so please Troll elsewhere.

Loser!!

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#61 Spydyr
July 01 2014, 11:25AM
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pelhem grenville wrote:

"...Pouliot signed with Florida a while ago..."

Spydyr...huh?

Opps meant Yokinen .

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#62 Spydyr
July 01 2014, 12:17PM
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Soccer Steve wrote:

I don't spend any money on the Oilers so it ain't mine.

Show me a maxed-out at-the-cap team and I'll show you a scenario where they get around it. It so often doesn't matter yet people (like you) still moan about other people spending money.

One example: Horcoff and that whole situation. He could've retired an Oil legend - for better or worse - but we (you) ran him out of town because he signed the dotted line in front of him. EVERYONE would've signed that line, yet people still dumped their crap all over him.

Please explain how I ran Horcoff out of town.Never knew I had that kind of pull.

I never once blamed Horcoff for signing the contract I blamed Lowe for offering it.

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#63 Spydyr
July 01 2014, 12:29PM
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Scottyprime wrote:

Apparently it is, as objectively demonstrated by the last 3 hours and at least 5 actual NHL GM's(not even counting any of the other GM's who have sought and paid other middle-lineup players big deals this morning, like Washington, Toronto or New Jersey, all of which who also signed OLD players to those deals).

Times change, markets change, who could have guessed?

The market went up four times overnight?

OK than.

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#64 Rob...
July 01 2014, 04:28PM
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Danger Pay wrote:

Yukon Jack...really? Wow, way to make an argument based on what a "Radio Personality" said on the radio once upon a time.

So, according to you and Moron Jack... it's ok to use the "N" word in public, just as long as it's not directed to your Black Relatives and only if it's directed at other people who are not Black.

You two are the definition of "Idiots".

Yes really. So I'm guessing if Yukon Jack pulled up beside you and told you that you had a flat tire, you'd call him him an idiot and flip him off, because obviously he isn't capable of stating anything that's true. I never stated that anything the guy said was golden, I said he had a great rant. It would take more than an idiot to understand that I guess. You prove my point and likely have been called an r'tard behind your back more than once.

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#65 Serious Gord
July 01 2014, 09:54PM
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Serious Gord wrote:

Expanding hockey into new markets is a bad thing? With that kind of logic we would still have only six teams.

Two trashes of the above means two ON participants who would rather the oil never existed.

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#66 Spydyr
July 01 2014, 10:55AM
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Mo Playoffs Mo Problems wrote:

"We dug ourselves a hole here, so we'll just have to dig ourselves out. Spend our way outta this mess!"

Exactly, and it very seldom works out.

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#67 RJ
July 01 2014, 11:26AM
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If you read non-oiler message boards, pouliot is in the running for worst contract.

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#68 Paulghar
July 01 2014, 01:24PM
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Offer sheet johansen 6mil for 6 years

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#69 nuge2nail
July 01 2014, 02:07PM
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MessyEH wrote:

I'm sorry. After reading thread, after thread, of this guy preaching about a players draft number, being an indicator of value, that supercedes what they have accomplished post draft. I have little, to zero, respect for them.

The negatively towards "allthingsOilers " is just as bad as the Kool Aid drinking, glass heel wearing fan boys, that also comment here.

If you are not an Oilers fan, (and you can't be if you hate everything they do, and every move they make.) Or, only call call yourself one for what they did 24+ years ago and/or geography. Then why come here? To be negative all the time?

I am sure that there are more productive things that a rising star of the NHL General managers guild could be doing.

*Drops mic. And salutes with middle finger.*

In MacT we trust.

Oiler Domination To Follow

I agree 100%. If you hate the oilers management, hate the coaches, the roster and all the new players that join the team...

How can you call yourself an Oilers fan?

Seems like we have a ton of DSFs on steroids posting negative comments on a regular basis.

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#70 Serious Gord
July 01 2014, 08:15PM
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Johnnydapunk wrote:

I was thinking that at first and still did for a while, but when he bought the Oil Kings, Condors and Barons (though it may be just the franchise and whatever he still has control) I actually think he is putting together a nice little setup to develop and have the control to develop not only players, but staff and coaches and that's a pretty intelligent move.

In the end, he is a businessman and fans and sponsors will only take so much of being terrible before they all disappear, and as Oil fans are loyal as fook and at a breaking point I'm sure, he needs to make this team competitive and he is spending the money to do that. The Arena target makes sense to me but it's only speculation of course.

