Free agency begins...Oilers sign Fayne and Pouliot

Jason Gregor
July 01 2014 10:02AM

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The Dallas Stars got a jump on the rest of the NHL when they acquired Jason Spezza and Ludvig Karlsson for Alec Chiasson, Alex Guptill, Nicholas Paul and 2nd round pick in 2015.

The West continues to get stronger, and if the Oilers plan to become competitive in two years they must develop Leon Draisaitl correctly. You need elite centres, two of them, to compete in the western conference. 

The Oilers won't get an elite centre in free agency, but they will try to find some quality veterans to help the Oilers young core become more competitive.

BREAKING...Oilers sign Mark Fayne to a four-year deal at $3.5 million/year and Benoit Pouliot for five years at $4 mill/year.

Former Oiler, Ales Hemsky, signs in Dallas for three years at $4 million/year 

Oilers sign Keith Aulie to a one-year deal. Good depth guy. He can be a #6/7 and it is better that he sits in the pressbox instead of a young D-man.

The Oilers will try to land a centre, a 3rd line left winger a 4th line right winger and some D-men.

They will go after players like Legwand, Goc, Grabovski, Jokinen, Boyle, Kulemin, Pouliot, Winnik, Fayne, Engelland, Stralman and Dan Boyle.

If they can land two of those players that would be a good day, if they get three would very good. We'll see what happens.

We will update you as the day unfolds.

Also, before we get to hockey I'd like to say Happy 147th birthday to The True North Strong and Free. I'm extremely lucky to have been born in this great country and make sure you celebrate our great Nation today.

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QUICK HITS...

  • With Dallas trading for Spezza, this puts even more pressure on St.Louis to try and sign Stastny. I like Stastny a lot, but if he gets $7mill/year that is huge money for a guy who is a great 2nd line centre.


  • Jarome Iginla and the Bruins might have to part ways because the Bs have limited cap space. Minnesota, Tampa Bay, Colorado and Detroit are interested. The Avs really like Iginla and want his experience and if they lose out on Stastny, which seems likely, they could go hard after Iggy.


  • Dave Bolland is my pick for biggest overpayment. Who is yours?

SIGNINGS BEGIN...

  • Penguins sign Ehrhoff for one year at $4 million. Good signing for Pens, especially with Maatta coming off shoulder surgery.
  • Manny Malhotra signs a one year, $850,000 deal with Montreal. Malhotra continues to be a great feel good story....
  • Mark Fayne at four years $3.5 million is a solid signing, but I don't see him more than a #4 long term. The most important part of this signing is that means the Oilers don't have to rush their young D-men.
  • Pouliot's five years concerns me. Time will tell, but that money for five years could be an issue in the future. He has played on five teams in five years. The Oilers needed a proven NHL player and he is that, but five years is major risk, IMO. Pouliot is a former #4 overall pick, so he does have some skill. I like that he is very aggressive on the forecheck and he will give the Oilers a good puck retriever.

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#101 michael
July 01 2014, 09:51PM
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Drowning in Oil wrote:

ANYONE WHO BITCHES ABOUT THE FACT THAT PLAYERS DONTBWANT TO COME TO EDMONTON....... IF YOU REALLY BELIEVE THIS, PLEASE EXPLAIN WHAT IS HAPPENING IN BUFFALO!!

THE FACT IS.... MAC T IS A FOOL!!

You know I like posting on this site and enjoy the opinions of other posters also. The difference between your post and those I enjoy is that the ones I enjoy show thought, intelligence and actually knowledge of hockey.

Spewing unintelligent thought not backed up with fact just shows us how irrelevant you are. This will be the one and only response you will receive from me ever.

Show some class and go troll elsewhere.

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#102 Spydyr
July 01 2014, 10:22AM
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Fayne appears OK to me at the moment.

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#103 Spydyr
July 01 2014, 10:38AM
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Stastny to blues 4years 7 mill

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#104 Spydyr
July 01 2014, 10:42AM
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Jussi to Panthers....Glad that player passed the Oilers by.

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#105 Scottyprime
July 01 2014, 11:40AM
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Seriously....

B. Pouliot - 4mil per year until he's 32; mid 30's point production, quite good defensively, big body.

M. Michalek - 4 mil per year until he's 32; mid 30's point production (especially now that he's not with Spezza), mediocre defensively, big body.

B. Gionta - 4.25 per year until he's 38; early 40s point production. Good defensively, small body.

A. Hemsky - 4 mil per year until he's 33; mid 30's to 40's point production, possibly more on a full season with Spezza. Mediocre defensively, smallish body.

D. Bolland- 5.5 mil per year until he's 33; Maybe 30's point production, quite good defensively, smallish body.

Why is it that people think Pouliot is an overpay "by the comparables"? The whole league seems to think players in his range are worth what he are paying him, and he's arguably one of the best in that range, if not the best.

Also, the Ducks signed Clayton Stoner to a very similar contract to Fayne. Fayne is definitely a spot or two up on Stoner, and making a whopping 250k more.

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#106 Soccer Steve
July 01 2014, 12:19PM
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Spydyr wrote:

Please explain how I ran Horcoff out of town.Never knew I had that kind of pull.

I never once blamed Horcoff for signing the contract I blamed Lowe for offering it.

Aaaand I win the debate. Good luck next time.

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#107 nuge2nail
July 01 2014, 12:23PM
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Oiler Domination To Follow

MacT has about 14 million in Cap left.

Pick up Grabovski at 5x4 and call it a solid offseason.

Nikitin, Fayne, Pouliout, Purcell, Grabovski

Picking up players who are used to winning from winning organizations- should rub off on the rest of the roster.

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#108 Randaman
July 01 2014, 01:18PM
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Spydyr wrote:

The market went up four times overnight?

OK than.

Hey Spyder, you have a very exciting rebuilding team that you can follow and cheer for right there in Calgary so please SHUT UP or apply for a position as a GM so we can see if you are really as smart as you seem to think you are

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#109 Danger Pay
July 01 2014, 02:42PM
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@oilerretardationtofollow

Would the moderator kindly moderate this Display Name, Please. It would also be appreciated if all comments by this person were removed. Thank you

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#110 Danger Pay
July 01 2014, 03:53PM
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@Rob...

Yukon Jack...really? Wow, way to make an argument based on what a "Radio Personality" said on the radio once upon a time.

So, according to you and Moron Jack... it's ok to use the "N" word in public, just as long as it's not directed to your Black Relatives and only if it's directed at other people who are not Black.

You two are the definition of "Idiots".

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#111 Fresh Mess
July 01 2014, 04:05PM
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The Soup Fascist wrote:

I suppose if I say the "n-word" is offensive, that I am PC and thin skinned too?

Again, if stating my opinion makes me a bad guy - so be it. If you approve of those words that is your prerogative.

Fill your boots.

You can be as offended as you want to be. Just don't expect everyone to conform to your whims.

And if you need to call out others with sanctimonious outrage to make yourself feel righteous, then expect backlash.

Not everyone is down with heavy handed censorship to appease the shrill pious types.

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#112 Fresh Mess
July 01 2014, 04:33PM
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The Soup Fascist wrote:

Because I disagree with you, I am pious and sanctimonious? How hypocritical of you.

I am not expecting anyone to conform. But don't be shocked if you get called on it if you use the word "retard" or drop n-bombs. I disagree with it but I can't control how you think or speak.

First off, don't flip positions and claim 'to each their own' when you are the one who started this with your soap box outrage. That is hypocritical.

Ypu're not expecting anyone to conform, you just don't want them to be able to say what you don't want to hear. whatever.

Second, I didn't use either of the words you mention.

I'm glad you recognize you can't control the way I think.

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#113 The Last Big Bear
July 01 2014, 06:53PM
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2004Z06 wrote:

How about these comparable's...

Oilers 2010-11...30th place...No one wants to play here Oilers 2011-12...29th place...No one wants to play here Oilers 2012-13...24th place... No one wants to play here Oilers 2013-14...27th place...No one wants to play here

What part of free agency and having to over pay for players to come here don't you understand?

Don't think your signature was on the contract either so why the hell do you care?

I know WHY the Oilers have to overpay to get UFAs.