I don't expect miracles, but I like progress and I think that was made today.

Besides his dream of a cup win with the old boys network in tow, he has plans to create a northern version of anshcutz or a western Canadian version of MLSE. The teams mentioned above were aquired primarily for business purposes - not winning.

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#71 Smokey
July 01 2014, 11:01AM
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Sevenseven wrote:

Hope we see a #2 center coming.

Ollay Ollay Ollay Ollay Ollay Yokinen in on the way is where I hedge my bet.

Will the Oilers give him 3 years 5 million, please no.

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#72 Spydyr
July 01 2014, 11:13AM
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Smokey wrote:

Ollay Ollay Ollay Ollay Ollay Yokinen in on the way is where I hedge my bet.

Will the Oilers give him 3 years 5 million, please no.

Yokinen signed with Florida a while ago.

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#73 Will
July 01 2014, 12:48PM
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It's nice to see all the players I was glad the Oilers didn't have to play against, have now all come back to the West, and then some. Who will score more goals against the Oilers, Iginla or Hemsky?

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#74 Dunk7
July 01 2014, 03:47PM
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Greg the Hammer Valentine wrote:

OK now, I'm gonna rain on everybody's parade and get a ton of trashes. Pouliot for five years IS the worst contract of the day. It will make the Eric Bélanger contract look good. I have seen Pouliot play (second team I follow is the Habs) and believe me, he's a 3rd liner who doesn't bring it every night. That's worth 4mil a year???? Talk about cashing in on your team's playoff success.

This is the time of year when your team can do no wrong. I remember people here being excited by Bélanger / Eager / Barker a few years ago. I also remember this winter some folks tought 1.85 m / year was an overpay for Hendricks. It looks like a bargain now.

I think Wanye got his goat of the year.

Honestly thought the exact same thing...this feels very similar to the Belanger/Eager/Barker year ...everyone getting excited third/fourth liners and depth defencemen. I'm certainly not reserving my spot in the parade. More like setting my PVR for the McDavid draft.

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#75 Jeffff
July 01 2014, 04:09PM
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I thought Kulemin would be a perfect fit for Edmonton a good 2-way forward , also he would help Yakupov learning curve.

Mact d/n mention Yakupov in his pressor. My guess they will be trading Yakupov

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#76 KozyMel
July 01 2014, 05:22PM
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@Johnnydapunk

I don't thing Daryl "Harold Ballard" Katz has put one bit of pressure on any of these guys.

He has his NHL toy and that's all that matters.

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#77 RexHolez
July 01 2014, 05:56PM
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if gagner stays healthy and the coyotes play dubnyk, we might win a game next year

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#78 Hockey fan
July 02 2014, 12:23AM
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Serious Gord wrote:

Besides his dream of a cup win with the old boys network in tow, he has plans to create a northern version of anshcutz or a western Canadian version of MLSE. The teams mentioned above were aquired primarily for business purposes - not winning.

Serious Gord nails it, as usual. It's funny how Oiler fan still thinks The Carpetbagger gives a flyign fk about the on-ice product. He's in it for the green. Nothing else. Wake up.

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#79 They're $hittie
July 01 2014, 10:07AM
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there goes erhoff

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#80 Smokey
July 01 2014, 11:12AM
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SlowTalker wrote:

Are you tracking this? Raymond 3yr 9.5 mill.

You corrected yourself but jeez..Marc Pouliot??

Raymond earned it. That's reasonable. I was not saying Raymond could be had again for that this year. He was an example from last year which I assumed you understood.

I think Poo is a good an example too from last year. These types are available on reasonable 1 and 2 year deals. Phoenix and Nashville have consistently let stupid GM's sign 3rd liners to term and scooped up and gotten value deals on equal talent.

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#81 SlowTalker
July 01 2014, 11:23AM
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Spydyr wrote:

Free agent day is like Christmas to the kool-aid drinkers.Every new toy is bright and shiny.Wait a season or two and those new toys are either broken or not as shiny.

Spelling police here.

Shinny hockey is fun, but a SHINY new hockey player for the Oilers really makes me happy.

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#82 Will
July 01 2014, 11:31AM
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TCG wrote:

I just noticed on TSN Free Agent list that the Oilers have signed Keith Aulie. Big D - 6'6" 230lbs.