I was debating with someone who claimed that this was NOT an overpay, and that this is just the going market price for players like Pouliot, which is clearly not the case.

The other issue is that while the Oilers may need to overpay to draw certain players, I honestly do not believe that any team, even the Oilers, needs to drop a $20m long-term deal to bring in a 3rd line winger.

I didn't sign the contract, so why the hell should I care?

I'm talking about hockey, on a HOCKEY BLOG. Are you lost or something? What do you think we are ALL doing here?

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#114 Grant
July 01 2014, 08:05PM
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Good job by Mact today!

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#115 Troll Police
July 01 2014, 11:32PM
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PutzStew wrote:

Don't forget class shown when Pronger left? Did you folks burn his furniture? How about Comrie being asked to pay money to be traded. The Surrey fiasco. Stoll, Green, Brewer, Penner all ran out of town. Have you seen the Six ring pressers? What about MacT's treatment of players or the way ownership screwed the city for a new rink.

I said it in an earlier post. Edmonton Oilers is like Fort Mac. No one really wants to be there but they over pay so bad that it can be worth your while if you want to sacrifice a few years. Now these player can site back and relax while they collect their paychecks. Good for them.

Please go back to your fLamer site. Your Putz is showing and you're embarrassing yourself. We don't care what you have to say so please Troll elsewhere.

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#116 Spydyr
July 01 2014, 10:41AM
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Gilbert to Habs

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#117 The Last Big Bear
July 01 2014, 11:22AM
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Sevenseven wrote:

Hey numbers people, how do the oilers stack up size and weight wise now? At least they addressed the size issue, and not with coke machines.

Well, the column of thin air that currently occupies the #2C position is going to bring the average weight down significantly.

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#118 Smokey
July 01 2014, 11:25AM
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Will wrote:

Not back with Spezza, back with Horcoff. CAAAAAANNNNNN you FEeeeeel the LOOOOUUUUUUve 2Nyyyyyyght toooniiiiiiiite.

Jim Nill is my hero...Dallas looks poised to take a run if they can get a puck mover.

Hemsky and Spezza playing soft minutes will be scary.

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#119 Sevenseven
July 01 2014, 11:33AM
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Sevenseven wrote:

Hey numbers people, how do the oilers stack up size and weight wise now? At least they addressed the size issue, and not with coke machines.

I spoke too soon, Another Marlies coke machine in Keith Aulie. The new Fraser. We have quite a few good d in okc. Why him?

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#120 Will
July 01 2014, 11:38AM
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Fedun to San Jose, good for him. Bad for Oilers.

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#121 Mo Playoffs Mo Problems
July 01 2014, 11:46AM
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Serious Gord wrote:

Hillier to cgy.

MacT/Klowe have made a very risky bet on two goalies with less than a seasons worth of experience - could have gotten hiller or Niemi. If the bet fails everything else is irrelevant.

Why?

Edmonton won't win the cup next year even if their goaltenders play out of their minds. If they play terrible, then MacT can replace one or both of them.

Goalies become available every year and they can be had for minimal assets, but having 2 goalies who are young with a lot to prove pushing each other isn't a bad approach. Hopefully by the time the team develops into a playoff contender, one of the goalies has established himself as a reliable #1.

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#122 Serious Gord
July 01 2014, 11:52AM
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Mo Playoffs Mo Problems wrote:

Why?

Edmonton won't win the cup next year even if their goaltenders play out of their minds. If they play terrible, then MacT can replace one or both of them.

Goalies become available every year and they can be had for minimal assets, but having 2 goalies who are young with a lot to prove pushing each other isn't a bad approach. Hopefully by the time the team develops into a playoff contender, one of the goalies has established himself as a reliable #1.

Last season showed what happens to a team when the goaltending crashes and burns - a lost season not just from a contending standpoint but from a development and morale standpoint.

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#123 Soccer Steve
July 01 2014, 12:01PM
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It must be tough for you guys who figure the contracts are too steep for the new signings. Considering how much of your own money you sunk into them.