The new Mark Fraser, hurray!!!

Why are the Oilers always taking Leafs' 7th defenceman?

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#83 Number99
July 01 2014, 03:30PM
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Rob... wrote:

Yukon Jack had a great rant about the words people choose to take offence at. I have mentally handicapped relatives, but am not offended by r'tard when used to describe a non-handicapped person who chooses not to use their brain. Look up the term 'idiot' and you'll see that there was a time when it was used to describe someone who was mentally handicapped. We 'choose' to not be offended by that but, my god, heaven forbid you use the r-word to describe someone who fails to think something through.

If I ever hear someone use that 'r'-word against someone with a true mental handicap, I'll be the first to tear them a new one, but for god's sake, grow up and understand context when words are used.

Using the term "retard" as an equivalent to idiot is the same as using the term "gay" in reference to something negative or disappointing. It perpetuates negativity and social stigmas, regardless of context.

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#84 Fresh Mess
July 01 2014, 03:46PM
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Number99 wrote:

Using the term "retard" as an equivalent to idiot is the same as using the term "gay" in reference to something negative or disappointing. It perpetuates negativity and social stigmas, regardless of context.

how do you figure that? They have the same meaning. Who decides these things, you and your friends?

Toughen up, or cut yourself off from all media. The faux urbane, sanctimonious, chronically offended bit is old.

what about gay as happy? Is that alright or should it also be banned because your delicate sensibilities can't handle it?

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#85 Danger Pay
July 01 2014, 04:47PM
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Rob... wrote:

Yes really. So I'm guessing if Yukon Jack pulled up beside you and told you that you had a flat tire, you'd call him him an idiot and flip him off, because obviously he isn't capable of stating anything that's true. I never stated that anything the guy said was golden, I said he had a great rant. It would take more than an idiot to understand that I guess. You prove my point and likely have been called an r'tard behind your back more than once.

Ok, The IQ level of this conversation has gone way down. Your comparing using derogatory comments to advising someone they need to change a tire? I'm starting to understand why "Developmentally Challenged" run's in your family.

*see now you've gotten me to lower myself to your neanderthal level*

I am done with you and this terrible back and forth.

God, Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, The courage to change the things I can, And wisdom to know the difference. - Amen

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#86 camdog
July 01 2014, 05:47PM
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nuge2nail wrote:

Oiler Domination To Follow

I agree 100%. If you hate the oilers management, hate the coaches, the roster and all the new players that join the team...

How can you call yourself an Oilers fan?

Seems like we have a ton of DSFs on steroids posting negative comments on a regular basis.

You sound like a leaf fan. Blind loyalty to the team is as bad as the DSF negative posters.

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#87 Smokey
July 01 2014, 10:40AM
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I meant Beniot, oops.

Wrong POO

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#88 Serious Gord
July 01 2014, 10:51AM
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So is Petry toast? Thought I heard that on the sn feed

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#89 Spydyr
July 01 2014, 10:53AM
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Free agency: The day GM's try to fix their mistakes by throwing insane amounts of money and term at players.

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#90 Smokey
July 01 2014, 10:59AM
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v4ance wrote:

Bolland 5x $5.5 with FLA ????

Winner of bad contract of the day.... so far...

With little tax in Florida, Bolland makes as much most superstars. I'd take that over POO.

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#91 Spydyr
July 01 2014, 12:28PM
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Wax Man Riley wrote:

It must be because The Oilers are stupid. He was undrafted so he has no value.

Or they allowed him to go to free agency because that is where he would be if he didn't have his leg broke.

Actually the trick is moving an undrafted player something that the team spent no draft picks on for something of value.The Bryzgalov pick up and trade was an example of that.Getting something for nothing.

Letting him walk for nothing puts you no further ahead of the game.

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#92 Scottyprime
July 01 2014, 12:39PM
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@Spydyr

If Last Bear and yourself wish to tell yourself that its all just the Oilers being fools that's cool. I just like to base my expectations and opinions on recent and applicable facts, not how things would be if we were living 1-5 years in the past.

Its really a fools errand to say "Well IF this was 2012, and IF the other 29 teams agreed to intentionally leave good players on the table until July 10, and IF those players would then totally agree to take the Oilers low ball offer over any other teams, THEN the Oilers would be really stupid to sign a totally usable player like BP to a deal at about 115% of his otherwise expected salary for the prime of his career on July 1st."