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#124 Will
July 01 2014, 12:08PM
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Craig1981 wrote:

He is a HUGE guy that can be the 7th D-man. You don't want your young prospects playing only 15-25 games a year riding the bench when they do, you want them in the AHL earning big mins. This is what this signing is for

Fraser was a Huge guy, so was Fistrick, and Sutton. These number 7 defence types have not really helped our team be better. I agree with all your points, I really just wanted to make a reference to Tweeter from Varsity Blues.

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#125 Wax Man Riley
July 01 2014, 12:23PM
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Spydyr wrote:

Funny how a much better team thinks Fedun is of use but the Oilers don't.

It must be because The Oilers are stupid. He was undrafted so he has no value.

Or they allowed him to go to free agency because that is where he would be if he didn't have his leg broke.

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#126 Grant
July 01 2014, 12:31PM
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Spydyr wrote:

Stop making sense,It ruins the taste of the kool-aid.

The kook aid crap is getting a little old " Jim Jones ".

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#127 Burnward
July 01 2014, 12:50PM
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Jeff Lebowski wrote:

I'm a Flames fan. MacT has been decisive and improved his team. Good fit players brought in.

He has schooled CGY. This sucks.

Hahaha!!!!

Nicely played Lebowski.

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#128 Will
July 01 2014, 02:25PM
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And the biggest free agent signing of the day finally goes down! Devun D comes back west to the dessert dogs.

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#129 Will
July 01 2014, 03:48PM
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Max wrote:

I for one wish Devan all the very best and good luck. His season (and life probably) imploded and it was sorry to see. He has Sam waiting down there and has a chance to redeem himself and reclaim his confidence. Good luck Duby, you deserve it.

Meh, as someone that has already made more money than I will ever make, I can't feel too bad for a guy that cost the team I pay to cheer for their season.

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#130 2004Z06
July 01 2014, 04:25PM
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The Last Big Bear wrote:

How about these comparables?

Benoit Pouliot: $1.3m, signed for 1 year at age 26, after a 20 point lockout season, good defensively, big body.

Benoit Pouliot: $1.8m, signed for 1 year at age 25, 32 points on previous contract, good defensively, big body.

Benoit Pouliot: $1.1m, signed for 1 year at age 24, 30 points the previous season, good defensively, big body.

Benoit Pouliot: $1.375m, signed for 1 year at age 23, 28 points the precious season, good defensively, big body.

I'd say those are some pretty good comparables to 27 year old Benoit Pouliot.

He's been a fringe NHLer, bouncing from team to team on 1 year, $1-ish million contracts, not getting renewed, and having to look elsewhere.

The Oilers just signed the same player to triple the salary and five times the term that everyone else has been giving him.

This is not the kind of contract needed to land this kind of player, as objectively demonstrated by *this exact player*.

How about these comparable's...

Oilers 2010-11...30th place...No one wants to play here Oilers 2011-12...29th place...No one wants to play here Oilers 2012-13...24th place... No one wants to play here Oilers 2013-14...27th place...No one wants to play here

What part of free agency and having to over pay for players to come here don't you understand?

Don't think your signature was on the contract either so why the hell do you care?

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#131 Serious Gord
July 01 2014, 09:26PM
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Gk1980 wrote:

That's a sad reality if hockey these days. Canadian players trained and playing in Canada give the maple leaf the big middle finger and go to Warner cities down south. Thanks bettman.

Expanding hockey into new markets is a bad thing? With that kind of logic we would still have only six teams.

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#132 Drowning in Oil
July 02 2014, 12:08AM
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michael wrote:

You know I like posting on this site and enjoy the opinions of other posters also. The difference between your post and those I enjoy is that the ones I enjoy show thought, intelligence and actually knowledge of hockey.

Spewing unintelligent thought not backed up with fact just shows us how irrelevant you are. This will be the one and only response you will receive from me ever.

Show some class and go troll elsewhere.

Lol, great response. You must already have your season tickets. Enjoy the show! Gonna be worth it for sure.

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#133 Spydyr
July 01 2014, 10:24AM
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Now for that #2 center.......via trade?

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#134 Privateeye
July 01 2014, 10:24AM
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$3.5/ year for Fayne is a steal

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#135 Spydyr
July 01 2014, 10:44AM
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Anyone do the math after reasonable signings for Shultz and Petry how much magic money do they have left?

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#136 FISH
July 01 2014, 11:31AM
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Fresh Mess wrote:

8.5 million on Purcell and Pouliot. Ouch. I don't get why they would sign Pouliot unless they are about to trade one of their wingers. Hopefully it's Yakupov.

just wanted to point out ho much of an idiot your are, i would think your terry jones trying to trade yakupov.

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#137 ?
July 01 2014, 12:34PM
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nuge2nail wrote:

Oiler Domination To Follow

MacT has about 14 million in Cap left.

Pick up Grabovski at 5x4 and call it a solid offseason.

Nikitin, Fayne, Pouliout, Purcell, Grabovski

Picking up players who are used to winning from winning organizations- should rub off on the rest of the roster.

Picking up players who are used to winning from winning organizations- should rub off on the rest of the roster.

Winning organizations? Nikitin played in COL, which made the playoffs this year for the FIRST TIME since 2007. Fayne played in NJ, which made it to the finals in 2012, and hasn't made the playoffs since. Purcell is from a TB organization that last had a deep playoff run in 2011. Grabovski is from MTL/TOR, hardly the stuff of legend.

Pouliot is literally the only guy to come from a team that has made it deep into the playoffs recently.

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#138 Jeff Lebowski
July 01 2014, 12:41PM
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Whitey31 wrote:

Awesome!! One 6'2", Two 6'3", One 6'4", and now a 6'6" player(s) in the last few days!! So far it's only cost us Gags? lol

I am truly shocked that some of you are complaining?? Will you ever find happiness? Too much money, term is too long, fire MacT..wha wha! Any of us that actually follow hockey in the real world know that this is how free agency works. Players are going to take the deal that best suits them. Maybe Benoit was offered the same amount from another team but for a shorter term, so we had to step up a year to get him? Ya lets get bargain deals, because I am sure the ticket prices will go down in the new building? lol Way to go MacT, thanks for actually doing something to show this city that you care!

I'm a Flames fan. MacT has been decisive and improved his team. Good fit players brought in.

He has schooled CGY. This sucks.

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#139 SlowTalker
July 01 2014, 12:50PM
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Spydyr wrote:

And I told you what I would pay for him in the first line:

"I would have given him the bare minimum to qualify him."

Did you miss that

Are you telling me Fedun would not of helped in the AHL and been a OK call up?

The same thing a much better team SJ is going to do with him.

Spyder, you are not having a good run at the Oiler board if all you are doing, is dying on that hill named Fedun.

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#140 Harlie
July 01 2014, 12:56PM
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J.R. wrote:

We have more to thank than just them for Leon don't you think?

Yeah your right, fire KLowe!

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#141 thebiggestmanintheworld
July 01 2014, 01:05PM
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If they get Petry and Schultz signed, this will be the closest we have been to an actual NHL roster in a long time.

Perron, Hendricks, Nikitin, Fayne, Pouliot are all decent NHL players with good-very good possession numbers.

All they cost were MPS, Dubnyk, a second and fifth round picks and money.

Not to mention bringing in two *seemingly* capable goalies for only picks as well, and it looks like MacTivity has shaped this roster to his liking in two short seasons.

This team is now in Taylor and the gang's hands.

No more Hemsky, Gagner, Smyth, Smid, Dubnyk to remind us of one of the darkest times in Oilers history.

I had my reservations about MacT at first.

No more.

Full steam ahead, capt'n!

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#142 Walter Sobchak
July 01 2014, 01:43PM
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Well, I’m happy with the signings and I think Petry is done as an Oiler.

I’m starting to come around and get excited about next season.

If the Oilers crash and burn next season, I can see a total wipe out of Eakins & staff, the management and scouting personnel.

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#143 Old time oil fan
July 01 2014, 01:49PM
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hemi wrote:

Been a pretty productive day for the Oil's management. Kuddos! For the vast majority of posters here, pay little mind to the few negative trolls whom constantly post nothing but bad news here. It matters not what the Oil do, the same 4/5 know-it-all's will never post anything positive, not in their nature. They are like a boil on an Elephant's ass, insignificant. GO OIL!