Seriously, you talk a lot about kool-aid but clearly your the one(s) building some alternate reality to live in where these aren't moves being made by plenty of teams right now. This is the market reality, it doesn't matter what the market was last year, the year before that or even yesterday. Teams work with what is happening now. As they should. Just saying "Well I will just never sign anyone who doesn't agree to a perfectly reasonable deal, minus an extra 5%", is a great way to run a team into the ground. You will never sign or trade anyone. Business is a two way street, the people running the teams know that, which is why for example they are working in a multi-million dollar business as GM's, and you are here criticizing it.

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#93 madjam
July 01 2014, 02:19PM
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Still plenty of Center to be had and we need another RW . Boyle and Vrbata still available ?

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#94 Rob...
July 01 2014, 03:22PM
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The Soup Fascist wrote:

You put the "ass" in "classless".

What is annoying is people who have not figured out that the word "retard" is really not acceptable in most circles.

Be better.

Yukon Jack had a great rant about the words people choose to take offence at. I have mentally handicapped relatives, but am not offended by r'tard when used to describe a non-handicapped person who chooses not to use their brain. Look up the term 'idiot' and you'll see that there was a time when it was used to describe someone who was mentally handicapped. We 'choose' to not be offended by that but, my god, heaven forbid you use the r-word to describe someone who fails to think something through.

If I ever hear someone use that 'r'-word against someone with a true mental handicap, I'll be the first to tear them a new one, but for god's sake, grow up and understand context when words are used.

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#95 Number99
July 01 2014, 03:25PM
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The Soup Fascist wrote:

You put the "ass" in "classless".

What is annoying is people who have not figured out that the word "retard" is really not acceptable in most circles.

Be better.

Thank you.

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#96 Ivan Drago
July 01 2014, 04:11PM
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Danger Pay wrote:

Yukon Jack...really? Wow, way to make an argument based on what a "Radio Personality" said on the radio once upon a time.

So, according to you and Moron Jack... it's ok to use the "N" word in public, just as long as it's not directed to your Black Relatives and only if it's directed at other people who are not Black.

You two are the definition of "Idiots".

So 'moron' is ok but retard isn't? Lol good one. Now for a question, if black people can call each other the N word, which they do on a regular basis, why can't white people?

Oh yeah and back to hockey MacT is soooo much more refreshing than Tambo. And I like his signings today, little long in term with Pouliot, but market prob dictated that

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#97 Quicksilver ballet
July 01 2014, 05:11PM
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I'd give Craig a B- on todays efforts. He did better than I thought he might.

He needs to sit tight now and let teams come to him now. There are more than a few clubs with cap concerns. They could have an surprise addition now that a few teams need to shed a contract or two. Be patient during this buyers market for teams who overspent.

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#98 2004Z06
July 01 2014, 06:49PM
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Serious Gord wrote:

And the clown show the got the oil into this mess is still running things...

No argument there!

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#99 Johnnydapunk
July 01 2014, 07:17PM
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KozyMel wrote:

I don't thing Daryl "Harold Ballard" Katz has put one bit of pressure on any of these guys.

He has his NHL toy and that's all that matters.

I was thinking that at first and still did for a while, but when he bought the Oil Kings, Condors and Barons (though it may be just the franchise and whatever he still has control) I actually think he is putting together a nice little setup to develop and have the control to develop not only players, but staff and coaches and that's a pretty intelligent move.

In the end, he is a businessman and fans and sponsors will only take so much of being terrible before they all disappear, and as Oil fans are loyal as fook and at a breaking point I'm sure, he needs to make this team competitive and he is spending the money to do that. The Arena target makes sense to me but it's only speculation of course.

I don't expect miracles, but I like progress and I think that was made today.

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#100 Gk1980
July 01 2014, 08:27PM
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Ed in Edmonton wrote:

The Oil have paid more for Pouliot and Nikitin than most other teams would have to. However, as the they have plenty of cap room, at least for this year and likely next as well, what is the downside of this? It's just a few more $ out of the K man's pocket. Would it have been a better result if MacT had tried to get more economical deals and come up with nothing?

That's a sad reality if hockey these days. Canadian players trained and playing in Canada give the maple leaf the big middle finger and go to Warner cities down south. Thanks bettman.

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