As soon as the Oil improves on the ice I will be the first to acknowledge it. I am not trying to be negative just for the hell of it - just being a realist and calling it how I see it. The results on the ice over the last 8 yeArs speak for themselves. You don't have to agree with every comment, that is the point of having a place to express opinion and why the site allows you to trash or cheer a comment. If you need to try and feel good about yourself and this team or want everyone to buy into your delusion thats not what this site is for. There is medication for that, but if you feel good about the Oils current situation and recent results you must have already found the meds.

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#144 nuge2nail
July 01 2014, 02:07PM
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MessyEH wrote:

I'm sorry. After reading thread, after thread, of this guy preaching about a players draft number, being an indicator of value, that supercedes what they have accomplished post draft. I have little, to zero, respect for them.

The negatively towards "allthingsOilers " is just as bad as the Kool Aid drinking, glass heel wearing fan boys, that also comment here.

If you are not an Oilers fan, (and you can't be if you hate everything they do, and every move they make.) Or, only call call yourself one for what they did 24+ years ago and/or geography. Then why come here? To be negative all the time?

I am sure that there are more productive things that a rising star of the NHL General managers guild could be doing.

*Drops mic. And salutes with middle finger.*

In MacT we trust.

Oiler Domination To Follow

I agree 100%. If you hate the oilers management, hate the coaches, the roster and all the new players that join the team...

How can you call yourself an Oilers fan?

Seems like we have a ton of DSFs on steroids posting negative comments on a regular basis.

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#145 v4ance
July 01 2014, 02:10PM
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jl wrote:

Oiler douche,

flames are not ready to compete for a playoff spot, and are trying just to get to the floor.

Ill let the rest of you on here continue with telling the rest of us how "good your gonna be" good luck with the permanent rebuild.

Final thought 8-1 losers.

Sorry you got the score wrong.

5-1

Cups.

All about the Cups.

EDIT: So you needed Engelland to get to the floor? Why not just sign him for ONE year instead of 3?

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#146 Nick
July 01 2014, 02:30PM
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Still Moss, Winnik, Boyle and Ott left, lets get em!!

Hall-rnh-eberle // perron-boyle-purcell // pouliot-ott-yakupov // hendricks-gordon-moss // gadzic & arco in the box.......go oilers!

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#147 v4ance
July 01 2014, 03:08PM
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WHOA! Willie Mitchell, 37 yrs old got 2 years at $4.25 from Florida?

There's getting to the cap floor and there's going for McDavid, without wink, wink, nudge, nudge, going for it!

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#148 The Soup Fascist
July 01 2014, 03:35PM
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Rob... wrote:

Yukon Jack had a great rant about the words people choose to take offence at. I have mentally handicapped relatives, but am not offended by r'tard when used to describe a non-handicapped person who chooses not to use their brain. Look up the term 'idiot' and you'll see that there was a time when it was used to describe someone who was mentally handicapped. We 'choose' to not be offended by that but, my god, heaven forbid you use the r-word to describe someone who fails to think something through.

If I ever hear someone use that 'r'-word against someone with a true mental handicap, I'll be the first to tear them a new one, but for god's sake, grow up and understand context when words are used.

Glad to hear you are not offended.

But sorry, I think it is unacceptable and offensive.

I am not PC or thin-skinned but frankly the word makes my skin crawl.

I will state my opinion. You are free to disagree.

I assure you I am a grown up. But thanks for the advice.

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#149 jake
July 01 2014, 04:20PM
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The Soup Fascist wrote:

Because I disagree with you, I am pious and sanctimonious? How hypocritical of you.

I am not expecting anyone to conform. But don't be shocked if you get called on it if you use the word "retard" or drop n-bombs. I disagree with it but I can't control how you think or speak.

Another key thing today is the fact Nuge, Hall and Ebs all have cost certainty for ++ years into the future. Had Tambellini done 2 year bridge deals for 4 and 14 back in summer 2012, this might be a whole different day.

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#150 hankthetank
July 01 2014, 05:03PM
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It's amazing all the negativity in here today. Some of you guys should take your toys and go home.

I am obviously a part of the optimistic minority who feel that MacT did some good work in the last few days...I'm excited for the start of the season.

Any one else....?

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